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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ma3vis on October 28, 2021, 03:05:55 am

Title: Do People Still Use this Website/Forum?
Post by: Ma3vis on October 28, 2021, 03:05:55 am
It seems sorta dead. :/ I used to love this community but there doesn't seem much participation but the occasional holiday competition. Did something happen? Is this mostly used as a [Jobs] and [Paid Offers] board now? I know there was a discord channel for awhile, did the community move there?? Is there another more active community I am unaware of? There was DeviantArt back in the early 2000's, and PixelJoint and PixelDailies on Twitter but even those communities seem gone too. Where can someone go to find an active thriving supportive pixelart community now?
Title: Re: Do People Still Use this Website/Forum?
Post by: eishiya on October 28, 2021, 06:54:32 pm
Most of the community moved to Discord, yeah. PixelJoint has more art-related activity on the site, but even the users there seem to be mostly on Discord. Shame, because I don't get on with Discord for art feedback, the post format is just too inflexible >:

Another problem is that a lot of the older artists are too busy for this place or don't have use for it anymore, and there hasn't been much influx of newer artists, because most of them are on Twitter and Instagram and such instead, but those aren't communities as such.

Discord is mostly where the community has gone, but it's still splintered. And I've yet to find a pixel art Discord I like, there's not enough pixel art happening at any of them for my taste :'D (Granted, I haven't tried out very many, they're hard to find if you're not in the "in" crowd.)
Title: Re: Do People Still Use this Website/Forum?
Post by: Ma3vis on October 28, 2021, 07:12:45 pm
Is there any discord or website you might recommend at this time?
Despite none being satisfying, which one is most preferable to you?
Title: Re: Do People Still Use this Website/Forum?
Post by: eishiya on October 30, 2021, 06:07:39 pm
PixelJoint's the only somewhat-active website I can recommend.

As for Discords, I can't recommend any as I've not looked at any of them in a long time.
Title: Re: Do People Still Use this Website/Forum?
Post by: cels on October 31, 2021, 06:27:47 pm
In my opinion, the evolution of the internet has not been that positive for the pixel art community in terms of collective learning. Maybe I'm biased by nostalgia, but I feel like the move to social media and Discord have changed the way people communicate. When we used forums with threads, people would invest more time in tips and edits because their feedback would stay visible forever. Feedback didn't disappear in the feed and become invisible after a few hours, so people who were active with feedback would get more attention and praise for their work. There was as much praise for edits as for the originals, sometimes.

I also feel like whenever I try to critique someone in 2021 as opposed to 2015, they're often... just looking for compliments. It was always the case that some people were more willing to change their work than others, but now I feel like artists are more sensitive. If they don't like the CC, they will ignore you or react negatively instead of being grateful that someone tried to help. As pixel artists get better, there's also a bit of elitism going on, but I won't get into that. More importantly, I think the whole nature of Discord and Twitter is kind of angst-inducing. Everyone can see what is being said in real time. They can see if someone is typing. And when no one answers, the silence is deafening. If someone critiques your work on a server with a lot of people, it feels more significant than getting a reply in a thread. I have definitely sinned in different ways as well, so I'm not simply criticizing everyone else.

But yeah, maybe I'm just an old fart. There are some positive aspects too. I notice some Discord servers have a real fellowship going on. For some people, Discord is definitely better. I'm CELS # 2625 (without spaces) on Discord, I can send you invites to some Discord channels if you want to check them out. PJ is probably the best place to start though.
Title: Re: Do People Still Use this Website/Forum?
Post by: Ma3vis on October 31, 2021, 08:21:05 pm
Yes please, send anything you can that helps. Desperate here for some sort of community or support.
Title: Re: Do People Still Use this Website/Forum?
Post by: cels on October 31, 2021, 11:58:13 pm
Well, like I said, I can send you some invites on Discord. You have to add me though.  ;D
Title: Re: Do People Still Use this Website/Forum?
Post by: eishiya on November 02, 2021, 07:47:45 pm
Does the PJ Discord still have a single channel for both off-topic chatter and art feedback? That was one of the things I really didn't like about it when I was there, there was no way to mute channels such that I would only get notifications for art-related conversations. I suggested the idea of splitting them, but the moderation preferred to keep them merged.
Title: Re: Do People Still Use this Website/Forum?
Post by: cels on November 02, 2021, 11:42:11 pm
I'm on three big PA servers (PJ, Lospec and Pix) and they all have separate chat / off-topic channels. Lospec has started using threads in their art feedback channel, which seems like an ok compromise between forum and discord.
Title: Re: Do People Still Use this Website/Forum?
Post by: eishiya on November 04, 2021, 02:01:25 am
That's good to hear, thank you! Maybe I'll check the PJ server out again some time.
Title: Re: Do People Still Use this Website/Forum?
Post by: Ma3vis on December 04, 2021, 01:06:58 am
Well, like I said, I can send you some invites on Discord. You have to add me though.  ;D

My bad, just recently tried adding you. Feel free to send me that list when you can
Title: Re: Do People Still Use this Website/Forum?
Post by: Applefatdotgov on January 10, 2022, 01:12:51 am
Considering how many job offers I've gotten from merely posting a portfolio here, I'd say at the very least people trawl it for artists. as for actual activity? that's harder for me to say, as before making my portfolio I hadn't used this site in years.
Title: Re: Do People Still Use this Website/Forum?
Post by: eishiya on January 11, 2022, 01:23:59 pm
Considering how many job offers I've gotten from merely posting a portfolio here, I'd say at the very least people trawl it for artists
I'm glad to hear this. I haven't posted my portfolio here, but I was wondering if it was worth the effort. Since most of those threads don't get replies (I guess because people contact via email instead), it looks like they get no attention.
Title: Re: Do People Still Use this Website/Forum?
Post by: Atnas on January 21, 2022, 05:26:41 pm
For anyone with mod privileges the site is practically unusable, because the spam from unapproved topics and posts accumulates so fast. I'm not sure if addressing that would really do anything, but it definitely would mean the time spent checking the site for some people wouldn't always be pruning.
Title: Re: Do People Still Use this Website/Forum?
Post by: Applefatdotgov on January 22, 2022, 03:28:31 am
I'm glad to hear this. I haven't posted my portfolio here, but I was wondering if it was worth the effort. Since most of those threads don't get replies (I guess because people contact via email instead), it looks like they get no attention.
You'd be on the money with this. I mostly get emails or discord contacts, and one time I got a PM of all things.
Title: Re: Do People Still Use this Website/Forum?
Post by: SeinRuhe on January 25, 2022, 04:39:41 pm
I'm glad to hear this. I haven't posted my portfolio here, but I was wondering if it was worth the effort. Since most of those threads don't get replies (I guess because people contact via email instead), it looks like they get no attention.

Posting a portfolio here is definitely worth it, almost my entire income comes from this site! Although I personally find replies on portfolio related posts a bit annoying, I really wish for a way to lock replies on mine/make it read only :D. A good way to check the activity of a portfolio without relying on replies is to see how many views the post has!

(https://i.imgur.com/63fzkra.png)
Title: Re: Do People Still Use this Website/Forum?
Post by: thedaemon on March 08, 2022, 04:37:48 pm
I still visit occasionally and am trying to come back. I am migrating away from the new web with things like Discord, I find them a biggest distraction than a communication tool. lo spec web and the likes I'm finding much more relaxing and relatable to my old self. Forums and IRC are things I've been back into.
Title: Re: Do People Still Use this Website/Forum?
Post by: fskn on March 09, 2022, 06:53:06 am
Forums such as this one work much better for this type of conversation, display and archival of content than Discord, IMO.
I've tried to use a few Discord servers lately, but stuff just gets lost in the feed and it's never seen again.
Title: Re: Do People Still Use this Website/Forum?
Post by: thedaemon on March 10, 2022, 04:10:10 pm
I think you hit the main issue with Discord vs Forums. Forums can easily keep a searchable log. Discord, while searchable isn't setup for a good history.

Forums such as this one work much better for this type of conversation, display and archival of content than Discord, IMO.
I've tried to use a few Discord servers lately, but stuff just gets lost in the feed and it's never seen again.