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Messages - tetsuya_shino
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Pixel Art / Re: [WIP] Fun With Rpg Sprites (Advice Needed)
« on: April 03, 2010, 01:51:10 am »
Howdy. Is there a reason the character is so big? I say that because the bigger sprite the more detail it could and should have. Since you are just starting out, maybe it would be better to try to make a much smaller sprite. If you haven't already you should cheak out Tsugumo's page; http://www.petesqbsite.com/sections/tutorials/tuts/tsugumo/  Then find a site that has sprite rips from rpgs and try to study them. Find something you like, tear it apart, find out what it makes it tick, then create your own oringal style. After you've done that, post an update again here. I'm sure people would be more willing to help you then. Good luck. :y:

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Pixel Art / Re: WIP runcycle for RPG/social game
« on: April 03, 2010, 01:35:50 am »
Wow, this takes me back! :) That image MadHatter posted was the same one I used when first learning how to animate walking and running. I think what you need to do is look at that image again and try to make an 8 frame walking animation.

Another idea is to simply get up now and start walking. Notice how your feet move, how high and when you legs lift up.

You said you were going for a ' skippy frolic' animation. And that's cool. However, it would do you well to learn how to make a normal walking animation first.

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General Discussion / Re: Palette
« on: April 02, 2010, 04:53:59 pm »
Hey, I'm just trying to stay on topic, boss. :y:

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General Discussion / Re: Palette
« on: April 02, 2010, 04:32:10 pm »
Nah, sorry. While the issue of honesty is a vaild one (and I agree with you), ownership of a palette was the point  xhunterko was trying to make.  :)


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General Discussion / Re: Hello
« on: April 02, 2010, 03:34:33 pm »
Hello there. You know, I once worked with a guy who was he was color blind. He said he could see some colors, but others were mixed up. Is that the problem you have?
If you create a bitmap with a small palette on it, you could then have a friend tell you which colors are which. You could then type the colors name next to the color. If that 'map' you should be able to still do pixel art... even if what you see is different from what the image really displayed. If you can't see any colors at all, you can stil do b/w pixel art. :y:

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General Discussion / Re: Palette
« on: April 02, 2010, 03:19:18 pm »
@xhunterko: Dude. I normally don't even come here,.. but when you post this topic here and at the other forum, I have to say something.
 Can someone own a palette? Sure. Does that mean he owns the colors? No, not really. But by having a collection of hand selected colors, something tangible is created. It's kinda like pixel art in a way. No one owns a single dot. But if someone were to put them in a pattern, their own pixel art is created from those dots. If you are going to use someone's palette, what's the harm in shooting that guy an email frist? Because either way, people in the know would know.




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General Discussion / Re: honor over dollars
« on: December 18, 2009, 01:59:01 pm »
Quote from: Indigo on December 18, 2009, 12:09:34 am
I wouldn't take too much offense, tetsuya.  The way the post read and the naturally provocative moral question that accompanied it made it hard for artists not to be passionate with their responses - even to the point of assuming that you were considering it.

I thought it was very clear that I was asking a 'what would you do' question. I even scanned thought it a second time to be sure. I later saw a glaring spelling error and thats when I edited it once.  Could I have made it clearer? Sure.

I later said that it was pointless to even post this because no one would shoot them self in the foot and admit to using stolen art to get a job. If there was such a person that did this and would admit to it, I'd this ask this question; Did you feel bad about doing it? Would you do it again? It's the artist mind, not mouse/pen that this topic was about.

@ptoing: I could say the same thing about you. You look like a novice. Do you see the problem with judging people solely by their avatars now? The stirke doesn't bother me. Give me another after reading this if you like.

@B.O.B: Thanks for the welcome. Although to assume I am 'new' isn't quite right. I just don't come to this site very often. But I was bored last night (it's the future here in Japan, ya know)
 and I'd thought I'd ask an interesting question to kill some time. Nothing more, nothing less. I didn't expect all this,.. but it entertaining after all.






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General Discussion / Re: honor over dollars
« on: December 17, 2009, 11:48:15 pm »
Quote from: big brother on December 17, 2009, 09:43:37 pm
I'm probably just echoing earlier sentiments, but from the viewpoint of artistic integrity, modifying, tracing, or ripping violates every shred of creativity in my body. From the viewpoint of a freelancer, you can be financially liable. A standard contract includes a clause that affirms you have the intellectual rights to the art that you are either licensing or transferring to their ownership. The same contract will usually have an indemnity clause, protecting the client from damages you might incur. Although many clients won't recognize ripped art, the contract's validity extends beyond their memory. If down the road, someone were to catch your indiscretion and notify the copyright holder, the client will pass the lawsuit onto you. It's an unlikely event, but it would end your career. 

That being said, I've encountered less scrupulous employers. When I worked at Gameloft, ripping art and indexing photos was standard procedure. I remember one title that featured effects ripped directly from a Capcom game (they didn't bother to even edit it or modify it slightly).  It's hard to stay creative and maintain your integrity in a climate like that.


Thank you! The whole point of this thread was if you could get away with it, would you? It was never a question of if I should do it or not. I had said as much since the oringal post, if anyone bothered to notice. big brother's post proves what I firgured what was going on already; that people are already using stolen art in games.

It bothers me that all I tried to do was present a hypothetical question for everyone to ponder and nearly all the replies are misguided and/or baseless personal attacks.

"reassess artistic abilities" because of my avator? I shouldn't even have to explain this to you, but I will anyways. My avator does not infer an ability OR inability to draw horses. Try applying your own foolish logic to your own avator. That's the limit of your skill? That's the only thing you can draw? Idiot.

There is no doubt there is some artistic talent on this board. Although it could do with a good dose of common sense. This was never a debate. I just wanted to hear everyone opinions on a hot topic. Nothing more, nothing less.


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General Discussion / Re: honor over dollars
« on: December 17, 2009, 02:05:06 pm »
...... I just lost my reply I had been writing for that last 45 mins. I really don't feel like rewriting it all so I'll try to sum it up.

My oringal post basicly was a question asking if you could get a job, but had to edit or rip sprites to get it, would you go for it? It was purely a rhetorical question. And in fact if someone were to ask me the same question, my reply would be more less be a carbon copy of what CrazyMLC typed. Even if the company didn't realize the art was ripped, I would know. That is the 'honor' I was referring to. Although maybe I should have said 'pride' instead.

If I can draw horses or not irrelevant because I just said that as an example. However, if you want to make it personal based on a false assumption.. please present your best horse drawing. Or, you could reread my first post and realize it was just an example.

The dictionary I have lists purist as "Someone who insists on great precision and correctness ". It has no bearing on skill level or range.

I am always learning, even if it isn't the way you went about it. I agree with you that strong line art skills would improve your pixel art. However, I disagree when you say you need them.

All in all, I more or less got the replies I had expected. A delightful blend of foolishness and helpful insight.
Thank you for helping to kill my boredom.

@TheOne: ... I'm not sure what I should say to you. We didn't need you to point out the dusty's RCR rip. It's a no brainer, even a novice could realize. Also, even if you think you're trying to be helpful, don't edit other people's sprites unless they ask for cnc, which I never did... which you did anyways,... in a topic about stolen art.....   ???




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General Discussion / Re: honor over dollars
« on: December 17, 2009, 10:54:41 am »
As I said before I've never edited, ripped or stole sprites after over 10 years of pixeling. And I'm not about to start now. Nor am I trying to get hired for a company that requires me to draw a horse. I think many of you are missing the point I was trying to make. I was asking a rhetorical question. So the answer wouldn't be what tetsuya should do, but what you'd do. Of course soon after posted this I realized my mistake. No one would admit to it. "You wouldn't rob a bank, but I should would!"...

When I created this post I was trying to see if there were other purists out there that felt the... discontent of not being able to draw anything and everything I want.  By contrast, being a writer would be so much easier. You could just type one sentence that could take days or weeks to draw. However, I'm not a writer, I'm a pixel artist.
I was just complaining aloud about my limited range and wondered if other people had the same thoughts. Of course I know the only way to improve is practice.

Still, thanks to Mr. Dusty, this topic isn't a total waste. His avatar isn't merely RCR style, it's a shameless rip/edit. I'd even go as far as saying other then the head, it's a pixel perfect copty. So I have something new for you to think about. All of you made it very clear that you were strongly against someone using edits/rips in order to get a job. However, since none of you corrected Mr. Dusty, you send the message that it's okay for a novice to steal and modify art as long as no money changes hands. Or did no one notice he ripped from one of the most famous NES games? Or is it no one cares? Discuss.


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