Pixelation
Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: 00x on April 08, 2008, 12:41:19 pm
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Hi ;D
i new in all this thing and this is my first pixel, i dont realy know how to do good face (or do face at all :P)
and from what i saw here my colors isn't very good too..
so help plzz :)
(http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2145/mmakj1.png)
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Hey, this is great! Just a few of things i notice about it:
1: He looks off balance. Having his back straight (Actually, it looks like he's leaning forward) and his arms thrust out is a hard pose to achieve, especially if he's a fighter.
2:His fists should be clenched, unless he's trying to break a board or something.
3: Are you using a photo reference? it looks pretty good, but a reference WILL help.
(http://www.maj.com/gallery/exendia/Misc/ksd.png)
4: What is this for? Just practice, or for a game?
and 5: He's pillow shaded. :-\ (Meaning there is no direct light source)
As for the face and colors, ill do an edit later to see if i can help more.
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~ello
I'm kinda new here too. :)
Also I agree with coran.
First of all you should get ride of that pillow shading, it really makes thigns look worse, secondly add lightsource.
Here is some quick and rough edit I made, I'm not really good at helping when it comes to anatomy, but here's some thoughts I think that might help you.
(http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1473/editll0.png)
edit: messing around ~
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Welcome to the boards 00x :)
I like your character. He looks like a wrestler to me.
As mentioned, he is pillowshaded, but he also feels a bit cluttered. I believe it's because you've tried to convey everything with lines.
It's better to use volumes, especially on sprites this size since there's not much room for actual lines.
As for drawing heads (and anatomy in general) I'd suggest to get a hold of some books by Andrew Loomis. It's very good stuff and will help you considerably.
Looking at what you're currently doing I'd suggest the book "Fun with a Pencil"
I also did an edit of your sprite. I tried changing his legs posing a little as well, to give him a more wrestler-y appearance. :P
I also flattened his feet. Since he's so small it looked like he didn't really stand on anything.
EDIT// I meant, since the character is so small it's okay to make the feet flat. Makes i look more like they are actually standing on something.
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j135/mr_norris/wrestlerman_edit.gif)
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You've got some good critique here, I made a rushed edit on paint to initially just alter his balance and suggest a directional light souce, you guys have beat me with more in-depth critiques. Wasn't trying to stray so far from your original but what the hey, im suggesting this as a small step forward.
(http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3060/guyxc9.png)
Have a bit more contrast with your colours, lighter lights, darker darks. so you're forms are easier to control on a character this size. Theres no need to shade from the outside in, its a small sprite so I wouldn't waste any space cluttering it up with that.
Other small changes were to pull his arm closer to his body, pull up his groin a pixel or two shortening his chest and giving him slightly longer legs. Also think in your version his head is too far right.
Hope any of it helps, you have a few different perspectives on this, just be open minded and use what ever helps to push this along.
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WoW ! u do this so great really !! :o :D
coran:its for practice+learn how to do this lol...after all this i will working on a game
LMR:WOW ur colors is sooo good !!! i will work on ur color style
Luzeke:cool i love how u make his legs posing, i will try do this too
Terley:tnx man ! but with the arm i try something, maybe its not very good..
O.K so i try all what u say but still i dont get the lightsource thing yet..
o.k:
(http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/5112/mmaja0.png)
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luzekes pose is really good =)! stick to that xD
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I think Terley's edit says "fighter" more than the others, unless you're going for a grappling stance. It also has much better balance, as he pointed out.
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O.k so here another edit
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5543/mma2az4.png)
how this ?
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FANTASTIC.
You're doing much better.
Q though:
whats that multicolored thing on his arm?
It doesn't look like a tat, unless that's not what it's supposed to be. :-[
As promised, an edit will come later. :D
Seriously.
Oh, and his chin disappears into his body. :huh: Other than that though, as said, FANTASTIC.
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Copying and pasting stuff isn't the best way to improvement. You didn't even manage to merge some colors that differ a bit.
I had my edit for you, but when I saw what the others did I considered it being useless :P.
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Copying and pasting stuff isn't the best way to improvement. You didn't even manage to merge some colors that differ a bit.
I had my edit for you, but when I saw what the others did I considered it being useless :P.
u right, but some of the things i don't succeed to do. This why i ask for help my friend :)
coran:tnx man ! and yes, its NEED to be a tat... :-[ i will edit this later and try fix his chin :)
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Copying and pasting stuff isn't the best way to improvement. You didn't even manage to merge some colors that differ a bit.
I had my edit for you, but when I saw what the others did I considered it being useless :P.
Yeah, I noticed that too, and maybe this is just a freaky coincidence, but the shorts on his guy have a very similar color scheme to one of the guys the the thread I posted last week (http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?topic=6180.0):
(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb296/smoogyfc/lyotosprite01e.png)
Using another image as a starting point is not necessarily a pixel crime in my opinion, but you have to turn it in to your own completely. None of this copy and paste stuff.
EDIT: Ok, now I know why it was a similar looking color scheme, you took the entire palette from my Lyoto piece:
(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb296/smoogyfc/lyotoproof01.png)(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb296/smoogyfc/lyotoknockoff01t.png)
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Okay, copying art is illegal. Whether just on this forum or in real life. Using art as a reference is okay, but a carbon copy isn't. Stealing palettes is also not cool, and it only makes it worse that you assumed no one will notice and did not sate it.
But this falls into a mod's or admin's job, so i shut up now. :-X
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Ok yeah, looks like he cribbed the lines from one and the palette from the other, look at the legs:
Edit: And the head off of another one!
(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb296/smoogyfc/bignogsprite01pb.png)(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb296/smoogyfc/lyotoknockoff01t.png)(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb296/smoogyfc/pennsprite01pb.png)
I'll give you this much, you put quite a bit of effort into this.
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WHAT ?!
man i promise to u that i dont copy !
its my first pixel and right, ur pixel were my model and i try do something good like u did but i never copy from u man ! i dont do "copy paste" at all !
u saw how it look in first when i publish it, if i was copying all ur pixel its never was look like this...
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No one said ALL the pixels had to be copied for it to be unacceptable.
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oh man, if that took someone pixel for be my model, and dont copy anything, just to see how to do thing, its SO wrong-so sory, pliz close my topic...and smoogy if i hurt ur feelings that i took ur pixel for be my model, so i sory too.. :sry:
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Those legs are definitely copied. If it was just a palette thing I might let it slide. The thing is, when someone goes in there and swipes the legs off of a character, he's really approaching learning art in a bad way. Usually to underline this we ban for a year, so, no hard feelings man, if you want to participate you can come back in 365 days from now.