AuthorTopic: GR#019 - Treehouse Mockup - Isometric Environment Sprite  (Read 7992 times)

Offline Helm

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Re: Tree House Mockup - WIP

Reply #10 on: March 18, 2010, 06:24:33 pm
The top green on the tree gives it priority and should remain saturated or even moreso. Similarily for the top orange on the house. These two colors make that element not be part of a background. Almost all the other colors in their respective ramps could be playfully tinted if you so desire without any lack of clarity or priority, so unless there's a great reason not to, why not?

The rock face I brightened up I did so it would look like an obstacle, which needs more priority than a background element you would merely walk over. I tinted its shadows towards green to merge it a bit with the green floor tile.

The dirt shore color in your version seemed too bright, almost metallic or as if it's something edible so I moved the luma down a little and made it vaguely more warm.

The water - buffer - dark reflection was almost a straight ramp which gave ti me the impression that this is a manufactured toy world, so I made the darker color tint in the direction of the rocks themselves.

On the tree trunk I introduced green tints to complement the foliage and left the pleasing blue secondary ambient lightsource in-tact.

The biggest change is dampening the green field color a bit, a choice on which I'm a bit ambivalent but it would probably work out in terms of priority. A cost/benefit for losing that vibrant green, not sure if it's the best choice.

I changed the color of the cast shadow of the sprite because before it was the darkest and most saturated color in the mockup, not sure if you want a shadow to be the secondary focal point of the mockup after the saturated green foliage.

My overall impression is that your coloring method is a bit primary; not a bad thing in itself but it makes things look a bit plastic, the wonder of the natural world is how the whole is very complementary, mixed and complex.

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Re: Tree House Mockup - WIP

Reply #11 on: March 19, 2010, 03:16:18 am
Wow this is really nice looking! Unlike everyone else here it seems, I really like the turquoise color for the ground, It brightens up everything and goes nicely with the tree unlike in helms edit that does improve on a bunch of things but i find the grass color he chose makes it look a bit dirty and sort of dreary i guess? Anyways I think this is coming along great! The only thing that sort of bothers me is the ground transition to the cliff is too sudden

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Re: Tree House Mockup - WIP

Reply #12 on: March 19, 2010, 03:18:25 am
I like the image overall, but I don't think that your faint rocks compared to your crisp treehouse is doing you much good. In my opinion, the rocks would look better if they followed the same colour style as the rest of the image.

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Re: Tree House Mockup - WIP

Reply #13 on: March 23, 2010, 03:09:56 am
I haven't had too much time to work on this lately, but here's a small update.  Thanks for the critique on the palette and stuff guys.  Helm, that was very insightful.  A lot of it I agreed in theory, but in practice didn't appeal too much to me.  I ended up mixing the advices of several people including you and St0ven.  Saturated the tree leaves and the roof parts, and any areas where direct sunlight would hit.  I also added more contrast to the lines in the cliffside dirt and I think I like that more too.  I ultimately had to add new indexes for the cliff-faces that receive sunlight - otherwise most palette alterations were moot.  Still lots of work to be done

« Last Edit: March 23, 2010, 03:27:08 am by Indigo »

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Re: Tree House Mockup - WIP

Reply #14 on: March 23, 2010, 05:44:15 am
Damn, that's a really nice update. The warmer green for the grass really helps the happy atmosphere, I think.

I think Helm's ideas for the more chaotic hues has strong merit. I couldn't resist having a play of it myself:



I think you should move for cooler darks. The violets feel kind of hot and strangely claustrophobic to me... don't know if I can rationalise that  :blind:

Also I think you can play up the highlights and shadows to achieve more pop. Emphasising the ambient light can push the kind of mystical fantasy feel a bit, if that's what you want to go for.

You seem to have a lot of colours you could cull, especially if you go for the more mixed hues in your ramps.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2010, 05:53:46 am by EyeCraft »

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Re: Tree House Mockup - WIP

Reply #15 on: March 25, 2010, 08:46:41 am
Thats an insanely awesome edit eyecraft.  It's been making me contemplate moving towards a slightly more realistic rendering style.  Lots of great ideas to try out.  :)

small update again:


I addressed a number of issues.  I made the shadowed areas a tad more blue over-all.  I started doing some edge-treatment to the cliffs.  I still haven't touched the front facing cliff-side at all.  I darkened the shadows a bit more so objects can feel more grounded in the scene with such bright grass.  a few other things too.
« Last Edit: March 25, 2010, 08:48:39 am by Indigo »

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Re: Tree House Mockup - WIP

Reply #16 on: March 25, 2010, 11:48:59 am
So will the chimney be worked on more or will it remain the same?

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Re: Tree House Mockup - WIP

Reply #17 on: March 25, 2010, 03:45:05 pm
This is looking great so far! Very cheery colors. I would add a transition tile between the diagonal and the flat-facing cliff angles. As it currently is, it looks like rectangular stripes.