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Pixel Art / Re: UPDATE: Pterodactyl Mobile Suit Design ~ OCTO FORCE
« on: February 06, 2015, 08:07:28 pm »
Fuck it, I am done here...it's easier to learn the hard way.

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Pixel Art / Re: UPDATE: Pterodactyl Mobile Suit Design ~ OCTO FORCE
« on: February 06, 2015, 08:03:33 pm »
You could at least try it instead of dismissing it like you're the expert yourself..


If you don't want people to rebel against you don't act like a dictator when they choose not to listen to you.

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Pixel Art / Re: UPDATE: Pterodactyl Mobile Suit Design ~ OCTO FORCE
« on: February 06, 2015, 08:01:17 pm »
You asked for advice, and I think people put some solid work into their responses, I was only suggesting that you try some of it,

And I have tried some of it. and it worked.

But I'm not going to redo the entire thing because a few people don't the way it looks or they say that I should spend a few years practicing and then come back to this at a later time.


I'm sorry if I offended you and started a bit of an argument, but I really didn't think my post was very offensive.

it not what you said its what the attitude that I am supposed to blindly follow and not think for myself which piece of advice I should use and not. That's not giving advice. That is telling someone how to do X and if they choose not to they are stupid for not doing it.

In this forum people who are labeled as beginners are expected to do what they are told and if they choose not to they are labeled as 'stupid' and if they say something about that label they are labeled as an asshole as I have not been labeled because I spoke up about it.

It's clear to me now that I (as a beginner) don't have any rights here to disagree with anyone.

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Pixel Art / Re: UPDATE: Pterodactyl Mobile Suit Design ~ OCTO FORCE
« on: February 06, 2015, 05:42:56 pm »
All that work and #7-Chan just gets called a girl. :[[[[[[[[[




I am sorry man, it was not meant as an insult....

Its just so delicate looking.

and the black hair? Come on....

lol

I did dl your version for reference.

Are you looking for work?

Cause I do have 7 more mecha to make and the planes that coincide with them need to be updated. Plus several tanks, non-transforming robots, and many backgrounds to make.

We are willing to share profits according to each person's amount of contribution.
Its obvious that you know what you're talking about.
I mean you're drawing it for me to see.

So far there are three of us. Two other artists and myself.
I am way better at code than being an artist.

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Pixel Art / Re: UPDATE: Pterodactyl Mobile Suit Design ~ OCTO FORCE
« on: February 06, 2015, 05:05:35 pm »
I'd keep with your original head shape if you want to keep your mecha friendly looking. You have an eye of sauron vibe going on now.
You might even expand it more to make it a bit more cutesy.




Actually the current head is meant for the bad guy's version.

The head that will be used by the player has not been designed.

I don't know what I will do with it.

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Pixel Art / Re: UPDATE: Pterodactyl Mobile Suit Design ~ OCTO FORCE
« on: February 06, 2015, 05:03:33 pm »
Pending any unforseen changes, this will be the last update for the front of the mecha until I finished the back. Then I will add the wings to the rear of the front and then I will do the sides, then paint all of it with a metallic finish.




I believe that you guys mean but well am not going to spend a bunch of time redoing my first mecha. I already spent 30 hours on it.

Having said that I have 7 more mechas to do.

I don't even have concepts drawings for them yet.
AlI have is their plane mode drawn each in a prototype stage
So there is a lot of room for changes and improvements.

That is where I will be willing to make severe changes.

Between now and then I am going to do a few more tutorials and follow through with a few of ideas that you guys mentioned; like practicing at a lower level of resolution with 4 colors and using blotches of color and not lines to draw with.

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Pixel Art / Re: UPDATE: Pterodactyl Mobile Suit Design ~ OCTO FORCE
« on: February 06, 2015, 04:38:13 pm »
I had a feeling that you weren't being honest when you replied to my posts since your responses

How can I be honest?

I am tired of being polite and saying "you know, I don't agree with you on that, I am going to try something different. only to read their next response where they insult me and belittle me as if I don't have the right to say 'noi'.

And look... look at our conversation.

This is reaffirming my belief about why I lie and say "Okay thanx, I'll try that." when I disagree.

Because if I say anything else I am accused of being the asshole.
Like I don't have the right to say no
Like I don't have the right to disagree.



If you're used to people always saying "Oh man that's awesome"

Nope.

In fact, it's not worth counting the number of positive remarks that I have had in this forum.

But you know, in game jolt the game has a 78% rating.
Of course that was from only one person.

I know it needs work and improvement
I am quite objective.
That is why I am here.

But if I choose not to listen don't take offense to it.

Or I am going to leave and not come back.

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Pixel Art / Re: UPDATE: Pterodactyl Mobile Suit Design ~ OCTO FORCE
« on: February 06, 2015, 04:29:43 pm »
Criticism can be hard to deal with at first.
Just like anything else, it takes practice.
But now you challenge Pixelation, as a whole, to the meaning of art, games, money, and success.
Why?

I wasn't challenging Pixelation. I was challenging those that think art should be perfect under a microscope.

I was challenging those that assume that I am a beginner at something based on one photo.

I was challenging those that assume that I must be ignorant because I don't do things the way they think it aught to be done.

I have no problem with criticism when it is constructive.
But when I choose not to listen and you shove it in my face simply because I chose not listen to your advise we're not going to get along.

How do you react when someone talks down to you?
Do you bend over and ask for their forgiveness Or do you tell them to back off?

I have no problem with criticism, mind you it comes in a constructive, objective, and reasonable form.
I think we can all agree on that.
That is all I asking for.

Is that unreasonable?



EDIT: I know the level in the demo looks like crap that is why I am redoing that level,  all of the planes and the first mecha.

The original pterodactlyl. used to look really bad, but that was just a concept drawing.
It was almost laughable. Perhaps it was laughable.

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Pixel Art / Re: UPDATE: Pterodactyl Mobile Suit Design ~ OCTO FORCE
« on: February 06, 2015, 04:13:51 pm »
Might be a bit to Gundam-y for you. But it might give you some thoughts on creating a more interesting silhouette.




wow that is quite nice!

It almost looks female to me.

Was that your intention?

Honestly I wanna keep a square look for the arms and legs of this mecha so it matches the plane.
I tried other shapes for the legs and it just didn't match the overall profile of the upper body.

The mecha I have planned to do next is actually a girl's mecha and I am aiming for a more shapely look.

Pending any unforseen changes, this will be the last update for the front of the mecha until I finished the back. Then I will add the wings to the rear of the front and then I will do the sides, then paint all of it with a metallic finish.





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Pixel Art / Re: UPDATE: Pterodactyl Mobile Suit Design ~ OCTO FORCE
« on: February 06, 2015, 04:00:06 pm »
@Seiseki

You are one of the self righteous people I was talking about.

But I have had a change of heart in one respect, I am going to continue being the Pterodactyl and my future mechas into this post and in this forums

Moreover, if you (Seisek) or other people don't like how it turns out, oh well.

And if you (Seisek) wish to continue criticizing me because I don't do things your way then maybe you should reconsider how little influence you have over the minds of over people and whether or not you deserve their attention.

I already know better than to come to a group of critics looking for fans. that's like asking the police not to be suspicious of people they don't know or understand.

As for the other people in this forum who are objective, reasonable, and mindful of their comments, I appreciate these people.

I doubt everyone in here is self righteous.

Myself, I try not to be self righteous., but when you come to me and claim that I should blindly follow every command you summon--we aren't going to get along.



It's also wise to remember that your personal interaction with other people is also a portion of your company's standards.  If you can't maintain civil and balanced communication with others

You are right but that does not mean I have no right to defend myself and speak my mind.
If accused any company in the world is going to defend themselves and attempt to set the record straight.

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