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Re: Color Palette Visualization

Reply #10 on: September 10, 2010, 01:53:45 pm
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Believe it or not, that was not apparent to me until I saw how some of the pieces here were done.  The WIP animations are invaluable.  I'm really, REALLY, interested in "The Recorded Pixel Art Project" but the use of the TechSmith codec turns me away.

Why is that? At the time we couldn't find any better codec for pixel videos. If you've got a better setup to suggest we could use it and put stuff on youtube hopefully.

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Re: Color Palette Visualization

Reply #11 on: September 10, 2010, 02:15:13 pm
You can compress videos for youtube with camtasia as well. That's how I did my DDP video.
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Re: Color Palette Visualization

Reply #12 on: September 10, 2010, 08:02:58 pm
Haha! You are such a programmer type, I knew it! No offense at all there believe me, but I adore the mental differences in coder types as opposed to more creative types (coding is certainly a creative exercise, but just in a different . . . spikier . . . more painful way) it's interesting.

You're right, most artforms don't have a fraction of the structure programming does.


Hey guys, that youtube thought is a good one. I know someone suggested it a while back. There's been Indigo's concept of a front page and whatnot. Well here's another bridge-pixel-art-with-the-21st-century thought - A Pixelation YouTube channel! Don't laugh. I think it would be great. We could feature video WIP's. We already have a cache of them here. There would be a Pixelation themed skin, or just background for the page, all official like. What else could we toss up and what might a Pixelation channel actually accomplish? What's the goal there? For one thing, viewing the videos would be so much easier, and even easier for people to find. Would it cause a surge in Pixelation traffic and memberships? Would PixelJoint be involved?
There would need to be a link in the videos archive thread OP. Perhaps even a link here in the default Pix interface, like the newsboxes.

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Re: Color Palette Visualization

Reply #13 on: September 10, 2010, 10:46:09 pm
A Youtube channel would be nice, but the videos would have to be lossless, or perceptually lossless.

H264 can do pixel perfect video, but not all players/browsers support it. (The standard has lots of sub-profiles, not all of which have to be implemented.)

I'm not sure if Google's VP8 can do lossless or not.
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Re: Color Palette Visualization

Reply #14 on: September 11, 2010, 07:31:59 am
I'm sure the hi quality options for youtube will be enough for us. The thing is, I don't want to be in charge of a youtube channel, heh, so some other moderator should step up. I'd certainly contribute new videos, since it seems I'm the one making more.

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Re: Color Palette Visualization

Reply #15 on: September 14, 2010, 07:06:53 pm
Why is that? At the time we couldn't find any better codec for pixel videos. If you've got a better setup to suggest we could use it and put stuff on youtube hopefully.

YouTube would be awesome.  Especially if you took advantage of embedding videos.  It makes the content so much more accessible.

I may not understand the challenges involved.  Wouldn't any codec that supports 1080p be suitable?  DivX and H.264 come to mind.  WebM is Google backed although I don't know if YouTube supports it yet.

Just set your desktop to 1920x1080 or clip your existing desktop to avoid scaling, no?

I suppose it all comes down to a matter of convenience.  TechSmith is supported on Windows and Mac.  I run Ubuntu Linux.  I've seen someone (AI?) post alternative instructions for Linux, but it requires me to use an alternative media player.

This probably just amounts to me whining (I'm not old, but I am curmudgeonly), but I'd opt for larger file sizes and a longer wait for buffering versus an alternative codec that isn't as ubiquitous and well supported as other codecs.

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Re: Color Palette Visualization

Reply #16 on: September 14, 2010, 11:41:19 pm
I may not understand the challenges involved.  Wouldn't any codec that supports 1080p be suitable?  DivX and H.264 come to mind.  WebM is Google backed although I don't know if YouTube supports it yet.

It's unfortunate you can't view the videos and see how nice the Techsmith encoder looks. It's perceptually lossless, so there's absolutely no JPEGification of the video. H264 can do the same, but that's completely independent of video resolution.

Just set your desktop to 1920x1080 or clip your existing desktop to avoid scaling, no?

For the existing videos, we set our workspace to as small as is comfortable to keep the file size down, but yeah, if we go to Youtube, it's not a problem. The only problem is that I, and I'm sure a lot of others, couldn't record at 1080p if I wanted to; my monitor's not big enough.

This probably just amounts to me whining (I'm not old, but I am curmudgeonly), but I'd opt for larger file sizes and a longer wait for buffering versus an alternative codec that isn't as ubiquitous and well supported as other codecs.

No, that would be the most convienient for viewers. It might take more work for the people actually recording videos. Anri-chan might be a good start. Also, we're really just talking about screencasting here. I'm sure there's plenty of shrink-wrapped software out there to make things easier.
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