Pixelation
General => General Discussion => Topic started by: AdamAtomic on July 25, 2009, 04:44:39 am
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I just finished writing the rough draft for a blog article on Gamasutra by that title:
http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/AdamSaltsman/20090724/2571/Pixel_Art_Freelance_Best_Practices__Guidelines.php
1 - From beginners (at either freelancing or hiring): was anything confusing or unclear? Anything you would like to know more about?
2 - From veterans (at either freelancing or hiring): did I get anything just plain wrong? Any subjects I missed that are particularly important?
Thanks ahead of time!
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As someone who isn't at all involved in the gaming side of pixelart (any commishes i do are stand alone peices for private use, ie, to hang on someone's wall/personal gallery) i have to say it was all interesting, concise and well exicuted. It kept interest the entire way through and felt neither rushed nor as if it was lacking in information. All around very informative and comprehensive without dragging on. :)
It was interesting to read even if it's not something i ever see myself getting into.
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I bet it would be a good read, but for whatever reason it won't show up, just get the site background : [
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I found it a good read, nothing was confusing to me. I love how you are completely open with the hourly rates, as a lot of artists don't like sharing that kind of information.
I think the part about underestimating time frames is important for people like myself who have only been freelancing for a few months. I've been guilty of this, as well as not taking design time into consideration.
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This is something I've been looking for, for a while now. I'm interested in reading it, but It shows blank, I can only see the log in stuff on the left and the ads on the right... do you have to log in to view it? or is this an error or something...?
EDIT: Nvm Adam, I clicked on your pro and got it from there haha... for some reason the link didn't work when I clicked on it. Anyways, here's the new link in case anyone can't get through...
http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/AdamSaltsman/20090724/2571/Pixel_Art_Freelance_Best_Practices__Guidelines.php (http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/AdamSaltsman/20090724/2571/Pixel_Art_Freelance_Best_Practices__Guidelines.php)
EDIT 2: Finished reading it... interesting. I am hoping you'll update it and add more content to it... or expand the sections with more information, I was a little dissapointed you were wanting to stop talking lol, keep sharing more tips and pointers on regards freelancing as a pixel artist. I can never get tired of that lol... specially since I'm still a beginner at this.
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""I need a logo design, but I only have $100. I know, I'll hold a contest!" No."
as if this wasn't already very helpful, that one line makes for total win.
I found nothing at all unclear, and it makes me want to try and do some work again :p but I don't have the programs to do it and any pixel art I do will be that fantasy of a game idea I have. Although, when discussing payment, I don't believe you talked much about paying by the asset. surely I'm not the only one to ever have done that? I've always found hourly wages too confusing because when I pixel I very often do it while IMing and suchery and would find it unfair to make someone pay for an hour if half of it was " lol omg"
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Yes, I often get asked to work by the asset also. I haven't done any "true" hourly jobs where by time logs are kept. Most of the time I will work out how long a job will take, apply the hourly rate, and then we both agree upon that fixed price. If it takes me longer than the said amount of hours to complete the work then that's my fault for underestimating.
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noted! I'm gonna keep collecting feedback all the way through the weekend, so keep it comin!
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Thanks for writing this, nicely executed and nothing was overly hard to understand.
The only constructive thing I have to say is that you could probably elaborate on the importance of the designs, maybe some figures about the impact it has on your pixelling time, for me designing can sometimes take longer than the pixelling itself, not sure if that's true for others but estimates from your experience could be useful.
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Excellent article, Adam! I really enjoyed reading it - very informative.
As far as feedback goes, I just wanted to point out one tiny proofreading thing:
...a few hundred kilobytes is more than enough for a small to medium-sized game.
This was missing an "a". ;D
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While reading the article, I was assuming that you were speaking of artists who were only doing this as their only job, or as their primary income. Would you still feel hourly wage is stressed, even upon those, like myself, who do freelancing as a sidejob, even though they have another full time job as their primary income?( I'm speaking about pre-settled rates for pieces done for an employer, on a per piece or animation basis, when a member is brought on later in the project...I know you feel it's a bit juvenile, but I would like to have a bit of clarification over it.)
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36 - thanks I'll fix it :)
BOB - I don't think stressing hourly wage is necessary even for people who DO do it full-time, but I think no matter what part of the project you're working on you should be getting fair wages for doing great work? There's definitely nothing WRONG with working for a project rate or a piece-by-piece rate, as long as you're being fairly compensated (if it's emergency help at the end of a project you should probably be making MORE than a fair wage though!). I'll re-read through those sections and make sure there as clear as I can manage.
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ok, rewrite complete, thanks for the feedback guys, I really appreciate it! http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/AdamSaltsman/20090724/2571/Pixel_Art_Freelance_Best_Practices__Guidelines.php