So what you're saying is: We have to educate the people of DeviantArt before they get here so we won't get bad artists, and if we don't our hate for bad stereotypes and poorly educated newbies will make them not like us, or give up alltogether?

There are plenty of people making 'second rate sprites, mock up pseudo pixel art, pretty wide eyed dollies in an array of lovely flowing  frocks and cutesy little iso rooms in pastel pinks' here allready, and I don't recall anyone being banned or shunned for that reason alone. They came here to learn and that's the point. For that matter, DeviantArt is not the hub of the art world. People find their way here from a number of different places and I doubt all of them are experts.

I'm not sure I see what would be so horrible about this scenario. Help DA or people won't like you? I would rather say that taking the step out of DA is the next level of improvement for pixel-artists. If they want to stay there, that's fine. They can go back there if they feel too discouraged by our evil, but I think people have found their way here for a reason. The DA system is not very well suited for learning, and I'm not going to point the finger in an attempt to make it into something it's not.

DeviantArt is a good way do display your artwork and get a lot of people to see it. Giving critics is more or less useless as you're just another member, and the general quota is that you just leave good or bad comment, so most fall in under that banner. There are small communeties that are centered around critique, but as you can imagine, they're mostly for people that are part of that group. Like here, you have to have a closer social network for that to work. If you just go pointing out faults for people you don't know, they'll most likely take it offensively.

I am not interested in going on missionary duty on DA, spreading the "correct way" of pixel and critique. Most use use the site as a portfolio page or to cause attention and trying to convert it into a critique site is a shot in the dark. If I know the individual, I might be able to talk more casually about it. PMing people about their appairant blasphemy is none of my business and I'll leave that to the more extreme. If someone wanted to improve, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't use DA to do it, and if so, they're probably not doing it through the comment system.

So congrants to Fry, thousands of people will now know what you do. (I reckon this is what the topic was about in the first place.)

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His ribcage is placed very high up and his groin is pretty low. (could have raised it more, but I reckon these are loose pants.) He's also off balance, so the right leg has been moved to compensate, as well as a tiny shift in the left one as well, since the angle was wrong in that position.

I'll add more if I spot something else. Great work so far though.

Their common aspect (imo) was that both their art and personality created publicity. Painters in general are perceived to be more "out there" than most, but few get that level of public attention. Even if I can't know for sure, I don't think Frida nor Salvador would be remembered to the same degree if they weren't as "extreme" in both areas. This could be said about a number of artists. Van Gogh for example.