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Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: Scuba Steve on March 12, 2006, 06:28:07 am

Title: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image] Probably Finished
Post by: Scuba Steve on March 12, 2006, 06:28:07 am
This is new to me, I don't do isometric work very often, but I made an exception in this case.  My campus is having a vending machine competition and I decided to go for a very Voxel/Isometric look for the foreground, and for the background I emulated an Eboy style, something I've never tried.  I've cut the foreground out and just made a mask, I'll post that part with the entire thing when I'm finished, but for now I just want critiques on the isometric campus thus far.  There are plenty of errors since this is my first attempt at this, but hopefully they aren't as glaring to everyone else as they are to me.

1st Draft (http://www.doomworld.com/gbd2/misc/stcloudiso1.png)
2nd Draft (http://www.doomworld.com/gbd2/misc/stcloudiso2.png)
3rd Draft (http://www.doomworld.com/gbd2/misc/stcloudiso3.png)

(http://www.doomworld.com/gbd2/misc/stcloudiso4.png)

Suggestions and such appreciated.

Edit:  I'm pretty much finished with this.  If you want a character added you have until Sunday Night to post it.  There are a bunch of things I'd change if I did it again.  For starters I'd do a less realistic approach to landscape and try to squeeze as many prominent buildings into the frame as possible without as much blank area with trees (any suggestions on that?).  I would draw things in the right angle the first time so when they're mirrored their shaded side is matching the lighting.

Any final suggestions?  I'll post the final design when I work on it later tomorrow.

Edit 2: The Final Design (http://www.doomworld.com/gbd2/misc/vending4.png)
Title: Re: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image]
Post by: Xion on March 12, 2006, 06:34:54 am
Never been to the place, but it must rock to have floating sidewalks.
The base of the small tree looks offset from its foliage.

Is that a Pac-Man ghost?

Add some birds.
Title: Re: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image]
Post by: Dhaos on March 12, 2006, 07:04:16 pm
Very interesting... the palette is good, so is the layout. I'm still not sure what that big red-area is supposed to be once its finished... I will say I like that bus though, suprised you AA'd it at all since alot of iso is like never AA'd for some strange reason.

Crits:
-shadows near sidewalk make it look like its floating
-trees are leaning to the left...almost like they're falling over
-AA tone on the ghosts outline should bit a bit darker/more blue
-trees should have a cast shadow underneath

Can't wait to see this big sucker finished hehe.
Title: Re: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image]
Post by: Matriax on March 12, 2006, 07:14:35 pm
Mmmm i think the windows are wrong. The two windows in the top of the house. Or you make this with this style?
Title: Re: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image]
Post by: Gas 13 on March 13, 2006, 11:46:29 am
Love that blue something flying out of the house. The best part of this so far ::) Kidding

Well, I think the main problem so far is lighting. Just look at trees shading and bus shadow. Looks like they are from different pics. Looking forward to see more to comment.
Title: Re: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image]
Post by: Scuba Steve on March 19, 2006, 05:09:54 am
[Moved to first Post]

More.

I unfortunately started things in a different scale and don't feel like redoing them... fortunately its not as noticeable.
Title: Re: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image]
Post by: Blick on March 19, 2006, 07:53:26 am
I love it when pictures have a lot of interesting things to look at. In this case it's the characters (Oh man, WALDO!). I also love how you made their legs. That's a big problem for me with isometric people, legs.

I would like to see more points of interest on the buildings themselves, but I'm not sure what could be done to them.
Title: Re: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image]
Post by: goat on March 19, 2006, 05:36:25 pm
Maybe silhouettes of stuff visible through the windows? Anyway, the big trees have nipples and it really bothers me. 

Is Browning your name, or do you just really like sappy poetry?
Title: Re: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image]
Post by: vedsten on March 19, 2006, 06:19:26 pm
gawd your iso people rock!, the buildings look a bit halfassed in comparrison though epesc. the top one. I think it could easily be spiced up, extruding the windows (i dunno if this makes any sense) and generally just making some of the features of the building... ehmm... "pop out and in"). A bit of specific knitpicking- the top of the triangular disigns above some of the windows and doors on the bottom building are off. The offset of the peak on the windows should be moved a coupple of pixels to the right and a coupple of pixels to the left on the door design. On the other hand, fuck my comments, just make more of them iso people!
Title: Re: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image]
Post by: Scuba Steve on March 19, 2006, 08:53:17 pm
I can't help Boring architecture on Campus :(
Title: Re: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image]
Post by: Blick on March 19, 2006, 11:46:58 pm
Graffiti?
Title: Re: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image]
Post by: Scuba Steve on March 20, 2006, 01:03:37 am
We think alike my young Blick.
Title: Re: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image]
Post by: vedsten on March 20, 2006, 05:23:23 pm
Quote from: Scuba
I can't help Boring architecture on Campus Sad

Fair enough, well, if you can pull off blicks suggestion i'd be kewl too. mayby you could spice it up w. some people in some of the windows or sumthin', i dunno. i tried (and failed) doing a massive iso like this before, so im just impressed you got this far w. keeping color and style consistant
Title: Re: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image]
Post by: Scuba Steve on March 20, 2006, 10:45:06 pm
I did take your advice on the windows, and I tried adding some darker bricks here and there... I'll upload one again to show.
Title: Re: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image]
Post by: Scuba Steve on March 21, 2006, 04:58:14 am
Decided to start posting new versions in the first post with previous drafts as links.  So yeah, update.
Title: Re: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image]
Post by: Dhaos on March 21, 2006, 07:56:55 am
Gabe and Tycho hehe, I love those 'lil characters of yours. Your pic is really comming along... but why the nipple trees >_< I see a fad starting...

Btw who's the wolf dude?
Title: Re: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image]
Post by: Scuba Steve on March 22, 2006, 04:50:35 am
Brad Fang!
Title: Re: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image]
Post by: Sohashu on March 22, 2006, 09:33:37 am
Spidey.  Yeah.  I love it.  But those trees are wierd.  Blobby at the top=badness
Title: Re: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image]
Post by: Scuba Steve on March 22, 2006, 09:09:38 pm
I had an extrodinary idea!  If anyone wants to draw a character of themselves in the same size as the rest of the figures, and in a similar style... I will add it to the design.  This isn't a contest and there is no limit on the number you can make.
Title: Re: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image]
Post by: Filax_666 on March 22, 2006, 09:44:34 pm
Unbelievable! You made isometric people look good!

Seriously, almost everything is amazing!
Title: Re: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image]
Post by: pixelaro on March 22, 2006, 10:16:53 pm
hmm the guy with the glasses.. No offense intended but is that the you, or the guy from napoleon dynamite? ;)
love the people.. The colors are really nice, and those you used on the trees seem familiar too. Same palette as in that tree you submitted for that gba rpg project a long time ago?
Title: Re: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image]
Post by: Xion on March 23, 2006, 01:59:41 am
Either the bus is on the wrong side of the street, or the other cars are.
Title: Re: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image]
Post by: Aleiav on March 23, 2006, 04:05:06 am
I like the shading on the trees but something about them seems off. Maybe the dark outline? They need a bit of work.

Awesome job so far! I hope you win!
Title: Re: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image]
Post by: Sohashu on March 23, 2006, 11:17:36 am
ME holding my trusty lighter.  (I dont smoke.  Im just a pyro)
(http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/1569/mescuba3it.png)
Title: Re: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image]
Post by: neverest on March 23, 2006, 12:18:30 pm
looking great so far, I love big images like this. Excellent character ideas. I can only think of two things, one, make sure everthing/everyone has a shadow - although I'm sure you're getting to that. Second, perhaps make a few more people walking, currently a lot of people seem to be standing on the spot, a bit more movement would be nice. Again great work so far.


(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2118/squirrels6qw.gif)
hanging with the squirrels.

(http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/5781/guitar5hf.gif)
this ones not me hehe
Title: Re: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image]
Post by: Nix on March 23, 2006, 05:12:32 pm
LOL weres wally :D

illmake myselfsoon. icantnotbeinsumetthisgood. evenifitssomething small.
Title: Re: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image]
Post by: Zolthorg on March 24, 2006, 04:27:40 am
hmm the guy with the glasses.. No offense intended but is that the you, or the guy from napoleon dynamite? ;)
love the people.. The colors are really nice, and those you used on the trees seem familiar too. Same palette as in that tree you submitted for that gba rpg project a long time ago?

steve is the guy sitting with the 'browning'
Title: Re: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image] Probably Finished
Post by: IoIXoX on March 25, 2006, 07:28:45 pm
lol there's Mario and Luigi.
Title: Re: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image] Probably Finished
Post by: Sohashu on March 26, 2006, 02:23:18 am
(http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/1216/connction2vc.png)
I refined my entry.  I want to make piece with the alien.  We are friends.   ;) It has like lighting or something inbetween the out sretch hand.  And i am floating.
Title: Re: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image] Probably Finished
Post by: Faktablad on March 26, 2006, 03:45:11 am
What are the big empty red areas?  ???
Title: Re: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image] Probably Finished
Post by: Scuba Steve on March 26, 2006, 04:16:28 am
See the latest update in the first post to see what they are.
Title: Re: St. Cloud State University Iso [warning enormous image] Probably Finished
Post by: Sohashu on March 26, 2006, 05:46:07 am
aaaw. Im not in there. 

I think the blues are a good way to do it.  But the chunky coca cola doesnt look right with the rest.