Pixelation
Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: Cow on May 25, 2008, 07:05:03 pm
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Here's some stuff I'm working on atm.
(http://cow.lastchancemedia.com/zachy.png)
I was going for a garish old school look and used the NES palette for a bit but I modified it because it wasn't doing me any favours in the face area. :(
(http://cow.lastchancemedia.com/alex4.png)
Remake of Alex from SFIII for a challenge at Pixel Joint to make an old age version. But I kind of quickly stopped caring about making him look old and shifted priorities to just finishing it because I haven't ever made a decent looking fighter sprite.
(http://cow.lastchancemedia.com/don1.png)
One I started yesterday. Based on this image: http://www.thelastwonderoftheworld.com/PODimages/153.jpg (http://www.thelastwonderoftheworld.com/PODimages/153.jpg).
Crits would be wonderful, I'll keep you guys updated on these. Thanks.
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I'd say they're all going good right about now. Ony thing I don't like is the use of pure black in the bottom ones hair. Maybe a color more like: R: 77 G: 73 B: 66. Wait that's lighter than the rest how bout: r20g20b23
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Ony thing I don't like is the use of pure black in the bottom ones hair.
Why? I don't see the problem with it. Is it just because its pure black or does it actually make the image look off to you? maybe my monitor needs calibrating...
I like the way the bottom one is going. It isn't terribly close to the reference but I don't think that's much of an issue. Uhhh no real crits from me
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If i have a real crit it's that you've made a white person with black skin in the third one, not a black person.
(http://xs127.xs.to/xs127/08222/ut-oh849.png)
see how the lower version maintains his racial identity, while yours rapidly becomes a spokesman for guinness?
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Thank you Adarias. :) You're very right. I'm just doing some sketching before I enter the eerie world of pixels so I can get it right beforehand and righter when I actually apply it.
(http://cow.lastchancemedia.com/hugh.png)
Y/N?
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You appear to be making up some shades (temples) and angles/widths (forhead width, eyebrow angles). I'm not saying thats wrong, because the artist's job is to be more appealing than life (this is debatable, I believe, but I'll say it anyways because I've not a lot of time to think about it), I'm just saying you should be aware and know why you're doing it, and if you really want to deviate from the image in the way you are.
I'm really impressed with your overall technique, I'll make sure to keep checking this thread.
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You appear to be making up some shades (temples) and angles/widths (forhead width, eyebrow angles). I'm not saying thats wrong, because the artist's job is to be more appealing than life (this is debatable, I believe, but I'll say it anyways because I've not a lot of time to think about it), I'm just saying you should be aware and know why you're doing it, and if you really want to deviate from the image in the way you are.
Actually that's mostly a side effect of my mental retardation. I was reffing off of Adarias's lightened version and not my actual ref so I just made up stuff as I went. :-[ In faaact...
(http://cow.lastchancemedia.com/hugh2.png)
Anyways I'll stop fiddling with this sketch and maybe get to work on the actual pixel. :-*
I'm really impressed with your overall technique, I'll make sure to keep checking this thread.
Thanks. <3
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Great progress. Before playing with hue, deal with value. Push the contrast, cover a range. There's so many variations of black people complexion, but that person looks African, so I'd say a deeper ebony fits him.
(http://www.locustleaves.com/blackdude.gif)
When you use a washed out reference, you're not seeing the highlights on the skin (this is a problem Godslayer faced recently also). This is a shame as black peoples' skin is very beautifully reflective in terms of specular qualities. It turns yellow light into a strange metallic sorta dead blue and whatnot. There's many movie examples you can look at for more of those. Black people when stylized should look it in their noses and lips a bit, I edited to that direction. The red arrow points to a ubiquitous highlight a person with oily skin (or just sweaty) gets that I find brings so much 'spirit' to a drawing of a face. You might not want to abuse it, but keep it in mind.
*edit, I realised you're not using a washed out reference, good. So you know where the highlights hit. Make use of this knowledge instead of inventing lights for now.
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I just came out of a little slump full of roguelike playing and hockey watching, so sorry for the lack of updates. But I have one now. Also I decided to turn this into the real piece and not just a sketch because... I want to. Doesn't make sense to set myself back for something that's done for my own enjoyment anyhow.
And as it so happens the website that had my ref is down, and I didn't save it. So, Helm, your edit was quite helpful. <3 Here's the latest:
(http://cow.lastchancemedia.com/hugh7.gif)
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I, however, did.
(http://lorne.lastchancemedia.com/Images/two/ForCow.jpg)
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now that I saw this on a proper monitor it looks fine. Damn Mac. :ouch:
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(http://cow.lastchancemedia.com/pixel/hugh9.gif)
smallish update
not dead :ouch:
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This neck is a tree-trunk. Because it's obscured by the beard in reference, you make a call that is false! This means you need to do a lot more studies on physicality on the fundamental level, not from looking at photographs only. Learning sizes and lengths of the various parts takes a bit of book study, I'm afraid.
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(http://cow.lastchancemedia.com/hugh10.gif)
Work continues, beard is added (kind of), small tweaks on pretty much everything, ear. I'm getting kind of sick of this but there's a long way to go yet.
This neck is a tree-trunk. Because it's obscured by the beard in reference, you make a call that is false! This means you need to do a lot more studies on physicality on the fundamental level, not from looking at photographs only. Learning sizes and lengths of the various parts takes a bit of book study, I'm afraid.
Is this the power of... SCIENCE? I will look into this. Now that school's done I have time to hit the books. :B
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I think that you have either misinterpreted or invented some of the highlights on the piece. For instance the forehead highlight is misplaced as are the highlights on the nose and cheek. For the most the facial structure is fairly accurate, however I would broaden the cheek somewhat and now that I look at it the crown needs a little reshaping (not seen in my edit). Clean up the hair a little it may help when defining forms as it has the potential to be somewhat misleading. I attempted to emulate the eye lid highlights more, however I think it turned out a bit off (he looks high), but I hope you get the idea. My main point is at this stage (after correcting the highlights) you can just start refining details. I hope my sloppy edit helps a bit at getting the image more similar to the reference.
(http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/7554/rehighlightbu0.png)(http://lorne.lastchancemedia.com/Images/two/ForCow.jpg)
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I think that you have either misinterpreted or invented some of the highlights on the piece.
The latter. I was without adequate reference during the time that the broad strokes were made.
I really like what you did with the nose. Thanks for the thorough crits. Update coming soon.
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(http://cow.lastchancemedia.com/alex6.png)
Needed a break from the other guy.
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that left hand looks squashed, backwards, and amorphous. i'm not that great with pixelling hands, but i'd try a more "fighting style" friendly position for it to be in.
like the right hand in the reference.
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(http://cow.lastchancemedia.com/alex6.png)(http://www.locustleaves.com/alex7.png)
Also I might take this opportunity to say that capcom art is pretty hilarious. We're all being mean about the HD remake of SFII, but this isn't really much more plausible or useful imo. What is that, a tumour ready to pop on his shoulder?
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I'd just like to note the fact that SF3 and SF Alpha sprites have this weird widened quality to them because the arcade machines they were originally displayed on had non-square pixels, the pixels were slightly taller than they were wide so this results in our viewing the sprites as strangely wide.
Not that it excuses the bizarre construction of Alex's left arm....when animated the movement of his hand is even more inhuman.
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(http://cow.lastchancemedia.com/alex7.png) (http://cow.lastchancemedia.com/alexanim1.gif)
I like the way the hand looks now but it really makes no sense pose wise (unless he's a violent panhandler). I'll fix it. Also the upper arm of his left arm needs lengthening, I thought I fixed that but I guess not.
Also I might take this opportunity to say that capcom art is pretty hilarious. We're all being mean about the HD remake of SFII, but this isn't really much more plausible or useful imo. What is that, a tumour ready to pop on his shoulder?
I'll quote my past-self here: "Yeah the original has some pretty wonky bits and overall is pretty disgusting, which is part of the reason I made the remake. To tone it down with extreme prejudice." Thanks a lot for the edit, it was quite helpful, and I think it looks better now.
Not that it excuses the bizarre construction of Alex's left arm....when animated the movement of his hand is even more inhuman.
You mean your fingers don't move left and right, and you don't flex your thumb when you stand around? ???
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I feel most points of my edit have been adressed in your current version. Good job. Keep it up. Why not go ahead and finish the rendering before a rain of nitpickery starts to build?
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I dont think the abs are currently supporting his pose right now - with his legs facing one direction and his upper-body facing the other. Showing a bit more twist in his abs should solve this. Right now it is very detached and breaks the flow. More detailed critique later
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Before you tackle Indigo's point I would say plan out a new pose altogether, I know its been said but I think it is very important you do it now before going any further. The pose definitely doesn't fit. It looks more like his asking for money or he will stab you with his invisible knife than ready to bust out a fighting move. I immediately thought of a few minor changes by looking at the image you have at the moment that would give a more realistic pose, however it doesn't suit the character you have at all.
(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1018/metalgearsw6.png)
:P
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Would you believe I'm still working on these?
(http://cow.lastchancemedia.com/hugh12.gif)
Step back in terms of rendering, I want to get all the other stuff right first. Nose and lips are still a little off though.
Changes animation:
http://cow.lastchancemedia.com/hugh12anim.gif (http://cow.lastchancemedia.com/hugh12anim.gif)
EDIT:
(http://cow.lastchancemedia.com/hugh14.gif)
EDIT AGAIN:
(http://cow.lastchancemedia.com/hugh15.gif)
Gonna start finishing this up unless there's any objections.
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It's bad form to throw a bit of dither on the forehead and not anywhere else.
The volumes for this are astounding. I hope your finish is as good as this piece demands.
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Good lord, that's looking incredible, and it's certainly come a long way from where you started. Large (and by this I mean anything larger than, say, 64x64 :P) pixel pieces such as this always managed to astound me, simply for the patience required to work on them. Anything on this scale I'd personally just paint and leave the pixelling for touchup work only. :crazy:
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(http://i.imgur.com/4fFQHuB.gif)
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I think the shoulders could be a little wider. Great job so far :)
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Maybe it's a bit to dark
(http://www.abload.de/img/2013_7_29_facelxrgk.png)
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That's a real nice edit, thanks. I was thinking that I would alter the colours a bit so it looks better on lighter backgrounds.
(http://i.imgur.com/cg9jaH3.png)
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Looking really good, very nice job on the cape. The only thing that you changed now that I don't really like is the way you defined the hair in round lumps. Right now it looks like paches of dirt. I'm not entierly sure but I think if you aproached the hair the same way you did with
the beard you might get a better result. less defined with more hint of details.
Very nice progress!
/coffee
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(http://i.imgur.com/HJo3i7e.png)
i think i'm calling it done
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Seeing as how it's 5 years old, I would hope so. :crazy:
It's very nice, such a static image but still has a lot of energy to it.