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Title: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Panda on January 01, 2008, 12:59:30 am
With a New Year, why not a new OT thread, so here it is  :D

Please keep it clean, have fun and don't spam.

Happy 2008 and all.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on January 01, 2008, 01:10:01 am
This is going to be the worst first post ever.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Pan on January 01, 2008, 01:10:21 am
Spam.  Man, just a few more hours till 2008.  Hopefully a great year! 

Happy Holidays, all. 
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Indigo on January 01, 2008, 01:20:19 am
Well I'm here in times square right now.(54th and 7th actually. The ball is but a spec in the distance) I'm trapped in a little pen like a helpless animal for the next 4 hours at least. No food no bathroom and either the dude or the gal behind me keeps fondling my butt... Let's hope its the girl >_<  anyway, happy new year to all!  I hope its starts off better for you than mine :P
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on January 01, 2008, 07:30:01 am
heh, we stayed the hell out of times square.  There were enough loonies on the N train as it was just going to brooklyn.  Sat up on a rooftop in crown heights and counted at least 9 separate fireworks displays.  good times.

happy new year pixelation
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Pan on January 01, 2008, 07:37:24 am
I wish I was in NYC this year, usually I visit my mom, she lives on the Hudson river.  Ah well, maybe next year.   
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Dusty on January 01, 2008, 09:05:17 am
Came home to people firing off their guns into the air. And no, I'm not in the country :P
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Zolthorg on January 01, 2008, 08:07:34 pm
dusty did you ever find out how to calibrate an lcd properly  ???
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Dusty on January 01, 2008, 11:09:32 pm
I'm not sure if mines is calibrated right or not. I've looked up various things, but nothing in particular is helpful... at least when it comes to colors. It all mostly looks right to the eyes, but a few things just really stand out as wrong to me like a few shades of dark red.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: crab2selout.png on January 02, 2008, 01:24:14 am
there's a program called quickgamma I use to calibrate my CRT.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Faktablad on January 02, 2008, 01:29:28 am
I rang in the new year by running outside to look at the stars.  Then my friend and I ran to the beach, it was cool.  There was no moon so the stars were really bright.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on January 02, 2008, 04:25:53 am
Dude, that's way better than what I did :P   Sat on Pixelation all night :P
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Pan on January 02, 2008, 04:40:42 am
When the countdown ended, my friend and I went running, we ran about four block, but turned because it was snowing. 
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Terley on January 02, 2008, 04:55:08 am
I cant remember the countdown I was so zoned out :blind:

I spent it with my my brother and a mate trying to just reelax  ^-^
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on January 02, 2008, 05:14:57 am
Dude, that's way better than what I did :P   Sat on Pixelation all night :P

that sucks considering there were only like 6 new posts
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on January 02, 2008, 05:44:55 am
that sucks considering there were only like 6 new posts

Yeah, I really need to get some more content-full critiques going  :P
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Faktablad on January 02, 2008, 07:03:23 am
I spent the actual countdown feeling almost physically wounded by how old and terrible Dick Clark sounds.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: elise on January 02, 2008, 07:05:43 am
I spent New Year's Eve at my b-i-l's, out in the country... we had a bon fire, shot fireworks, ran around in circles with sparklers. :D

It beat sitting at home listening to Mylie Cyrus and the Jonas Brothers on the countdown. ;) I have to listen to enough of that crap as it is.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Opacus on January 02, 2008, 02:56:10 pm
New year's eve was fun:
(http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6561/hahahaco4.jpg)

I think it was 15 meters long or something :)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on January 03, 2008, 04:56:19 am
Are those M60's, Opickus? They look like em, what with the green fuse, but I'm not too sure.

   Oh, and just to be a jerk-ass, I just saw a trailer for Soul Calibur 4...and it sucks. Still not sure why Namco or any other game company doesn't take hints from the 2d greats, and give their games CHARACTER AND PERSONALITY!! Seriously, all the 3d models look like effin' robots(no offense robot santa). The ladies have the hugest TIG OLE BITTIES, yet they are still able to jump so elegantly! Take Taki, for example: Her bewbs have been so big since SC 2, that if they release another sequel, she's gonna be MIA in the SC tourney circuit due to back pains of carrying those two mountain tops on her chest. Same goes to Ivy...or any other DOA fighting character...
Also, the male characters are guilty as well. Half of the designs seem to have de-evolved through idiocracy, in my opinion. And this is so ironic, coming from a person like myself, butttttt...STOP PACKING SO MUCH DESIGN AND CRAP INTO YOUR CHARACTER DESIGNS! History has taught us, that quality, NOT quantity make a good and recognizable game design. Examples? Ryu: simple, yet memorable: white karate Gi, with the traditional red bandanna. Mario...a f***in' red and blue plumber's outfit(yet I wish designers would make him more gruff, less anime-ish...not 'roid gruff, just a simple style redo, that isn't so kiddy..), Solid Snake, and Naked Snake( big boss or whatever...), Link, Sonic, etc...
   I'm also tired of the shat voice dubbs. Honestly, I'd rather hear the voices in the original language, with subtitles, rather than horrible voice overs. Feels like they castrate one's culture everytime it's done, and in my opinion, brings the value of a game down. That, or get better voice actors, who aren't just doin' it for the money (not fanboys either, mind you)
   And of course, take a chill pill on the mother truckin' muscles already. I'd really don't want to be on the hate train over the new Street Fighter game, but honestly, Ken and Ryu have really been working out since we last saw them. The whole point of Ryu's initial character was to be the underdog, or little guy who overcame giants, and what not. Not some freak or Japanese god! This goes for all games, as most protagonists are beefed up buffoons. Better be careful, heroes, else you'll end up with a bad case of roid rage, akin to the curse of The Warrior...*SNARRLLL* (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P39b7v1wzfg)

"Should I lay on the lawn, and let it run me over with law mowers?!?"...best wrestler ever...(God, I hated that guy back then)

Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Opacus on January 04, 2008, 01:47:07 pm
I have no idea Beast of Burden, but it could be.

By the way, I was looking at the front page of YouTube and found this to be quite amusing :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0LtUX_6IXY
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: willfaulds on January 04, 2008, 02:01:44 pm
haha pretty good but it led me on to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84_QL1kEmH4&feature=related
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Meta|Fox on January 06, 2008, 01:04:44 am
>_< I probably shouldn't have but I really found that genuinely amusing. though i must say some of the shapes looked pretty much impassable, unless you could fly that is.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: crab2selout.png on January 06, 2008, 11:43:09 am
Take Taki, for example: Her bewbs have been so big since SC 2, that if they release another sequel, she's gonna be MIA in the SC tourney circuit due to back pains of carrying those two mountain tops on her chest. Same goes to Ivy...or any other DOA fighting character...

Sorry for ignoring the bulk of your post, but I love Taki. First time I heard her attack on SC2, the one where she runs and screams at you, I literally fell over with laughter. For a little while I couldn't even play against her as tiniest scream would set me off and I'd drop the controller. More Taki and less scary dominatrix/leather fetish like Voldo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC4aXT_jC5k&feature=related
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: JJ Naas on January 06, 2008, 06:47:00 pm
Character design wise I'd like to see more ugly looking guys. Snake with a mullet and a mustache is a good idea. The Chaos Engine dudes were ugly bastards in a very good way. Good looking women are preferable as long as they wear something sensible and functional in a battle situation.
Title: To play Dodonpachi..?
Post by: Mathias on January 06, 2008, 09:46:00 pm
After becoming so familiar with DoDonPachi through posts here, I can no longer delay in playing it.

I run a PC. http://www.romnation.net/srv/emulators.html (http://www.romnation.net/srv/emulators.html) has any emulator you could want but which do I need? I can only find vague info on this. If it's an "arcade" emulator I need, is there more than one?

I've already downloaded the emulated DoDonPachi game files here: http://www.romnation.net/srv/roms/22524/mame/DoDonPachi-International.html (http://www.romnation.net/srv/roms/22524/mame/DoDonPachi-International.html)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Zolthorg on January 06, 2008, 10:27:43 pm
Mame is the cabinet emulator
that said roms are bad  ;) : :-X
don't talk about such illegal things on the boards
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Pan on January 07, 2008, 12:40:39 am
Why am I having so much trouble staying logged in.   >:(
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on January 07, 2008, 01:05:55 am
Stop clicking "LOGOUT".   ??? Duh.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Pan on January 07, 2008, 01:23:55 am
Lol, I'm not hitting log out.  Before, it would keep me logged in.  Now I have to keep signing in.  Thinks it's good now. 
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: eck on January 07, 2008, 02:52:11 am
when I type in 'pixelation.wayofthepixel.net' into the address bar and it brings me to the home page, I always appear logged out, but as soon as I click a subcategory, I log in.  strange, eh?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: crab2selout.png on January 07, 2008, 04:37:33 am
when I type in 'pixelation.wayofthepixel.net' into the address bar and it brings me to the home page, I always appear logged out, but as soon as I click a subcategory, I log in.  strange, eh?

That's funny. I've got pixelation favourited and the URL is http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/

Could the two different URLs be affecting the cookies for staying logged on?

Also, everyone should go watch the new American Gladiators. It's deliciously cornball. There's this gladiator on it who looks exactly like Sabretooth off XMEN. During a king of the hill challenge where he had to keep the challenger from getting to the top of a step pyramid, he took the challenger and dbl flipped with him to the bottom of hte pyramid. And on the second flip he BODY-SLAMMED the poor nut on the second/third last step.

It ranks among the greatest TV moments ever.

Seriously guys, get watching.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Pan on January 07, 2008, 04:51:01 am
Whens it come on?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Faktablad on January 07, 2008, 04:54:23 am
Tonight it was on at 9:00, but its regular time will be Mondays at 8:00PM.

God, I loved that show.  So much unnecessary drama. 
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Pan on January 07, 2008, 05:00:31 am
Yeah, when I was younger, they would play the old ones on Spike or something, always loved that. 

And man, I REALLY hope there's a Pixelator this year, I check the Challenges/Activities section whenever I can.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: crab2selout.png on January 08, 2008, 12:21:51 am
It rocks hard. Also, Hulk Hogan is a host.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Faktablad on January 08, 2008, 04:06:24 am
Try counting how many times he says "brother" per show.  It's funny.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on January 08, 2008, 05:16:55 am
man is monday night a slow night on this forum or what.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: elise on January 08, 2008, 06:10:24 am
Maybe everybody's watching football? :P Maybe not. Regardless... GEAUX TIGERS!

In other news... I had to get a new computer and it has an LCD monitor, which is nice for some stuff, but definitely not for pixel art. Even the nicest pieces look like crap right now. Maybe I just have to adjust some stuff... but I'm not impressed so far.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Frychiko on January 08, 2008, 09:18:11 am
Maybe you just got yourself a crappy LCD?


Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: huZba on January 08, 2008, 09:47:08 am
Use the native resolution and you're good to go. Any res other than native will blur pixel art real bad.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Opacus on January 08, 2008, 10:21:27 am
It rocks hard. Also, Hulk Hogan is a host.

Then I'm certainly not watching it.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: im9today on January 09, 2008, 12:51:15 am
Still hard at work on the Banana Nababa remake I was doing with some guys from Perfect Run if anyone cares.
(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5152/vodooshiwc8.png)

and here's an improved version

(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6861/vodooshiwcjk2.gif)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on January 09, 2008, 02:37:29 am
Still hard at work on the Banana Nababa remake I was doing with some guys from Perfect Run if anyone cares.
(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5152/vodooshiwc8.png)
Arrrrgh I so want!
Not that I could get past the second boss, anyway.


Also: My birshday is two weeks from now, and I don't know which I should ask for: Boots or a Playstation 2. What are your guyses thoughts?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: crab2selout.png on January 09, 2008, 07:18:17 am
It rocks hard. Also, Hulk Hogan is a host.

Then I'm certainly not watching it.

It works. Believe in teh hulkster. *tears off shirt*
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Ben2theEdge on January 09, 2008, 02:19:42 pm
Still hard at work on the Banana Nababa remake I was doing with some guys from Perfect Run if anyone cares.
(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5152/vodooshiwc8.png)

and here's an improved version

(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6861/vodooshiwcjk2.gif)

Seeing as earlier in this thread people were talking about character designs, it must be said that I love, love, LOVE your redesign of the main character. He looks like a perpetually annoyed little cat demon thing. He's bursting at the seams with personality. Genius.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: JonathanOfDrain on January 09, 2008, 02:36:00 pm
Boots? Like the pirate's boots with a hidden compartment in the heel? I'm all for the boots now that you mentioned that. OH OH OH! Get a secret decoder ring and you can write hidden messages to girls you have crushes on like I did.
D: They never understand how I felt. I was hoping they'd like that I sent them notes and then they'd date me and I'd give them the decoder ring for them to decode the messages with./

Gosh, I was such a wreck back in 5th grade. A terrible geeky messy wreck. I'm surprised I turned out as I did.

Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: elise on January 09, 2008, 02:52:52 pm
I was home schooled during fifth grade.  :'( But in fourth grade a boy gave me a friendship bracelet and we went to a pizza party together. Then he dumped me for my friend, then dumped her too, so I threw a stinging caterpillar at him. Ah, the good ol days.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: JonathanOfDrain on January 09, 2008, 02:58:42 pm
I was home tutored for half of a year. I had to develop new friends. My best friend was my bed and I'd always talk to him about my life problems. The school bully was replaced with my older sister. She pulled my hair a lot. I played a lot of video games, beat them all. I didn't go out much and kind of lost my will to leave my house. But it was nice to finally put real clothes on again. Gosh, freshman year was tough.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: elise on January 09, 2008, 03:07:11 pm
I had an older brother. He didn't pull my hair but he did make me do his schoolwork. We still left the house a lot. My mom wasn't always the most attentive teacher. At least once a week, we'd strap our fishing gear to our bikes and ride past the public school playground during recess, mostly because it was the easiest way to get to the pond, but also just to show them how much fun they were missing.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Jamie on January 09, 2008, 03:46:04 pm
This is the result of my wacom pen that has been dropped far to many times (2 cracks in total) part of which is obviously missing

(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/2217/picture004oh3.jpg) (http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/2912/picture005ku5.jpg)
(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9226/picture006wf2.jpg)

Pretty much cant use it, as the nib gets shorter when pressing down it only is rarely fine for just normal clicking but not drawing  :n:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Feron on January 09, 2008, 07:57:37 pm
Can we have the normal smileys back now... since xmas is over and all....
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: MrMister on January 09, 2008, 11:50:23 pm
Take care of your electronics, man. That's terrible. :mean:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on January 10, 2008, 12:34:09 am
Can we have some completely new smileys now?!?!...

Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Panda on January 10, 2008, 06:43:42 am
Sure, feel free to finish the sets on the smiley activity. :P
Then we will put them.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: im9today on January 10, 2008, 12:01:21 pm
@Sherman Gill: Ah, thank you sir.
@Ben2theEdge: Thank you, it means a lot to me, not only because it is coming from someone whose work I am a big fan of but also because I have gotten a lot of negative feedback about how I have lost the "cute"ness of the old design. Once people see how much harder the hard mode for this remake is maybe they will understand why he looks so much more determined than before. :D

Oh and recently he has acquired a pair of baby blue running shoes so I could add a bit to his animations. :)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Feron on January 10, 2008, 11:37:04 pm
9 hours til my Maths Mechanics exam...  :o
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Faktablad on January 11, 2008, 04:41:55 am
Be sure to get lots of sleep, young man.  Then eat a healthy, wholesome breakfast.   :-*
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Zenobia on January 11, 2008, 05:33:30 pm
To the previous page: you can't be homeschooled in the Netherlands. How unfair is that.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: crab2selout.png on January 12, 2008, 06:19:00 am
Germany either, I hear
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Turbo on January 12, 2008, 06:58:21 pm
This is looking good:
http://vampiria.meeka.net/forum/index.php?topic=4.0
It's a freeware castlevania remake-ish, with a blend of pixel-art, regular cg and some post processing effects, apparently. It's mostly cg, but has pixel-art attention to it.
There's a video at the forum with the post processing in effect.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: mattness on January 12, 2008, 07:44:55 pm
This is looking good:
http://vampiria.meeka.net/forum/index.php?topic=4.0
It's a freeware castlevania remake-ish, with a blend of pixel-art, regular cg and some post processing effects, apparently. It's mostly cg, but has pixel-art attention to it.
There's a video at the forum with the post processing in effect.

wow. by the video, it looks veeery cool.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on January 13, 2008, 01:16:50 am
anyone ever play story of thor or "beyond oasis" (as it was called in some places) on the sega genesis?
I downloaded it on my Wii and it's a lot of fun, sorta like zelda gameplay meets beat'em-up, and the graphics are pretty too
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/17959.html

Virtual console is probably my favourite part of the wii :)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: elise on January 13, 2008, 01:57:04 am
Stupid vista. I had to get a new pc and my old photoshop is too ancient to use on this computer. I have to find something (better than plain ol' paint) that will work on Vista. Now to go do some research.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on January 13, 2008, 02:28:31 am
run in compatibility mode for windows 2000 OR just download IDraw3/buy promotion
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: JJ Naas on January 13, 2008, 09:33:24 am
Stupid vista. I had to get a new pc and my old photoshop is too ancient to use on this computer. I have to find something (better than plain ol' paint) that will work on Vista. Now to go do some research.

I've recently had to use PS CS3 on Vista.. CS3 is supposed to be lighter than CS2, right? Still, with 2 gigs of memory (and PS has been set to use a maximum amount of memory) it's nearly unusably slow and jaggy, especially when using brushes and Wacom... and it doesn't seem to make a difference whether I use pixel size brushes or high res brushes.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Opacus on January 13, 2008, 12:39:27 pm
Stupid vista. I had to get a new pc and my old photoshop is too ancient to use on this computer. I have to find something (better than plain ol' paint) that will work on Vista. Now to go do some research.

I've recently had to use PS CS3 on Vista.. CS3 is supposed to be lighter than CS2, right? Still, with 2 gigs of memory (and PS has been set to use a maximum amount of memory) it's nearly unusably slow and jaggy, especially when using brushes and Wacom... and it doesn't seem to make a difference whether I use pixel size brushes or high res brushes.

What kinda processor do you have?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: JJ Naas on January 13, 2008, 01:09:59 pm
What kinda processor do you have?

Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 2.67GHz... it's not actually my computer, mine's older and waiting for a new HD because the less than year old Seagate HD self-destructed, but I have to work on this atm.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on January 13, 2008, 01:17:17 pm
I watched a couple TAS's today, and ended up with this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9deFYi5hP0

took like 100 attempts and I still got hit right at the end :'(
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Terley on January 13, 2008, 02:04:53 pm
Taka thats wonderful.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on January 13, 2008, 02:15:45 pm
But how many times can you doublejump in the air actually?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on January 13, 2008, 02:21:13 pm
it currently works that if you have over 1000 points you can do a triple spin jump (as in three extra jumps in mid air)
it's kinda impossible to get through that level hitting nothing without 1000+ points, so I threw in 2000 points before I played  :P
(I tried with 0000 at first)


We have a much better, far more intuitive, and less compromising system planned though

and thanks :)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Ryona on January 13, 2008, 09:48:44 pm
oooh! That game looks fun! Did any of you guys make it? And where would I be able to find it to play it?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Feron on January 13, 2008, 11:20:01 pm
oooh! That game looks fun! Did any of you guys make it? And where would I be able to find it to play it?

I believe its takam's own creation. 

and yeah, takam when can we play a demo :) !
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on January 14, 2008, 12:04:16 am
yep, me and a friend have been working on it for like.. 18 months now :D

we should have a new demo ready soon, there are still some bugs to work out
you can see in that video there are a couple anims that don't transition correctly, and a few places where landing on the slopes stutters
hopefully soon, I'll be sure to let you guys know :)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on January 14, 2008, 04:06:10 am
due my mind is just totally flipping shit :

Quote
Hey Na.. or Neigh... or NAY. I'm not sure as what the correct version of that is.. I've never had to spell it before. Man, I just saw SUPERBAD again and I think I found your stunt double. Just ask me again later when I get back and I'll point it out and you'll be all "oh snap.." and I'll be all "rmmmahmmm" cause I'll be eating a sandwich.

this dude is a really good friend of mine and apparently can't hear the T at the end of my name! (Nate!)

And now that i think about it, it's not really there!  one of two consonants in my name is basically a glottal stop.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: willfaulds on January 14, 2008, 04:47:57 pm
anyone else addicted to Zelda:phantom hourglass multiplayer and fancy a game?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Opacus on January 14, 2008, 06:36:23 pm
Anyone here got a recommendation on a good art book? I'd like to have a good book for anatomy and volumes.
Helm said I'd find one to my liking, but I'm afraid I might buy a bad book since with my knowledge I think I'll fail at judging what books are good and which arent.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Jamie on January 14, 2008, 07:15:09 pm
anyone else addicted to Zelda:phantom hourglass multiplayer and fancy a game?

I wish i could! sadly i lack wifi  :n:

Take care of your electronics, man. That's terrible. :mean:

I do take care of my things, just the pen i think i started to think it was some normal wooden pencil and just threw it on the desk to put it down and such and i often dropped it (not on purpose) and it often rolled of the desk when i never put it in it's holder  :-\

It had lot's of use though i just wish i could of done more art with it  :yell:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on January 15, 2008, 12:55:52 am
Anyone here got a recommendation on a good art book? I'd like to have a good book for anatomy and volumes.
Helm said I'd find one to my liking, but I'm afraid I might buy a bad book since with my knowledge I think I'll fail at judging what books are good and which arent.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7264/manomanuj2.jpg - volumes first, then anatomy.  I wish i had learned this way >.<


downloaded a demo of Black and White 2 today and found it so much fun I actually purchased it used.  God it felt strange buying a game....

the most entertaining thing about it (and actually useful gameplay wise is the ability to pick up many objects of the same kind just by holding the mouse button.  Sure, you can build an army, plant a forest, force a migration in moments, but what i really enjoyed was this experiment:

(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7264/manomanuj2.jpg)

.......throwing hundreds of enemy dead from the battlefield into their home town.  This had very little effect on the population (aside from a few people stopping to cry) but it was just so delightfully EVIL.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Terley on January 15, 2008, 04:04:18 am
hey I just found out theres a type of stop-motion called pixilation whereas something is captured frame by frame as it's created. Tried searching Pixelation on youtube and those lazy bastards have all spelt it wrong and all im getting is stop motion crap. I bet people come here thinking, hold on this isn't a stop-motion forum, 'Rable Rable Rable!'  >:(
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Opacus on January 15, 2008, 06:17:28 am
Anyone here got a recommendation on a good art book? I'd like to have a good book for anatomy and volumes.
Helm said I'd find one to my liking, but I'm afraid I might buy a bad book since with my knowledge I think I'll fail at judging what books are good and which arent.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7264/manomanuj2.jpg - volumes first, then anatomy.  I wish i had learned this way >.<


downloaded a demo of Black and White 2 today and found it so much fun I actually purchased it used.  God it felt strange buying a game....

the most entertaining thing about it (and actually useful gameplay wise is the ability to pick up many objects of the same kind just by holding the mouse button.  Sure, you can build an army, plant a forest, force a migration in moments, but what i really enjoyed was this experiment:
[big image :C]

.......throwing hundreds of enemy dead from the battlefield into their home town.  This had very little effect on the population (aside from a few people stopping to cry) but it was just so delightfully EVIL.

The link seems to link to the same image you posted.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on January 15, 2008, 08:14:00 am
anyone else addicted to Zelda:phantom hourglass multiplayer and fancy a game?
Oh! I haven't tried multiplayer yet!
I'll play you, but sadly I won't have access to a wifi thingy until friday.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Feron on January 15, 2008, 04:25:29 pm
Any news of:  Pixelator v2.0 ?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on January 15, 2008, 07:38:21 pm
Shush!! My bones are still recovering from my last defeat of the first one!!
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Terley on January 15, 2008, 08:25:37 pm
totally offtopic but I suppose this is were it goes, has anyone had trouble registering with PJ forum? This goes to anyone who has recently, I've tried to on and off for a while and Im never sucessful. From my Uni flat it says im on an unsafe network probably considering its a secured internet line, and from anywhere else it tells me to fix my cookies or something similar, on any pc I use. I think they just don't want me there  :ouch: . I mean im on the gallery, are the two not linked? I want to post my progress for the challenges there and be able to critique people without having the disadvantage of not being able to post. It's not a whole great loss or anything, this place is great but it's bugging me not being open to be apart of PJ forum too.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on January 15, 2008, 08:25:49 pm
im still embarrassed that I was banned during last years signup period.

looks like BOB and i have some honor to restore!
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Opacus on January 15, 2008, 08:50:14 pm
im still embarrassed that I was banned during last years signup period.

looks like BOB and i have some honor to restore!

Hey, mate, your link to the art book is incorrect ;)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on January 15, 2008, 09:47:26 pm
totally offtopic but I suppose this is were it goes, has anyone had trouble registering with PJ forum?

Nope,  it signs me into the forums just fine. I'm fairly sure we don't hate you enough to not let you post in there as well, heh. To be honest, I've never had that problem. The closest, is it asking me to log in frequently when I keep switching between the gallery and the forum, but successful logins, none the less...
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Larwick on January 15, 2008, 10:55:47 pm
totally offtopic but I suppose this is were it goes, has anyone had trouble registering with PJ forum?

You shouldn't need to register i don't think... have you tried just logging in? I can't remember how it works though so i could be wrong, but it'd be worth trying. I'm just gunna go and make sure you're not banned or anything.

EDIT: Yeah you're already a member on the forum and have made 6 posts. You're not banned eitha.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Feron on January 15, 2008, 11:16:02 pm
Shush!! My bones are still recovering from my last defeat of the first one!!

Hopefully i'll get the chance to avenge myself against you next time!
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Terley on January 16, 2008, 06:01:14 am
Yea I remember being on it one time or other but wasn't atall active, im mostly likely doing something obviously wrong i'll keep trying and make sure I read everything properly.. When logging on didnt work I assumed something was wrong which is why i was trying to re-register, but the gallery and forum are obviously linked so no worries im sure Its down to my stupidity somewhere down the line.  :ouch: Thanks for the help Larwick.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Opacus on January 16, 2008, 05:32:48 pm
There's such a dazalling amount of anatomy books ._.

http://www.amazon.com/Atlas-Human-Anatomy-Artist-Galaxy/dp/0195030958
Is that any good? It's not expensive and the pages that I did see looked pretty good...(I think ._.)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Terley on January 18, 2008, 05:43:55 am
haha i've just noticed, by peoples avatars most people here look so friggin serious, does anyone have a avatar expressing anything more cheerful? I was going for a quirky looking face for mine but thinking about it I look like the sorta guy you'd hate to be trapped in an elevator with.. Updated it to emphasise the rage.

next avatar fad needs to involve smiling.

- I think Helm and B.O.B are on par for grumpy looking avatars.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Opacus on January 18, 2008, 06:25:57 am
haha i've just noticed, by peoples avatars most people here look so friggin serious, does anyone have a avatar expressing anything more cheerful? I was going for a quirky looking face for mine but thinking about it I look like the sorta guy you'd hate to be trapped in an elevator with.. Updated it to emphasise the rage.

next avatar fad needs to involve smiling.

- I think Helm and B.O.B are on par for grumpy looking avatars.
MY AVATAR IS UNICORN SEX
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Cow on January 18, 2008, 06:34:00 am
I decided to join in on the hatred :y:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on January 18, 2008, 02:02:36 pm
(http://i8.tinypic.com/6jet85t.jpg)
I'm officially looking forward to the HD remake more
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on January 18, 2008, 02:35:55 pm
can't the machine they're making this for deal with higher resolution textures?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Opacus on January 18, 2008, 04:52:27 pm
can't the machine they're making this for deal with higher resolution textures?

Probably PS3, and I'm sure that can handle bigger textures.
Screenshots look lame and dissapointing :(
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Feron on January 18, 2008, 11:00:22 pm
I need ideas for a new avatar, if u have any id be very grateful...
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on January 18, 2008, 11:26:10 pm
I just don't get the lack of facial muscles.  bros look botoxed
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: elise on January 19, 2008, 02:47:10 am
haha i've just noticed, by peoples avatars most people here look so friggin serious, does anyone have a avatar expressing anything more cheerful?
I think mine is cheerful... ;) maybe not the best looking but it makes me chuckle.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Malor on January 20, 2008, 04:22:35 pm
I am not entirely sure what My avatar shows.. I should hope either humor.. or semi-cheer.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on January 20, 2008, 04:25:36 pm
Mines pretty neutral I think, you can take it in a few directions
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on January 20, 2008, 05:08:10 pm
I like to think of Adarias's avatar as giving the same expression as the Dramatic Prairie Dog (http://youtube.com/watch?v=y8Kyi0WNg40&feature=related) (or whatever the hell it is)

Bum bum buuuuummmmm! hah ha...
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Pan on January 20, 2008, 06:33:11 pm
I'd say mines neutral too.  I just did it a couple of days ago. 

(I love this smiley  :lala:)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Zolthorg on January 20, 2008, 11:40:52 pm
i think i need a new one
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on January 21, 2008, 12:04:16 am
Zolthorg, your avatar makes me think of what a demon's dick would probably look like, and that's.. well... awesome and terrible, at the same time :-\.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Zolthorg on January 21, 2008, 03:00:43 am
it's actually a slightly fixed up snake doodle
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/zolthorg/snakedoodle.png)
(snake doodle #1 of 2)

(tileable)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/zolthorg/tesselol-1.png)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/zolthorg/tesselol-1.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/zolthorg/tesselol-1.png)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/zolthorg/tesselol-1.png)

it's a common motif in my doodles
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/zolthorg/snake.png)
(snake doodle #2 of 2)


i have a whole folder of ms paint black and white absent minded doodles
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on January 22, 2008, 02:17:14 pm
http://labs.jphantom.com/wpm/

(http://i31.tinypic.com/z0gn5.png)
 :)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on January 22, 2008, 11:17:25 pm
i only got 69.7 because i vucked up "can" (messed the "C" in favor of "C ")
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Faktablad on January 23, 2008, 12:19:58 am
I got 80 something.

OMG, Heath Ledger's dead!
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Xion on January 23, 2008, 12:30:53 am
OMG, Heath Ledger's dead!
:( :( :'( :n:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Malor on January 23, 2008, 01:17:17 am
hmm I am sitting on a nice 65. something.... Decent I suppose.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Feron on January 23, 2008, 01:19:13 am
OMG, Heath Ledger's dead!

just googled it.. What a tradgedy.  I still hope they release the new batman though...

 :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on January 23, 2008, 02:00:58 am
It's in post production, I doubt they need him anymore.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Doppleganger on January 23, 2008, 07:44:00 am
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/Timpac/Accomplishments/typing_speed.png)

There's no way I can type without making a mistake apparently. I actually averaged around 80 or so but this one was more impressive. XD
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: junkboy on January 23, 2008, 01:56:05 pm
(http://i28.tinypic.com/124ao7d.png)

Suck it Down!
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: leroy on January 23, 2008, 04:06:09 pm
<labs.jphantom.com>

Wow! Your typing speed (with 3 mistakes) is:

91.98 wpm
383.64 cpm

 :'(

Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Doppleganger on January 23, 2008, 05:07:23 pm
(http://i28.tinypic.com/124ao7d.png)

Suck it Down!

We've got ourselves a winner! I love how your avatar really embodies the attitude in your post.  :P
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Feron on January 23, 2008, 05:07:48 pm
Suck it Down!

why dont you!  :lol:

(http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7380/picture5pn9.png)

Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: junkboy on January 23, 2008, 06:15:38 pm
By Odin's ravens! How is that even possible?! DVORAK?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Jamie on January 23, 2008, 06:29:23 pm
anyone else addicted to Zelda:phantom hourglass multiplayer and fancy a game?

I wish i could! sadly i lack wifi  :n:

Scratch that, just got a wireless router today and got it all set up also recently got a sony VAIO laptop so wont be needing that 'ol cracked wacom  :lol:

New advance wars:days of ruin is fun, anyone else have it?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: crab2selout.png on January 23, 2008, 06:46:05 pm
I don't mean to brag...

(http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/7687/speelingsh5.jpg)



I can't imagine typing as fast as some of your guys. Is it the caffeine? Do I need to drink more coke?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Feron on January 23, 2008, 07:03:19 pm
By Odin's ravens! How is that even possible?! DVORAK?

QWERTY my friend.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Akira on January 24, 2008, 02:27:43 am
I think I've figured out Feron's method:
(http://i26.tinypic.com/ncb5hx.jpg)
840 characters per minute is 14 per second...
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on January 24, 2008, 02:59:19 am
(http://xs223.xs.to/xs223/08044/heh806.jpg)

Or didn't you know i was god?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: AdamAtomic on January 24, 2008, 03:58:18 am
haha - i haven't tried it, but I'm going to assume the "trick" is copy-paste? :P
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Opacus on January 24, 2008, 10:22:04 am
haha - i haven't tried it, but I'm going to assume the "trick" is copy-paste? :P
Nah, the text is an image :)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Feron on January 24, 2008, 11:51:22 am
haha - i haven't tried it, but I'm going to assume the "trick" is copy-paste? :P

yeah, i pre-wrote most of the paragraph, kept refreshing until i got a close match, then pasted it and deleted the bits that werent in it.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on January 24, 2008, 01:27:56 pm
opacus, im not too fond of your sig, being that since 9th grade my nickname has been unicorn (rainbow sunshine)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Feron on January 24, 2008, 03:56:02 pm
since 9th grade my nickname has been unicorn (rainbow sunshine)

*waits for a really GAY story as to why this is*
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Opacus on January 24, 2008, 05:44:19 pm
opacus, im not too fond of your sig, being that since 9th grade my nickname has been unicorn (rainbow sunshine)

...
Well I...
I....
...
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on January 24, 2008, 09:35:34 pm
lol @ the new one
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Pan on January 25, 2008, 02:09:37 am
I don't think theres gonna be a pixelator...   ???
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Malor on January 25, 2008, 02:15:01 am
Settle down young one.. tis' only January, there are eleven months in a year yet.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Pan on January 25, 2008, 02:20:52 am
Lol  "I want it now now now."   :crazy:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Faktablad on January 26, 2008, 02:20:10 am
That's what she said.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Opacus on January 26, 2008, 04:08:23 pm
That's what Adarias said.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on January 26, 2008, 06:13:29 pm
That's what Adarias said.

ok it was sorta funny once
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Opacus on January 26, 2008, 08:47:06 pm
That's what Adarias said.

ok it was sorta funny once

I'm taking this even further then Helm + Goat.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on January 26, 2008, 09:46:33 pm
No you don't. Helm started the goat thing himself afaik and is not offended by it. Adarias seems to not find it funny anymore, so I would say you rather let it rest, unless you want a strike that is.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on January 27, 2008, 09:23:32 am
I almost forgot how awesome V for Vendetta is
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Faktablad on January 27, 2008, 03:27:37 pm
It appears the iso collab has been "StumbledUpon".
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on January 27, 2008, 06:11:21 pm
I almost forgot how awesome V for Vendetta is
I sure hopes you're talking about the comic, cuz' god, do I hate the ending of that movie.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Opacus on January 27, 2008, 07:41:53 pm
No you don't. Helm started the goat thing himself afaik and is not offended by it. Adarias seems to not find it funny anymore, so I would say you rather let it rest, unless you want a strike that is.
Yes, I know.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Malor on January 27, 2008, 11:16:09 pm
Right.. so what is the great appeal of a moleskine? I am just wondering if it's just people like them simply because they are moleskines, or are they actually worth the cost?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Jamie on January 27, 2008, 11:20:54 pm
Just finished a leopard & vista dual boot on laptop, leopard is way way cool  :y:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on January 28, 2008, 01:28:59 am
Right.. so what is the great appeal of a moleskine? I am just wondering if it's just people like them simply because they are moleskines, or are they actually worth the cost?

durable, good size, attractive, and one of the only toned two-ply sketchpads around.  besides, it's like $7.50 at a ripoff store (barenes & nobles), mine was $5.49 at Blick.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Malor on January 28, 2008, 02:22:58 am
ah. Well in that case, I'll go ahead and buy one. Seeing as I need a new sketch book anyways.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on January 28, 2008, 02:57:22 am
ah. Well in that case, I'll go ahead and buy one. Seeing as I need a new sketch book anyways.

forgot to metnion don't get the big ones as there's little enough point in it - get the pocket sized.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Malor on January 28, 2008, 03:03:41 am
yes, I assumed as much. Partially considering the big ones seem to be nearly three times your estimated price.  :P
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Faktablad on January 28, 2008, 03:43:58 am
Also another good thing is little-to-no bleed-through.  :y:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on January 28, 2008, 04:11:37 am
depends what you are using. moleskine paper is not good for markers.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on January 28, 2008, 05:25:37 am
not good for markers at all!  yet wonderful for surface media like aquarelle which will not even darken the following side.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: brianskywalker on January 28, 2008, 08:23:50 am
Oooh. I like to use vellum and sharpies! You can make really clean looking stuff with those.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on January 28, 2008, 09:57:30 am
http://www.scientology.org/ received over three million simultaneous dos attacks today, and it will most likely never come back  :hehe:

edit-
 >:(
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: am_pm on January 28, 2008, 11:56:06 am
The site looks up to me.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on January 28, 2008, 01:09:32 pm
.TakaM, how naive are you? Anonymous might be lots of people and strong in what they do, but scientology is no small enemy in any case.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on January 28, 2008, 01:15:18 pm
Yes I know, but I do find that kinda difficult to answer.
I want them to prevail, it'd be great if everything did go according to their plan, but the realist in me says nothing will happen, hard to discern my real expectations.

but hey, it was down for a while, and I'm definitely expecting it to go down again
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Faktablad on January 28, 2008, 04:55:35 pm
Sorry for being naive, but what exactly is the problem everyone has with Scientology?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on January 28, 2008, 05:15:00 pm
Well it's even worse than a regular religion that just wants your money because it's a cult. It also wants your soul.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: fil_razorback on January 28, 2008, 08:39:13 pm
Religion ? I've always been told it was a sect.
At least, that's what it is called in France.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: JJ Naas on January 28, 2008, 08:59:33 pm
Scientology claims to heal people's souls by making them take expensive courses in which the patients are made to re-live the traumatic events of their life that have caused them to become unstable ( and thus dispelling the evil alien spirits in their soul but I'm not evem gonna go into that ). There may be something to that or not,  but that's not the problem.

The problem is making them pay craploads of money for those dianetic sessions and IF they decide to leave the cult, all the personal information about the most traumatic events of their lives that they have revealed during the sessions will be used to blackmail them to make them come back or shut up about what they've learned about the inner workings of scientology.

It's not a religion, or at least their religious doctrines are so laughable that they are.. laughable. I don't think dianetics is a proven method for curing anything in the first place. They certainly are not open for independent scientific testing of dianetics or open discussions about it. Nevertheless, one person whose mental stability dianetics didn't seem to be able to restore was the one of the whole cult's founder, Ron Hubbard, who died as a freaked-out hermit.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Pan on January 28, 2008, 09:04:01 pm
I ordered a moleskine, but it's on back order.   :mean:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on January 29, 2008, 01:22:54 am
Religion ? I've always been told it was a sect.
At least, that's what it is called in France.
that reminds me, can anyone tell me the difference(s) between a religion, a sect, and a cult?
Back in highschool I couldn't find any real differences, just what each one says about the others
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on January 29, 2008, 02:03:07 am
Yes. A religion is a sect that is recogised as a religion by the goverment where you're at. Either want your money. And a cult is an organisation that wants both your money and your soul.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on January 29, 2008, 02:28:11 am
another working definition is that a religion is a large, recognized group of people who admit spiritual similarity, while a sect is a smaller, more rigidly defined group.  Presbyterianism is a sect within protestant christianity, usually referend to as a branch (which has a better connotation), but other small religious groups not not belong to a larger religion.  Some other smaller groups, such as mormons and other latterday-saints churches, are so different from their parent faith (christianity) that they are often referred to as sects rather than branches of the christian faith.

As far as money is concerned, it depends on where you go.  Most religious organizations (community churches) are meant to be self-supporting, and not demanding, and many ofther programs such as AA and other programs follow the collection plate method.  Most religions and groups are concerned with humility and the rejection of excess, and the church as well as support groups provides many people with what they see as a trustworthy cause to give their excess to.  You are free to attend and give as you please.

Cults on the other hand often demand participation and giving.  Think of a cult as boy scouts, a labor union, soviet russia, and british colonial policies rolled into one big stinking pile.

PS i heard that scientology and latterday-saints churches was banned in france; i know it is at least banned in morocco
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on January 29, 2008, 03:01:34 am
http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=e10543891fd2e7277d15
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: sharprm on January 29, 2008, 04:08:24 am
http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=e10543891fd2e7277d15

This is a story about a fictitious boy named Josh who wrote a letter to Zach about his fictitious friend Jesus …

I watch a Christian channel when drawing because I like having the TV on and there is no ads (it beats hearing about f*cking ab machines all day). One time there was a man who claimed to have actually been to hell (god showed it to him). He wrote a book called ’23 minutes in hell’ (because that’s how long he was there for) and talked about it with the tv priests who loved the book.

If you google quotes and cult:

"The only difference between a cult and a religion is the amount of real estate they own”
Frank Zappa quotes (American Composer, Guitarist, Satirist and Song Writer, 1940-1993)
 
What Ron Hubbard, founder of Scientology, openly said:

"You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion"

(http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Scientology)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: JonathanOfDrain on January 29, 2008, 05:39:33 am
I ordered a moleskine, but it's on back order.   :mean:
Back order? Are they really that popular? My college book store was over stocked with them when I worked there so I took a few. I also got a few of the crummy thin paper ones. Avoid them.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on January 29, 2008, 06:33:15 am
"The only difference between a cult and a religion is the amount of real estate they own”
Frank Zappa quotes (American Composer, Guitarist, Satirist and Song Writer, 1940-1993)

as much as I like frank zappa, I find it impossible to respect people who use a very limited, usually childhood understanding of church as an excuse to insult all forms of faith.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on January 29, 2008, 10:39:07 am
I'm pretty sure Frank Zappa isn't the kind of person where whether you respect them or not makes any difference, and there's no reason to try to present his qualifications until you do. Kinda like Salvadore Dali.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: sharprm on January 29, 2008, 10:49:48 am
"The only difference between a cult and a religion is the amount of real estate they own?
Frank Zappa quotes (American Composer, Guitarist, Satirist and Song Writer, 1940-1993)

as much as I like frank zappa, I find it impossible to respect people who use a very limited, usually childhood understanding of church as an excuse to insult all forms of faith.

What else did Frank Zappa say on religion? That quote on its own is pretty eloquent and not at all insulting. My understanding cults are persecuted by Governments whereas religions are not. But the difference between the two are not so obvious: both will have a messiah figure, promises of future wealth, sacrifices etc. In one documentary concerning early Christianity in Britain (Christians were persecuted by the Romans) one historian said a cult could be considered a religion after it has more than 100 people.

Scientology got itself classified as a religion because Governments (eg. Victorian, Australia) are only able to crack down on cults. 
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Post by: JJ Naas on January 29, 2008, 11:46:47 am
The Dumb All Over / Heavenly Bank Account (http://www.metrolyrics.com/dumb-all-over-lyrics-frank-zappa.html) combo pretty much sums up Zappa's view on religion. I don't agree with many of his views but his comments about TV Evangelists were spot on. "There's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over." The music itself aside, I don't think Zappa's greatest value is in any single cherry picked thoughts of his, but in his refusal to respect anything or take anything seriously.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on January 29, 2008, 12:10:59 pm
I also got a few of the crummy thin paper ones. Avoid them.

Guess, what. The "crummy thin paper ones" are not sketch but notebooks :P
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on January 29, 2008, 02:17:33 pm
http://www.smwcentral.net/?p=showhack&id=466
pretty nice graphics for a romhack, only thing lacking is mario's run animation, but since he's restricted to 3 frames (if I recall correctly) I guess it'll do.
anyone ever seen a good 3 frame run cycle?

maybe we should have a challenge?

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...man I was a dick in that topic :-[
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: kingkumquat on January 29, 2008, 03:51:05 pm
Not quite, as mentioned before, it was submitted to StumbleUpon (http://www.stumbleupon.com/url/www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php%3Ftopic=1101.0).

I was quite (pleasantly) surprised to find it there.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: robalan on February 01, 2008, 05:36:16 am
Hey guys.  I somehow managed to wander away from Pixelation for several months; I think school happened >_<  Glad to see you're all still here, unlike last time I was gone for more than a couple weeks.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on February 01, 2008, 06:59:31 am
Welcome back Robalan!  :)

*puts knife to throat* Now where the F*** is PKmays!!!
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Opacus on February 01, 2008, 11:51:23 am
Welcome back Robalan!  :)

*puts knife to throat* Now where the F*** is PKmays!!!

Yeah he just kinda disapeared halfway at Pixelator :\

By the way TakaM: Your avatar is failing.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: robalan on February 01, 2008, 04:01:26 pm
*Throws hands up* I don't know!  I swear!  I was asking the same thing last time I was here!  *Looks around frantically* Why don't you ask one of the mods?  They might know better!
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: willfaulds on February 02, 2008, 08:59:08 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd3-eiid-Uw !
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Faktablad on February 02, 2008, 09:41:03 pm
Oh man, I can see some trippy stuff arising from that technology.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Xion on February 02, 2008, 10:30:42 pm
I have no idea how, but I knew exactly what that Youtube vid was before I clicked it. Weird.
Saw that on attack of the Show a while ago. Pretty really friggin awesome.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Dusty on February 03, 2008, 05:27:04 am
Wow, I could imagine the possibilities. I would love to see Wii games take advantage of this. Too bad it only works for one person at a time.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on February 03, 2008, 04:36:01 pm
Wow, I could imagine the possibilities. I would love to see Wii games take advantage of this. Too bad it only works for one person at a time.

i'm sure for multiplayer they could rig it up to divide between two screens same as all multiplayer.  but yeah for two people at a time they either need separate screens of completely different physics.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Turbo on February 03, 2008, 05:12:08 pm
Oh wow, 5 dollars for a notepad. Do you know how many different things you can do with five dollars? That's five hundred cents, man. That'l buy you a lot of paper, lots of notepads.

...i don't get it.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on February 03, 2008, 05:30:47 pm
Oh wow, 5 dollars for a notepad. Do you know how many different things you can do with five dollars? That's five hundred cents, man. That'l buy you a lot of paper, lots of notepads.

...i don't get it.

well first it's a sketchbook (not notes, not pad), if that helps it make sense - the money is for the quality of the paper, the binding, and the durability.  It's hardcover, so it will keep things safe.  It's toned, which is always a plus, and takes ink, watercolor, and gauche without buckling.  Do i use computer paper to sketch?  All the time.  Do i own a moleskine? of course.  In fact, i own three, two of which have ever face filled and one is about halfway through.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Turbo on February 03, 2008, 06:05:19 pm
That's nice and all purpose. But wouldn't a binder and paper bought separately, capable of handling all those mediums, be cheaper and as useful? Plus, reusability (both of the cover and of the paper used inside).

It's becoming a trend with some people i know, which tend to be people who buy things to be trendy, not necessarily because they really need them. Like the guy who dislikes games but just bought a state of the art graphics card (tested it for 5 minutes with one of the latest Tomb Raiders, and then turned it off), or the one that bought one of those digital cameras with exchageable lenses because "he wants to be an artist" (last month he was going to learn dj'ing, and the month prior he was going to do an oil painting of a white square on black background. Of course none of those came to be).

But if it's something that really fulfills one's needs, i'd say the money's completely justifiable! (edit) all i'm advocating is intelligent buying.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on February 03, 2008, 08:07:44 pm
That's nice and all purpose. But wouldn't a binder and paper bought separately, capable of handling all those mediums, be cheaper and as useful? Plus, reusability (both of the cover and of the paper used inside).

yeah but the biggest trouble with loose papers is implied - they are easily lost.  the other thing is that a binder has rings, which are a pain (for me):

(http://blog.marsdencartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/marsden-moleskine2.jpg)

now that's smooth - comfy.

the pocket size also does it for me.  not many good sketchpads come that size, and the truth of the matter is that if you got 2-ply toned smooth paper, you'ld need i'd wager 4 A0 sheets of it, which would cost oddly enough about $5 even at a good cheap shop, so nope - buying paper separately is a losing bet, and then to have a store bind book-style in leather would cost the consumer way more than it would to just buy the processed book.  I know, it's fueling big business and middle-men, but they get it a hell of a lot cheaper than I can, and those savings pass on to me... :D

the one that bought one of those digital cameras with exchageable lenses because "he wants to be an artist"
A digital SLR is an important investment for the would-be photographer, but no, anyone else should stick to a power-shot.  I'm considering a good digital camera (th d40x, to be specific) for the sake not only of my photography electives but also of preserving my traditional works, because even say a thousand dollars is worth it in the long run, provided that RAW format doesn't go out of style in the next 15-20 years.  A decent film camera is also a good investment because they are cheap are far superior to digitals of twice the price.  Of course if it never gets used it's a stupid waste of money regardless.

But if it's something that really fulfills one's needs, i'd say the money's completely justifiable! (edit) all i'm advocating is intelligent buying.
so we're on the same page :P
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Turbo on February 04, 2008, 12:49:15 am
Ok, i can see how those characteristics can be appealing. I just find paying for such features as brand name and guarantee (for a... sketchbook!) unnecessary (silly). I'll stick with 50 cents crappy notepads :)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on February 04, 2008, 01:26:54 am
I just find paying for such features as brand name and guarantee (for a... sketchbook!) unnecessary (silly).

Heh, brand name isn't why i or any serious artist uses them - tell me a cheaper sketchbook that's half as good and i'll buy it before you can blink.

I'll stick with 50 cents crappy notepads

We must live in different towns, around here 50c wouldn't get you anything.  Cheapest shit is at least $1.29 at duane reade and you can practically see through the pages.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: brianskywalker on February 04, 2008, 01:36:17 am
Around here you can get a 75 sheet RULED notepad for $1. But it's sucks for art, it's like see threw and the lines really take a lot away from it. The dollar store also sells sketchbooks for about $2.50, but it's basically just white construction paper, so that really doesn't help much at all either. I tend to use BIGGIE sketch pads, because it still isn't uber expensive. I'm going to try moleskin, though. Hopefully the pages don't instantly fall out like BIGGIE ones do, that would suck.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: JJ Naas on February 04, 2008, 10:20:15 am
Skething in a notepad is really difficult for me.. because I know that someone's gonna want to browse it anyway, so the sketches can't be totally crap and random and unpolished.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on February 04, 2008, 11:03:51 am
I used to have trouble with people browsing my sketches too. Then I decided not to care and it helped.

You should keep in mind that for non-artists whatever you draw that is moderately okay will seem super-amazing to them. And for artists they are well aware of the 'oh noooo don't look at my sketcheeeeeeeees' effect and will sympathise.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Terley on February 04, 2008, 12:43:08 pm
There's always someone who can't begin to sympathise and assumes the crap is a reflection on your skill as an artist, they usually point out obvious flaws and look down their noses as if they have any valid oppinions on your art. My brother's like that, he see's what Im capable of and looks at my doodles as if to say 'come on, you can do better than that..'

I agree not caring helps, but theres always a part of you that wants to be an excellent draftsman straight off the mark.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Ben2theEdge on February 04, 2008, 02:45:38 pm
I agree not caring helps, but theres always a part of you that wants to be an excellent draftsman straight off the mark.

This is why I like to sketch with pencils and not pens ;)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Lawrence on February 04, 2008, 03:22:56 pm
If you're so worried, you could sketch with invisible ink under a UV lamp. Hehe :p
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on February 04, 2008, 08:33:41 pm
No Country For Old Men was yummy.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: JonathanOfDrain on February 04, 2008, 09:49:17 pm
I just bought a moleskine a week ago for $3! I was psyched because I always saw them at bookstores for like $12. It's nice and fits in my back pockets. There's a crummy paper covered three pack for $3 so I bought that with lines. It's the best agenda I've ever had, I actually right write things down and it's always in my back pocket. :D Thanks Moleskine
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on February 07, 2008, 03:17:59 am
What ever happen to the whole Mockup Frenzy thing?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on February 07, 2008, 03:49:29 am
What ever happen to the whole Mockup Frenzy thing?
Adam's busy lately! He said he'd start it back up like... I can't remember what he said but I think it was sometime soon.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on February 07, 2008, 05:18:12 am
i love internet classics http://classics.mit.edu/Sophocles/antigone.html
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on February 10, 2008, 08:36:26 am
10th of feb is off to a pretty good start:
(http://i27.tinypic.com/24gvmoi.jpg)
(http://i31.tinypic.com/30ivvvr.gif)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on February 10, 2008, 08:13:05 pm
V for what now?  ???
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: AlienQuark on February 11, 2008, 12:32:54 am
There's always someone who can't begin to sympathise and assumes the crap is a reflection on your skill as an artist, they usually point out obvious flaws and look down their noses as if they have any valid oppinions on your art.

I call those people twats. And I'm not talking about the snooty artists who are really good and look down their nose at you, but the people with no artistic merit. That I can't stand.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: leel on February 11, 2008, 01:51:04 am
10th of feb is off to a pretty good start

I drove by the local raid and honked a bit, but it was so cold and miserable outside.  I feel awful now, I should've gone back and brought the guys some food and hot drinks, they were all huddled together...   I'll definitely do that next month :D
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on February 11, 2008, 07:00:10 am
I drove by the local raid and honked a bit, but it was so cold and miserable outside.  I feel awful now, I should've gone back and brought the guys some food and hot drinks, they were all huddled together...   I'll definitely do that next month :D

Meh, I liked heartless Leel, rather than kind and forgiving Leel. Suits your cold Ukranian heart...*shudders*
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Terley on February 11, 2008, 01:58:01 pm
Does anyone here have a myspace, if you do have you ever come across these happiness tests? It's mindblowingly stupid, and people come out thinking, yes.. Im 18% happy according to this test... As if its an accurate reading of how happy you are, giving people the idea that material things and what people expect you to have brings happiness, have a look at this one;

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[ ] You have a boyfriend/girlfriend.
[] You have your own laptop/computer
[] You own a cell phone.
[] You have an ipod/ mp3 player
[] Your parents are still together
[] You have a best friend
[] There is a swimming pool in your backyard

T 0 T A L:

[] You dress how you want to.
[] hang out with friends more than once a week
[] There is a computer/ laptop in your room
[] You have never been beaten up.
[] you NEVER cry more than twice a month.
[] You are allowed to listen to the music you want to.
[] Your room is big enough for you.

T 0 T A L:

[] You have over 50 friends on myspace
[] You have pictures on myspace.
[] your parents let you have a myspace-
[] You get allowance
[] You collect something normal
[] You look forward to going to work
[] You don’t wish you were someone else.
[] You do a sport.
[] You do something after school

T 0 T A L:

[] You own a car.
[] You usually don’t fight with your mom
[] You are happy with your appearance
[] You have never gotten a failing grade on your report card
[] You have friends

T 0 T A L:

[] you know what’s going on in the world.
[] You care about many people.
[] You know more than one language.
[] You have a screen name.
[] You own/owned a pet.
[] You know the words to more than 5 songs.
[] You don’t have many enemies
[] You are a generally nice person.

T 0 T A L:

multiply total by 3

your score: =
put number as title ‘I’m _% happy

Apparently im 84% Happy.. I would of thought;

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“We tend to forget that happiness doesn't come as a result of getting something we don't have, but rather of recognizing and appreciating what we do have.”
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on February 11, 2008, 02:46:34 pm
I don't think you should take that very seriously. In fact if you don't some sequences of questions are downright hilarious

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You have never been beaten up.
You NEVER cry more than twice a month.

NEVER!!

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You have over 50 friends on myspace
You have pictures on myspace.
Your parents let you have a myspace-

If this was written a bit better it would be something the Onion would have come up with.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Terley on February 11, 2008, 04:24:32 pm
Yeah Its really hard to take it seriously, especially when posting bulletins with their answers they usually come across as that much more depressed by failing. Most people just don't know what they have, there are people out there who have nothing and wouldn't even consider that more friends on myspace would effect their happiness.

On a lighter note, they did an experiment to see what happens to spiders when they're given drugs. Awesome.  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHzdsFiBbFc
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: leel on February 11, 2008, 07:59:46 pm
Meh, I liked heartless Leel, rather than kind and forgiving Leel. Suits your cold Ukranian heart...*shudders*
What are you on about?  I've always been kind and forgiving!  But I can get my whip out of storage, if that's what you're into  ;)


I remember taking that test a year or so ago.    36% happy right now, geez.  Wait though - I had a pet, but someone took her and then lost her and she no doubt is dead by now.. how is that a point for happiness?  D:   Thank goodness I have a cell phone and a screen name to get me through these hard times.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on February 11, 2008, 08:17:19 pm
All my living relatives are dead.....my girlfriend cheats on me.....I got a mean heroine addiction.....have lung cancer.....I'm blind.....I lost my job.......I'm being framed for a murder, and my jail sentence begins this sunday....but hey, it's all good! 98% happy ;) :y:--mom lets me have a myspace.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on February 12, 2008, 04:57:49 am
i found out about a great artist today for the first time, Jean-Leon Gerome.  apparently famous but i'd never heard of.  wonderful stuff that you should look up if you're not familiar.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Indigo on February 12, 2008, 05:48:19 am
Yeah Its really hard to take it seriously, especially when posting bulletins with their answers they usually come across as that much more depressed by failing. Most people just don't know what they have, there are people out there who have nothing and wouldn't even consider that more friends on myspace would effect their happiness.

On a lighter note, they did an experiment to see what happens to spiders when they're given drugs. Awesome.  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHzdsFiBbFc

whoa, I truly didn't see that comming.  Awesome :)

as for taking things like myspace tests seriously, you'd be surprised.  Some people do.  Yesterday on the subway I overheard a woman rant on about her business plans to buy homes or whatnot, only to add "but my horoscope said I shouldn't take financial risks today, so I wont"

I literally laughed out loud, and she looked quite angry :P
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: huZba on February 12, 2008, 08:05:44 am
i found out about a great artist today for the first time, Jean-Leon Gerome.  apparently famous but i'd never heard of.  wonderful stuff that you should look up if you're not familiar.

 :n:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on February 12, 2008, 12:59:03 pm
i found out about a great artist today for the first time, Jean-Leon Gerome.  apparently famous but i'd never heard of.  wonderful stuff that you should look up if you're not familiar.

 :n:

not a fan?  there is the blatant objectification of woman, but he's discussing it in a historical context and is still more progressive than many of his peers.  At least he elevates them while removing their sense of will :/

John Berger would tear him to bits im sure, but john berger is also a writer who irks me for his insistence upon establishing context only as a subordinate element while making broad condemnations of the world at large (i realize that's what im doing here, but i'm not writing a televsion or book series so I'm going to pull the whole "we hold these truths to be self evident" escape.)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ter-o on February 12, 2008, 01:13:47 pm

:n:


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Jean-Leon_Gerome_Pollice_Verso.jpg/800px-Jean-Leon_Gerome_Pollice_Verso.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: huZba on February 12, 2008, 04:24:19 pm
 :y:  ;D

Hehe, yeah Gerome's paintings are stunning.
As for the objectification part, that's fine, i think objectifying whatever is fine as long as it's not accompanied with a bunch of weird ideologies or ill intent.
I couldn't find more than a handful of might-be-controversial paintings out of ~150, so i guess it would be safe to assume he wasn't obessed about making women plain objects... or maybe he was, but repressed his vile intentions.... or maybe he was a fine chap and did it just fot the heck of it. It's hard to tell while he's not around :P

Loads of Gerome's paintings and sculptures  -> http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/art.asp?aid=9&page=1
http://www.artrenewal.org is a great resource for anyone interested in art history. Most pictures have high-res downloads to boot.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on February 12, 2008, 05:30:47 pm
You either are a bit confused as to what objectification is or you're making a very studied distinction, because 99% of the time objectification of women an ideological action in itself, it does not usually occur without a method of thinking to support it. I guess you could argue that someone draws girls being beaten and raped cuz 'he likes it!!!' and leave it at that but that's just begging the question.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: huZba on February 12, 2008, 06:15:26 pm
I don't go gunz plazing nuts from seeing Geromes hugely controversial paintings is more what i'm trying to say. He wasn't pushing it with making it just on a few occasions and i doubt many people who paint vile things enjoy doing vile things. Objectifying women, or men, doesn't really count as weird ideology i guess, as long as it's balanced and for the sake of art and entertainment.

I tried making a funnay with calling Gerome a possibly vile man, but failed, obviously.

When i think about it, if there really was someone who painted extreme violence cause they enjoyed doing it so much, it would be quite fascinating, though it's more likely that the artist was just fascinated about it himself so he painted it.

I might be confused about what you're getting at, but would anyone ever paint someone being beaten and raped if they didn't like something attached to the thought? Or someone could find it completely repulsive but painted it anyway cause it causes interesting emotions. All for the sake of entertainment of course.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on February 12, 2008, 09:26:45 pm
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Objectifying women, or men, doesn't really count as weird ideology i guess, as long as it's balanced and for the sake of art and entertainment.

That's a very strange point of view for me. Not least because of the grouping of art and entertainment in the same area. I personally find art and entertainment only superficially coexist and the more great a piece of art it is, the less comfortable it makes me feel. Which isn't to say that being uncomfortable means I feel bad, just in a displaced state of mind from my normal. Entertainment on the other hand usually enforces my present state of mind and generally gently caresses my sensibilities. One of the two is trying to sell itself to me, the other not. Can we spot which is which?

As for people that paint atrocity for reasons far removed from making a positively-aligned ideological stand, you should consider that they paint them to make a negatively-aligned one. Paint something horrible so people can remember what horrible means and such. This is actually a very widespread thing in art!
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on February 13, 2008, 01:19:10 am
Honesty should determine the significance of a work of art more than controversy or persuasive intent.
Sure, one could abuse art and use it's power for persuasive means--that's advertising, and okay, yeah, sure, that's arguably art.  But good art, art with lasting ability is merely a reflection--all positive or negative intentions aside.
Art is really just a mirror (whether the artist is conscious of it or not.)  All the artist is doing is reflecting--if people hate the reflection, it's their own ignorance.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: sharprm on February 13, 2008, 01:38:32 am
Paint something horrible so people can remember what horrible means and such. This is actually a very widespread thing in art!

I agree, I found all the 'modern art' in the museum I went to to be horrible. Not sure if thats what you meant. I like this article, gist is modern art is crap and you've all been conned at uni.

http://www.artrenewal.org/articles/Philosophy/philosophy1.asp (http://www.artrenewal.org/articles/Philosophy/philosophy1.asp)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on February 13, 2008, 01:59:55 am
I agree, I found all the 'modern art' in the museum I went to to be horrible.

there's a slight self-satire involved with founding an all-condemning opinion on a single event, but besides that, you're just playing into the next logical turnaround in art.  Every movement ever thought the previous one was a load of bull, and attempted to revise.  Every advancement is at the same time returning to something like what came before.  Kudos for catching the wave, but if you condemn contemporary art, that's just as bad as when they condemned the modernists, as bad as those in turn condemning romantics condemning baroque and so on and so forth until the beginning of time.

Everyone has their opinions of course.  I, for one, a not a fan of the surrealists.  I think most of them were a lot less revolutionary than their supporters profess.  They do really nothing for me.  It's been said.  BUT!! - Do i think they were BAD??? of course not.  Whether you like something and whether you appreciate it should rarely go hand in hand.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: sharprm on February 13, 2008, 02:13:38 am
If the idea that modern is crap is 'old hat' then I'm glad, I certainly wasn't aware of it. When will this filter through to the museums? I've been to art museums a few times, but its always pretty similar. 75% was modern art and totally worthless, even though there is a whole museum for contempory art nearby. There was a small section for realistic landscapes and portraits, and another 2 small sections for ancient asian art. Those sections should be expanded and the modern art should be burnt or hung in gymnasiums.

Its the same with history museums. There isn't 'cool' stuff like weapons, ancient armour, etc. Its all what was it like living in the 1920's and how has attitudes to women changed. The less said about modern architecture the better ...

Point is that there should be a move to quality stuff, not stuff that is easy to write about. Looking forward to seeing what the 'wave' produces.

About modern art: Sometimes there is nothing to appreciate.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on February 13, 2008, 02:50:21 am
If the idea that modern is crap is 'old hat' then I'm glad, I certainly wasn't aware of it. When will this filter through to the museums? I've been to art museums a few times, but its always pretty similar. 75% was modern art and totally worthless, even though there is a whole museum for contempory art nearby. There was a small section for realistic landscapes and portraits, and another 2 small sections for ancient asian art. Those sections should be expanded and the modern art should be burnt or hung in gymnasiums.

Its the same with history museums. There isn't 'cool' stuff like weapons, ancient armour, etc. Its all what was it like living in the 1920's and how has attitudes to women changed. The less said about modern architecture the better ...

Point is that there should be a move to quality stuff, not stuff that is easy to write about. Looking forward to seeing what the 'wave' produces.

About modern art: Sometimes there is nothing to appreciate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHPOzQzk9Qo
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Cure on February 13, 2008, 03:53:50 am
(http://metamorfosis.risco.pt/img/MD%20fountain.jpg)

PROTIP:  Not about the urinal.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on February 13, 2008, 04:12:09 am
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easy to write about

easy to write about? http://www.ubu.com/film/mccarthy.html (http://www.ubu.com/film/mccarthy.html)  Viewer discretion advised.


Looks like somebody'd benefit from some art appreciation lessons.  :lala:   
(isn't that sentence deliciously ambiguous?)

Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on February 13, 2008, 01:30:19 pm
I've heard it all before on modern art, which more appropriately is post-modern art. I don't see a point in discussing its merits or demerits anymore, really.

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Honesty should determine the significance of a work of art more than controversy or persuasive intent.

Honesty should qualify the significance of the intention of the artist, but in no way does it determine the worth of the artwork itself.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on February 13, 2008, 09:52:40 pm
I should probably choose my words a bit more careful next time :P, because I agree, honesty isn't the sole factor, or even one of the major factors that determines the worth of a piece of art--I was merely saying that it should be pointed before controversy or intent. 

When we are talking about the worth of a piece of art, that's when we have to bring up the artistic elements--line, shape, form, color, value, texture, depth (that sort of stuff)--and how properly each was employed to get across the artwork's message.  I'd say honesty's got little to do with the elements of art :P.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on February 13, 2008, 10:09:22 pm
Call me a simpleton, but good art seems to hit you the moment you see it. There's all sorts of logical bullshat out there to explain what makes a good piece of art, but I'd rather trust my instincts on what I LIKE. So yeah, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", and junk...
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: mattpk on February 14, 2008, 01:18:49 am
I like pie you dont i hate you blah blah uber stop

Do i win in the random contest?


Happy valentines day!
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on February 14, 2008, 01:50:23 am
When we are talking about the worth of a piece of art, that's when we have to bring up the artistic elements--line, shape, form, color, value, texture, depth (that sort of stuff)--and how properly each was employed to get across the artwork's message.  I'd say honesty's got little to do with the elements of art :P.

actually that sort of structuralist viewpoint about art doesn't agree with me on some deep level. I think art of personal value to me is inherently inscrutible. We can talk all about line and form with it as an example, but in the end it's so much more why I love it, and so impossible for me to put it into words. Not to say that one shouldn't try, it's great brain training.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on February 14, 2008, 03:09:39 am
Well yeah, that goes without saying.  And The B.O.B. is right too....true aesthetic is like...a gut, instinct thing...like love or something.  The elements are just an attempt to try to help describe why something is beautiful...why something is pleasing to look at.....so soulless bureaucrat peoples can appreciate art, too :P
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: junkboy on February 16, 2008, 02:35:02 am
Blurry video of SNK/Playmore's latest KOF, now with hi-res 2D graphics!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjScFUY1uLU

Capcom, take note.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: shaheen on February 16, 2008, 06:38:13 am
Yeah, I really dug the video. I was so excited about it that I woke up my friend last night (last morning? this morning? whatever) at 1:00 AM to see it.

The only thing I don't like is the obvious flare of their Falcoon artist in these new graphics, but it's still pretty rockin' and much preferred over what I'm seeing from SF4.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on February 16, 2008, 06:49:14 am
Yeah, saw the link earlier today. Man, looks like kof finally hit their animation mark, and may have the juice to compete with SF3. But I remember them initially parting for mix of 2d AND 3d when news of development first came forward. I was expecting celshaded stuff, but I guess they went the long route, and opted for some good ole fashioned pixel art. Then again, the quality of the vid might not be all too clear...

Either way, yes, SF 4 should have followed suit, but instead are trying to grab younger audiences, who will most likely not go for the supposed revamped graphics.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on February 17, 2008, 04:58:18 am
Just heard a loud crash, a lot of shouting and then a ton of sirens.
I (like most of my neighbours) went down the the street pretending to check the mail and found that a cop car had crashed into a mongrel mob (most prominent gang in new zealand) bike (one of those massive 3 wheeler hog things)
Not sure what happened but the gang member looked pretty hurt and under arrest.

cool.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: sharprm on February 17, 2008, 04:59:52 am
That's very un-patriotic B.O.B.

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e199/sharprm/us3.jpg)

Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on February 17, 2008, 10:03:50 pm
for any who may not have heard, Kosovo has finally declared independence again.  such a move could mean new sovereign democracies in the region...
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on February 18, 2008, 07:18:27 am
for any who may not have heard, Kosovo has finally declared independence again.  such a move could mean new sovereign democracies in the region...

I'm just worried about how it's going to affect future allied relations involving them and our newly surprised Russia and Serbia.  The Second Cold War maybe? Wonder if this snowballs down the line to start another dumb ass war, where nations get stuck in a High school like setting of "well, I'm still cool with Kosovo, as he's a great guy, and Russia totally talked behind my back during lunch yesterday, so F*** him, etc..."...war and politics will be forever ridiculous, and every song or story that glorifies it, only hinders human development in the future of our survival, and insurance(which is ironic, cause my fav' metal band's main subject matter and lyrical content mainly consists of war, heh). I don't care what any body says, or stupid facts they bring up, such as " War has been proven to increase the rate of technology, and weaponry that govern us in the majority of post-war livelihood" or whatever. Meh, I hate politics, I'm done with this topic.

@sharprm: Not sure what's worse, my defiling of a non-existent flag, or you further soiling it in Jpeg cesspool!!  :P Heh...
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: sharprm on February 18, 2008, 10:24:37 am
Yeah, sorry BOB, thought the messiness and jpeg would be forgiven for greater good, showing how with a few small changes you called the united states the great satan.  :D (not sure if my map is even good enough for people to tell)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on February 19, 2008, 07:20:03 pm
Yeah, sorry BOB, thought the messiness and jpeg would be forgiven for greater good, showing how with a few small changes you called the united states the great satan.  :D (not sure if my map is even good enough for people to tell)

Ahh, I see it now, heh. Feel like a dolt for not seeing it earlier. Might have just been me though, as I'm slow to catch things. So apparently, I live in the beard of Satan, and the brains of Satan are directly located in Nebraska. I always knew those Nebraskans were evil...
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Lawrence on February 21, 2008, 05:52:42 pm
Hey cool, C64 games are coming to the Wii's virtual console.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on February 21, 2008, 10:24:21 pm
I don't even know...
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: AdamAtomic on February 24, 2008, 06:54:03 am
So I have been a crappy moderator for the last couple months, but life will be settling down soon enough :)  I spent a week in NYC and just got back from a week at the GDC in San Francisco, there are some pics I took here:

http://www.facebook.com/p.php?i=721348374&k=Y5CYX3V2Q2VM5BMAXD56WT

EDIT: if that link doesn't work, try this one:

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=17411&id=721348374

And oodles more here:

http://forums.tigsource.com/index.php?board=13.0

Pretty much it was totally awesome.  And I played Brawl.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: eck on February 24, 2008, 07:43:36 pm
your link takes me to my facebook inbox  :'(
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Ben2theEdge on February 25, 2008, 02:26:12 pm
So I have been a crappy moderator for the last couple months, but life will be settling down soon enough :)  I spent a week in NYC and just got back from a week at the GDC in San Francisco

You were in NYC and I didn't know? For shame.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: AdamAtomic on February 25, 2008, 04:58:47 pm
Ah dang!  Yeah I could have spent a whole nother week there and still not have been able to visit everyone I wanted to...most of the time was spent standing around in museums anyways!
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Indigo on February 25, 2008, 07:06:05 pm
tyeah mean - you didn't even tell us!  get your toosh back down here to NYC!  Yarrgh!
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: im9today on February 26, 2008, 05:57:46 pm
A new trailer for Super Banana Nababa showing off a few things: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psmBPYsvGIU&eurl :ouch:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on February 26, 2008, 11:39:58 pm
A new trailer for Super Banana Nababa showing off a few things: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psmBPYsvGIU&eurl :ouch:

Is the music in the video going to be included in the actual gameplay or BGM? If so, you win.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on February 27, 2008, 12:16:07 am
delicious
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: im9today on February 27, 2008, 03:48:22 pm
@ B.O.B.: Yeah it is, we're working with this amazing guy called Phlogiston, you can hear more of his stuff here: http://www.iimusic.net/artist/phlogiston.php
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: AdamAtomic on February 27, 2008, 05:12:46 pm
oooo yea i downloaded Mode 3 off 8BP, phlogiston def rocks :D
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Opacus on February 29, 2008, 11:13:59 am
Did any of you ever buy a game at Glu Mobile? I tried to buy Alpha Wing 2 but when I try to pay it keeps saying:
"Cannot find an available route for the purchase. This may be caused by merchant configuration or remote systems failures."
What the hell is that supossed to mean?

And what in the world exactly is a billing address. This is not the first time I've bought something with Visa, but I've never had to give a 'billing address' before.
So yeah this is starting to get on my nerves.
Anyone got an idea about this? Am I just retarded?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on February 29, 2008, 12:42:19 pm
A billing address is the address with which you have registered the card. Usually the same as where you live, but it may vary.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: alkaline on February 29, 2008, 08:13:28 pm
oh my god, i love these new smilies soooooo much  :D  :)  :y:  ;D
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: brianskywalker on February 29, 2008, 11:19:49 pm
 >:D !yus! D: :0# Yeah they're awesome!
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on March 01, 2008, 12:32:54 am
Some of them, particularly :D are hard to read at first glance though.
I'd say I like >:D best.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on March 01, 2008, 03:31:30 am
Fitting considering your post count.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on March 01, 2008, 01:16:27 pm
anyone know what was the last non-anime, non-simpsons movie that wasn't straight to dvd?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: tocky on March 01, 2008, 02:25:34 pm
Bee Movie,  I think.

I thought you also said non-3d, which makes the question all kinds of hard to answer. These're the most recent that (I'd) count:
(I included stopmotion stuff, just because)

2007
(the Simpsons Movie)
Aqua Teen Hunger Force Colon Movie Film for Theaters

2006
Flushed Away
Curious George

2005
Pooh's Heffalump Movie
Corpse Bride
Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit

2004
The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie
Clifford's Really Big Movie

2003
Brother Bear

2002
Treasure Planet
Lilo & Stitch

2001
Osmosis Jones
Atlantis: The Lost Empire
Monkeybone

2000
Chicken Run
The Emperor's New Groove
Titan A.E.

pulled these from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animated_feature_films#2000s

If you cut out the foreign and the not-for-theatre-release stuff, this whole decade's gotten pretty bleak. Of course, with Pixar and Miyazaki and the rest of them included, things are still going pretty well.


Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on March 01, 2008, 02:33:17 pm
oh yah, I meant non-3D also :P
just noticed I said "movie".. I meant to say "cartoon" :crazy:

I've been watching disney's tarzan, can't believe it came out in 1999, I thought it was at least 2001.
I really like the movie, very cool how little dialog there is, infact I don't think there's any talking for maybe the first 15 minutes..
Also been watching the special features, I'd always assumed the 3D environments were just filtered, similar to cel-shading, but it turns out they painted the textures straight onto the 3D objects from the same camera angle used for the sequence
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on March 01, 2008, 11:03:37 pm
what about like, every b-movie?  ???

ie Snakes on a Train (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snakes_on_a_Train)  ;)

There's probably billions of other examples of kung-fu or horror or scifi movies that are direct to dvd.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Akira on March 01, 2008, 11:14:21 pm
Persepollis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persepolis_%28film%29)?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: AdamAtomic on March 01, 2008, 11:15:10 pm
i believe takam was asking about any traditional, 2d animated films that had actually been released in theaters.  The answer is *basically* none, for about a decade now.  This is why so many of us watch anime...
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Opacus on March 01, 2008, 11:29:49 pm
A billing address is the address with which you have registered the card. Usually the same as where you live, but it may vary.

Thanks for that.
Still doesn't work, dunno what it is.
But I sent an e-mail to GLU and they sent it directly to my mobile, for free, hah.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Froli on March 04, 2008, 10:49:38 pm
Rip Gary Gygax. :(
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/TECH/03/04/obit.gygax.ap/index.html
http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=999628

Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on March 04, 2008, 11:33:30 pm
(http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/6287/dsc0157is0.jpg)

clock radios - the lazy man's flashlight.  it's like those sprint commercials only just tilting the camera. 

oh and yeah, it's hard to write cursive on an inverted axis evenly over 30 seconds of exposure.

Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on March 05, 2008, 12:41:40 am
Gygax is dead......i thought he already was? hmph.  sucks.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on March 05, 2008, 12:43:38 am
Is it just me or is constructing heads from circles an overly constraining and tedious task with almost no benefits compared to just laying down a few disconnected guidelines? !yus!

Also, yes, RIP Gygax.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on March 05, 2008, 12:47:28 am
I'd say it make more sense to make a head out of sphere shapes--a face is 3d, not flat, no?  ???
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on March 05, 2008, 12:54:00 am
Um, spheres are the same as circles when unrendered, no? ???
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Dusty on March 05, 2008, 02:34:41 am
Last off-topic message from me:

@ sharprm & Dusty: Pregnant ladies and babies are not a persecuted minority group.

@ vedsten : Exactly my thoughts. "American History X - Curb Stompin' Mania!" came to my mind when I read your comment :S
I can't believe tough that we still have to resort to drawing parallels between racial and sexual discrimination to make people understand that it IS a big deal. It's 2008, when will people just get it?

Last month in the US, 2 gay youths were killed as a result of hate crimes. 15 year old Lawrence King took three bullets to the back of the head by one of his classmates. 17 year old Simmie Williams Jr. was attacked by two men and then shot. Countless others are harassed and beaten every single day. I won't even get into the global scene, if you want to know just google "gay hanging in Iran". Now what were you saying about pregnant women?

Now on topic: I'm calling dibs on Elvira: Mistress of the Dark.
First, this may not make sense to those who weren't following the latest Mock-up Frenzy thread... go there to see what this is about.
Okay... what did my post have to do with pregnant woman and babies?
There's ton of hate crime against all kinds of minorities/races/gender and any other thing that can make someone different from someone else. If this is the kind of attitude that was taken we wouldn't have a lot of good games/art... anything really.
I don't like hate crime anymore than the next person(assuming they don't like it), but I saw absolutely nothing wrong with the mock-up. It didn't depict anything remotely discriminative... it just had a cowboy dodging wrenches that were thrown by... nothing. Sure, it was about a movie that had gay guys in it... but how in the world does that make the mock-up offensive? I guess any movie that has any kind of hate crime is wrong now?
This is the kind of attitude that ends up with the whole world being censored, hands being led by the FCC and such so no one gets their feelings hurt.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Dusty on March 05, 2008, 02:35:58 am
A billing address is the address with which you have registered the card. Usually the same as where you live, but it may vary.
Oh ya... I guess I'm a little late, but I think it's also where your bills were sent before the digital age.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: cave on March 05, 2008, 02:57:58 am
Nobody was censored. I did not ask for the image to be removed, but I could not go without expressing my disgust with the subject matter, and I am glad he had the sensibility to decide to take the mockup down himself.

I will not get into the argument of whether his drawings were harmless or not. If you saw the image and description and didn't think anything of it, there's nothing I can say that will change your mind about that. Maybe you just didn't pay enough attention to the movie. He was not just any cowboy, and wrenches were not thrown at him out of nowhere, for no specific reason.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on March 05, 2008, 03:01:56 am
I think part of Dusty's point was that the mockup itself, without the context of the movie, was entirely innocent. ::)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Stwelin on March 05, 2008, 03:08:06 am
@ sharprm & Dusty: Pregnant ladies and babies are not a persecuted minority group.

Non-minority = fair game.

wait, are you seriously suggesting that a piece of art depicting the murder of a pregnant woman is somehow less vulgar than the murder of a homosexual? Sounds like you're creating the line of discrimination here.

I encourage Mice to defend his original piece. Perhaps I will mockup Triumph of the Will.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Dusty on March 05, 2008, 03:11:01 am
Exactly.

And in the mock-up, the wrenches just came from no where... as most NES games. If you say it's not about the mock-up, fine... if it's about the movie... fine, but why bring it up in the thread for mock-ups? Criticize the movie, not the person who made a mock-up about it, he didn't make the movie.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Atnas on March 05, 2008, 03:20:39 am
I find explicitly discriminatory or racist things hilarious.

I'm not racist or discriminatory by credo, however I wouldn't hesitate to make a gay joke. I view all groups as equal, however some stuff is too outrageous to pass up.  :)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: cave on March 05, 2008, 03:32:30 am
The challenge is about turning a movie into a mockup for the NES. Without the context of the movie, the mockup is completely devoid of meaning... you can't sepparate the two so easily.

I will not criticize the movie, IMO it was brilliant. It did not depict killing a homosexual in a jolly tone, unlike mice's mockup.

@ Stwelin: Don't try to bend my words, of course pregnant ladies are not fair game. You can make a joke about killing them tough, and (likely) no one will get upset. Because pregnant ladies are NOT routinely killed, they won't feel threatened/personally attacked by the joke. I can't believe I even have to state this.

I really do believe now that mice meant no harm, he didn't even know that Jack was murdered in the movie. I'm sure that if he did know, he wouldn't have made that image. Can we please just put this behind us already?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: cave on March 05, 2008, 03:35:20 am
I find explicitly discriminatory or racist things hilarious.

I'm not racist or discriminatory by credo, however I wouldn't hesitate to make a gay joke. I view all groups as equal, however some stuff is too outrageous to pass up.  :)

It must be really nice to be a straight white male and not give a damn about anybody else.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Stwelin on March 05, 2008, 03:45:36 am
I find explicitly discriminatory or racist things hilarious.

I'm not racist or discriminatory by credo, however I wouldn't hesitate to make a gay joke. I view all groups as equal, however some stuff is too outrageous to pass up.  :)

It must be really nice to be a straight white male and not give a damn about anybody else.

Tell this to the black kid who has half my GPA and gets picked over me by the college admissions office.

Affirmative action "Ho!"

edit: just because a piece is not serious when dealing with issues of hate crime, race, gender, violence and et cetera, doesn't mean that it is not valid.

define: satire.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: sharprm on March 05, 2008, 04:09:28 am
Cave - if you had seen the movie with the pregnant lady you would know she was an immigrant and being targeted to be killed by the government because she was an immigrant. This is a real world issue as well where Governments exploit racist sentiments to maintain power. The fact that they were willing to kill off the only chance for society's survival shows how short sighted, self defeating these policies are. But I was like ahahahahahah its that movie and its a nes game ahahah. Chill out, stop thinking in 'black and white' terms. Anyone can say they are not a racist without actually thinking about what racism actually. Here's a good one: an international friend told me that the tram inspectors only fine international students. Was she being racist by calling tram inspectors racist? If she had seen tram inspectors let 'locals' off and been fined herself, thats a fair statement. Otherwise methinks its a generalisation based on a prejudice that 'white people' are racist.

And yeah, I blurred homophobia and racism, but its all based on fear, hatred and the conclusions of a 'reptilian' mind.

How will censorship reduce hate crimes?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on March 05, 2008, 04:22:39 am
Seriously, you guys know how to kill a fun activity... :(
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on March 05, 2008, 04:36:11 am
I know BOB. :(

Let's have a makeout session to lighten the mood :-*
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Blick on March 05, 2008, 05:42:46 am
Or we could have a dance party.

All we need is drums.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Ben2theEdge on March 05, 2008, 11:44:44 am
It must be really nice to be a straight white male and not give a damn about anybody else.

I think at this point this argument has only become ironic.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Conzeit on March 05, 2008, 11:59:05 am
Let's have a makeout session to lighten the mood :-*

GAHAHAHAHa sign me up for that  :D  :lol:

PS: what happened to all those rolling squares emoticons? I think atleast the happy one and the lol one could be replaced with one of those.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on March 05, 2008, 02:19:12 pm
Murder is among the leading causes of death for women, but particularly pregnant women.  This is only small compared to homicide counts against young black men, but it should also be remembered that hate crimes are not the primary motivator in those numbers, either.  To suggest that pregnant women are much less a target of violence and homicide because of their pregnancy than a young black man is a target because of his race alone is to be wrong.

Of course, there is a problem with this argument in that racism is a profound source of poverty and desperation, and both of those situations create environments in which murders and other crimes occur.  The bigots discovered long ago that if you keep people oppressed enough that they begin to behave like animals, they are able to tell themselves that those people are like animals, continue to oppress them, and continue to hide from the fact that their racism is indirectly murder.

This is true among highly educated people, oddly enough.  My grandfather, the late chief justice for the court of Delaware, went to his grave believing that black people caused crime because most of the crimes he reviewed (the gritty sort) were committed by blacks against blacks, not realizing or at least not expressing the idea that poverty causes crime and racism causes poverty among blacks.




As far as the mockup, presented out of context, the player does not understand why he is having wrenches thrown at him.  He unwittingly becomes the homosexual protagonist who is not by any means deserving of such a treatment.  Presented in context, he becomes so knowledgeably.  Whatever anger the player feels in that situation is directed at the unseen adversary - it is impossible to know where the wrenches are coming from aka it is impossible to know who is a danger to you as a homosexual until it becomes an immediate problem.  I stand by the piece as - intentionally or not - promoting empathy for the targets of an arbitrary hatred, be it homosexuality or be it something else equally irrelevant to their rights to a pain-free existence, due to the assignment of roles. 

If they were reversed, say, you were to win by beating homosexuals, it would be much more of a debate between whether it was good or bad.  it would be significantly more profound, as a game, in that empowerment demands decision making which demands a consideration of the subject - it forces people to strongly consider whether they are comfortable with being a bigot.  The success of the game would be measured by the number of people who refuse to play it, because that refusal demonstrates an understanding that the hatred is wrong which is what the game and the film are trying to convey.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on March 05, 2008, 02:27:51 pm
Let's have a makeout session to lighten the mood :-*

GAHAHAHAHa sign me up for that  :D  :lol:

bah, I'll pass - my best friend and I just discovered that there's something extremely depressing about hooking up without a romantic attachment to each other.  Oh well, fun while it lasted.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: mice on March 05, 2008, 02:58:56 pm
Quote from: cave
...he didn't even know that Jack was murdered in the movie.

That is YOUR interpretation of it.

Read this: (search for "jack died" in the text)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brokeback_Mountain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brokeback_Mountain)

Ang Lee movies requires you to think for yourself, not just take the images one by one and store them.
It's clearly a movie about prejustice, and that it is an effect of many things.

Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: leroy on March 05, 2008, 03:27:06 pm
my best friend and I just discovered that there's something extremely depressing about hooking up without a romantic attachment to each other.

That won't stop me and my best friend. I hope.  :(
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: sharprm on March 05, 2008, 03:38:43 pm
Re: adarias' analysis - interesting point that rargh! guy told me once is that he didn't like the movie 'se7en'. He said, by not showing the murders in that movie, you are forced to imagine how the murders took place. As a result of acting out the murders in your mind, you are complicite in them. I was like whoa, thats my favourite movie, now you are telling me I want to become a serial killer? Anyways, I bring it up to post a contrary view, that by not showing the racists, we are forced to imagine why they are throwing wrenches, and perhaps idea is planted in our mind as being valid. Bah, I sound like such a wanker, thats what happens when you try to say "im not a racist/homophobe". Which is hypocriitcal of me, considering I called Adarias a homo as an insult.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: cave on March 05, 2008, 03:47:08 pm
Re: adarias' analysis - interesting point that rargh! guy told me once is that he didn't like the movie 'se7en'. He said, by not showing the murders in that movie, you are forced to imagine how the murders took place. As a result of acting out the murders in your mind, you are complicite in them. I was like whoa, thats my favourite movie, now you are telling me I want to become a serial killer? Anyways, I bring it up to post a contrary view, that by not showing the racists, we are forced to imagine why they are throwing wrenches, and perhaps idea is planted in our mind as being valid. Bah, I sound like such a wanker, thats what happens when you try to say "im not a racist/homophobe". Which is hypocriitcal of me, considering I called Adarias a homo as an insult.

I agree, if the mockup actually showed the gay bashers as the baddies, I wouldn't have had a problem with it. As the game was designed, there was no way to win, it was understood that wrenches were going to be thrown at you forever. Which I guess isn't a bad lesson at all to learn, because it's probably true, at least figuratively... But it does make the stomach turn.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on March 05, 2008, 05:46:09 pm
I agree, if the mockup actually showed the gay bashers as the baddies, I wouldn't have had a problem with it. As the game was designed, there was no way to win, it was understood that wrenches were going to be thrown at you forever. Which I guess isn't a bad lesson at all to learn, because it's probably true, at least figuratively... But it does make the stomach turn.

yeah, the stomach turn is the appropriate reaction, i'm just trying to say that it's a good thing for people to be sickened sometimes if it means fewer wrenches.

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and perhaps idea is planted in our mind as being valid.

I don't know if that's so much a danger because they are clearly antagonizing - most people would not feel an association with the things that harm them directly.  still, it's a risk.

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considering I called Adarias a homo
i had a show of hands at a party to see how many of my friends thought i was gay.  all but three and a half, lol.  perhaps i just give off that vibe.

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That won't stop me and my best friend. I hope.  Sad
Don't have sex with her, that's my advice.  Keep it light so that you have fun but don't end up feeling scummy.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Ben2theEdge on March 05, 2008, 06:03:36 pm
Personally I thought that the humor of the mockup was simply the idea that the player can try to prevent the death of a character that is supposed to die according to the plot of the movie, and that the player's efforts are ultimately futile. A Titanic game where you play as Leonardo DiCaprio jumping on sinking blocks of ice and debris would have been funny for the same reasons.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Atnas on March 05, 2008, 08:37:47 pm
I find explicitly discriminatory or racist things hilarious.

I'm not racist or discriminatory by credo, however I wouldn't hesitate to make a gay joke. I view all groups as equal, however some stuff is too outrageous to pass up.  :)

It must be really nice to be a straight white male and not give a damn about anybody else.

I'm actually a bisexual white male.

I know a lot of gay people as well as black people. None of them seem to care about slurs, and more often than not they are the ones to make them. We're all people. Because you are a minority doesn't mean you should be exempt from having jokes made about you - special treatment like this is the special treatment homophobes and racists give unto these select minorities.

I think you might be opting for political correctness without realizing that the minorities aren't in need of your protection.

I have a high level of empathy for everyone as well - don't go assigning behavioral flaws based on a single post. If something is going too far, it should be stopped, regardless of race or sexual orientation. No one was being harmed by that screenshot. Not even remotely.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Dusty on March 05, 2008, 08:50:38 pm
I think it's funny how he assumes being a straight white male is like... the best life ever.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on March 05, 2008, 11:53:58 pm
I'm actually a bisexual white male.

pound it.

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I think it's funny how he assumes being a straight white male is like... the best life ever.

being a kitten would be better. though they grow up so fast...

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I think you might be opting for political correctness without realizing that the minorities aren't in need of your protection.
insert awkward and politically incorrect joke incorporating "protection"
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Conzeit on March 06, 2008, 01:08:44 am
I think it's funny how he assumes being a straight white male is like... the best life ever.
Obviously, being a BISEXUAL white male is far better  :D
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on March 06, 2008, 02:07:40 am
I've never seen the movie, but I think it's a fairly simple issue.

I think the only way I'd find a brokeback mountain nes mockup offensive is if you controlled one of the homophobes, the two main characters of the movie were made to be evil, and/or if the game was called something like "gay bash adventure"
Even then.. I don't think I'd be offended enough to want it removed.

censorship is bad because it doesn't just fulfill the notion of protecting young innocent minds, it cuts off conversation and information.
Even if something is controversial, it's much better for it to be in your face, so whether you like it or not, you have to deal with it.
Especially in a case like this where it's just a nes mockup that only a few dozen people are going to see.. there's really no harm.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: leroy on March 06, 2008, 07:31:13 am
and/or if the game was called something like "gay bash adventure"
Even then.. I don't think I'd be offended enough to want it removed.

Wait .. Are you saying you're gay?  :-\

 ;) ;)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on March 06, 2008, 07:52:26 am
does it matter? :o
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: leroy on March 06, 2008, 08:11:04 am
Not to me, I'm just excited to learn new things about people.

I can't swim, exciting huh? xD
e: I feel so much lighter now.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Feron on March 06, 2008, 09:42:32 am
i hate political correctness.  i think people should say what they want, whether it be it racist, sexist, or homophobic, as its a matter of opinion and what's the point in free speech if you can't express your opinions.

in my country we can get thrown in jail for racism, how lame is that?  "you can have free speech, just only on certain topics."

and trust the gays to get offended by a GAME-MOCKUP, for gods sake, its a picture.



Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: leroy on March 06, 2008, 09:57:08 am
But such words or pictures can be harmful to little children, and they would grow to think that 'black' or homosexual people are baadd. So I think freedom of speech can and should be limited to prevent this.

If everyone spoke up their mind, alot of people would get wasted.  :(
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Feron on March 06, 2008, 10:11:21 am
But such words or pictures can be harmful to little children, and they would grow to think that 'black' or homosexual people are baadd.

bollocks.  they should learn to form their own opinions anyway.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: tocky on March 06, 2008, 10:13:46 am
Jesus, are people still having this conversation? Mice has the right to make stuff that is kind of offensive. And cave has the right to be offended by it. You can't advocate free speech for some people and not for others. Cave didn't censor mice, mice censored himself. Nobody's rights have been violated.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: leroy on March 06, 2008, 10:33:53 am
bollocks.

I give up, please dont hurt me.  :'( :D
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on March 06, 2008, 11:00:01 am
Let's have a makeout session to lighten the mood :-*

GAHAHAHAHa sign me up for that  :D  :lol:

bah, I'll pass - my best friend and I just discovered that there's something extremely depressing about hooking up without a romantic attachment to each other.  Oh well, fun while it lasted.

That's a useful piece of knowledge, yes.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Ben2theEdge on March 06, 2008, 02:09:35 pm
But such words or pictures can be harmful to little children, and they would grow to think that 'black' or homosexual people are baadd. So I think freedom of speech can and should be limited to prevent this.

If everyone spoke up their mind, alot of people would get wasted.  :(


Isn't that why kids have parents?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: leroy on March 06, 2008, 02:52:44 pm
Any kid can go to the internet. And their parents might not necessarily watch what they're doing every second. If at all.

PS I love your works.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on March 06, 2008, 06:10:38 pm
Believe it or not, children have been hearing a lot of errant or hateful opinions for as long as humans exist and the world keeps on turning...
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on March 06, 2008, 06:39:54 pm
I like total freedom of speech because then I know who to make scathing remarks at. >:D


Anyway, attempted change of topic: Who likes climbing trees? :crazy:

Also holy crap these new smileys are so damn fun to use for some reason. I COMMEND SNAKE. :)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Larwick on March 06, 2008, 06:41:31 pm
i hate political correctness.  i think people should say what they want, whether it be it racist, sexist, or homophobic, as its a matter of opinion and what's the point in free speech if you can't express your opinions.

in my country we can get thrown in jail for racism, how lame is that?  "you can have free speech, just only on certain topics."

Hmm, i don't think they're being put in jail for saying such things, but rather for thinking such things. It's a punishment for doing something wrong, so that they learn from it. Of course, it would be better to be helpfully taught what was wrong about their actions - rather than being shoved into jail so they stew in their own hatred until they're released.

However, if a man said he hated a group of people an incredible amount, so much that he says he'd kill them on first glance, you'd try to stop him from doing it, wouldn't you? Rather than to wait until he commits to his beliefs, therefore giving you a better reason to put him in jail.

So yeah, people should be able to voice their opinions, but if someone voices an opinion that is destructive to the community or even themselves and their intelligence by them continuing to think that, they should be taught otherwise.. right? To a certain extent, depending on situations. Err.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on March 06, 2008, 10:22:32 pm
However, if a man said he hated a group of people an incredible amount, so much that he says he'd kill them on first glance, you'd try to stop him from doing it, wouldn't you? Rather than to wait until he commits to his beliefs, therefore giving you a better reason to put him in jail.

Innocent until proven guilty is how the western world likes to say it plays. You should be able to go ahead and say in public that you're planning to kill the president of the united states, God, and 3,000 jews and have no legal retribution other than perhaps being watched by the secret service or a case file or something.

Thought doesn't equal action. Speech doesn't equal action. Intent doesn't equal action. Be very careful with that mode of thinking of yours, because it leads down a very slippery slope.

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So yeah, people should be able to voice their opinions, but if someone voices an opinion that is destructive to the community or even themselves and their intelligence by them continuing to think that, they should be taught otherwise.. right?

Who are you to teach people that their opinions are 'destructive to the community, themselves and their intelligence'? They might have reasons for believing in what they do which might differ from yours or the status quo's but cannot be disproved. Whereas I say 'I fundamentaly respect all humans' someone might say 'I fundamentaly hate some humans', there's no shining heaven-sent law that says one of the two approaches is valid. What we can do, is engage in even dialogue with people that hold different beliefs to ours, and try to reach understanding, not make them conform to our viewpoint. As you might have guessed, the strong arm of the law isn't exactly a conductive means to achieve understanding.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on March 07, 2008, 02:23:30 am
I know I'm being slightly hypocritical, but come on, this is off-topic people!  :mean:

Too much coherence and imagined urgency among these last few posts!!!!

Besides, this is a community.  A community that likes to practice working under restrictions.  If you want total freedom, get off the internet and go fly and give the finger or something.  There really isn't free speech on this forum. Fuck.  If it's such an issue, maybe there should be a proper and buerocratic thread for it instead of it crowding up our sweet, innocent off-topic thread?

Plus, this is an art community, not a literature community--fuck words--say what you're thinking with art!!!  It's much more fun that way ;)  And isn't fun the bottom line?  Think about it. :P :P :P :P :P :P

Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on March 07, 2008, 02:31:11 am
I don't normally say such things but I find your patronizing of the purpose of the forum and the people participating in such a discussion kinda annoying.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on March 07, 2008, 02:37:07 am
k, no more from me then.  continue on. :)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Conzeit on March 07, 2008, 02:58:20 am
I like total freedom of speech because then I know who to make scathing remarks at. >:D


Anyway, attempted change of topic: Who likes climbing trees? :crazy:

Also holy crap these new smileys are so damn fun to use for some reason. I COMMEND SNAKE. :)
ACK! now that people are starting to use my little devil I noticed a weee bit of an oversight of mine! his horn actually has a flying pixel on it..I'm gonna do one better and AA it to the BG a wee bit.

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b340/baybaybom/evil.gif)<--Fixoredz.

 Can a mod pretty please fix it for me?  :crazy: ...damn I feel like updating a bunch of em C.c I wish more of mine were chosen. Oh well, the two best ones got in so who cares...

I'm gonna go and ask again why the rollin sqaures werent implemented....I thought everyone loved em?

Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on March 07, 2008, 03:18:29 am
Psh, screw everyone else, I wanted Junkboy's smillies to take the gold....
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on March 07, 2008, 05:23:40 am
I just saw the worlds best unmarked cop car - a pale gold pre-millennium Toyota Camry.  not the most badass ride, but nobody will ever notice it until they get their asses busted.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Feron on March 07, 2008, 10:28:28 am
You should be able to go ahead and say in public that you're planning to kill the president of the united states, God, and 3,000 jews and have no legal retribution other than perhaps being watched by the secret service or a case file or something.

My thoughts exactly.

@Rydin, say what you want, just because helm doesnt like it, doesnt mean you should stop.  people will always disagree with you, helm's not special.

@sheman gill, i love climbing, not trees though, i prefer to go on climbing walls or out on real rocks.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on March 07, 2008, 11:34:24 am
I don't think it's a matter of me being special or receiving special treatment, or in fact about me wanting to shut Rydin up. I don't. I brought something to his attention. It's one thing to be a champion of free speech and quite another to be inconsiderate about it.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: leroy on March 07, 2008, 11:41:21 am
http://leroy.ensellitis.com (http://leroy.ensellitis.com)

Which layout do you like better? *puppy eyes* :0' The second one is still WIP.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: miascugh on March 07, 2008, 12:53:32 pm
I wish more of mine were chosen.

Yeah, sorry about that one, yours very really really cool, but they also deviated a lot from the original style, and I kinda had to choose between Snake's original ones and yours, which were almost a set on their own. That is not to say that deviation and exploring new unconventional routes are a bad thing, but it left me pretty much with an either or decision.
The angel and devil ones were ok style-consistency-wise, being a deviation from the color-scheme and accessory themselves anyway. Hmm I think I actually also opted for your yus one, and this is strange since I also packed them together, so it was in my hands too heh.

No offense meant, yours rock and have this very unique expressive conceit flavor :)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Ichigo Jam on March 07, 2008, 04:16:35 pm
http://leroy.ensellitis.com (http://leroy.ensellitis.com)
Which layout do you like better? *puppy eyes* :0' The second one is still WIP.
I prefer the minimalism of the second one.
The circles in the background of the first one are too high contrast where they're behind the text, making it harder to read than it needs to be. Also, the tiling of the background is a bit too obvious for my taste.

Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: AdamAtomic on March 07, 2008, 04:31:01 pm
http://leroy.ensellitis.com (http://leroy.ensellitis.com)

Which layout do you like better? *puppy eyes* :0' The second one is still WIP.

Ditto, first one is basically unreadable.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Dusty on March 07, 2008, 08:30:43 pm
http://leroy.ensellitis.com (http://leroy.ensellitis.com)

Which layout do you like better? *puppy eyes* :0' The second one is still WIP.
I like the first one... but the text is very hard to read against the background. You've got such a mid-way color there though so I don't think changing the color of the font is going to help. I think the problem with it is you have a dark color... but then you have all those light circles going through it. I suggest lowering the contrast so the circles blend more with the background and doesn't obscure the font.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Conzeit on March 07, 2008, 10:17:22 pm
OOh dont worry about it Miscaugh =) I suspected that's what had happened, and I understand that I went off in a different tangent...I usually do! :p I'm glad the two guys got in...I'm not complaining, just voicing my random thoughts at the OT thread  ;) what DID happen to those rolling and bouncing squares tho? I thought everyone loved them.

uh....was the final word on what YUS got used yours?..cause...I know the one that's up isnt my YUS....C.c
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b340/baybaybom/evil.gif) at the risk of being a pain in the ass....can you update this guy to this gif? it kinda irks me that I submitted one that was wrong =o
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on March 07, 2008, 10:22:41 pm
wait, there's a tilted yus too? !yus! so there is! :) :)  :P :-[ :y: :lol: :blind:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on March 07, 2008, 11:33:29 pm
fixed the  >:D
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Conzeit on March 08, 2008, 02:42:57 am
I think the square little fellows work great, no matter who made which.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: am_pm on March 10, 2008, 08:43:13 pm
I know I haven't been up to a usual amount of pixeling lately, but I wanted to pop in to see what any of you might have thought of Sigur Ros' film, Heima. I personally loved it.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Opacus on March 12, 2008, 05:15:23 pm
k, no more from me then.  continue on. :)

Your avatar is fantastic. Really nicely done with the diverse styles and pixel sizes and all. Very creative.
How long did it take you?

 :crazy:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on March 15, 2008, 09:11:42 am
bout three fitty
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Blick on March 17, 2008, 01:08:34 am
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Anyway, attempted change of topic: Who likes climbing trees?
I love climbing birch trees. I'm so light that even the smallest of branches can support my weight, at least momentarily, so I can get pretty high up. So much fun.

I made the mistake of shimmying up a spruce tree though. I still have scars on my arms.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: alkaline on March 17, 2008, 01:54:48 am
I climb trees too. I am not ashamed. whenever there's a tree with low branches nearby, I can't help but climb it. people make fun of me but I tell them it's fun

no one listens  :ouch: they just call me a monkeyboy.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on March 17, 2008, 02:50:57 am
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Anyway, attempted change of topic: Who likes climbing trees?
I love climbing birch trees.
Haha, how the hell do you do that? Aren't they pretty much vertical poles?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Faceless on March 17, 2008, 07:20:34 am
uh....was the final word on what YUS got used yours?..cause...I know the one that's up isnt my YUS....C.c
I believe that's mine. Someone recoloured it though.
These three are mine too: ^-^ 8) :-*
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: JonathanOfDrain on March 17, 2008, 09:22:09 am
I should probably make a thread for this but I doubt there will be many different and debatable answers to this question. How do you get into the game industry? Actually, it be better for me to ask how YOU got into the game industry. I bet a lot of people are curious how to get a job working with video games and I know a handful of the members her are part of the industry. Any stories, advice and internships would be greatly appreciated. :]
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: leroy on March 17, 2008, 11:10:36 am
Birch tree

http://www.scienceclarified.com/images/uesc_10_img0583.jpg

We have a few, I climbed them when i was little. :] Ahh the memories.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: sharprm on March 17, 2008, 11:37:32 am
By chance I came across the cd32 intro for the chaos engine (I didn't know about it before). You can watch it on youtube. I think the original worked better.

http://www.gods-country.de/tcr/content_ce_man1.htm (http://www.gods-country.de/tcr/content_ce_man1.htm)

Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Colonel Mustard on March 20, 2008, 12:51:59 pm
Meh, I've started using Firefox 3 Beta 4, and I was very pleased, but now I found out that they've implemented smooth image resizing :( I've tried googling for a way to turn it off but I can't find any way of doing so. It's pretty strange how you always get the same reaction when wanting to turn it off, "Why would you want that?". Well gee, why would I want to blur out something that's already lossless...

Anyone else here using FF3? And do you know if it's possible to turn it off?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Ben2theEdge on March 20, 2008, 01:16:55 pm
By chance I came across the cd32 intro for the chaos engine (I didn't know about it before). You can watch it on youtube. I think the original worked better.

http://www.gods-country.de/tcr/content_ce_man1.htm (http://www.gods-country.de/tcr/content_ce_man1.htm)



Yeah the whole vibe of the CD version intro is very Saturday Morning Cartoon-esque. Looks like a combination of left-overs from the original game and a new artist who was trying (and failing) to ape to the style. The narrator had a pretty cool voice though. Sounds like the guy from Earthseige 2. :crazy:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: brianskywalker on March 21, 2008, 05:45:58 am
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Anyway, attempted change of topic: Who likes climbing trees?
I love climbing birch trees.
Haha, how the hell do you do that? Aren't they pretty much vertical poles?
Well, people can climb vertical poles, at least I can. Unless they're really big. Things like those poles with basketball hoops on top, or smaller street light poles. Pretty much anything I can grab on to with my hands. It's basically the same as those chainclimbers like on Mulan where they hold on to the chains and push with their feet to climb. You don't need a rope or anything if it's a small pole.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: sharprm on March 21, 2008, 06:04:39 am

Yeah the whole vibe of the CD version intro is very Saturday Morning Cartoon-esque. Looks like a combination of left-overs from the original game and a new artist who was trying (and failing) to ape to the style. The narrator had a pretty cool voice though. Sounds like the guy from Earthseige 2. :crazy:


Yeah, he sounds cooler at the ending of the game where theres echo and stuff.

Cannon fodder cd32 intro is pretty good though.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on March 21, 2008, 08:50:52 pm
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.11773 (http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.11773) why is it compatible with gameboy color? what part? what the phuck?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on March 23, 2008, 01:56:13 am
see godard's contempt while it's back in theatres this week
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Feron on March 23, 2008, 03:16:05 pm
Why did you change your Username?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on March 23, 2008, 03:35:20 pm
because adarias was old and i never really liked it, it started as an age of empires online ID.  slowly trying to replace things with my actual name for better recognition.




cleaning out my fridge today, found some of roommate's "pasta" from god knows when?

(http://xs125.xs.to/xs125/08120/dsc_0017638.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on March 23, 2008, 10:29:48 pm
Damn, that's feckin' gross. I can't stand people who don't finish their food, or clean their plates.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Anything! on March 23, 2008, 10:52:05 pm
Or when they leave food on their plates for you to wash later on. DX

In other news, I wouldn't pay 10 million to see two babies.
If I was really desperate to see children, I can go to my kitchen and open a bag of somethin'. >:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Larwick on March 24, 2008, 02:20:18 am
You have bagged babies in your kitchen?  :huh:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Anything! on March 24, 2008, 02:44:42 am
Naw. Just little siblings.

Open a bag of whateverfloatsyerboat and they come running--  ;D
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: junkboy on March 24, 2008, 05:32:49 am
Paul Robertson's new film, Kings of Power 4 Billion %, is out...

http://probertson.livejournal.com/

... and it's magnifique!
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on March 24, 2008, 11:05:32 am
Haha, just watched it. wtf really.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: 0xDB on March 24, 2008, 01:24:28 pm
cleaning out my fridge today, found some of roommate's "pasta" from god knows when?
That mummy of a baby turtle belongs into a museum!

(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/8426/foodturtleof8.png)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Froli on March 24, 2008, 01:52:10 pm
Just watched Kings of Power 4 Billion % and it is awesome :y:. But It feels like Paul was on drugs while making this. Sprites on crack :lol:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on March 24, 2008, 05:39:14 pm
Paul Robertson's new film, Kings of Power 4 Billion %, is out...

http://probertson.livejournal.com/

... and it's magnifique!

I see this as the ultimate version of japanese animation/videogame aesthetic fixations, from the all-stereotype cast of heroes to absurd levelling ups of power to the endless combo attacks down to the nonsensical 'spiritual' 'trapped in a dream endlessly fufufufu' ending. As such it's interesting and somewhat funny. I don't know however if the endless hours of work that Paul has put into this were worth making such a statement about popular entertainment. If I'm completely off the mark and there's some other meaning involved in this, then alright
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on March 24, 2008, 06:08:45 pm
I enjoy Pauls stuff, tho I have to agree here, esp considering that his other longer movies are essentially the same more or less.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sohashu on March 25, 2008, 07:33:09 am
I enjoy the binary in ptoings avatar.

YUS!
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: shaheen on March 25, 2008, 08:17:23 am
I watched the short, and, eh. I dunno. I just didn't dig it like I did Pirate Baby. It definitely did feel like more of the same, except really jumbled and to an excess that I just couldn't imagine another of its type being made without me groaning.

The animation and whatnot was nice, though.

EDIT: Also: where/who do I go to to get my username changed? If those who can will it are reading, I'd like it changed to 'shaheen.' Thanks.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Ben2theEdge on March 25, 2008, 01:25:53 pm
I thought it was definitely the most ambitious/epic in terms of animation. But Devil Eyes was really poignant and actually had some emotional bite. And Cabana Baby was fun because he tapped into a lot of nostalgia. Kings of Power seems like it's just purely self-indulgence. As an artist he has every right to make a project for himself, but it makes it feel more like you're looking at someone's sketchbook than watching a film.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: big brother on March 25, 2008, 03:57:18 pm
"Kings" is about visual excess. The video game nature of it provides an easy context for the viewer to relate to, and the Japanese flair excellently communicates visual anarchy. While Robertson could have turned this or any one of his pieces into a game, the lack of interactivity forces you to notice the flashy trim more. It's all about impact. I find the "deeper" material in it satirical (like the universe character killing the protagonists by hurting herself). It reminds me of cheesy anime or game storylines that try to be profound. Consequently, his work remains intentionally superficial.   
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on March 25, 2008, 06:21:34 pm
True, but Super Parsnip Bitches, Baby Cabana and Kings of Power are all essentially more or less the same (tho I am very happy that there is no more speech, the voiceover in SPB is, although satirical, gringeworthy).

Personally I like his musicvideo stuff more, esp Devil Eyes.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Atnas on March 25, 2008, 08:16:22 pm
I watched KOP4B% last night. Pretty epic, I'm new to the pixel art scene so it was all very visually impressive.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: sharprm on March 28, 2008, 06:47:02 am
Saw this sound generator maybe others are interested:

http://www.imitationpickles.org/ludum/2007/12/13/sfxr-sound-effects-for-all/
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Metaru on March 28, 2008, 06:58:22 am
downloading it tonight. finally some time to enjoy some movies :P
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on March 28, 2008, 11:40:10 am
kings of power is an overdose of awesome, I love all his other clips, not sure which one the most.. maybe this one for the extremeness.
worth watching in slow motion, lots of stuff you wouldn't otherwise notice.. and some pretty odd nudity :y:

and:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/476062/singing_a_song_in_a_subway/
just keep watching, it gets pretty awesome
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: AdamAtomic on March 29, 2008, 08:32:55 pm
i done chopped off ALL my hair - animated .gif coming later today!!

(http://www.adamatomic.com/pics/hair_wip.gif)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: JWW on March 29, 2008, 08:40:06 pm
kings of power is an overdose of awesome, I love all his other clips, not sure which one the most.. maybe this one for the extremeness.
worth watching in slow motion, lots of stuff you wouldn't otherwise notice.. and some pretty odd nudity :y:

and:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/476062/singing_a_song_in_a_subway/
just keep watching, it gets pretty awesome
yes! thats awesome, love phil collins.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on March 30, 2008, 01:22:20 pm
Ahahahaha, adam, that gif made me think of Garth from Wayne's World :D
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Kcilc on April 02, 2008, 06:54:12 pm
Pawige will be returning to Pixelation in little over nine months!

He is doing quite well btw.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Reo on April 02, 2008, 08:18:08 pm
thats good news!! ;D
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: junkboy on April 02, 2008, 08:32:28 pm
i done chopped off ALL my hair - animated .gif coming later today!!

(http://www.adamatomic.com/pics/hair_wip.gif)

You had like the sweetest mullet ever going there at one point. Why didn't you stop?!  :'(
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Opacus on April 02, 2008, 09:43:57 pm
Adam: Today I pretty much cut most of my hair of too. I still have a little more left then you though ;p

Any of you looked into the new Star Wars game yet? To me atleast it looks pretty damn awesome.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Atnas on April 05, 2008, 12:57:33 am
My taste buds were getting too long.  >:(

(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii201/temporicide/Picture042s.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on April 05, 2008, 01:05:35 am
My taste buds were getting too long.  >:(

(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii201/temporicide/Picture042s.jpg)

those razors suck.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on April 05, 2008, 02:11:42 am
Atnas, you should have done an animated gif like AdamAtomic did :P.

EDIT

*listens*

Do I hear a shaving bandwagon? I think I do! I can clearly hear the wooden wheels crunching through the dirt road.
(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3772/beardgowaywi1.gif)

My hopes were, that by shaving away my beard, I have also shaved away my indolence :P.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on April 09, 2008, 07:42:58 am
I think it would have been awesome, Rydin, if you did the opposite of frame 5, so you had a beard mohawk. :crazy:
Not that it matters anymore, I s'pose.:angel:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on April 09, 2008, 06:16:29 pm
@Rydin: Lookin' much better, man. The beard didn't suit you. Maybe if you were a logger, whaler, or crusty fisherman it woulda', but nay. Congrats on killin' the face pubes!
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on April 09, 2008, 06:38:14 pm
One less neckbeard is always a good thing.

Also, my inner nature comes forth:

(http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/5321/helmearsxx1.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Opacus on April 10, 2008, 07:34:47 am
One less neckbeard is always a good thing.

Also, my inner nature comes forth:

(http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/5321/helmearsxx1.jpg)

Ahahahahaha!
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Ben2theEdge on April 10, 2008, 01:56:53 pm
I think it's been said before, but I like it how all of Helm's pictures are taken either immediately before or after he has slain someone with a broadsword.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Kcilc on April 10, 2008, 02:23:19 pm
And don't forget the occasional bunny!
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: AdamAtomic on April 10, 2008, 03:41:55 pm
Yes, either immediately before or after he has slain someone with a bunny.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Opacus on April 10, 2008, 04:24:32 pm
His looks kill.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on April 10, 2008, 04:41:06 pm
I'm thinking I may cut my hair before leaving for the states.
(brother's graduating college, and we're gonna do disneyworld, grand canyon, other tourist shit)

I've gotten to the point where when I wash my hair, it stays clean for about half a day, after that it's all greasy and looks prepped for dreads.
Most of you guys have long hair too, what am I doing wrong? :'(
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Feron on April 10, 2008, 04:51:28 pm
Most of you guys have long hair too, what am I doing wrong? :'(

let the shampoo soak into your hair for like 10 mins before washing it out.

Also, use conditioner, but make sure you wash ALL of it out.

if all else fails, just use a razor :D
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on April 10, 2008, 06:56:40 pm
How I do it:
-Wash only your scalp with the shampoo, as washing the ends will dry them out.  I mean, wash your hair, but scalp's more important, I'd say.

-Wash a second time with shampoo--key step for dandruff elimination. (optional. I usually do twice every other time.)

-Put in conditioner and let it soak for like 5-10 minutes, based on how much of a hurry you're in, then rinse it out.  Conditioner actually goes in the hair this time, as it would be wasted on the scalp :P

-Then afterwards, brush like a madman.  Start from the bottom of your hair and work towards your scalp because otherwise your hair can tangle and snap and you get split ends.  But yeah, brush a lot; when it gets all dread-ready, brush it.  Sometimes you gotta wet the brush, too, if you have to I mean.

This is a customization of something I got from some fashion site or something and it seems to work pretty well.  I used to be in the same boat of washing my hair and it being a greasy, pre-dread mess by the end of the day, too, and this helped me as far as I can tell.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Larwick on April 10, 2008, 07:11:54 pm
Haha oh man, i remember when i had longer hair. Did absolutely nothing you guys mentioned.  :P
Silly ol' me.

I'm getting my hair cut next week. Will be shoooort, first time in years. Should be exciting.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on April 10, 2008, 10:13:24 pm
   I'm in the same boat as Lar-wack. I just woke up, took a shower, and went to school or work. My hair would naturally go down and wavy. I got's naturally black hair and dark brown eyes(yar, beaner genetics hit me up good). I can't grow a full beard, only a goatee, and 'stache.(spaniard style)
   I got an unborn furry unibrow waiting to burst out into the world, but I keep it in it's place. Haven't grown hair on my chest yet, either, and I'm 21. Maybe I should quit my desk job, and just go out and be a logger, hunter or woodsmen, or something. My body feels so puny, and not developed, like my father's. I guess at at early age he was set to work on a poor farm, so he developed the big hairy forearms, and fat gorilla fingers, whereas mine look like lady fingers. Not so manly, man. Not so manly at all...

Maybe one of these days in this century I'll post a picture, or something...
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Larwick on April 10, 2008, 10:23:01 pm
TBOB i always expected you to be a big, well built guy.  :crazy:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Xion on April 10, 2008, 11:36:08 pm
TBOB i always expected you to be a big, well built guy.  :crazy:
yeah.

I've never had my hair longer than a fraction of an inch, and I intend to keep it that way. But I do want a beard+'stache oh-so badly. Just like this:
(http://www.worldbeardchampionships.com/heinz%20c%20lg.JPG)
While we're describing ourselves, I'm scrawny lanky rippling with masses of perfectly formed and well developed muscles, ~6'. No signs of a beard yet but the 'stache is slowly materializing.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: dtek on April 11, 2008, 06:07:34 am
does anyone think the banning on this forum is too extreme?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on April 11, 2008, 12:02:37 pm
Not really, no. Why? Banning is done on every or any other forum. Should people expect it to be different here? Ripping, editing, stealing, and acting like a downright ass is something I think the pixelart community does not want to be associated with. Harsh? Maybe so. But it's for the best, if a user is to take it seriously and try to improve...

my opinion, of course.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on April 11, 2008, 12:08:04 pm
Eh? How is it extreme? We have a section with RULES (http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?topic=2002.0) and a FAQ (http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?topic=4265.0) and such. If people would read those and follow the simple rules they would not get banned. But seriously, if someone is to daft to a) read the rules and b) posts ripped art and then wonders why he/she gets banned, that is totally their problem.

Also, we only ban for 1 year, after that people are free to join up again if they want.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Ben2theEdge on April 11, 2008, 01:14:56 pm
How I do it:
-Wash only your scalp with the shampoo, as washing the ends will dry them out.  I mean, wash your hair, but scalp's more important, I'd say.

-Wash a second time with shampoo--key step for dandruff elimination. (optional. I usually do twice every other time.)

-Put in conditioner and let it soak for like 5-10 minutes, based on how much of a hurry you're in, then rinse it out.  Conditioner actually goes in the hair this time, as it would be wasted on the scalp :P

-Then afterwards, brush like a madman.  Start from the bottom of your hair and work towards your scalp because otherwise your hair can tangle and snap and you get split ends.  But yeah, brush a lot; when it gets all dread-ready, brush it.  Sometimes you gotta wet the brush, too, if you have to I mean.

This is a customization of something I got from some fashion site or something and it seems to work pretty well.  I used to be in the same boat of washing my hair and it being a greasy, pre-dread mess by the end of the day, too, and this helped me as far as I can tell.


Wow I never did any of this when I had long hair (I just cut it a few weeks ago), and it was still high-maintenance. I'm a progressive guy and all but there's something weird about having longer hair than your girlfriend. (Or at the very least, it didn't feel very manly that I took longer than her to get ready in the morning)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: AdamAtomic on April 11, 2008, 02:18:10 pm
no
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Terley on April 11, 2008, 03:52:29 pm
Wish I had long hair again, really suited it, had mine down past my shoulders at one point. Decided to cut it off for shock one day and I really regret doing it.

For a someone with short hair I've had it longish since but end up getting it chopped off again just because I just hate that 'in-between stage' where I just look like a bushy idiot until it's long enough to look decent. Last time I remember wearing hats alot, and one day just took it off, most people I knew had no idea I'd been growing my hair atall  :P.

Do really miss my hair  :(, kept good care of it, still have some straightners, hair-dryer and loads of hair products, don't get much action these days since my hairs like an inch all over as we speak.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on April 11, 2008, 05:01:28 pm
Alrighty my hair seems a lot better now, it's been 12 hours since I washed it and it's still clean.
The last time I cut my hair was to keep me awake... I was up for over 50 hours and it made sense at the time.

P.S.
Do we have a term to call each other in a sense of comradery?
Most forums do, just wondering.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Reo on April 11, 2008, 05:10:57 pm
Pixelators?pixel artists? ???
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on April 11, 2008, 05:21:03 pm
How about Broham? :crazy:

Also, I have longer hair than anyone I know :P
I've always washed it the same way Rydin said.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Dusty on April 11, 2008, 06:57:31 pm
Term must have something to do with Bruce Lee... he has always been watching over us.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on April 11, 2008, 09:26:32 pm
when I was fifteen, i was a hobbit:  http://b2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00341/26/60/341840662_l.jpg
just washed and conditioned, though.  If i put more work in, I was a farie: http://xs126.xs.to/xs126/08155/hmm459.jpg

soft and silky for the most part, but the ends would get frayed within a few months.

now my hair is standard guy's length (more or less an inch...) and i'm thinking of shaving it again.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Break on April 12, 2008, 05:17:29 am
While we're on the subject, a week ago I had not showered for approximately 15 days, a new record, although I did begin to lose count after the first 10 so who knows. Sometimes when I say I'm getting a shower I just let the water run to enjoy the noise, and hang out in the bathroom and read or something. Afterwards I feel cleaner spiritually so I think it still counts. In my defense I would like to say my hair(which is pretty long) keeps its shape well and actually looks better after a few days of not washing, and I don't engage in enough rigorous activity to work up any swampass or anything. God bless.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: sharprm on April 12, 2008, 06:17:37 am
I like the idea of 'bible fight', in case you haven't seen it already:

http://www.gamerevolution.com/goodie/flash_games/bible_fight
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Conzeit on April 12, 2008, 08:09:50 am
OH MY FUCKING GOD Break...this and the gun move at the Broadsword topic......ROFLMAO XDDDDD  :lol:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Terley on April 12, 2008, 06:13:52 pm
(http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7114/lolyu4.jpg)

lol, me and a mate at some girls birthday..

(http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1615/funhj9.jpg)
Apparently ballons = Fun..

How come girls love crap like that, things you stick on walls, party hats balloons etc. They all just get binned, n its so kid-ish.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Kcilc on April 14, 2008, 03:02:26 am
Your personality (http://www.kisa.ca/personality) type is INFJ.
Introverted (I) 100%    Extraverted (E) 0% ::)
Intuitive (N) 73%    Sensing (S) 27%
Feeling (F) 70%    Thinking (T) 30%
Judging (J) 91%    Perceiving (P) 9%
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Xion on April 14, 2008, 03:44:49 am
My personality type is INFP.
Introverted (I) 71%    Extroverted (E) 29%
Intuitive (N) 64%    Sensing (S) 36%
Feeling (F) 60%    Thinking (T) 40%
Perceiving (P) 86%    Judging (J) 14%

"The Idealist

 As an INFP, your primary mode of living is focused internally, where you deal with things according to how you feel about them, or how they fit into your personal value system. Your secondary mode is external, where you take things in primarily via your intuition.
 ...
 Their primary goal is to find out their meaning in life. What is their purpose? How can they best serve humanity in their lives? They are idealists and perfectionists, who drive themselves hard in their quest for achieving the goals they have identified for themselves."

kind of eerily accurate. :sigh:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on April 14, 2008, 03:58:28 am
Your personality type is INTP.

Introverted (I) 82%    Extraverted (E) 18%
Intuitive (N) 86%    Sensing (S) 14%
Thinking (T) 60%    Feeling (F) 40%
Perceiving (P) 86%    Judging (J) 14%

Eat shit, non-perceivers and feelers! :P
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Xion on April 14, 2008, 04:01:21 am
How unfeeling of you! :'(
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: alkaline on April 14, 2008, 04:14:30 am
Introverted (I) 64%    Extraverted (E) 36%
Intuitive (N) 59%    Sensing (S) 41%
Thinking (T) 50%    Feeling (F) 50%
Perceiving (P) 73%    Judging (J) 27%

Hrm
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on April 14, 2008, 04:17:12 am
Y'know, I've actually taken one of those tests before, and it said INTP's are the rarest type.
It also said they usually date INTPs :-*
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Cow on April 14, 2008, 04:19:37 am
ENTP

Extraverted (E) 57%    Introverted (I) 43%
Intuitive (N) 68%    Sensing (S) 32%
Thinking (T) 50%    Feeling (F) 50%
Perceiving (P) 82%    Judging (J) 18%

People of this type tend to be: friendly, charming, and outgoing; quick-witted, energetic, and irreverent; ingenious, imaginative, and creative; curious, flexible, and unpredictable; logical and analytical. The most important thing to ENTPs is being creative, seeing possibilities, and always having new challenges.

I'm kind of a reddish-grey.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: shaheen on April 14, 2008, 04:38:25 am
Y'know, I've actually taken one of those tests before, and it said INTP's are the rarest type.
It also said they usually date INTPs :-*
Ironically, I also got this personality type!

Specifics:
Your personality type is INTP.
Introverted (I) 64%    Extraverted (E) 36%
Intuitive (N) 55%    Sensing (S) 45%
Thinking (T) 60%    Feeling (F) 40%
Perceiving (P) 59%    Judging (J) 41%

Kinda in the middle with a few of these. Cool.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: sharprm on April 14, 2008, 05:25:16 am
INTP/INTJ. Didn't keep the percentages. I am professor Fink or Mr. burns:

http://successintegrated.com/assets/Uploads/MBTI/Simpsons-Personality-Test.pdf

Here is another test (which is crap because you can identify with all personality typesall tests seem that way):

http://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/test.php

I don't like this stuff (maybe its too simplistic, are personalities constant?) but I think its useful for job interviews (maybe not art ones) .

Interested to see what everyone is. We need a poll for this.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on April 14, 2008, 06:29:06 am
I don't like this stuff (maybe its too simplistic, are personalities constant?) but I think its useful for job interviews (maybe not art ones) .
Mine had a pretty damn accurate description of my thought process and general personality.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: sharprm on April 14, 2008, 06:50:34 am
Sherman - but did you read the other personality descriptions too? I find I identify with all of them in some way, and the INTP isn't necessarily one that I clearly identify with most.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on April 14, 2008, 07:01:05 am
For me it definitely was the one I could identify with the most, but then my percentages were the second most biased so far.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Feron on April 14, 2008, 10:08:15 am
Introverted (I) 71%   Extraverted (E) 29%
Sensing (S) 64%           Intuitive (N) 36%
Thinking (T) 70%   Feeling (F) 30%
Perceiving (P) 68%   Judging (J) 32%


ISTP

Bruce lee was an ISTP  :P
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Kcilc on April 14, 2008, 02:47:54 pm
Look! I made a poll (http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?topic=6227.0) for this.

Y'know, I've actually taken one of those tests before, and it said INTP's are the rarest type.
It also said they usually date INTPs :-*
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INFJs, making up an estimated 1% of all people, are the most rare type (males even more so).
From this source (http://www.mypersonality.info/personality-types/infj/).
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on April 14, 2008, 02:57:15 pm
Ugh. I need to stop relying on my shitty memory for everything :( I feel stupid now.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Kcilc on April 14, 2008, 03:20:27 pm
No, not stupid, probably just misinformed or misread.
Besides, I used to think that INFPs were the most rare, so if you were actually stupid I would be too. :P
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on April 14, 2008, 06:05:21 pm
Introverted (I) 82%    Extraverted (E) 18%
Sensing (S) 55%    Intuitive (N) 45%
Feeling (F) 55%    Thinking (T) 45%
Perceiving (P) 86%    Judging (J) 14%

This isn't a badge though, you know?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on April 14, 2008, 06:18:59 pm
Extraverted (E) 54%    Introverted (I) 46%
Intuitive (N) 55%    Sensing (S) 45%
Feeling (F) 80%    Thinking (T) 20%
Perceiving (P) 55%    Judging (J) 45%

It's quite interesting to me how I've gone from INTP to ENFP over the years. You can see how the E/I one is really halfway, but I've completely abandoned serious belief in analytical processes in the F/T distinction, whereas I once thought that LOGIC WAS ABOVE ALL ELSE and other such things.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Atnas on April 14, 2008, 08:52:27 pm
Extraverted (E) 50%    Introverted (I) 50%
Intuitive (N) 59%    Sensing (S) 41%
Feeling (F) 55%    Thinking (T) 45%
Perceiving (P) 86%    Judging (J) 14%

ENFP  :-X
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Terley on April 14, 2008, 10:11:35 pm
Introverted (I) 82%   Extraverted (E) 18%
Intuitive (N) 77%   Sensing (S) 23%
Feeling (F) 85%   Thinking (T) 15%
Perceiving (P) 73%   Judging (J) 27%

Tried to be as honest as possible.

Aw and RIP Mark Speight, Many of you may not have a clue who he is. But I used to love watching him as a kid growing up presenting 'SMart' a childrens art program, was found dead at a train station. Heartbreaking news  :(

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6pc07bEffx4
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Larwick on April 15, 2008, 12:26:31 am
Your personality type is ISFP.
Introverted (I) 68%    Extraverted (E) 32%
Sensing (S) 55%    Intuitive (N) 45%
Feeling (F) 55%    Thinking (T) 45%
Perceiving (P) 73%    Judging (J) 27%


And hey Terley i know, i was reading the news this afternoon and actually sat on the bus staring at the page in shock. I used to watch SMart with him in it too. Really sad.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on April 15, 2008, 01:06:49 am
" Your personality type is ISTJ.

Introverted (I) 86%    Extraverted (E) 14%
Sensing (S) 55%    Intuitive (N) 45%
Thinking (T) 80%    Feeling (F) 20%
Judging (J) 68%    Perceiving (P) 32% "

Ummm...So yeah, I'm with the likes of Joe Friday, and good ole' George Washington. Meh, this stuff is baloney, anyway....and I enjoy HAM much more.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Atnas on April 15, 2008, 01:25:31 am
I hate how I was grouped with ENFP when Extraverted and Introverted were half and half.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Larwick on April 15, 2008, 01:32:48 am
I hate how I was grouped with ENFP when Extraverted and Introverted were half and half.

You can very easily say you are INFP and check out the stuff related to that too. I guess it's just a simple system that can't make you both or say you're either/or.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: chriskot on April 15, 2008, 02:10:11 am
I am ISTP.

I - 61%
S - 50%
T - 60%
P - 77%

"Like their fellow SPs, ISTPs are fundamentally Performers (note the capital 'P' :-)), but as Ts their areas of interest tend to be mechanical rather than artistic like those of ISFPs, and unlike most ESPs they do not present an impression of constant activity. On the contrary, they lie dormant, saving their energy until a project or an adventure worthy of their time comes along--and then they launch themselves at it. The apparently frenzied state that inevitably ensues is actually much more controlled than it appears--ISTPs always seem to know what they're doing when it comes to physical or mechanical obstacles--but the whole chain of events presents a confusing and paradoxical picture to an outsider."

------------------------------

Something awesome that my brother showed me yesterday:
http://morph.cs.st-andrews.ac.uk/Transformer/ (http://morph.cs.st-andrews.ac.uk/Transformer/)
An amusing little tool. Upload a picture of yourself, and alter your age and race. Aging works quite well, but making yourself younger... not so much. The race bit is also hilarious.
I might post a few pictures that I generated with it later. I will apparently be a VERY creepy old man.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on April 15, 2008, 02:21:03 am
Just dropped off my dog at the SPCA kennels for while we're away. :(

A month ago my uncle attempted suicide (schizophrenic, paranoia, depression), he had a black lab puppy, but he couldn't really train it, and once he had to stay in hospital for a while we had to give his dog to the SPCA.
They told us today that he had been taken in by the police and is being trained n everything, so that's cool  :)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: im9today on April 15, 2008, 04:08:28 am
I got ENTP. After reading the info about the type, I'm really impressed with this test.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on April 17, 2008, 04:07:22 am
finally saw the golden compass/northern lights, and i have to say i had a mixed reaction.  it had great moments interspersed with filler and an oversimplified telling of what memory tells me was an excellent story...though it's been a while since i read things.

awesome moment though when he "slaps" the bear's jaw.....off......
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on April 17, 2008, 05:01:02 am
   I can't stand any of the Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, Narnia, and Golden Compass epic-movie poo out in the movies, right now. Marvel shoving down comic-book hero movies down our throats isn't helping matters either. I feel bad for my fav' super hero, Captain America, as I'm sure when his script is written, and the movie is rolled out to theaters world wide, it will do poorly, because 1: I think EVERYONE is getting a little tired of the comic book crap, and 2: what better way to say "phuck you" to Americans, then to NOT watch the fantasy embodiment of American patriotism. Next thing you know, they'll replace George Bush doll burnings, to Cap. America doll burnings, heh.

   Nothing really good in the movies that I'd like to see right now. So I've been watching some older ones to pass the time. Saw a bit of Platoon and was surprised. I think I would have enjoyed it more if I caught it from the beginning. Forest Gump is a great movie, and never seems to lose it's charm with me. I love The PropositionChildren of Men is on my top 5 favorite movies. Tried watching The 300, but it's amazing how quickly style loses it's charm after the second time around.

I REALLY need to get a new guitar, preferably electric with amp...gettin' bored over here.  :sigh:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Dusty on April 17, 2008, 05:14:28 am
Been going through a CD-R I found that had a lot of my very old stuff burned on to it. Found a lot of my old pixel-art--which makes me cringe, but I also found a lot of images from old Pixelation I have saved. I hate Sals stuff, the Fucked Up Rito, and a few other things. I don't exactly know why I saved them though. Guessing because most are really good... since they are, I just don't remember who made them.

Anyways, going through my old art either makes me want to cry because I thought I was decent back then, or be surprised because some of it's better than stuff I make now :/

Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: sharprm on April 17, 2008, 09:14:42 am
Most of the comic book movies were bad. I really liked 'Xmen 1' (NOT the sequels) and 'fantastic four: rise of silver surfer' (NOT the first one).

'Stardust' is a pretty good movie. 'Golden compass' had too much edited out.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Terley on April 17, 2008, 12:30:21 pm
I liked the Spiderman movies, mostly because I wanted to be him when I was 5  :)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: AdamAtomic on April 17, 2008, 02:12:43 pm
golden compass was the worst movie i've ever seen, with the possible exception of ultraviolet
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: snake on April 17, 2008, 03:23:55 pm
Probably old news, but I came across this the other day. Thought I'd share.

http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1214186_1124.html

Appairantly, SNK is upping their spritesize for the 12th KOF installment. All pixel as far as I can tell from the JPEG shots. SNK might be doing what people were hoping Capcom would do. Fighting games aren't really my field, but they do produce a lot of detailed pixel art, so... 

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/30829.html Trailer for those intrested.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Opacus on April 17, 2008, 03:36:46 pm
Probably old news, but I came across this the other day. Thought I'd share.

http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1214186_1124.html

Appairantly, SNK is upping their spritesize for the 12th KOF installment. All pixel as far as I can tell from the JPEG shots. SNK might be doing what people were hoping Capcom would do. Fighting games aren't really my field, but they do produce a lot of detailed pixel art, so... 

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/30829.html Trailer for those intrested.
?
Definatly not pixel art as far as I can tell.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on April 17, 2008, 03:53:55 pm
Forest Gump is really not a movie I like.  It's just too............i dunno, it's got its own category of things I don't enjoy.  And it's not like i dislike it, it just does nothing for me.  like porridge but with less flavor (because I actually enjoy porridge).

Children of Men though is total plus.

Among my personal favs that I recently rewatched (in the last year) are Hotel Rwanda, My Neighbor Totoro, The Grapes of Wrath, Casablanca, Lonesome Dove (not really a movie), The Lion in Winter (old version), to name a few.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: big brother on April 17, 2008, 03:54:53 pm
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Definatly not pixel art as far as I can tell.

According to SNK, they make high res renders modeled off the existing actions. Then they painstakingly pixel over each frame. With this process, and artist finishes a frame and a half per day.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on April 17, 2008, 04:41:57 pm
   Pixel art or not, it still looks gorgeous to me. I remember seeing it a while ago, and thinking to myself "FINALLY, SNK decides to update their rehashed sprites."...

   In other fighting game news, the SF4 3D is looking to be kinda' fun. I think most people here were hating on it, because of the not so real anatomical characteristics, and 'roided up Ryu. But after looking at all the other character models, realism wasn't what the creators were going for. It seems like they've been improving the character models a bit since we last saw them, as Ken's face looks a bit better, but Ryu still has huge, weird looking eyes, and face. However, as far as gameplay is concerned, it still needs a bit of work. I was hoping something close to SF3 type controls(yeah, I know I'm one of the many, so sue me.), like parrying, and maybe even dodging as well. I don't like the whole 1 attack per move type deal, like the old Street Fighter games were. Instead I'm more a fan of the combo system that's evolved in later 2d games. Hopefully they improve this portion of the gameplay to allow for more experienced players to compete...oh, and for fun as well.  ;D The specials look great as far as I can tell. Some of the New characters look like they may be fun to use (El Fuerte, Rufus, and Abel).
   I saw the newest Soul Calibur intro the other day and came to realize it didn't really make much sense...just huge, bouncy ta ta's and sword fighting....and Darth Vader. Weird.

Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on April 17, 2008, 05:51:17 pm
 :'( Uff, I got in a car crash yesterday, sister's car is totalled and my neck is killin' me, but no serious injuries in our car. And then our dad's land cruiser broke down so the only working cars we have are the super-old and unreliable ones.


On the subject of movies, though, you guys seen The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra? It's like Plan 9 From Outer Space only less boring and more retarded.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: snake on April 17, 2008, 06:10:26 pm
Quote
Definatly not pixel art as far as I can tell.

According to SNK, they make high res renders modeled off the existing actions. Then they painstakingly pixel over each frame. With this process, and artist finishes a frame and a half per day.

I've often wondered about this technique. I mean, would it actually save any time or have significant benefits? If you intend to keep it clean, maybe meet a colourcount, the only way I can see them doing it is using a fairly low-poly model with no AA and maybe some basic colours. Considering you make to make the model, rig it, and then start working on adding detail, it seems very timeconsuming. Not to mention you have to position the thing for animation captures. If you sprited and animated from scrach, you could avoid all those steps. I can see the benefit of getting the perspective, pose and proportions correct though.

With characters that have little additional detail and no outlines, I suppose it could be a bit faster. Elena in SF3 is very obviously traced from something, but has little additional detail, so it makes sense. If you have alot of baggy clothing with edges, belts, chains, straps and whatnot, I don't think it would be very beneficial apart from the pose. Adding cloth simmulation to the model would be an enourmous waste of time at least. Better to pixel that.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on April 17, 2008, 11:57:36 pm
Ah, Elena from SF3, epitome of bad rotoscoping. But I said that often enough.

Anyway. Got's myself a blog.

Has nudity for those of you who are concerned.

http://ptoing.blogspot.com/ (http://ptoing.blogspot.com/)

Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on April 18, 2008, 12:14:15 am
Anyway. Got's myself a blog.
I'm gonna be checkin' up frequently, baby :-*.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Conzeit on April 19, 2008, 01:44:46 am
Hey guys, I'm needing some kind of free forum with a server of it's own for a project of mine, and I was wondering wether any of you had any experience on this. I remember there was something like this called Ezboard back in the day.....what's the best thing right now?


Dont need too much fancy stuff, just ease of use and hopefully some free uploading space to go along with it
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on April 19, 2008, 01:59:58 am
SMF (what we are using) is simple enough to set up. Free uploading space is another thing. For any forum to work you need a server to support php or at least cgi (which is not much used anymore anyway). Then again, hosting is not that expensive at all really, all depends on how much traffic you will get.



Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on April 19, 2008, 05:45:10 am
From what I remember, The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra kicked ass...haven't seen it for a few years though.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sohashu on April 19, 2008, 01:56:17 pm
Your personality type is INFP.
Introverted (I) 68%    Extraverted (E) 32%
Intuitive (N) 91%    Sensing (S) 9%
Feeling (F) 90%    Thinking (T) 10%
Perceiving (P) 95%    Judging (J) 5%

Also, for those who can be bothered reading and trying to understand this weird system,

Type 4 - 13.3
Type 2 - 11
Type 9 - 10.7
Type 5 - 10.7
Type 7 - 9.7
Type 6 - 8.7
Type 3 - 5.7

Wing 4w5 - 18.6
Wing 5w4 - 17.4
Wing 4w3 - 16.2
Wing 5w6 - 15
Wing 7w6 - 14
Wing 6w5 - 14
Wing 2w3 - 13.8
Wing 6w7 - 13.5
Wing 3w4 - 12.4
Wing 2w1 - 12
Wing 9w1 - 11.7
Wing 9w8 - 11.3
Wing 3w2 - 11.2
Wing 7w8 - 10.3

more on what that means here http://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/introduction.php (http://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/introduction.php)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Zolthorg on April 19, 2008, 02:01:50 pm
Hey guys, I'm needing some kind of free forum with a server of it's own for a project of mine, and I was wondering wether any of you had any experience on this. I remember there was something like this called Ezboard back in the day.....what's the best thing right now?


Dont need too much fancy stuff, just ease of use and hopefully some free uploading space to go along with it

ezboards, and proboards are easy and free hosted
but there are multitudes of exploits for both softwares (ezboards and PHPBB)

try forumer, they were nice enough when i gave them a shot
simple machines is obviously good if you grab some webspace :P
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: sharprm on April 22, 2008, 10:04:33 am
We read a few topics "i paid half but the kid didn't do any of the artwork" and I'm sure this problem hurts the reliable people in that it may be difficult to distinguish between the two groups. One way around this would be if a moderator of the forum would act as a go between for a small fee. eg. the artist (A) and the programmer (P) agree on artwork required and 'milestones' where payment should occur. P gives the moderator all the money (M) via paypal, then as A completes milestones (eg. all tiles done) P pms the moderator and M transfers money to A.  If A stops working, M gives money back to P.

I haven't thought through the practicalities and I'm sure it would be a headache for M, but thats where the fee comes in. Just putting the idea out there.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on April 22, 2008, 11:58:02 am
That's not what the mods here are there for. And I for one would not welcome the idea of involving the forum in financial matters of others.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: sharprm on April 22, 2008, 12:24:46 pm
Well I guess anyone with the time and paypal account could offer this service. I suggested moderators because of their trustworthiness and they can work together so any one person doesn't have too much cash in their account (ie. reduce incentive to leave with money). Perhaps this problem of people getting ripped off doesn't occur often. Would anyone, artist or programmer, be interested in using such a service provided the kinks were worked out?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Feron on April 22, 2008, 02:14:40 pm
paypal takes a cut too, so every transfer you do would result in loss of money.

also, whats to stop person M stealing all the money (moderators aren't that trustworthy you know!)

also, this is why most companies pay you after you've done the work, and a service like this would be a bit rediculous.  There's no need, I like to have a decent connection and trustworthy employers.

you can normally tell if someone is going to rip you off.  Judging characters and making decision is all part of the business world.  I don't think i would want someone to take a cut for doing that for me.

plus i don't really think this type of thing should be anything to do with an art critique board, If you think it would be a good business venture why not set it up on your own website.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: AdamAtomic on April 22, 2008, 03:40:42 pm
This is called "escrow" and lots of institutions provide this service already, especially for large purposes like houses.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: sharprm on April 23, 2008, 01:40:37 am
also, this is why most companies pay you after you've done the work, and a service like this would be a bit rediculous.  There's no need, I like to have a decent connection and trustworthy employers.

This transfers the risk to the artist and isn't what always occurs:

http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?topic=6241.msg72881#new

http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?topic=4199.msg67160#msg67160


plus i don't really think this type of thing should be anything to do with an art critique board, If you think it would be a good business venture why not set it up on your own website.

I wasn't trying to make some money. 50$ paid to someone for nothing means that the programmer has 50$ less to pay a genuine artist, or he might give up on hiring altogether. I was thinking about 'market efficiency' when I made the post.

This is called "escrow" and lots of institutions provide this service already, especially for large purposes like houses.

Maybe you could recommend a "pay after he has drawn half policy" or this service in the rules section for PAID sub forum (when hiring less experienced artists). Maybe not necessary, I could only find two topics about rip offs (and one is unresolved), so guess its not a big problem.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Kcilc on April 24, 2008, 04:50:35 am
Xion, your avatar has too much big, and not enough small.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/Daroge/Xion.gif)

No real reason for doing this, I just decided it'd be fun to try to downsize your avy.  :crazy:

Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Xion on April 24, 2008, 05:32:15 am
Haha, awesome :)
How unexpected!

*saves*
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Kcilc on April 24, 2008, 05:54:03 pm
Post good nights sleep version.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/Daroge/Xion2.gif)
now, with more fitting colors, and no rushed text!
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Blick on April 25, 2008, 07:00:13 am
Lost returned tonight.

It wasn't epic.

But it was still good.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rosse on April 25, 2008, 03:47:56 pm
Whoot! Lots of Studio Ghibli Dvd's in the mail today!

Nausicaa, Castle in the Sky, Kiki's Delivery Service, Whisper of the Heart, Spirited Away, Howl's Moving Castle (all Special Edition)

Happiest man on earth ;)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: big brother on April 25, 2008, 03:58:48 pm
Don't forget Porco Rosso. It needs love, too.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on April 25, 2008, 04:20:13 pm
And Princess Mononoke. Though those are all Miyasaki films, they have other great movies as well. Like Grave of the Fireflies (that is not one you would wanna watch more than once tho T_T)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Larwick on April 25, 2008, 04:24:28 pm
Woah man you better already have Princess Mononoke.

EDIT - damn, ptoing beat me to it.

I have Howl's Moving Castle, Princess Mononoke and Spriited Away, i guess i should have a go at watching some more too.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rosse on April 25, 2008, 04:39:15 pm
Yep, saw all Ghibli films except for "Only Yesterday" and "My Neighbors the Yamadas".

Porco Rosso: Good film, but not one of my favorites. Nice aeronautic scenes however.
Princess Mononoke: Lovely film, but the special version has not the complete storyboard (like the other films I ordered). I order it next time.
Grave of the Fireflies: I don't know. Maybe I don't know enough about the japanese history or the film was just to sad. Don't like it very much.

[edit]
I like Spirited Away the most so far
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on April 25, 2008, 05:56:55 pm
Grave of the Fireflies (that is not one you would wanna watch more than once tho T_T)

that one and Life Is Beautiful compete for the honor of "saddest movie I've ever seen twice."
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on April 25, 2008, 06:34:39 pm
Aww man, did you have to remind me of that movie? It's great but sooo sad as well. There are some complete downer movies out there.
Requiem for a dream is also on that list.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Blick on April 25, 2008, 07:34:53 pm
Quote
Like Grave of the Fireflies (that is not one you would wanna watch more than once tho T_T)
I watched that on Turner Classic Movies years ago and I remember crying like no other.

This all just reminds me that I still have to get My Neighbor Totoro. I remember watching it when I was about two years old, just vague images of it is all I can remember, but I must watch it again.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on April 25, 2008, 09:32:51 pm
Heh, he forgot that one as well. Pompoko also.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Flame on April 25, 2008, 10:46:24 pm
Im not sure if anyone is into any urban/street art, but I thought this was pretty cool:

http://gawker.com/5006905/flowing-pixels-in-the-east-village
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on April 25, 2008, 11:12:05 pm
Im not sure if anyone is into any urban/street art, but I thought this was pretty cool:

http://gawker.com/5006905/flowing-pixels-in-the-east-village

Quote from: the linked post
Pretty. This would have more impact with a starving dog tied to it.

i wish i had gone past that while it was there, i've been on east ninth all week looking at apartments.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Dusty on April 29, 2008, 05:50:48 pm
Eh, I was checking out pixeljoint's new challenge and one of the rules is to have no more or less than 32 colors. I don't really like the idea of the rule but was basically told to shove it when I brought it up because it's 'new'. Can anyone shine some light on why that's a good rule... am I missing something?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on April 29, 2008, 07:50:45 pm
   Dusty, it's a challenge, that's why. The winner, Adam, felt it should be exactly 32 colors, so that's the rule. I don't think someone told you to shove it, just that it was the winners decision to make the rules. In my opinion, 32 colors in a piece isn't so bad, and not so hard. After all, most challenges with color restrictions usually like to keep it below 16 colors, so this kinda' gives some extra room. Plus the other rule is it being over the subject of a fictional sports. Most team sports have some type of individual colors, making this exact color rule, not so bad. IE, if a piece were about two fictional teams going against each other, one could be red other could be blue. So to fit the restrictions, each team could have their own 16 bit palette, to differentiate between the two. Could work something like this:
   >>Team 1: 4 red ramps + 4 skin ramps + 4 earth ramps(browns, darks, etc) + 4 white ramps(numbers, eyes, light)=16 colors
   >>Team 2: 4 blue ramps + 4 skin ramps + 4 earth ramps(browns, darks, etc) + 4 white ramps(numbers, eyes, light)=16 colors
   >>total 32 colors(and if set in a field, you could use some existing colors to make the ground, like the given earth ramps, and white ramps)

   Again, this is just a simple take, as there are other options you have here, as one team could primarily be made up of 8 individual colors, as well as the other team, making 16 in total, while the other 16 colors can be set for a background. Or one can go wild on a piece, do a color count and find what he needs to add, or take away, if not the anal type. Really, I don't see the fuss in this, or why the need to bring it up on a different forum, unless you really feel color count of a challenge should NEVER be a certain number, if it's just for a retarded giggle.

   But if you still feel strongly against the rules, then that's the opinion I guess. I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, I just wish you'd talk it over with the people at Pixeljoint a little more, so it can be cleared up if possible. Make the lovez, not the warz, man...z..
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Dusty on April 29, 2008, 08:12:01 pm
Eh, I wasn't trying to make war or anything :P I just wanted to know what the logic in it was. Instead people just kept telling me that's the rules, you either like it or don't participate. That's why I brought it here... as they didn't seem like they wanted to discuss it, just follow it. I figure I could get some explanations about it that weren't so biased here.

Restricting to under 16 colors makes sense... it forces us to manage our colors effectively... it challenges us. On the other hand I don't see how forcing us to add colors is challenging... it feels more artificial.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Zolthorg on April 30, 2008, 03:41:31 am
forgot to grab me a tile in the iso collaboration
i'm such a failure pixel artist (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/zolthorg/awesomeface.png)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Dusty on May 02, 2008, 07:16:15 pm
http://www.whereismyeyeball.com/2d/underneath.html

This was posted on pixeljoint and someone mentioned collab and I agree it would be a great idea for a collab. Having a huge vertical piece and sectioning it off and having each person do a layer of the planet(or any planet for that matter) would be pretty cool.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on May 03, 2008, 08:58:01 pm
forgot to grab me a tile in the iso collaboration
i'm such a failure pixel artist (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/zolthorg/awesomeface.png)

you can have 12 if you like, i've been waiting to see what people around me do so i've yet to begin
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on May 03, 2008, 09:02:33 pm
I posted in the Iso Collab thread that it does not work like this. You can say that you free a tile in there. But not pass it on to anyone else of your choosing. Who comes first to announce he wants it, gets it.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on May 04, 2008, 12:20:13 am
I posted in the Iso Collab thread that it does not work like this. You can say that you free a tile in there. But not pass it on to anyone else of your choosing. Who comes first to announce he wants it, gets it.

kk.

more OT about your sig though, I read it as "Etienne" instead of "Ptoing"
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on May 04, 2008, 03:21:05 am
kk.

more OT about your sig though, I read it as "Etienne" instead of "Ptoing"

Is that what it says? Total mindjob...

In other news, people who send chain mail, are RETARDED. With capital letters, and such.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on May 04, 2008, 09:43:34 am
It says

PTOING
BLOING

tho it is not the most readable of typefaces I have to admit.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: mattness on May 04, 2008, 12:10:56 pm
Why isn't the sign hyperlinked to the blog?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on May 04, 2008, 12:16:11 pm
 :lala: :sigh: :-[ :lol: :y:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: mattness on May 04, 2008, 12:29:26 pm
Loool  ;D  Well done!
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on May 04, 2008, 12:30:36 pm
tho it is not the most readable of typefaces I have to admit.

it reminds me of our chessboard conversation  ::)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on May 04, 2008, 01:02:27 pm
Haha, I can see how that would work :D
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on May 04, 2008, 07:19:02 pm
what's it mean when you're busking, and your hand locks up and you have to physically *pry* it off your guitar?  think it was the cold, or something else?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on May 05, 2008, 12:32:32 am
If it's painfull it could be RSI in the worst case. So if you have pain moving your fingers you should give them a rest. I had a bit of RSI when working on the PC a lot during crunchtime. Not fun.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Willows on May 05, 2008, 05:17:57 am
I've had one of my hands lock up whilst hanging off scaffolding (25+ minutes of fully clenched grip) and my legs/calves lock up and refuse to move for about 30 seconds. The legs are painful, but the hands are just scary, because I wrapped my legs around the scaffolding to support myself and tried to use my other hand to move my digits in any direction, but they were frozen in place :O

About a minute later, all was well.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on May 07, 2008, 03:30:42 pm
I had one of my hands lock up this morning while a friend of mine (and I, but mostly him...) carried a couch halfway across manhattan (Delancey and FDR to 24th and 3rd).
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Jamie on May 07, 2008, 06:07:19 pm
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j12/BassAceGold/UAPaint-1.png)

NDS Homebrew popped up this week, made for pixel art.

http://forum.palib.info/index.php?topic=4695.0 (http://forum.palib.info/index.php?topic=4695.0)

It is worth the try if you own a homebrew cart - has a grid when zoomed in and such so it's not so hard  :y:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Opacus on May 07, 2008, 11:53:20 pm
 >:D 666 posts fwahahahahaha!!!!! >:D
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Feron on May 08, 2008, 07:01:27 pm
looks like we're missing a news box banner ^^^
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on May 08, 2008, 08:45:24 pm
Neh, it's not missing anything. It's done for aesthetic pleasure. That, or they'll place a porn ad in it's place, till a newsworthy, or post-worthy subject comes along...I got my money on the pornz, though.

(pixel boobies, yay!  :crazy: )
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on May 09, 2008, 05:54:25 am
so my wallet got stolen April 9th, and i couldn't replace anything for a while (finally got access to my bank account TODAY) because i had no documents, and i was thinking about how like, everyone was good and let/gave me food and shit over the last month, so i decided to get this homeless guy a coffee and we sat down and got to talking just on the sidewalk on 14th and starbucks and this girl comes by, who must have been parsons and like, starts to take his picture and he's like what the are you doing? and she's like, oh, is it alright if i take your picture? and he's like no that's fine, but not like that and he starts giving her all this shit about the way she's got the camera setup and asking what shes shooting on and whether shes checked the light and everything and if her film speed was bler bler and it turns out he's a photo journalist that lost his house because his wife died and he couldn't pay the rent which sent his credit to hell and then she got scared and just sorta...left? and he's like "what's sad is that she probably doesn't realize that the moment there, where two people realize they have something in common, is actually a more beautiful than any of those boring old shots of homeless people that everyone takes."

thought i'd share, as it made me realize (again) what children we all are (my friends and I).



on an unrelated note, does anybody keep up with celebrity gossip the way I don't ?  well if you do, you might know that Paris Hilton had a poor neglected cat that was taken away because she abandoned it at the vet.  Three months later, this wonderful cat has found a home, in my new apartment.  I'm just finalizing the paperwork with my friend jordan's mom (whose shelter did the rescuing) and will be picking up little Prada from the airport when she comes to visit her daughter next week.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on May 09, 2008, 08:15:32 am
Homeless people.. saw a lot in New York and Vegas, most of them seemed like very abusive crackheads so I didn't exactly sit down for a coffee with one of em.
But as we got to less tourist infested states they seemed to get less and less 'homeless' and more like beggers.. Like they might have a place to sleep, looked pretty clean.
But it was Indiana, apparently the PCP capital of USA... so I didn't drop any change.

Paris Hiltons cat?
two things I definitely don't care for :P (I know we've already established pixelation is a very pro cat forum)
That's enough of a segue, today I took my dog to the park for some fetch
After about 5 minutes she starts dragging her back legs.

So I'm thinking she's got a cramp or something, but on the way back she keeps falling down :(
I was talking to an old guy who had his dog too and he was telling me about how lab's will just keep running even though they should rest, just like they'll keep eating even if they're full.
So I carried her to the nearby vet to make sure everything was alright, at first they thought she might have had a seizure or a stroke, but since it was so gradual and she remained full conscious it didn't fit.
She's fine now, they said to keep an eye on her while she's exercising so I'll take her to the beach soon, she runs for miles there... even though I just washed her today :-\

I'm thinking she just had very little energy, she lost 3kilos while we were away, she might have not been eating coz we weren't around.. so hopefully she was just running on empty
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on May 09, 2008, 09:55:04 am
Quote
(I know we've already established pixelation is a very pro cat forum)

You better believe it.

That homeless photographer seemed like a nice guy.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on May 09, 2008, 12:49:12 pm
Homeless people.. saw a lot in New York and Vegas, most of them seemed like very abusive crackheads so I didn't exactly sit down for a coffee with one of em.

there are a lot of those types, as well as people with mental disabilities, but the scariest ones to me still are the ones like this photographer fellow, the stone-cold-sober type that's highly educated, perfectly articulate, and whose only difference from the people you'd normally have coffee with is that life sent them some crazy curveballs.



About the dog, my dog chris was doing that a bit when she had a worm, as it was draining a lot.  If the problem persists and she continues to lose weight, you might as your vet about that (and bring stool samples just in case).  I don't know how common this is but it's what my dog had.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Ben2theEdge on May 09, 2008, 01:24:23 pm
on an unrelated note, does anybody keep up with celebrity gossip the way I don't ?  well if you do, you might know that Paris Hilton had a poor neglected cat that was taken away because she abandoned it at the vet.  Three months later, this wonderful cat has found a home, in my new apartment.  I'm just finalizing the paperwork with my friend jordan's mom (whose shelter did the rescuing) and will be picking up little Prada from the airport when she comes to visit her daughter next week.

Tell her to make sure it's been properly disinfected!

*This has been the obligitory paris hilton joke*

So I'm thinking she's got a cramp or something, but on the way back she keeps falling down :(
I was talking to an old guy who had his dog too and he was telling me about how lab's will just keep running even though they should rest, just like they'll keep eating even if they're full.
So I carried her to the nearby vet to make sure everything was alright, at first they thought she might have had a seizure or a stroke, but since it was so gradual and she remained full conscious it didn't fit.
She's fine now, they said to keep an eye on her while she's exercising so I'll take her to the beach soon, she runs for miles there... even though I just washed her today :-\

I'm thinking she just had very little energy, she lost 3kilos while we were away, she might have not been eating coz we weren't around.. so hopefully she was just running on empty

You said it's a lab? My folks have had about 3 laboradors in my lifetime. All of them once they got older started doing the leg-dragging thing, but it was the most severe with their current dog. According to their vet, Labs are prone to hip problems because they have been over bred (like many breeds unfortunately, it's heartbreaking that breeders care more about the animals' appearance then their health)  :( With my parents' dog we just have to be careful now not to let her over-exert herself when she's getting her exercise. 'Cuz yeah like the random old guy said, labs will literally run themselves to death if you let them. (My childhood dog would try to swim in icy rivers in the middle of January) They are born with about 90 percent enthusiasm and 10 percent common sense.

If your dog also lost weight though maybe she was just weak from a lack of energy. Here's hopin'
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on May 09, 2008, 08:42:28 pm
yah I know they're notorious for hip problems, our last dog was a golden retriever and she had pretty severe arthritis towards the end of her life.

I think Jazz will be fine though, we already had her completely checked out when she was really young, nothing indicated inbreeding, and she has a special hammock bed thing so there isn't much stress on her back hips.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on May 10, 2008, 07:06:44 am
I want a dog now, so I can call it Industrial Rock.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on May 10, 2008, 01:20:31 pm
I want a dog who flips out for no reason, makes pig squeals when he barks and immediately thereafter tries to make beautiful howling noises, and has the occasional seizure or two while in the middle of a circle of other dogs, while trying to do a windmill.

I'll call him "Metalcore."    :hehe:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Xion on May 10, 2008, 06:04:22 pm
Jazz
I had a dog named Jazz once,
a long, long time ago.
Good dog. Awesome name.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on May 11, 2008, 11:37:45 pm
lol, there are like a billion and a half more jokes about christ than Mohammad (as he's more recognizable).

one thing i don't get - if there is no legitimate representation of the prophet except in the spoken qur'an, then why would some feeble illustration by a non-believer be an affront to the faith?  the image is, by default, not that of Mohammad (because no true image of him exists in western islam) and therefor it is not to be acknowledged at all, for better or worse.  strange to me.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Cow on May 11, 2008, 11:43:18 pm
Yeah that was pretty funny. :ouch:

Lost my post in the music thread though.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: sharprm on May 12, 2008, 01:51:43 am
Did this happen because Pixelation is just easy to hack or was this site specifically targeted? Maybe the Pixelation member Coran should change his name or avatar to something more appropriate, like Rydin's chain-smoking Jesus.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on May 12, 2008, 02:04:05 am
Guess I totally missed it. What happened again?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on May 12, 2008, 02:06:41 am
several other sites have been attacked as well by the same people. And what they did was nothing particularly hard to fix.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on May 12, 2008, 02:07:49 am
I apparently missed what you guys were talking about, completely? :-\
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Cow on May 12, 2008, 02:10:36 am
Hacked. They also placed God's Curse on us.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on May 12, 2008, 02:20:56 am
I am sure Helm will step in to fend of God's curse if necessary. \m/
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Opacus on May 12, 2008, 02:55:53 pm
What happened here? Seems all the most recent posts were lost too.
Helm made an awesome statement against the gods with red font and goats and all that! It is lost now :(
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Dusty on May 12, 2008, 03:00:57 pm
I couldn't even access the site. I finally can and it seems I've missed something?
That sucks :/
Also, what is God's Curse? I tried googling it and such but all I get is religious-related stuff.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Opacus on May 12, 2008, 03:08:40 pm
I couldn't even access the site. I finally can and it seems I've missed something?
That sucks :/
Also, what is God's Curse? I tried googling it and such but all I get is religious-related stuff.

xD Pixelation got hacked by some douchebags claiming that we depictured Alah and blablabla. More the probably complete bullcrap.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on May 12, 2008, 03:13:48 pm
What happened here? Seems all the most recent posts were lost too.
Helm made an awesome statement against the gods with red font and goats and all that! It is lost now :(

Don't worry, here we go again.

I curse your gods, I spit on your holy book!
I ravage your daughters on his altar and
I let the sanguine floods be sacrament to a different lord below!
World of sickness! Blessed are the sick, to lead life of sin! Blessed are we!


(http://www.locustleaves.com/archgoat.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rosse on May 12, 2008, 03:24:16 pm
We got hacked? Looks like our guardian bruce lee is on vacation!
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: AdamAtomic on May 12, 2008, 03:24:54 pm
*fixed*

Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Malor on May 12, 2008, 11:56:41 pm
zoom is screwy as well  :'(
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on May 13, 2008, 12:03:31 am
I just updated the forum, and because of that zoom and [nozoom] do not work atm, but it will be fixed soonish. Don't cry.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on May 13, 2008, 08:27:21 am
I just went to go throw my socks in the wash and take a piss, and I ended up throwing my socks in the toilet...


I'm going to bed :blind:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Darien on May 13, 2008, 09:26:49 am
just be glad you didn't piss in the wash!   :crazy:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on May 14, 2008, 12:26:03 am
Some socks you *have* to flush after a while...or they get all crusty and stuff.  :hehe:


EDIT:
Totally hit post without putting what I was going to:

It's OFFICIALLY SUMMER for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :P
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: skw on May 14, 2008, 09:45:19 am
(http://jspade.republika.pl/bnc.jpg)

MY DEAR BLACK NINJA COUPÈ HAS BEEN PUT ON SALE AT A SLAVE MARKET!!! :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on May 14, 2008, 01:26:05 pm
Tragedy.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: skw on May 14, 2008, 05:23:54 pm
no, really, it's like giving away your long-time girlfriend or even worse! :)

. . . but now, ladies, I'm a single again! ;)

anyway, I'm thinking of the next ride. Camaro is like an elusive pot of gold at the end of the rainbow (no chance to collect money, you know: cigarettes, beer, women -- everything's so costly!), so more down-to-earth purchase would be a stock Nissan NX (targa coupe! it's quite like a cabrio!) or Honda CRX (140-something HP in a I4 1.6L engine!), but I'll have to tighten my belt for now on. . .

anyone has the pleasure to drive one of the two?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on May 14, 2008, 05:26:43 pm
no, I mean it, I wasn't being ironic.

Steal your women and your cigarettes and beer, this is how you save money.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: skw on May 14, 2008, 05:38:38 pm
that's an interesting point. . . does that work? but, wouldn't be easier to force my women to buy me cigarettes and beer and more women, or better. . . to steal cigarettes and beer and more more women for me? hmm. . . well, I'm going to think about it. :D

I wouldn't accuse you of being ironic. . . NEVER! ;)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on May 14, 2008, 06:29:27 pm
making women work never ends well.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Feron on May 14, 2008, 07:07:43 pm
thats why you should get a whip
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on May 14, 2008, 08:36:29 pm
The vice grips are a real price-saver way to acquire nice whips.  :y:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Froli on May 15, 2008, 08:51:27 am
My mother board got fried 4 days ago...and so I got myself a new computer and it's properly working now. life is good  :)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Atnas on May 17, 2008, 01:41:57 am
For the last three days I've been really sick with a fever and other stuff after a cat scratched me really bad. I've eaten the equivalent of a bowl of cereal over the past three days, and whenever I try to eat, I can't keep it down. I'm so skinny to begin with I think my 3% body fat is going to plummet, if that's possible.

It really sucks being so skinny. I have things pop out like my toes, and even my muscles come out of place like the ones in my neck if I look down then up diagonally really fast. What really sucked was just a few hours ago I sneezed and I could feel my insides in my abdomen shift around, and whatever is right below the bottom of the bottom-most left rib came up in front of it and I had to push it down and back in. It REALLY HURT.  :yell:


As soon as this sickness is gone I'm going to start eating lots of food.

Any diet recommendations?  ;D
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on May 17, 2008, 02:53:04 am
body builders love peanut butter, chicken, and broccoli  :y:


metal slug on virtual console!!! :D
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Conzeit on May 17, 2008, 01:15:03 pm
Feeling a litle hurt right now....like the whole world's afraid to love, to be true....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IBh_5igSYw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0IvGNh4yzo&eurl=http://apps.facebook.com/superwall/view.php?id=806086139&owner_id=612558033

I thought I'd spread this denounce about what goes on in my country
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Opacus on May 17, 2008, 01:49:42 pm
Congrats to Miascugh, Ptoing, Ben2theedge and Terley :D
Lots of birthdays today.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on May 17, 2008, 05:53:26 pm
Ugh. I was gonna make Ptoing an awesome present but I forgot. :(
Happy birthday, ya'll. :crazy:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Faktablad on May 17, 2008, 06:41:43 pm
Punaji got hacked too.  :n:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Xion on May 17, 2008, 07:09:57 pm
Happy berfday all you dudes!


Jeez, seems Punaji's been having a streak of bad luck and woe lately...
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Atnas on May 17, 2008, 07:46:38 pm
Happy Birthday to all four of you.  ;D

Xion, your website is supernatural.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Godslayer on May 18, 2008, 02:42:19 am
Jesus Punaji, stop being dramatic. I hope it comes back up soon. I thought that hacker thing was a joke at first.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on May 18, 2008, 07:01:57 am
 :( My 5 year old step-brother got bit by a rattle-snake at the river today (It was also the first snake he ever caught). He's gonna be okay, though (Or atleast I hope). A ranger was actually on the bridge above us so he got hauled off in an ambulance (and then a really small helicopter).
Last time I saw him he was on so much morphine he just went "hhh" instead of saying hi.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Atnas on May 18, 2008, 10:58:21 am
Quote
:( My 5 year old step-brother got bit by a rattle-snake at the river today (It was also the first snake he ever caught). He's gonna be okay, though (Or atleast I hope). A ranger was actually on the bridge above us so he got hauled off in an ambulance (and then a really small helicopter).
Last time I saw him he was on so much morphine he just went "hhh" instead of saying hi.

That's horrible. But you were snake hunting?  :blind: I hope he gets out alright. I get worried sick over younger relatives, although usually they come out of stuff like this just fine.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Xion on May 18, 2008, 07:40:53 pm
Xion, your website is supernatural.
Er, thanks?

Hope your bro's alright Sherm.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: huZba on May 19, 2008, 04:48:02 pm
http://www.blublu.org/sito/video/muto.htm
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on May 19, 2008, 09:04:21 pm
Yeah, that thing is insane.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Atnas on May 19, 2008, 09:21:06 pm
I wonder how much all the materials cost.  ;D
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on May 19, 2008, 10:08:54 pm
I wonder how much all the materials cost.  ;D

probably not too much, it looks just like chalk or whitewash.  it's the time spent not only working, but making sure you weren't going to get bullied that would be the tough part (of production).
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: skw on May 19, 2008, 10:29:57 pm
hehe, sure, nd!

I saw Fantoche some time ago, quite impressing, yeah, but this one just killed me. . . didn't know the whole thing is 6 minutes and a half. this dude is just goddamn crazy!

no, really. . . that must-a been a hell-a effort, I can't imagine how much patience one must have to complete such an arduous project. . . I wonder also how long it took him/them? -- it does look like done throughout just one day, maybe two, but I wouldn't believe it.

were they beaten up? ;)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: AdamAtomic on May 20, 2008, 02:01:37 pm
Try searching the forum next time.  5th result in a forum-wide search for cookies:  http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?topic=4272.msg57739#msg57739
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Opacus on May 20, 2008, 02:28:21 pm
I recently found out I had a whopping 16.8 gigs of temporary files. Aren't temporary files supossed to be...well...temporary?
(Too much lesbian pr0n I guess)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on May 20, 2008, 04:40:40 pm
set your browser to auto-purge and your computer will run much faster.  Connection speeds are so high that there's hardly any need for temp files after each session is done.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on May 20, 2008, 08:30:57 pm
So, I ended up on a Japanese website, and decided to try and navigate it :P. Well, after a while I ended up on a Pixel Art BBS
http://may.levtex.net/cgi/levbbs/lev-bbs.cgi?bid=bbs1=&skin=skin/default/=/cgi/levbbs/skin/default/&style=0
Alot of it is mediocre but theres some good stuff on there :).
(http://may.levtex.net/cgi/levbbs/data/bbs1/115619411233620/000254.gif)(http://may.levtex.net/cgi/levbbs/data/bbs1/1187225544422033/gwendolyn.gif)

(Also, to go to the other pages hit the drop down, choose one, and hit go. Arrows don't seem to do anything.)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on May 20, 2008, 08:42:34 pm
^_^
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on May 20, 2008, 10:02:02 pm
That selout makes my eyes hurt ( ; 3 ;)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Atnas on May 20, 2008, 10:05:53 pm
Japanese Pixel art boards are always a blast. They always call it "Dot", which amuses me. (Such as their equivalent to "Home" is "Top", "Pixel" is "Dot".)

It seems like the majority of Japanese pixel artists are better than the majority of English speaking ones, however they don't have those few pixel gods you see in English communities.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on May 20, 2008, 10:10:23 pm
It seems like the majority of Japanese pixel artists are better than the majority of English speaking ones, however they don't have those few pixel gods you see in English communities.
They all seem to work very similarly too. Selout, no dithering, relatively linear color ramps.
Kinda weird that way ???
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on May 20, 2008, 10:29:11 pm
A thought on that, based on no evidence, just empirical observation: The Japanese are a very workmanship-based culture, they will emulate from videogames and anime a lot. This means the average quality of their pixel art is better than the average quality in the west, yet they do not have as many distinctive top artists, and they mostly appear to be drawing the same thing, in the same way.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on May 20, 2008, 10:38:13 pm
Fear the hive-mind!
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Atnas on May 20, 2008, 10:41:10 pm
A thought on that, based on no evidence, just empirical observation: The Japanese are a very workmanship-based culture, they will emulate from videogames and anime a lot. This means the average quality of their pixel art is better than the average quality in the west, yet they do not have as many distinctive top artists, and they mostly appear to be drawing the same thing, in the same way.

True, I don't think there's a single original character on the boards Sherman Gill posted.

You can never go wrong with Yoko, though. (http://may.levtex.net/cgi/levbbs/data/bbs1/1175254076218921/A_yoko.gif)  :P
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on May 20, 2008, 11:27:09 pm
I like how knees on girls are probably too ugly for the people that maintain this uniform anime style, so they decided to completely omit them. Then you take a european artist like Milo Manara ...

(http://www.locustleaves.com/ManaraIndians.jpg)

... and see that knees are actually one of the most sensual parts of the female form for some.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on May 20, 2008, 11:44:30 pm
Mmm... I like how Jen Wang (http://www.jenwang.net/) draws legs.
(http://www.jenwang.net/art/images/eggplant.jpg)
(http://www.jenwang.net/art/images/sweetattacksm.jpg)
Actually, I like how Jen Wang draws everything. Seriously.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Atnas on May 21, 2008, 12:04:14 am
I like the kitty in this picture.  ;D

(http://www.jenwang.net/art/images/birthdaysm.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on May 21, 2008, 12:40:59 am
Helm, Ptoing. I love you guys. And I love Thrustburst. I am fucking addicted already.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on May 21, 2008, 12:44:17 am
:)  ;D ;) ::) :P :hehe: :lol: :blind:

however, send some love towards Fuzzpilz, because he coded the thing and that's 99% of the work!
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on May 21, 2008, 12:54:54 am
Fuzzpilz, I love you guy,
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on May 21, 2008, 04:43:32 am
Just looking at one screenshot I could tell Helm and Ptoing were behind Thrustburst (http://umlautgames.net/thrustburst/downloads)

way to go guys :y:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Cow on May 21, 2008, 04:52:12 am
Yeah I'm enjoying it lots so far. I'm no good, but I'll get better I promise. :-*
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on May 21, 2008, 05:03:00 am
... and see that knees are actually one of the most sensual parts of the female form for some.


My tastes have changed with a few things, mostly age and a girl named lauren oswald.  i still like ballerinas a lot, but i've also developed a fondness for a slightly more curvy form of beauty:

(http://xs127.xs.to/xs127/08213/girl693.png)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on May 21, 2008, 05:19:55 am
This conversation is going farther and farther from here to there :o.
Though I think 90% of what determines whether I find a girl attractive is the shape of her face, personally :-\.
(http://lorne.lastchancemedia.com/Images/two/fromPerfectStars.jpg)
(from Perfect Stars (http://www.perfectstars.com/))
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: skw on May 21, 2008, 06:56:53 am
Helm, Ptoing. I love you guys. And I love Thrustburst. I am vucking addicted already.
WOW! THE GAME ROX ASS! it's getting pretty damn hard, tho! :D
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Feron on May 21, 2008, 09:51:51 am
Maths Mechanics A-level exam in 3 hours  :-X
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Cow on May 22, 2008, 01:29:36 am
(http://static.metal-archives.com/images/8/8/1/881_photo.jpg)

o_o

Look at the guy in the back. It lines up too perfectly. It's like pixel art but with jpeg artifacts.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on May 22, 2008, 01:33:58 am
Why hello, Psychotic Waltz.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Godslayer on May 22, 2008, 01:40:33 am
secret pixel-being?

That game is sweet, I like the colors. The sounds are excellent as well, especially typing noises.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on May 22, 2008, 02:19:39 am
it has been said that a thousand webusers mindlessly compressing image files for eternity will one day produce a cleanly pixelled image.

cleanly pixelled image? cleanly pixeled image?  clean pixel image?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: skw on May 22, 2008, 11:53:41 am
haha, square jaw, that's it!

Quote from: ndchristie
it has been said that a thousand webusers mindlessly compressing image files for eternity will one day produce a cleanly pixelled image.
almost surely. infinite pixel theorem?

Quote from: ndchristie
cleanly pixelled image? cleanly pixeled image?  clean pixel image?
the first one is especially British, the second: apparently AmE or both. well, it's just a theory.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rox on May 22, 2008, 04:13:15 pm
Hay guys. Yeh, I'm still alive. My computer asploded while I was doing some internship at a freaky game company up here. I'm done with that 3D education that had been stalling my 2D stuffs now, so yay for that, right? But now I'm stalled by not having a computer or a job. I'm taking advantage of being at school for a little while longer, since I do have a computer here. But my future is uncertain... In two days, I'll go back home to an apartment where I have no 360, no computer and where I can't seem to receive any channels on my TV...

I need a job... and I've missed this place!
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: philipptr on May 22, 2008, 11:39:19 pm


NO MEDAL FOR 1337N355?? ZOMFG! :'(
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Conzeit on May 23, 2008, 01:52:07 am
(http://static.metal-archives.com/images/8/8/1/881_photo.jpg)

o_o

Look at the guy in the back. It lines up too perfectly. It's like pixel art but with jpeg artifacts.

NAAAAAAAAH

my theory is quite the botchy program was used to resize, therefore it just chopped off big chunks of the guy's face leaving that sqaurish look.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Cow on May 24, 2008, 04:50:41 pm
The pixel gods just wanted to throw us a bone and you insist on your science. Ingrate.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: PyroPiranha on May 24, 2008, 06:43:09 pm
Hello strangers
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on May 24, 2008, 07:17:29 pm
OMFG
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Xion on May 24, 2008, 09:37:00 pm
Hello strangers
hello stranger...

...

 :o
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: alkaline on May 24, 2008, 11:55:14 pm
You look familiar.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Faktablad on May 25, 2008, 05:32:05 pm
Tripppyyyyyyy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAwR6w2TgxY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAwR6w2TgxY)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Anything! on May 25, 2008, 06:28:38 pm
Dudeeee. o:

Hey, hey, hey-- Are you allowed to bumpdate if your topic is still in the first page?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on May 25, 2008, 06:30:47 pm
If it's a significant update I don't think it's a problem. In fact I've done it quite a few times before :hehe:.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Anything! on May 25, 2008, 06:37:29 pm
I get in trouble, I point to you.   :D
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on May 25, 2008, 11:47:22 pm
Bumpdates are fine whenever pretty much, unless you doublepost.
Doubleposting with an update is fine too tho, if your thread is a bit further down and it has been a while since you updated it.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on May 26, 2008, 02:21:04 am
saw the new indi flick yesterday.
I thought it was pretty good, but you might need to remind yourself it's an action movie for the whole family.
A few points that best sum up my thoughts:
Tickets cost almost $20 here and I didn't feel ripped off.
Perfect length with good pacing, no scene dragged on, no scene was too short, and I never looked at my watch.
One of my friends can't help but point out every little illogical thing in movies, and everything he pointed out in indi- the movie quickly righted itself in the next 30 seconds.

and I haven't seen any of the first 3 indi movies, so that might mean something to you.
Going to see them once my store finally gets them in (we don't have any of them lol)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on May 26, 2008, 02:22:39 am
We have karma ratings now! ??? ;D
If it's what I think it is (award for indepth criticism) there should be a way to view which posts gave karma on a person's profile :P.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on May 26, 2008, 02:25:41 am
Heh, karma is usually a horrible idea at forums but I think it might actually work here
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Willows on May 26, 2008, 02:30:28 am
It seems to be blessings and strikes. Not just anyone can dish out anything...

I can understand the use of a visual tracking for strikes, but why anything resembling blessings?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on May 26, 2008, 02:43:10 am
I say the Karma thing is just there, and doesn't serve any real purpose, other than having people constantly trying to figure out what it does.

The mods are playing mind games with you guys, MIND GAMES!
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on May 26, 2008, 02:53:28 am
I guess this was implemented due to smikers recent topic, looks like this system came about so the staff could keep track of who's where more easily.


if my sprites get ripped, do I earn praise? :D
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: skw on May 26, 2008, 06:21:17 am
YUPPIE-KAY-YAY! KARMA POINTS! :) OUR FRESH BAKED POLISH MAFIA SYNDICATE WILL DRINK TO THAT:

(http://jspade.republika.pl/aku.jpg)

:-X
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Panda on May 26, 2008, 06:28:01 am
The karma stuff was added so the mods and admins can keep track of who has strikes in a more efficient way.
You won't earn cookies (or whatever the good karma part is called) for random crap like what .TakaM mentioned.  :mean:
Only for things that benefit the community, I guess.

Practically the system is just so you feel the ban clock ticking next to you  >:D
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on May 26, 2008, 06:52:35 am
May I have some bad karma right off the bat for that whole underdog/badass image I want so badly?   :hehe:


But no, karma should be interesting.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Feron on May 27, 2008, 10:24:53 pm
I think ptoing should get a +1 for running this place with such german efficiency....
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on May 27, 2008, 10:37:16 pm
Asslicker :D

Actually the - stuff is strikes and the + is cookies. Which you get for giving good critique and such. cookies can also be used to kill off strikes. But if you get a strike all the cookies get taken away from you and you have to start from 0!

All in all it is just an easier way for us to deal with strikes as well as encouraging (hopefully) to make good crits.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Feron on May 27, 2008, 11:00:45 pm
do i not get a cookie for asslicking?

Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on May 28, 2008, 01:22:37 am
No, strikes are more likely. No ass-patting on Pixelation  >:( This place is serious  >:( Not where you make friends  :yell: You hear me?  :mean: I am serious  :ouch:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Godslayer on May 28, 2008, 01:51:48 am
Friends distract one from art.

The time I took to write this, I took away from pixels. I stole it from them. Who knows what retribution they have in mind?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: AdamAtomic on May 28, 2008, 04:04:12 pm
I am the worst moderator evar - or at least this must be the worst 1000th post (http://adamatomic.com/pics/worst_1000th_post_ever.png) by a moderator evar.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on May 28, 2008, 04:45:58 pm
hahaha
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Crow on May 28, 2008, 06:31:23 pm
Using the karma system for this is a cool idea, but I think the display should be changed, so it is "Cookies: X" and "Strikes: Y". That really shouldn't be hard, I'm pretty sure I can get this done in pretty short time although I've only looked at SMF once so far. And maybe some small tweaks here and there, that the cookies get killed automatically when adding a strike ;f

Edit: Oyea, Adam: I think that's actually a pretty badass 1000th post, fits very nicely :crazy:
Title: Beyond Good and Evil 2
Post by: Ben2theEdge on May 29, 2008, 03:55:22 am
Has anyone seen the screenshots Ubisoft released from Beyond Good and Evil 2?
(http://www.psxextreme.com/images/common/News/bgande2_01.jpg)

I am absolutely heartbroken. They took one of the most beautiful games ever made and pissed all over it. Remember how stylish and atmospheric the original was?
(http://archive.gamespy.com/previews/september03/beyondmulti/26.jpg)
(http://archive.gamespy.com/previews/september03/beyondmulti/32.jpg)

I am so frustrated with this trend in mainstrain gaming where every game has to look exactly the same - gritty, sunbleached, photorealistic and monochrome. It was bad enough with new IPs, now that they're going back and ruining OLD games, it's even worse. I would rather have one more game with art direction as beautiful as the first BG&G than a thousand more normal-mapped, depth-blurred, same-looking clones. What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Cow on May 29, 2008, 04:08:49 am
I don't know why everyone's being so bitchy about it, I think it looks great and is a fresh take on the character. Though I usually agree about ugly bleh brown I really think it works nicely here.

Plus I'm stoked, Beyond Good and Evil 2 wooooooo. :) First one was a masterpiece, no question.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: chriskot on May 29, 2008, 04:38:32 am
I never had the pleasure of playing the original "Beyond Good and Evil" (I will someday), but I agree 100% that the way games are trending towards to the gritty, gray and brown look is absolutely awful. Off the top of my head, I can't think of a single one of those games that wouldn't benefit from some creative art direction or an extra little splash of colour. Super Mario Galaxy had some of my favourite graphics in recent gaming, mostly because of how awesomely vibrant everything was.

The state of game graphics today is disappointing to me in a way. My precious Wii is stuck with last-gen games for the most part because several companies keep trying to squeeze extra cash out by dumbing down the games to PS2-playable level while they're at it (and many of the others are half-assed minigame compilations, but that's irrelevant). On the other hand, most PS3 and 360 developers believe that they need to make "realistic games" with the extra power, resulting in a really boring colour scheme. So much wasted potential for everyone.

Sigh.

GAMES THAT I THINK ARE GETTING IT RIGHT:

Lostwinds (just nice overall)
(http://www.gameinformer.com/NR/rdonlyres/1AE48B01-0846-4156-B50A-01D265D95D18/15573/lostwinds07.jpg)

Team Fortress 2 (this is what you could be doing with those fancy shaders!)
(http://randomfu.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/tf2lr1.jpg)

Super Mario Galaxy (colour everywhere!!)
(http://www.dignews.com/admin/screenshoot/super_mario_galaxy_10.jpg)

Okami (creative art direction = win)
(http://modetwo.net/users/nachimir/vga/media/okami-002.jpg)

Crysis (proof that realism doesn't have to be drab)
(http://www.ugo.com/games/halo-3-killers/images/crysis.jpg)

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR!!

...Or at least what I'm looking for. Here ends my rant. I'll let someone else go.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on May 29, 2008, 05:08:12 am
Beyond Good and Evil was the last game of the old ubisoft if you ask me.
Now they are basically just EA, absolutely no one will be surprised when they join.

What pisses me off though is that the first beyond good and evil had the best sales on the gamecube, and I remember reading that if it were an exclusive it would most likely have been a success.
If BG&E2 and the new banjo game turn out good (I highly doubt it) I'll buy a 360


p.s.
Lost Winds rocks.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: tocky on May 29, 2008, 05:51:28 am
Those Beyond Good and Evil screens are depressing. I suspect the game is will still be great, though, because they'lll have to make it great even just to sell it to people. It's not like they can sell it on the success of the previous game, because that game, for all it's awesome, wasn't a commercial success. So I'm still keen to play it, even though it is ugly.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Xion on May 29, 2008, 06:21:48 am
I pretty much agree with Cow. Sure, gritty, brown games are, I think, too abundant (My brother and I are having a very hard time finding a game for the 360 that will cheer us up), but with BG&E2 I don't think it looks so bad. Just as long as they haven't boobified Jade, and ther're some places in the game with character, and the story's awesome, and the gameplay's awesome, I'm fine.

While I mentioned it, what 360 games can you guys suggest that are funny and fun?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Dusty on May 29, 2008, 06:29:26 am
Sadly it's what the market has degenerated to.

I was playing SotC a while ago and my brother-in-law said it'd be a good game if the graphics weren't so terrible. It might not be as stylistic as the games pictured above, but it all just screams art to me and it saddens me the average gamer these days can't see it.
Just like Zelda: TP. Sure, it was tailored for last gen(Gamecube), but I thought the graphics were amazingly beautiful... yet all the reviews griped on how they expected more from the graphics.

Anyways, games will continue to churn out the same brown, gritty graphics because that's what impresses the average gamer. Financially, I guess it would be smarter to cater to the majority of gamers that want nothing but more polygons, instead of those who value the actual artistic feel of the game.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on May 29, 2008, 06:56:37 am
I pretty much agree with Cow. Sure, gritty, brown games are, I think, too abundant (My brother and I are having a very hard time finding a game for the 360 that will cheer us up), but with BG&E2 I don't think it looks so bad. Just as long as they haven't boobified Jade, and ther're some places in the game with character, and the story's awesome, and the gameplay's awesome, I'm fine.

While I mentioned it, what 360 games can you guys suggest that are funny and fun?
viva pinata is a lot of fun, I was truly surprised that my friends really got into that game.
But considering how starved they are for colour..
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: chriskot on May 29, 2008, 03:59:12 pm
p.s.
Lost Winds rocks.
Agreed. I was hoping it would have been a bit longer though.

I was playing SotC a while ago and my brother-in-law said it'd be a good game if the graphics weren't so terrible. It might not be as stylistic as the games pictured above, but it all just screams art to me and it saddens me the average gamer these days can't see it.
Just like Zelda: TP. Sure, it was tailored for last gen(Gamecube), but I thought the graphics were amazingly beautiful... yet all the reviews griped on how they expected more from the graphics.
Twilight Princess was another gorgeous game. The normal world was bright and colourful while the Twilight had an awesome sort of surreal visual fluidity (for lack of a better description). SotC wasn't as colourful most of the time, but it didn't need to be to be a very pretty game. Unless your brother-in-law was comparing it to modern PS3 or 360 games (or PC games), I can't see how anyone could consider its graphics bad. They're still some of the best from last gen.

While we're on the topic of graphics in new games, what does everyone thinking of the art direction for MadWorld for the Wii? For those of you that haven't seen it, the folks at Platinum are trying to get around the Wii's lack of power by creating an ultra-violent, comic book-style game with only three colours: black, white, and red for the copious amounts of blood.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: huZba on May 29, 2008, 06:08:35 pm
From what i gather, platinum games is mostly the guys who made Okami, right?
All their 3 upcoming games seem to have some unique qualities to them and MadWorld looks very interesting so far. I hope they can give it personality other than just the violence part, which i'm sure they can pull off(like god hand).

As for beyond good and evil 2, i wouldn't be too concerned about them street credifying it too much. The teaser was quite colorful for a desert anyway and pigs are supposed to be dirty. What little it showed about Jade, she looked the way she used to be.
The new prince of persia is quite colorful and stylish with the halfway toonshading and stroke around the characters. Creeping evil black stuff is getting old i think, but we'll see. Oh and the concept art is spectacular.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on May 29, 2008, 06:14:03 pm
yeah i can only assume that he was talking about how jaggy the characters were up close, or how occasionally the darks got hella muddy.  graphics =/= atmosphere though and SotC definitely has atmosphere.

I personally loved viva pinata, but i'm a sucker for color, and cuteness.

as far as MadWord, the screenshots say it all.  They need to need to need to get their shaders sorted and look at the inspiration.  When you look at comic books, at least, the good ones, there's usually a figure on a ground no matter how you spin it.  even as busy as they come (http://"http://www.artdetails.com/images/Moebius/al_Moebius007_Venise_Celeste.jpg") you still have a bright character against a dark ground.  sure, there's a LOT of meaningless grit involved too (as in many art forms), but when i look at their screens, i don't have a clue what's going on or what the action is.  It's a bold move but it's going to fail visually if they don't put some more effort in.

I always thought the metroid series was visually interesting, if less inspired or stylish than most.

supposedly miyamoto is interested in continuing pikmin in the next few years, that would make me happy :)

i tend to look to handhelds for color because you need so much of it to even see the screens well.  They still have the same deficiencies that all the old platofrm had (mostly because all of their games are drawn similarly to those of the old platforms) but at least they aren't gritty and ugly.

...unless it's The World Ends With You, which is Squaresoft's way of saying "Suck it, we can live off of ports and shitty games FOREVER as long as we've got Cloud and Sora" (to be fair, their other new games, trite and tedious as they are, are cute and colorful).

new prince of persia looks good - DAMNIT huZba you beat me to it!

one thing 'm not convinced of those is that we're in a recession.  Has there ever been a time period where more than a handful of beautful games were breaking into the market?  it's easy to look back on 20 years of games and cry about the new ones...but there has always been the ugly mainstream and the rare few pretties.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Godslayer on May 30, 2008, 01:34:06 am
Does anyone know why Punaji hasnt been restored yet? I know David wanted to close it, but the community didnt seem to be in favor, whats going on? Anyone talked to thei'in the know' crowd?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on May 30, 2008, 02:03:19 am
I'm guessing it isn't coming back up: " Please send all inquiries regarding purchasing this domain to people@punaji.com "
Such a shame. Was a good site.

In other news, I read some 19 year old gamer was just made Mayor of Muskogee, Oklahoma. That is effin' awesome in my book. Apparently, he was running against some old 70 year old fart. Hopefully, this kid will bring some positive light back into politics.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Dusty on May 30, 2008, 02:09:07 am
So... without giving anyone a heart-attack, what is Punaji? Er... well, was, Punaji.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Cow on May 30, 2008, 02:09:40 am
Does anyone know why Punaji hasnt been restored yet? I know David wanted to close it, but the community didnt seem to be in favor, whats going on? Anyone talked to thei'in the know' crowd?
David's just being a lazy bum I think. At least that's what was implied when I talked to him last.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on May 30, 2008, 02:37:23 am
So... without giving anyone a heart-attack, what is Punaji? Er... well, was, Punaji.

it's another pixel board with a smaller but more dedicated userbase (in the sense that the same person would typically move from one personal thread and crits to the next without as much "down time" as you find around here), and because the userbase is smaller, most people there are familiar with what most others around them are doing recently.  I don't know what it's relationship to pixelation is, whether it was an offshoot, unrelated, or somewhere in between, but it is a younger board and most of the punaji crowd are somehow or another also known here.
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Post by: Panda on May 30, 2008, 07:11:57 am
Looking forward to Rhythm Tengoku GOLD this summer.
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Post by: .TakaM on May 30, 2008, 12:42:47 pm
In other news, I read some 19 year old gamer was just made Mayor of Muskogee, Oklahoma. That is effin' awesome in my book. Apparently, he was running against some old 70 year old fart. Hopefully, this kid will bring some positive light back into politics.
Yeah I heard about that.
I haven't read into it, but I'd put my money on he isn't that much of a gamer.. the press will just be trying to make people panic and setting the ground work in case he messes up
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Post by: big brother on May 30, 2008, 03:27:22 pm
As for beyond good and evil 2, i wouldn't be too concerned about them street credifying it too much. The teaser was quite colorful for a desert anyway and pigs are supposed to be dirty. What little it showed about Jade, she looked the way she used to be.

It's not so much about color, but about the ridiculous "stubble and pore" approach that's so popular with 3d modeling these days (propagated in part by Pixar). It's the fastest way to make something look unappealing and uninspired. Often it serves as a distraction from the piece lacking fundamental principles like composition, contrasting forms, negative space, etc.

Quote
The new prince of persia is quite colorful and stylish with the halfway toonshading and stroke around the characters. Creeping evil black stuff is getting old i think, but we'll see. Oh and the concept art is spectacular.

Gahhh, I hate Ubi and all they represent. The designers probably pitched this game wanting to make a Square Enix clone, but management wouldn't green-light it until they slapped one of their licenses on it. The character design is ludicrous -- scarf and vest with a bare chest is an atrocity worthy of the Akihiko Yoshida. With a little Ninja Gaiden thrown in. Ubi's notorious for copying off other art directors.
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Post by: Godslayer on May 30, 2008, 11:28:53 pm
I'm guessing it isn't coming back up: " Please send all inquiries regarding purchasing this domain to people@punaji.com "
Such a shame. Was a good site.

In other news, I read some 19 year old gamer was just made Mayor of Muskogee, Oklahoma. That is effin' awesome in my book. Apparently, he was running against some old 70 year old fart. Hopefully, this kid will bring some positive light back into politics.

But... I loved punaji. Someone get him on the line.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Cow on May 31, 2008, 02:46:49 am
As for beyond good and evil 2, i wouldn't be too concerned about them street credifying it too much. The teaser was quite colorful for a desert anyway and pigs are supposed to be dirty. What little it showed about Jade, she looked the way she used to be.

It's not so much about color, but about the ridiculous "stubble and pore" approach that's so popular with 3d modeling these days (propagated in part by Pixar). It's the fastest way to make something look unappealing and uninspired. Often it serves as a distraction from the piece lacking fundamental principles like composition, contrasting forms, negative space, etc.
I don't think it's a "distraction" as such, I think it's just a logical progression. Games began with broad strokes and a lot of implied things, and as the technology's progressed the more minute and vestigial things are added. I'm not instantly instilled with hatred when it occurs but it's definitely a case-by-case thing.
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Post by: ndchristie on May 31, 2008, 04:18:42 am
As for beyond good and evil 2, i wouldn't be too concerned about them street credifying it too much. The teaser was quite colorful for a desert anyway and pigs are supposed to be dirty. What little it showed about Jade, she looked the way she used to be.

It's not so much about color, but about the ridiculous "stubble and pore" approach that's so popular with 3d modeling these days (propagated in part by Pixar). It's the fastest way to make something look unappealing and uninspired. Often it serves as a distraction from the piece lacking fundamental principles like composition, contrasting forms, negative space, etc.
I don't think it's a "distraction" as such, I think it's just a logical progression. Games began with broad strokes and a lot of implied things, and as the technology's progressed the more minute and vestigial things are added. I'm not instantly instilled with hatred when it occurs but it's definitely a case-by-case thing.

i don't think it's progression so much as cyclic.  all trends go back and forth (remember in the 90's when we were all like look at those retarded tight pants our parents wore and how we never would?).  there will always be outliers and there will always be change and it wont always be what we like :\
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Post by: Froli on May 31, 2008, 10:46:49 am
Mgs4 is forcing me to get a ps3. I can't resist the temptation  :P
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Post by: Evil-Ville on May 31, 2008, 12:27:00 pm
as far as MadWord, the screenshots say it all.  They need to need to need to get their shaders sorted and look at the inspiration.  When you look at comic books, at least, the good ones, there's usually a figure on a ground no matter how you spin it.  even as busy as they come (http://"http://www.artdetails.com/images/Moebius/al_Moebius007_Venise_Celeste.jpg") you still have a bright character against a dark ground.  sure, there's a LOT of meaningless grit involved too (as in many art forms), but when i look at their screens, i don't have a clue what's going on or what the action is.  It's a bold move but it's going to fail visually if they don't put some more effort in.

Here's a link that actually works http://www.artdetails.com/images/Moebius/al_Moebius007_Venise_Celeste.jpg
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Post by: Helm on May 31, 2008, 02:31:49 pm
Hello. I did a video longplay of Flashback. Watch here if you desire. There isn't much talk about pixel art, as this isn't directed at us, but everyone. I hope it's halfway entertaining. Bear with the hilariously bad-idea captions on top in the first video, I come to my senses by the second one.

http://www.vimeo.com/user470672/videos
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Post by: Feron on May 31, 2008, 03:36:18 pm
just watched the first level, quite enjoyable.

however i was more fixated by the beautiful background art... i think it should be nominated for the next Commercial Critique...
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on May 31, 2008, 04:34:18 pm
This was actually the first commercial critique on oldschool blue pixelation I think, heh :P
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Post by: HughSpectrum on May 31, 2008, 07:30:38 pm
Where you mention the Morph planet uses "warm colors for foreground and cool colors for background", I notice they used green for an in-between.
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Post by: Froli on May 31, 2008, 08:00:01 pm
Helm, have you thought of making a voice over version [with a british accent haha]? It's kinda distracting reading and watching the critique at the same time  :) I think that would make it better. Or probably I'm used to Youtube gaming reviews.
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Post by: Xion on May 31, 2008, 09:02:44 pm
Heh, I managed to make it to earth in Flashback with lots of savestating and couldn't beat all those cops you need to beat to open that first door. So I quat. (past tense of quit.)
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Post by: ptoing on May 31, 2008, 09:37:02 pm
[with a british accent haha]

Hahaha, I can not imagine Helm speaking with a british accent ever. :D
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: skw on June 02, 2008, 09:57:55 pm
Quote from: Froli
Helm, have you thought of making a voice over version [with a british accent haha]? It's kinda distracting reading and watching the critique at the same time  :)
it's well-prepared in overall but yes, I had to pause it ever so often to follow the critique. sharing it!

heheh, I think I've once heard Helm growling with a slight British accent, right?! :P
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on June 02, 2008, 10:27:09 pm
If by slight British accent you mean heavy Greek accent, then yes, possibly.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: skw on June 02, 2008, 11:18:10 pm
no, by slight British accent I mean heavy yet intelligible roaring growl gibberish and a slight British accent. and though it was not Cockney, Scouse or Geordie either, it was totally British by all means. ;)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sohashu on June 03, 2008, 01:20:47 am
Just in the middle of watching the flashback videos, and I must say, it is quite a spiffing game from the looks of things.  I like the design of everything, and it looks like it'd play quite well.  Then again, i think thats just Helm.
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Post by: .TakaM on June 03, 2008, 01:58:46 am
Hello. I did a video longplay of Flashback. Watch here if you desire. There isn't much talk about pixel art, as this isn't directed at us, but everyone. I hope it's halfway entertaining. Bear with the hilariously bad-idea captions on top in the first video, I come to my senses by the second one.

http://www.vimeo.com/user470672/videos
It's called a "Let's Play" ;)
You guys should check out the LP section at the something awful forums (http://forums.somethingawful.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=191) if you wanna watch some other games being played too.
The Metroid Prime Megathread is pretty cool, he knows the games and a lot of the tricks well.

unrelated:
(http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6749/1211223392154uq0.jpg)
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Post by: Helm on June 03, 2008, 02:37:07 am
LP can be a 'Let's Play' but since I haven't made a thread in SA for it or anything, I am using the term 'Longplay' since essentially that's what it is. I am not having any audience participation or anything, I am playing through the game, showing all it has to show, that's a longplay too, right? Search youtube for 'longplay' for more of this.

Anyway, thanks, I hope you liked. I wasn't going to do a voiceover version because I have a heavy accent that would distract quite a bit, I think.
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Post by: .TakaM on June 03, 2008, 02:58:06 am
You should hear some of the accents on SA, most of the time it's the main reason they're popular :P
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Post by: ndchristie on June 03, 2008, 03:40:47 am
i had it for dos and i must say i think there were a number of things added in the genesis port, i don't remember for example nearly so many cutscenes.  I also think i had trouble with that jump right inside the second part >.< (though obviously moved past it..)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on June 03, 2008, 04:48:41 am
You should hear some of the accents on SA, most of the time it's the main reason they're popular :P

I on the other hand cannot stand Psychedelic Eyeball for more than 5 seconds.
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Post by: Darien on June 04, 2008, 08:43:32 am
I only watched the first video for now, but I'm surprised at both how much I don't remember and how much subtle detail in this game I didn't get.  I know I had to resort to a walkthrough several times in the game.

But I blame the rest of the game industry for my ineptitude, for not preparing me to expect such attention to detail!  Seriously, I can't remember the last game I played with genuinely creative and designed puzzles.  In most games with flaunted puzzle elements I rarely think about what I'm doing.  The Zelda games are good example--I hardly ever have to stop and think about how to get a door open, I just do what I was trained to do, that is, place a rock on a button tile, light this torch, shoot this eyeball thing.  I often "solve" a puzzle without realizing I'm supposed to be solving one, or without any thought about where I am trying to go or what I am trying to do.  It's not that the puzzles are too easy.  I'd accept that--it is supposed to be a widely accessible game.  But it's like they're not even there.
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Post by: Mirre on June 04, 2008, 03:05:43 pm
Darien; if you like challenging puzzle games then maybe you should try the Professor Layton or Phoenix Wright/Gyakuten Saiban games? They have great puzzle solving, where you actually have to stop and think to go on.
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Post by: ndchristie on June 04, 2008, 03:35:55 pm
I know I had to resort to a walkthrough several times in the game.

I was too young to know there was such a thing, the first walkthrough i had was Prima's official Pokemon Red and Blue guide :P

yay ninth birthday!
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Post by: Helm on June 04, 2008, 04:44:19 pm
I'd like to see this generation's of gamers tackle the Cryo adventure game, KGB.

(http://www.locustleaves.com/KGB1.png)

(http://www.locustleaves.com/KGB2.png)

You're used to your adventure games patronising you, insulting your intelligence. KGB does the exact opposite. You're supposed to be a russian undercover agent, you better think like one, or it's constant game over, yet it's never idiotic or counter-intuitive. Do try it.
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Post by: Darien on June 05, 2008, 12:46:44 am
I had tried that a while ago when I was getting into adventure games!  I remember I was enjoying it, but I stopped early on for some reason that I can't remember.  I should try it again.
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Post by: .TakaM on June 05, 2008, 02:10:40 am
Or try zack and wiki on the wii, some of the puzzles are devilish
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on June 07, 2008, 05:08:37 pm
So my friend's mom just asked him "how she could buy more internets?"


yay.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Atnas on June 07, 2008, 05:14:11 pm
My mom says "oh noes" and "what happen".
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Post by: .TakaM on June 08, 2008, 09:20:45 am
New Futurama movie is out :y:

edit-
Overall, a similar experience to Benders Big Score, the movie is still paced so it can cleanly be cut up into episodes- which I still don't think is that big a deal for a straight to dvd 'movie'
Pretty much every joke hits the mark, no real swing and misses.

Also, it's really neat to see the cool little products they come up with for the show, it would be a fun job just coming up with those ideas for futurama
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: skw on June 08, 2008, 12:28:30 pm
YAHOO! BITE MY SHINY METAL ASS!

http://fabulously40.com/article/2313/Taking-A-Woman-To-Bed/ (http://fabulously40.com/article/2313/Taking-A-Woman-To-Bed/)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on June 09, 2008, 02:51:02 am
*sigh*

There's got to be a way to combine the instantaneous, mind-expanding qualities of the internet with the serene, soul-expanding joys of outside.


 :sigh:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on June 09, 2008, 02:57:03 am
Laptop and Wifi. But to be honest, when I am outside I need no internet.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: skw on June 09, 2008, 02:57:19 pm
yes, mobile web. but that's something I'd never use. or find useful. what for?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on June 09, 2008, 03:13:56 pm
yeah, going outside, especially somewhere you've never been, is more mind-expanding than a thousand webpages or books.  just ask Wordsworth and Thoreau.
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Post by: JJ Naas on June 09, 2008, 03:45:48 pm
yeah, going outside, especially somewhere you've never been, is more mind-expanding than a thousand webpages or books.  just ask Wordsworth and Thoreau.

"The use of travelling is to regulate imagination by reality, and instead of thinking how things may be, to see them as they are."
-Samuel Johnson


Of course some people may travel and NOT see anything, depending on their mind set. Or only see bad things, or in a negative way, or in terms of comparing how inferior everything is compared to how awesome things are back home.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: skw on June 09, 2008, 04:37:11 pm
the funny thing is that Wordsworth, known for his loving of nature and sentimental ventures at autumn lakes of the Lake District, caught cold and died of pneumonia.

Quote from: William Wordsworth: "Tintern Abbey" (1798)
For I have learned
      To look on nature, not as in the hour
      Of thoughtless youth; but hearing oftentimes
      The still, sad music of humanity,
      Nor harsh nor grating, though of ample power
      To chasten and subdue. And I have felt
      A presence that disturbs me with the joy
      Of elevated thoughts; a sense sublime
      Of something far more deeply interfused,
      Whose dwelling is the light of setting suns,
      And the round ocean and the living air,
      And the blue sky, and in the mind of man;
      A motion and a spirit, that impels
      All thinking things, all objects of all thought,
      And rolls through all things. Therefore am I still
      A lover of the meadows and the woods,
      And mountains; and of all that we behold
      From this green earth; of all the mighty world
      Of eye, and ear,--both what they half create,
      And what perceive; well pleased to recognise
      In nature and the language of the sense,
      The anchor of my purest thoughts, the nurse,
      The guide, the guardian of my heart, and soul
      Of all my moral being.

http://www.bartleby.com/145/ww138.html (http://www.bartleby.com/145/ww138.html)

check Shelley also, esp. "Ode to the West Wind": it's a true masterpiece!
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Cow on June 09, 2008, 11:22:25 pm
Does anyone know why Punaji hasnt been restored yet? I know David wanted to close it, but the community didnt seem to be in favor, whats going on? Anyone talked to thei'in the know' crowd?
www.punaji.com (http://www.punaji.com)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: willfaulds on June 10, 2008, 06:40:05 am
interesting community for swapping games. needs to go grow a bit more though.

http://www.swopster.com
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Godslayer on June 10, 2008, 10:22:35 pm
Does anyone know why Punaji hasnt been restored yet? I know David wanted to close it, but the community didnt seem to be in favor, whats going on? Anyone talked to thei'in the know' crowd?
www.punaji.com (http://www.punaji.com)

I just noticed the new update.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on June 11, 2008, 02:54:06 am
I always wanted to sign up on punaji but I never had the balls to.   :noob:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on June 11, 2008, 04:40:04 pm
unrelated, grew out of souly's thread i think -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEWp6NeR-pc&amp;feature=related

watch until a minute in and tell me you don't both admire those two guys as well as finding their pain incredibly funny.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on June 11, 2008, 10:47:36 pm
 :o not funny at all for me  :yell: just the pain  :yell:
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Post by: Sohashu on June 11, 2008, 11:14:13 pm
I respect them far more than i should, if only because I believe all sports should be as extreme as this (says the avid tennis/soccer watcher).  It's pretty much one of the cooler things i've ever seen, while also being the most painful.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on June 11, 2008, 11:47:12 pm
ok, so maybe the pain isn't funny, but the way it came about.  also, i didn't notice 'till the second watch that they both hit those posts, which I don't think are "breakaway"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISsLEU4Cld0&feature=related - most intense one i found.


also, compeltely off-topic, desperation cooking saved the day last week!  i was going to take a girl out to dinner but she just wanted to come over and spend some time together, i agreed (doh) and shed be over in half an hour.  this has happened before, but this is the first time the food was any good, and it was literally everything i had in my fridge (all raw) :

2 eggs, 1 potato, 1/4th lb sirloin, 3 big carrots, a third of an onion, salt, olive oil, grapes.

in a saucepan, put the eggs and the potato in underwater and set to boil.
chop the meat into small chunks and with the carrots and onions also chopped put in a small saucepan with a little olive oil, just enough to not burn.  sprinkle a bit of salt over all of it and cover on medium heat.  reduce heat slightly when meat is fully brown.
by now the water should boil, let it go for a full minute, then turn heat off and cover 12 minutes.
remove eggs from water and place in ice water.  chop potato into small slices, then half and half again.  add to meat+carrots.  cook a few minutes on high heat to make sure the potatos are cooked.
chop eggs, salt lightly, and add to pot.  put heat to low and cover.  put grapes on side of plate, light candles, pour drinks, set table...plate food, answer door.
it's not the best thing i've ever cooked but i thought i'd share because it was quick, good, and even though it fed two people it cost as much as one person ordering a macdonalds value meal.



PS - this running joke between our friends (originally to cheer up a roommate) might be going a little too far....
(http://xs128.xs.to/xs128/08244/heoh916.jpg)

vague reference to Christopher Walken on SNL
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: chriskot on June 12, 2008, 02:48:03 am
vague reference to Christopher Walken on SNL
Hilarious! That was a great episode overall. Everything is better somehow with Christopher Walken in it.


Changing the topic, it is damn hot up here right now. It's funny how Canada often gets stereotyped as a cold country, but we really get all the extreme temperature. Turns out that my local area is actually, on average, 5 degrees (Celsius) hotter in summer than California. A couple of days ago, we hit 42oC (that's 107.6 Farenheit to those of you in the US, Turkey, or Myanmar) and I think we're supposed to reach that again on Sunday. I got back to school at the end of lunch yesterday and there were two police cars, an ambulance, and a fire truck out front because some other student collapsed from heat stroke during gym and had to be rushed to the hospital. We're getting some good thunderstorms, but somehow it's not really cooling anything off. Anybody else stuck in some bad weather right now?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on June 12, 2008, 03:40:29 am
Anybody else stuck in some bad weather right now?

are you in ontario?  if so, you're getting the same weather as us a day later.  don't worry, the third big storm is followed by nice cool weather.  i heard that from my friend in virginia yesterday and now that it's here I pass it off to you...:D
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: chriskot on June 12, 2008, 04:06:29 am
are you in ontario?  if so, you're getting the same weather as us a day later.  don't worry, the third big storm is followed by nice cool weather.

Really? That's good news. Actually, I just checked the weather report again and (with the exception of friday) it's starting to look better than it did last time I checked. Excellent. I just hope it can stay a bit cooler for my exams next week.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on June 12, 2008, 07:50:26 am
ndchristie, I dibs that Totinos.   :o
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Ben2theEdge on June 12, 2008, 02:02:27 pm
vague reference to Christopher Walken on SNL

That SNL sketch very nearly killed me with laughter. Literally, on the floor, suffocating.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on June 12, 2008, 11:53:57 pm
Hrm, the top Google Image result for Shadow of the Colossus is a resized JPG of Snake's work. http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3536/colossalkatamarfx9.jpg
It seems to get stolen pretty fucking often :(
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Xion on June 13, 2008, 02:15:30 am
Greetings from WA! I got a surprising glimpse of blue sky today. I was expecting a constant overcast.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Dusty on June 13, 2008, 02:43:16 am
Hrm, the top Google Image result for Shadow of the Colossus is a resized JPG of Snake's work. http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3536/colossalkatamarfx9.jpg
It seems to get stolen pretty vucking often :(
I've gotta commend Snake on that piece. Not only because of the pixel-kick-assness of it, but also because he melded two very favorable things. People do a lot of work around here, but I don't think I've seen anyone else's stuff stolen and passed around the 'net as much as that piece. It's just a pity Snake's name seems to have been lost in all this passing around.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Froli on June 13, 2008, 12:07:49 pm
This is awesome  :lol:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=310683
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Dusty on June 13, 2008, 02:33:17 pm
Rofl...

Oh, and this little gem was written on Gamefaqs, and I happened across it. It's just my kind of writing. It's his narration and thoughts while playing through the original(well, the remakes) of Pokemon. Pity it's written on a Hello Kitty background... I'm embarrassed to be seen on the site :x

http://neskimos.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7214
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Malor on June 13, 2008, 03:24:28 pm
This is awesome  :lol:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=310683

I just spent half an hour reading through that, and have never "Lol'd" so much. Very very fun.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Doppleganger on June 13, 2008, 03:25:54 pm
That's some quality writing right there. I don't think that he really needs to write about anything at all to enthrall whomever is reading what he is writing, but the fact that it's about a game as inane as pokemon makes it all the better.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Malor on June 13, 2008, 04:44:22 pm
hmm I also throughly enjoyed the pokemon review. A rather funny take on a game,a game which I never noticed revolved around crack whores and rape. Kudos for posting that Dusty, and even more kudos for the author.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Feron on June 14, 2008, 12:05:08 am
reading the forum whilst drunk is an interesting experiene....   ???
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on June 14, 2008, 05:04:10 am
reading the forum whilst drunk is an interesting experiene....   ???

lol, i think you're one of the few to have that experience (i can think of a few others that have made that announcement, but none that frequent the boards)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: skw on June 14, 2008, 08:00:23 am
reading the forum whilst drunk is an interesting experiene....   ???

heheh, true! I'm trying to keep my fingers away from the 'post' button while droned, though.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Feron on June 14, 2008, 03:41:12 pm
hahah i don't even remember posting that.
 
:-[

Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on June 15, 2008, 06:44:31 am
finally saw Taxi Driver today.  man, that's a movie that will drive you nuts, if not during the film then later when you try to imagine what's next.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on June 15, 2008, 07:31:45 am
finally saw Taxi Driver today.  man, that's a movie that will drive you nuts, if not during the film then later when you try to imagine what's next.

Finally got around to seeing it, eh? I agree, though. I love how De niro's character is such a nobody with no Social attributes at all, but some how gains the status of a hero by adding douses of psychotic behavior and possible terrorist undertones as well. Brilliant movie.

"You talkin' to me?"...Legend.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: surt on June 15, 2008, 09:26:11 am
I love how De niro's character is such a nobody with no Social attributes at all, but some how gains the status of a hero by adding douses of psychotic behavior and possible terrorist undertones as well.
Interesting. I'm a nobody with no social attributes at all. Interesting...
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Zolthorg on June 16, 2008, 12:26:49 am
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/zolthorg/recognizable.png)

i just threw this together out of boredom, but i'm getting terrible deja-vu
anyone recognize the little guy? I'm hoping i've lifted him from a previous doodle of mine rather than someone else's work.
(not that there are many unique shapes accentuating the same features in a 16x16)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Twinspiration on June 16, 2008, 12:37:41 am
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/zolthorg/recognizable.png)

i just threw this together out of boredom, but i'm getting terrible deja-vu
anyone recognize the little guy? I'm hoping i've lifted him from a previous doodle of mine rather than someone else's work.
(not that there are many unique shapes accentuating the same features in a 16x16)

I think it bears quite a resemblance to FFIV's 'Tiny Mage (http://www.videogamesprites.net/FinalFantasy4/Enemies/Humanoid.html)'.

(http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8868/tinymagebe9.gif)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: .TakaM on June 16, 2008, 02:57:18 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takam
 :o

what say ye helm?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on June 16, 2008, 03:03:25 pm
I say  :mean:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on June 16, 2008, 04:48:34 pm
   You guys seem like a bright couple of eggs. So tell me, as I'm not so technologically savvy as a digital artist yet: Why is it when saving a piece as a .png file in mspaint, then opening that same file in Promotion and saving it, then reopening it back up in microsoft paint causes a TINY amount of color differential/loss? Small issue, but problematic as I can't control it, as my exact palette gets jacked, if I copy and paste it from Promotion to MSP. Now, I'm aware of the Global palette option in Promotion(which is nifty when keeping animations with a tight palette) but I'm more comfortable with Mspaints simple "glitch" eraser settings.
   I'm just curious, as I don't understand why a program can't save the exact color settings, when first saved. The colors themselves are just represented as numeric values to a cpu, so why can't it save that value, and transfer it over to another program with the same simple capability? I remember this same issue occured on the last community iso challenge, where people kept grabbing the iso wip, saving it, and by the time it got to 15th save or so(not that many saves, really, but you get the point), we all tended to notice a bit of color loss from the original. Do paint programs have an automatic setting, where it will optimize a file in png by default without your knowledge, every time you save it, due to it trying to be more efficient by saving more room and whatnot? Again, just a dumb guess, but I'd really like to know if anyone here actually knows the real answer, as it's been bugging me a bit. Any one have the slightest idea?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on June 16, 2008, 05:07:51 pm
I think windows/mspaint is a bit borked with png support. The fast and simple method is to stop using mspaint, of course. If you want to do otherwise, save the palette in pro motion as a palette file and then when you put your art back in pro motion after running it through mspaint for whatever reason (seriously, you have no excuse) just reapply the palette.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Atnas on June 16, 2008, 07:32:07 pm
Mission: 9th Grade
Status: COMPLETE
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: chriskot on June 16, 2008, 08:33:45 pm
Mission: 12th Grade
Status: COMPLETED TWICE!


...At least that will be the case by this friday. I'm getting really tired of high school. It's not as much fun when all of your best friends have already left.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Feron on June 16, 2008, 11:02:11 pm
yeah i just finished high school.

university for me in october :)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: skw on June 17, 2008, 08:25:29 am
what specialization?

university (http://www.amstud-lublin.edu.pl/) in October . . . will have to repeat the first two years. :/

wow! that's what I'd call a creative design! (http://bmw-web.tv/en/video/gbiXGRR/BMW%20GINA%20Light%20Visionary%20Model%3A%20Premiere)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: AdamAtomic on June 17, 2008, 02:19:40 pm
the hood opening is just....dirty
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Feron on June 17, 2008, 03:55:18 pm
what specialization?


Mathematics, how about you?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on June 17, 2008, 04:58:09 pm
you say dirty like its a bad thing...

if this is what they're doing with cars, imagine what others'll do with robotics :O  *happy*





oh, and my major is words n shit, if anybody cared to know.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on June 17, 2008, 05:06:50 pm
   I have a small amount of doubts for the BMW GINA. I'm just wondering what will the car owner do, once there's a rip in that strong fabric skin? Will BMW offer "skin replacement" warranty on them? Will car skins be available and cheap to buy in the near future, for any normal consumer? How will the light material hold up to crash tests, and safety marks? This design is definitely very unique, but I think it presents some problems as well. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Ben2theEdge on June 17, 2008, 05:43:03 pm
I'm in the skeptic boat too. It's a neat idea on paper but looking at the video it struck me as really creepy. Plus the whole issue of whether or not the "skin" works well when put to the test of real life conditions. Also on a side note there's currently other technologies for super lightweight materials that are as strong as steel; the technology is there but car manufacturers aren't keen on shelling out the money to upgrade their factories and re-train their employees.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on June 17, 2008, 07:03:39 pm
oh, and my major is words n shit, if anybody cared to know.

yess....a fellow liberal arts student....

what about words specifically though?  fiction? non fiction?  literature?  journalism?  poetry?  linguistics?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Feron on June 17, 2008, 07:37:06 pm
the hood opening is just....dirty

lol.... perhaps they'll include a secret opening for those lonely nights in your garage...  :P
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on June 17, 2008, 09:07:07 pm
I wonder just how strong the material on that car would be. Strong enough to withstand a nail or a pocketknife?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Indigo on June 17, 2008, 09:11:18 pm
they've mentioned there are no plans to mass-produce or sell the car.  it was more or less a marketing gimmick for their company - and a sort of path to a new thought process within the company.

as for the hood; we know all cars are female... I guess it makes sense if one has a vagina
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ptoing on June 17, 2008, 09:39:58 pm
Cars are female? I would say that most cars have no feminie qualities at all.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on June 17, 2008, 09:49:03 pm
everything possessed or wielded is female thanks to our wonderful chauvinistic ancestors.  from boats to bikes to swords to nations.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Opacus on June 17, 2008, 10:04:14 pm
I'm back. I'm sure you all missed me terribly much.
I just moved, and didn't have internet for 2 weeks. Today I found out I could tap it from the neighbours
:D
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on June 17, 2008, 11:08:23 pm
vag

I'm sorry for the sideways point but that's a pretty awful way to speak about a vagina.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Indigo on June 17, 2008, 11:10:32 pm
I was unaware that was offensive.  - fixed -

continuing the side-note:
don't mind my ignorance to such things.  to me words are words.  having two words referring to the same thing, yet holding different offensiveness behind them sounds silly to me...unless there was some derogatory slur behind it I guess, but I don't see how you can talk about a bodily part in a derogatory way.

I do respect those who get offended by such words, however.  Its the reason I refrain from swearing - not for myself, but for others.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Rydin on June 17, 2008, 11:28:43 pm
oh, and my major is words n shit, if anybody cared to know.

yess....a fellow liberal arts student....

what about words specifically though?  fiction? non fiction?  literature?  journalism?  poetry?  linguistics?

well, "english language and literature" is the major's name, but I hope to be as inclusive as possible--it all interests me, except the journalism of course.  If you really want to know the truth, I was an Advertising student last year, but I dropped out.  Conflicting morals mostly.  It was getting to the point where we were actually being taught how to lie.  It was that, and the whole, "wow, I'm paying for this shit" thing, too.  So now I'm switching schools and everything, blah blah blah...it's been a wasted fucking year... 

can always tell you're an arts student....specifically what? ^_^
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: ndchristie on June 18, 2008, 12:34:59 am
Well hopefully you got some gen-ed credits and a little bit of jading "applicable information regarding sales and publication" - i have some lit major friends that think the world will love them just for twisting shakespeare.

Majors :

Fine Arts - Painting
Arts - Writing (Non-Fiction)

Intended Minors (start in spring):

Fine Arts - Printmaking
Arts - Ecucation
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: skw on June 18, 2008, 12:40:04 am
*drunken post alert!*

a needle and a thread, man, a needle and a thread. . . :) I think it's all about a frame of metal and carbon fiber wires that actually can withstand a blow and achieve good results in crash-tests.

I'm studying English philology (everything concerning the language and its usage); this time taking the American English profile.

yes, it does look quite like a vulva. . . ;p but oh well. . . I see nothing wrong with that, it's as nice as those blinking headlights, innit? ;p
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on June 18, 2008, 02:39:25 am
I was unaware that was offensive.  - fixed -

continuing the side-note:
don't mind my ignorance to such things.  to me words are words.  having two words referring to the same thing, yet holding different offensiveness behind them sounds silly to me...unless there was some derogatory slur behind it I guess, but I don't see how you can talk about a bodily part in a derogatory way.

I do respect those who get offended by such words, however.  Its the reason I refrain from swearing - not for myself, but for others.

I didn't mean you to edit anything. You can go ahead and swear when you think swearing is called for as far as I'm concerned. I can take it!

I am no native speaker but 'vag' for vagina sounds something a douchebag would say, really. That's all, it's more out of character for you than something that DEEPLY OFFENDS ME.


Also, HALP!

I am now using Firefox 3. I use Imagezoom for all my zooming needs on this board and everywhere else. In FF2 I had nice, crisp, un-resampled zooming so when I zoomed in I could see the clear crisp pixels. Now in Firefox, both native zooming (ctrl+) and ImageZooming makes everything resampled when upscaled, which is HORRID for pixel art. I can't do critique like this! Please help helm help you! Some coding wizard tell me what do I disable in about:config in Firefox to get back my nice crisp pixels?!
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: AdamAtomic on June 18, 2008, 02:55:57 am
Meh, I've started using Firefox 3 Beta 4, and I was very pleased, but now I found out that they've implemented smooth image resizing :( I've tried googling for a way to turn it off but I can't find any way of doing so. It's pretty strange how you always get the same reaction when wanting to turn it off, "Why would you want that?". Well gee, why would I want to blur out something that's already lossless...

Anyone else here using FF3? And do you know if it's possible to turn it off?

 :(
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on June 18, 2008, 03:19:32 am
I sent feedback to Firefox. I suggest all you pixellers do the same, but there's not much hope for a cure soonish  :(
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Conzeit on June 18, 2008, 03:36:46 am
everything possessed or wielded is female thanks to our wonderful chauvinistic ancestors.  from boats to bikes to swords to nations.
In spanish things have varied sexes. cars are male. chairs are female. streets are female. light bulbs are male.......hell if I know why:p
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Panda on June 18, 2008, 06:32:28 am
the hood opening is just....dirty

Uhm... I guess they didn't call it BMW Gina for no reason  :lol:
But I really like how when the lights go up, the car looks like some kind of creature blinking.
I wonder if it will create another kind of vandalism, where people just go around ripping cars with a knife :o


everything possessed or wielded is female thanks to our wonderful chauvinistic ancestors.  from boats to bikes to swords to nations.
In spanish things have varied sexes. cars are male. chairs are female. streets are female. light bulbs are male.......hell if I know why:p

Eh, light bulbs are female in Spanish.
But what you are mentioning is a tad different. In Spanish, things usually get a "gender" according to the vowel the word ends with, without any further reason.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Indigo on June 18, 2008, 07:15:16 am
...sounds something a douchebag would say, really.

thanks for calling me a douchebag ... douchebag!  ;)

I encountered the same problem with ff3 obviously.  I checked around the bug and support forums to find a few of our pixel artists already putting up a fuss.  I'm pretty sure enough people are going to complain to cause a change
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: skw on June 18, 2008, 09:13:51 am
Helm, it looks like all you can do right now is to reinstall FF2. (http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?topic=6378.0) eventually get Opera: FF3 is no match for the new super-duper 9.5 version IMO! I'm still using FF2, though.

Quote from: Panda
Quote from: AdamAtomic
the hood opening is just....dirty
Uhm... I guess they didn't call it BMW Gina for no reason  :lol:

hahaha

roadsters are female. period. no matter what!
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Helm on June 18, 2008, 02:23:53 pm
Dang, I don't wanna downgraaaadeeeee!  :'(
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on June 18, 2008, 03:00:17 pm
   What's so great about Firefox 3, any way? I have FF 2, and it's good enough for me; no need to change. Plus, I value my zoom privileges, and am not willing to sacrifice it over some dumb bookmark features that I never even use in the first place.

   Also, just recently saw Internet Explorer 8 beta, and it's coming along...though, I'm still a Firefox whore.
Title: SPORE-TIME
Post by: infinity+1 on June 18, 2008, 04:05:00 pm
bring on the home made monster madness!
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/tinsleycurtis/CRE_-06825773_ful.png)

Title: Re: SPORE-TIME
Post by: AlexHW on June 18, 2008, 04:19:48 pm
this belongs in the offtopic thread

EDIT: Unlocked and merged with the OT thread. - Panda
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: infinity+1 on June 18, 2008, 04:37:06 pm
oh, sorry. i figured a bunch of people would be messing around the creator, giving it a reason to be it's own thread. oops.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Conzeit on June 18, 2008, 05:17:07 pm
PANDA: I dont know how it is where you live, pero aca en colombia le decimos EL BOMBILLO! that's male for ya :crazy: >:( :huh:

Infinity...that's awesome! do you need a top of the line PC to run the spore char creator?
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: AlexHW on June 18, 2008, 05:19:26 pm
theres a free trial of the creator at spore.com so you can test it on your machine.. im sure the game is pretty scalable.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Panda on June 18, 2008, 05:25:49 pm
PANDA: I dont know how it is where you live, pero aca en colombia le decimos EL BOMBILLO! that's male for ya :crazy: >:( :huh:

In Spain it is La bombilla! :P

[EDIT]:
In case you are wondering

Bombilla = Light Bulb
Bombillo = Device/tube to pump out liquids

So you guys picked the wrong one  :lala:
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: chriskot on June 18, 2008, 09:24:02 pm
bring on the home made monster madness!

I just got the creature creator yesterday and I've been fooling around with it for a bit. Here's what I got so far:
(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i220/chriskot/CRE_Davies-06834ae8_ful.png)
(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i220/chriskot/CRE_Stumbler-06834ae9_sml.jpg)


In Spanish, things usually get a "gender" according to the vowel the word ends with, without any further reason.

On the topic of assigning genders to objects, does anybody know if there's a pattern to the way it's done in German? I've tried to learn it a few times (most of my family is of German decent) and it always bothered me how every item is either masculine, feminine, or neutral, when clearly (to me) all items should just be neutral. Can anybody explain this one? Also (as I understand it), all plural forms are feminine.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Atnas on June 18, 2008, 09:53:57 pm
In a lot of languages everything has a base gender, and then the ablative case, accusative case, dative case, et cetera all have their own rules.

It's just a matter of memorizing the rules and then memorizing the noun's gender.

I'll use Latin as an example because it's what I know. Girl is Puella, and the plural is always -ae for female nouns in the nominative case. However the neuter ending -um is used for a lot of masculine -us words, so there may be more to it in German than just using feminine endings for plurality. It may seem like plural is always feminine, when it might be a single case you're hearing.

I don't think there's a strict rule they used to assign genders, I think it was more common sense or personal preference. Things like houses are usually feminine while rivers may be masculine.

I don't think I answered your question.  ;D
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Xion on June 19, 2008, 04:23:01 am
I'm can't see photobucket images on any site. Everyone else can, though, it seems. I tried going to the photobucket page but everything seems to be screwy and then I get redirected to one of those default "register this domain" sites. I'm confused.

Also,

I dunno if I mentioned it but I, too, have graduated from high school. Hooray!

edit:
Ack! I can't even see my own avatar!
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: alkaline on June 19, 2008, 06:34:26 am
goddamn. I just stayed up until 2:30 AM,...studying for my calc final? I must be out of my mind, i've never studied before.

finally becoming a senior next year though . . .  8)
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: willfaulds on June 19, 2008, 09:31:44 am
Xion you might want to check for a virus. There are some new one's popping up that alter your browser's dns settings or something. basically it redirects you to the wrong page.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Panda on June 19, 2008, 09:48:36 am
Also I think photobucket got hacked the other day and all the pictures and albums were down for a while.
For security reasons they are asking you to change your password and all.
Title: Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
Post by: Atnas on June 19, 2008, 06:51:30 pm
Something of little consequence...

(http://electrogalaxy.dtopinc.com/catalogimages/rcas2001.jpg)
Got an RCA s2001 yesterday. It's actually pretty quality. Plays MP3 and WMA, with 1GB flash memory. Sweat/waterproof, perfect for jogging.

Only displays one color, white, but that's the beauty of it, as the text is clear in any lighting. Got a stopwatch & BMI calculator on it, can listen to and record FM radio.

It came with music, and I thought it would be the same kind of shit that's always on these things, but I really liked at least 8/10ths of the music already on it. Found me some new bands. :3