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Pixel Art / Re: New here and in Pixel art aswell.
« on: January 15, 2013, 08:00:07 pm »
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What samller steps do you suggest?

Simply saying that learning while developing graphics for a specific project is not such a good idea if you final goal is to be a professional pixel artist. IMO, if you aim to become a professional you need to develop and practice pixel art specifically to improve, which means producing nondedicated pixel art and also working on your drawing skills, which might even mean putting pixel art on the side for a while.

I didnt done anything today.. I was short on time..
But I did a quick test about prespective with a book..(I took real one as a reference and draw it flat and top-down)
Here it is:


Anyways its late here so Ill check the thread tomorrow after school..

Edit: Here is the current banana tree:

As you can see I fixed the trunk to look less flat and I edited  the bananas abit now they have more than one color..
Hmm and I finished the leaves.
Can you see anything that need to be worked on?

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Pixel Art / Re: New here and in Pixel art aswell.
« on: January 15, 2013, 05:24:21 am »
I think you need to be more observant of how things actually look.
As with any art, if you don't have experience drawing these things or know what they look like, you need to study and draw them over and over.
For example, on your palm tree the leaves slope down as if it's dead. While in the reference they're vibrant and pointing outwards.
Perhaps it's meant to be the perspective, but that also means you need to train on your sense of perspective and thinking in 3D, since right now it points straight down instead of towards the viewer. (although to be fair, the perspective is kinda weird on the reference too)

I'd say the reason no one hasn't really been replying is that you could benefit a lot more from training regular art skills like sketching and drawing things from reference than from pixel art.
As for the pixel art itself it lacks contrast and sometimes clear shapes, the 32x32 stone tile has outlines that just look out of place. Most of the tiles appear kinda fuzzy.

Also there are tons of RPG tilesets here, it's the most common thing posted.
You should go and check out other tilesets and see how they solve things.

Also impatience is your worst enemy when learning any art form. It's all about hard work and tons of practice.
You'll also need to develop your brain into seeing the pieces an image is built from, shapes, shading, light, reflections, etc.

Thanks for the reply. Can we just ignore the who deserves thing? Its off topic..

Hmm yes I know I need to work on the prespective and light/shadow its the hard part for me..

Everything on the side, I think you are on a good road with replicating that palm tree. Finish it. I don't think you need bananas, at this point. But if you insist on them, think about their shape, shadow that falls on them from the leaves, or the light that casts on them from the sun. Add more juice to them. Something like this:



This is only to illustrate my idea. I, myself, am still a quite poor pixel "artist". There is some conflict of styles between the bananas and everything else in my edit.

It all depends on what you want to accomplish with your pixel art, atm. Are you making a game? Freeware of plan to sell it? Or you plan to become a professional pixel artist? I personally want to up pixel art in my freeware games, so I allow myself to skip some rules and steps to accomplish my humble goals, but am aware of the negative sides of this approach, like having to re-learn many things.

If you plan to become a professional pixel artist you will need to take much smaller steps.

Hmm Im not sure If the bananas are neccessery but also I dont see a way to put there another leaf..

Yes Im making games with my friend freeware for now until we will get better coders and then we can sell pro games..
I dont want to become a pro pixel artist but I want to improve to be able to make good graphics for my games/myself(I kinda like pixel art..).

What samller steps do you suggest?

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Pixel Art / Re: New here and in Pixel art aswell.
« on: January 14, 2013, 07:05:23 pm »
Hrm....dude, nobody deserves anything in life.

When there is not replies, maybe there isn't anything educative to criticize on your work, or people are simply busy. Just keep trying.

I personally love the first grass tile, but I think you need to make few more patterns, because inside the map repetition is quite obvious. Rock tile could use a reboot. All rocks inside the tile have same color edges, independent of light source. That is wrong. Try not to think of this tile as a lump of rocks, but as a rocky-texture.

Also, shadow under the rock mustn't be grey, as it is casting shadow on green surface. Make it dark green.

Try this kiwinuptuo tutorial on textures: http://kiwinuptuo.deviantart.com/#/d3d4ufx

Really awesome.

When stuck with an object, always look for reference, whether real objects, drawings or pixel art:
http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/17121.htm
http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/25590.htm


Thanks for the reply Lachie, I know I was kinda impatiant..

Hmm I took your advice about taking a references and I redoing the tree.
Here it is(Still WIP):


As you can see the bananas looks kinda weird hmm I dont sure how to do them so Ill leave them like that until Ill finish the tree itself..

About the shadow under the rock:
Hmm I did it like that because its not suppose to be just on grass its can be on any kind of ground tile so Its look weird if its was dark green on dirt path..

About the grass:
Yes I was going to make more patterns, I noticed after I finished it that its looks repetitive.. Thats why I did the 32x32 grass tile its dosent has a pattern its doesnt look repetitive when tiled..

P.S
Sorry for the late reply Im busy and I had math test today so I had to learn all week..(Went good btw :P )
Hmm I hope Ill finish the tree tomorrow and Ill keep updating this thread.

P.S.S
Mabye nobody deserves anything but there are people that deserves more than other.. (Just had to mention it). And sorry for my english Im from Israel..

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Pixel Art / Re: New here and in Pixel art aswell.
« on: January 13, 2013, 06:11:27 pm »
Hmm no replies? I worked really hard on them, I think I deserve a reply or something..

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Pixel Art / New here and in Pixel art aswell.
« on: January 12, 2013, 06:52:22 pm »
Hi, Im new here and in Pixel arting too.
I made some thing and I want opinions and suggestions to improve my skills :P

On some of the tiles I worked alot of time, I tried 10000 ways to make them look better(I mean with different designs)..
Hmm.. Thats all I think..

Here are some arts:

Tiles:
This is my first grass tile(16x16)

This is better I think and its 32x32:

These are 16x16 stone tiles:

Side:

With grass:

This is 32x32 stone tile:

Two versions with grass:

And:

This is a rock  ;)

This is a tiled map:


Tree:
Old:

New:                       Without bananas:
           

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