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Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: Dogmeat on January 07, 2009, 11:24:55 pm

Title: [WIP] - Pixeljointatar C&C Needed
Post by: Dogmeat on January 07, 2009, 11:24:55 pm
Hey all,

I'm working on a group activity over at pixel joint. It involves a new type of avatar where the bg is a repeating animal pattern ( 3 color ):

(http://www.mindcrank.com/dmtile.png)

And the foreground is an avatar of the artist (16 color ), I used arne's palette, or at least what I think is arne's:

(http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar23.PNG)

This is also my current working file

Nevermind the orange bar at the bottom and the palette, thats my working area since I'm using only MSPAINT for now.

Also, I'm going to fix the bg once I finish working on the avatar.

Here are my WIP's along with the reference that I started using around WIP 3 or so.

(http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pix_ref.jpg)

(http://www.mindcrank.com/three.png) (http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar.png) (http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar2.png) (http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar3.png)
(http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar5.png) (http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar6.png) (http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar8.png) (http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar9.png)
(http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar11.png) (http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar12.PNG) (http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar13.PNG) (http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar15.png)
(http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar16.png) (http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar17.png)  (http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar18.png) (http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar19.png)
(http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar20.png) (http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar22.png) (http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar23.PNG)


As for my working file, I could use some tips on the finer aspects of the glasses, hair, etc.. I'm not really focused on the clothing just yet, but I'll take crits on that too.

Thanks!
Title: Re: [WIP] - Pixeljointatar C&C Needed
Post by: Terley on January 08, 2009, 02:16:56 am
Supposed to be so tanned? To make a bit more white i'd shuffle all the skin tones a shade lighter along arnes palette. With the extra burst of red for palette interest.  :hehe:

(http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar9.png) (http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/4438/whiteow4.png) (http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/5988/white2rh2.png)

Further edit too, nitpicking but its a tough palette..

hope it helps
Title: Re: [WIP] - Pixeljointatar C&C Needed
Post by: Dogmeat on January 08, 2009, 02:45:15 am
Terley :)

I really wanted to use that red, thanks!

I just changed the colors at this point, but I see where it's going now so I'm going to detail it out.

Thanks again Terley,

(http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar10.png)

Updated:

(http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar11.png)
Title: Re: [WIP] - Pixeljointatar C&C Needed
Post by: NaCl on January 08, 2009, 05:17:56 am
Hey dogmeat, this is coming along well. I'm working on mine too, I'll post it for crit eventually.

I made a little edit:
Raised his left eye one pixel. Right now the angle of the head does not seem to justify a one pixel drop from the right eye.
I made the ear taller. Compared to the ref, I feel you made your pixel ear too short, though not too thin.
Played around with the smile a little. I am not yet good enough to really capture your smile, but I tried to make it a little closer.

(http://i44.tinypic.com/ayua1x.png)

Take or leave any of this. Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: [WIP] - Pixeljointatar C&C Needed
Post by: balls01 on January 08, 2009, 05:20:46 am
the ear looks like it has double sided sticky tape on the side, maybe bit of AA or something will fix that.
Title: Re: [WIP] - Pixeljointatar C&C Needed
Post by: Dogmeat on January 08, 2009, 04:45:10 pm
NaCl, nice!

My wife tells me my eyes aren't squinty all the time, and they are a lot more rounded, I'll post another reference later when I get a chance and rework them.

Also, my glasses are those transitions lens, so we'll see if I can pixel that as well.

Thanks for the C&C all.

here is a better pic of me with the glasses on:

(http://www.mindcrank.com/yoko_eye.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] - Pixeljointatar C&C Needed
Post by: Dogmeat on January 08, 2009, 06:21:22 pm
Several people have pointed out to me I :

1. Lost arne's palette feeling after this WIP
2. Looks more like me with this WIP
3. I also think its more stylish, this WIP:

(http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar3.png)

So I made an edit to it, really quick like, and I want your opinions, I think its feasable that I can take this next WIP all the way, what do you guys think?

(http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar12.PNG)
Title: Re: [WIP] - Pixeljointatar C&C Needed
Post by: skamocore on January 08, 2009, 07:22:50 pm
Looking good, you've come a long way since the you started.

an edit: (I have no idea why I'm replying here instead of pixeljoint  :-[)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v198/tumble_weed/dm_pixatar12-EDIT.png)

*I think you really need to fix the chin, yours is more of a bum chin :)
*What's with the gap in your lip?
*Ear needs some more definition
*Your avatar's glasses are far too thick.

I still don't get why you're using Arne's palette...but if you are going to use his palette, maybe try mixing up the colours a bit. His palette isn't really that great for achieving straight ramps.

quick edit #2 - playing around a bit more with the palette:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v198/tumble_weed/dm_pixatar12-EDIT2.png)
Title: Re: [WIP] - Pixeljointatar C&C Needed
Post by: Dogmeat on January 08, 2009, 07:31:50 pm
Yeah, I reply both here and PJ, but honestly, this forum is where the action is at as far as getting good C&C in a timely fasion. Also, I think more folks here are familliar with arne's palette.

I chose that specific palette because I've always wanted a video gamey looking avatar of myself and I really think the palette is rad, the colors are just so NICCEEE!

Also, its a challenge to me, I love challenges and I feel like a pixel chemist, mixing color combos together to see what the effect is.

I wouldn't mind using another palette, or modifying this one for my needs but one of the things I'm trying not to do is go for realism and pure ramps. I look around at panda's stuff, ptoing, etc.. and they are all able to use solid colors, no dither, etc.. to achieve a nice effect, panda especially.

A lot of my stuff is messy, even all these WIPs are too messy for me.

I want it to be smooth with bold colors.

I'll keep messin, if anyone has some color suggestions, by all means.

Update: Fudged during lunch, incorporated the light red more to blend the face, lost the highlight on the forehead though because it just seems to bright.

(http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar13.PNG)
Title: Re: [WIP] - Pixeljointatar C&C Needed
Post by: Dogmeat on January 09, 2009, 07:15:01 pm
Heres the latest, stole a ramp from one of fools pieces for the face, thinking bout putting a track suit on me.

(http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar15.png)

I think some of the features are still a little off, maybe you guys can help.
Title: Re: [WIP] - Pixeljointatar C&C Needed
Post by: balls01 on January 09, 2009, 08:08:20 pm
good day friend.

your chinny chin-chin isnt bum-chinny enough(no offence), but then again in the first refence there was no showing of any form of bum-chinness at all, so, i would go by that instead of the second one. glasses maybe just the una(1) pixel. this palette your are going about i have no clue what its about so i wont complain bout that. and your hair doesnt seem to branch out as far as you have it
Title: Re: [WIP] - Pixeljointatar C&C Needed
Post by: Dogmeat on January 09, 2009, 10:45:24 pm
Update:

Added "bum" to me chin.

Tweaked a bunch of other stuff.

(http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar16.png)
Title: Re: [WIP] - Pixeljointatar C&C Needed
Post by: Dogmeat on January 11, 2009, 03:15:38 am
Latest version, now without glasses, also working on facial anatomy:

(http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar17.png) (http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar18.png) (http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar19.png) (http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar20.png)
Title: Re: [WIP] - Pixeljointatar C&C Needed
Post by: Dogmeat on January 14, 2009, 09:02:42 pm
Heres the latest update, I think it's almost done. St0ven suggested that I desaturate the skin tones, I'll work on that later tonight:

(http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar22.png)

Changed palette, still could be some stray colors, I'll fix those and the shirt later:

(http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar23.PNG)

Done & with alternate BG:

(http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar25.png) (http://www.mindcrank.com/dm_pixatar26.png)


And a little doggy I made:

(http://www.mindcrank.com/tinydog.png)