"You didn't address the issue with the clouds at all, look you're still struggling with fundamentals in art"
Sorry, it won't happen again. Now someone lock this thread and ban me for a year before I insult bengoshia and get in another fight. When you start with off with that, I'm sorry but I don't read anything else you say.
Well, you are still struggling with the foundations. To not read the rest of his comment because the first line upset you is just immature. For all you know the next line could be, "OZMG JJ Tht iz b3st Pic Eva!!!l!!11" and be completely serious. Although it's closer too, "here is some good advice to help you improve".
In fact if you had continue reading and not been so quick to take it hostilly you would have read these parts:
I'm not trying to be hurtful, understand, I'm just trying to be honest with you, I personally want you to improve, I'm sure most of us do
Really though, don't take this as a hurtful message, I did not intend it to be, I apologize if you did.
Fuk! he even apologized in advance because he thought you might get upset by his, 'bluntness'. That doesn't seem very hostile to me.
Also his comment is littered with advice and why he has given that advice;
You need to start looking at images for reference, you should probably be drawing lots of still life and you should probably pick up some beginner art books.
if you want to be successful you should put the pixels down and start working on improving your artistic ability.
Like has been said; take from advice and use it to better yourself. It is very important to be humble when it comes to this kind of learning, if someone was to say to me, "You don't understand x well enough, get off the forums and go do more x studies in pencil." I would take it into careful consideration, and in all likelyhood they could be right, that might be the best course of action. If I continued to post on the forums, and kept making the same mistake they will keep giving me the same advice (probably more and more bluntly) untill they give up on me and decide I'm too stuborn to learn.
Thank you for that run down! I am fairly certain I have line and perspective down pat.
I'm afraid not.
Some good perspective examples;
http://kingfishers.ednet.ns.ca/art/grade10/drawing/perspective3.htmlhttp://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/artt1.jpgSome good line examples; (Helm comes to mind)
http://asides-bsides.blogspot.com/Pixel art is typically not a good medium for learning art fundementals as it by nature encourages iconification. There are often unique techniques in different mediums however it could be argued pixel art demans you use it's techniques more than in other art forms. This is why a lot of people recommend doing more drawing when they feel you aren't capable enough on a foundation level.
This forums main goal is to teach pixel art
exclusively, often however it ends up discussing other non-pixel related art techniques and concepts whilst helping people improve their work and skills, this is because you are never really finished learning the fundementals (so no you can't get them, "down pat"). What people are saying is, go out and research these different art foundations as much as you can. Practice and practice, study art, then when you have enough of an understanding of general art theory it will be a lot better for your learning to post something up here.
Why not just post something up here and skip the part where you search for the theory? Well we could all give you critique purely on the foundation side of things. However you not pursuing it yourself shows a lack of commitment, and you would not likely follow up on learning what we would have to provided it for you (It would cover many a page more then you would have the patience to read, people write tombs on this stuff).
The point of starting to learn the fundementals is to be able to help yourself! When you get a better understanding of them you can look at a piece of
your own work and say, "It looks flat, the forms need redefining, the colours are incorrect, the line work is poor, etc." Then you can make efforts to improve these things. You will learn a lot quicker if you are able to know where you have gone wrong in your own art and what you need to improve on. Look at some of the posts of the good artists; "I'm still having trouble with the perspective", "Still fiddling with the colours", "I need to do more anatomy studies", etc. Also posts in response to pieces, "You need to fix the perspective", etc. If you don't understand the language how can you hope to benefit from the discussion!
how can we help you if you don't really get what we're trying to tell you
