AuthorTopic: GR#044 - Human Sprite in Perspective - Perspective, Anatomy  (Read 15433 times)

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Hi there, this is my second topic here, and I really hope to get some good advises as usual!  ;)

I'm starting a new PA, and I want to do the things right this time, so I'm starting from the scratch!
And I'm wondering if this is a good start...



I want a girl laying in the roof of a castle or something like that.

What should I change before I go for the next step?
Would be the sky visible at this perspective?
« Last Edit: March 29, 2011, 07:08:59 am by JinnDEvil »

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Re: Planning first!

Reply #1 on: March 29, 2011, 07:44:52 am
I don't think the sky would be visible, I think some far off ground would be.

Careful of those jagged lines, they will be causing you a lot of trouble soon enough.

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Re: Planning first!

Reply #2 on: March 29, 2011, 12:47:19 pm
I confirm, if this rempart is mostly horizontal, the horizon will be where the lines cross, way up above the picture.
To view a girl laying on a merlon like this, from above, the viewer has to be higher so you can't draw it as if it was viewed a human height.
Whatever you draw in the top left corner, it has to be seen from a point of view 3 meter above the girl.

I'd almost go three-point perspective on this, using a huge canvas during work since the vanishing points are very far off the picture.

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Re: Planning first!

Reply #3 on: March 29, 2011, 02:48:52 pm
So, the only way I could get a sky is extending the limit of the canvas?

Like this, at least?



Wel, I thing I wont then. I'll stay with a high view of the ground.
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Re: Planning first!

Reply #4 on: March 29, 2011, 03:52:45 pm
Or you increase the spread for the top lines, so that they cross quicker, before the top of your intended canvas. Note that visually, it will means the view is more horizontal, so you will probably need to adjust the pose for the girl (more horizontal and closer, less 'seen from above').

My PA suck but I remember very fondly my art course about perspective :) When the vanishing points were outside the picture, the practice was to physically tape the picture on the table, and draw the extra lines on the table as guides.

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Re: Planning first!

Reply #5 on: March 29, 2011, 04:36:46 pm
It's not big deal about the sky. But I still don't know how I'll handle the ground, any idea?

Anyway, this is what I got now:

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Re: Planning first!

Reply #6 on: March 29, 2011, 04:42:48 pm
If this tower was very high in the air, maybe on a mountain, you could have an awesome far-away background with a river, a forest, mountains, another castle in the distance, etc.

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Re: Planning first!

Reply #7 on: March 29, 2011, 05:13:21 pm
I think the small sliver of a crenelation is kind of throwing the composition and the rhythm of the piece. I'd either crop it out entirely, or expand the canvas size to include more of it.

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Re: Planning first!

Reply #8 on: March 29, 2011, 05:20:23 pm
Really, Pawige?

Do you think this is better?




And thanks Trough, I think I'll go for it.


Update:

« Last Edit: March 29, 2011, 09:51:16 pm by JinnDEvil »

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Re: Planning first!

Reply #9 on: March 29, 2011, 10:19:33 pm
hair seems rather flat since it hugs the wall so carefully at the edge. I'd also expect it to fall more straight-down, the exaggerated curves don't make sense to me. I'd use another color for the highlight on the bikini, unless it's meant to be sheer. face looks good.