AuthorTopic: GR#045 - Three Girls (Nudity) - Anatomy, Perspective  (Read 21044 times)

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Re: Stuck with BG (18+ nudity)

Reply #10 on: March 22, 2011, 03:54:54 pm
So I guess I should stop then...





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Re: Stuck with BG (18+ nudity)

Reply #11 on: March 22, 2011, 04:52:02 pm
Haha, nah, keep going, trooper. People aren't trying to get you down, they're recognizing that your art is good, so they only spend their energy on telling you how to make it better.

Once upon a time art like this would make people on this forum run in circles over its goodness and how nice the pixel tech is on the sprites. ' U ' people just got more critique-oriented since then. But it's still good.

Do start studying focal points and the such, though. I think your approach is right. Try backgrounds just to have the attempt in your system, it can't hurt. Doing things the 'wrong' way is a good learning experience and a good place to start from when you start learning the actual techniques. But from here on, if you wanna get better at drawing backgrounds, try to study perspective a bit, try to use it and use and study reference.

If you're prepared to rework most of the background you could always keep going on this. I'm sure people would like to help out.
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Re: Stuck with BG (18+ nudity)

Reply #12 on: March 22, 2011, 06:44:53 pm
Thanks for the kind words, Jad.
I'll sure take a shot on start structures and focal points in my next projetcs.



Im looking for an idea how to shade the ground now. Do you have any?

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Re: Stuck with BG (18+ nudity)

Reply #13 on: March 22, 2011, 06:47:38 pm
That's some really weird AA you've got going on with the shadows... in fact, I don't think it works at all.

Anyways I agree with Helm. As far as pixel art goes this is amazingly beautiful, but that doesn't mean it's good art. Helm has mostly covered it all so I won't reinvent the wheel. I will say though that you should finish this, but learn from your mistakes as far as the composition and such goes. Maybe one day you will revisit it and make it truly outstanding on all levels, and hopefully your future pieces will benefit.
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Re: Stuck with BG (18+ nudity)

Reply #14 on: March 22, 2011, 06:48:28 pm
Thanks for the kind words, Jad.
I'll sure take a shot on start structures and focal points in my next projetcs.



Im looking for an idea how to shade the ground now. Do you have any?



Well, the ladies (and the rocks) all reflect the light as if they all came from where the point of view is, whereas the shades on the ground come as if the light came from behind them.

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Re: Stuck with BG (18+ nudity)

Reply #15 on: March 22, 2011, 06:49:43 pm
Speaking of shadow,  the standing woman's shadows makes it seem like sunset while the relaxing one's shadow makes me think the suns on a 45 degree angle.

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Re: Stuck with BG (18+ nudity)

Reply #16 on: March 22, 2011, 06:56:29 pm
Will you be changing the water splash? It really reads like stringy-I-don't-know, the mist helm mentioned would be much more believable.
The shadow of the girl lying down is too short, it should be pretty long given how low the sun is and the other shadows.
Tension has been relieved a bit but I still feel the reclining indian could be moved further towards the empty corner.
Turning the standing indian's toes inward (on the extended leg) might make for a more seductive pose, as I think was suggested earlier. (I think Mathias also mentioned the varying sizes of the thighs)
I think the sitting indian could arch her back more, have the top of the back less straight and instead project back a little bit. She has really twiggy arms given those thighs.
Reclining indian's feet are wonky. The leg lying on the ground (lower leg, calf etc), as has been mentioned, is also twiggy.
The perspective do seem a little off. The closer the element is, the more it seems as if it's seen from above (far bg not so much, rocks a little, shadows a lot)
If the figures are casting such prominent shadows, I'd expect the shading on them to match, instead it seems to be coming from almost the opposite angle.

Dusty brings up a good point, and it's a problem I've noticed before in your pieces: the AA is too different a hue, it creates eye-burn and punches through the image. The brown AA in the water is having the same effect.
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Re: Stuck with BG (18+ nudity)

Reply #17 on: March 22, 2011, 07:00:20 pm
I can understand all that you say, cure. But I just don't know how to fix it properly.
Would you mind to show me an edit? (I can handle the AA tho)


Edit:

AA and position of the Reclining indian fixed, imo.

« Last Edit: March 22, 2011, 07:13:12 pm by JinnDEvil »

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Re: Stuck with BG (18+ nudity)

Reply #18 on: March 22, 2011, 07:13:02 pm
I don't agree with the mist waterfall stuff.

A piece of art is art, when picasso was drawing his abstract painting, there was a lot of non possible shapes... and who cares ? it's art, stop thinking about art like mathematics !

I find myself the splash stuff kindda exciting and would take it as a metaphore, of girls wet of envy, waterfall being between legs. It's kind of erotic and poetic and if you put mist on it you will go from an artistic and spiritual work, to a realworld making attempt which will fail whatever you try as realworld isn't made of pixels..

Peeps on this forum really need to go see some of Amano's work and see how disrespect of proportions can lead to beautiful things.

Stop being so stubborn and let creativity be !
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Re: Stuck with BG (18+ nudity)

Reply #19 on: March 22, 2011, 07:17:05 pm
^^  I second that,  (With the exception of my shadow complaint)