Pixelation

Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: yueprofile on December 20, 2007, 10:47:27 pm

Title: WIP castlevania style prac
Post by: yueprofile on December 20, 2007, 10:47:27 pm
trying to learn castlevania's style recently

tho it's still far from completion, C&C pls

note it's not a modification from any of castlevania sprite
it's completely build from scratch
the ref pic is mine too



(http://yueprofile.webs.com/OUT_Link_only/death%2000.png)


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(http://yueprofile.webs.com/OUT_Link_only/death%2001.png)

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hello i am back from vacation, here is a little bit of update
will work on it more over weekend


(http://yueprofile.webs.com/OUT_Link_only/death%2002.png)
Title: Re: WIP castlevania style prac
Post by: Ryona on December 20, 2007, 11:03:23 pm
Whoa. I'd say these are huge for pixel-art. Why are you making them so big? At that size you might as well stick to painting them like you did with the portrait you made (which is very nice by the way).
Really I suggest you start over and make it much smaller. Like half the size of what you got there.
Title: Re: WIP castlevania style prac
Post by: Rydin on December 21, 2007, 01:29:08 am
Yeah, these are pretty big...I mean, if you plan on adding pixel-level polish, I'm not going to stop you, but you might want to think about a smaller, more manageable canvas.

Also, I'm curious: if you are trying to learn the "castlevania style", but the reference picture you are using to do so is your own, how do you expect to learn anything? :S I'm confused.
Title: Re: WIP castlevania style prac
Post by: Malor on December 21, 2007, 02:20:54 am
Yeah, these are pretty big...I mean, if you plan on adding pixel-level polish, I'm not going to stop you, but you might want to think about a smaller, more manageable canvas.

Also, I'm curious: if you are trying to learn the "castlevania style", but the reference picture you are using to do so is your own, how do you expect to learn anything? :S I'm confused.

perhaps the reference picture made, was referenced from another reference picture? o.0.. anyways I would definitely recommend making this piece a lot smaller. If you really plan to polish this on the pixel level, be my guest, but that will take a very, very long time. As a painting, though, this is quite nice. so far, at least.
Title: Re: WIP castlevania style prac
Post by: yueprofile on December 22, 2007, 12:17:40 am
thx all


Yeah, these are pretty big...I mean, if you plan on adding pixel-level polish, I'm not going to stop you, but you might want to think about a smaller, more manageable canvas.

Also, I'm curious: if you are trying to learn the "castlevania style", but the reference picture you are using to do so is your own, how do you expect to learn anything? :S I'm confused.

Yeah, these are pretty big...I mean, if you plan on adding pixel-level polish, I'm not going to stop you, but you might want to think about a smaller, more manageable canvas.

Also, I'm curious: if you are trying to learn the "castlevania style", but the reference picture you are using to do so is your own, how do you expect to learn anything? :S I'm confused.

perhaps the reference picture made, was referenced from another reference picture? o.0.. anyways I would definitely recommend making this piece a lot smaller. If you really plan to polish this on the pixel level, be my guest, but that will take a very, very long time. As a painting, though, this is quite nice. so far, at least.

about the size, i used to work from 2x image and then bring it down to 1x,
so it will be like 1/4 of the size after i build the shape out
 

Title: Re: WIP castlevania style prac
Post by: cave on December 23, 2007, 04:22:37 am
Okay, so let me dish:

First thing that strikes me is that his proportions look too 'real'. I mean. When you think Castlevania or other anime inspired designs, the character mostly have these supermodel-like porportions, with longer limbs and torsos. Second thing is that the pose, altough correct, looks a bit uninsteresting to me. Maybe you should experiment with perspective a bit more?
Title: Re: WIP castlevania style prac
Post by: MrMister on December 23, 2007, 05:41:04 am
Okay, so let me dish:

First thing that strikes me is that his proportions look too 'real'. I mean. When you think Castlevania or other anime inspired designs, the character mostly have these supermodel-like porportions, with longer limbs and torsos. Second thing is that the pose, altough correct, looks a bit uninsteresting to me. Maybe you should experiment with perspective a bit more?
The 'castlevania' style they're speaking of isn't the style of the two anime DS abortions.
Title: Re: WIP castlevania style prac
Post by: cave on December 23, 2007, 01:59:19 pm
Since it's such a long standing series, it's natural that they have gone into all sorts of different art styles, so saying that you want to learn "the castlevania style" is somewhat confusing. perhaps we could pin it down to a specific generation of games? I was thinking of the PS1 era myself, which is why I said 'anime inspired' instead of anime top to bottom.
Title: Re: WIP castlevania style prac
Post by: MrMister on December 24, 2007, 04:12:33 am
This is definitely what I think of as the 'Castlevania style'.. although its not my favorite game.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/MrMister/cvsotn.jpg)
I think you're living in a fantasy anime world if you find this to be anime inspired.
It seems to be inspired by an actual human form.
Title: Re: WIP castlevania style prac
Post by: cave on December 24, 2007, 05:04:28 am
I really should stop using the word "anime", as it seems to push all the wrong buttons on a lot of people. Anyways, yes, this artwork is from the PS1 era, so I still stand by my previous crits. Anyways take them or don't, whatever. I'm just trying to help. No need to be rude.
Title: Re: WIP castlevania style prac
Post by: Helm on December 24, 2007, 10:21:32 am
Not only you will not be rude to people, you shall also be on-topic please.
Title: Re: WIP castlevania style prac
Post by: MrMister on December 24, 2007, 11:34:25 am
Figuring out what "castlevania style" is seems on topic for a thread called "WIP castlevania style prac".
If I showed my distaste for anime a little strongly, sorry  :-\

yueprofile: you should have probably posted this in the art thread first. then you could post it in here when there's actual pixel art to speak of..
Title: Re: WIP castlevania style prac
Post by: Helm on December 24, 2007, 12:04:07 pm
That's quite true. I hope we see some pixel art in this thread soon otherwise I'll... lock I guess?
Title: Re: WIP castlevania style prac
Post by: Conzeit on December 24, 2007, 03:43:28 pm
well, CV style could be anything from NES sprites, to brushed in SNES sprites, to outlined, badly shaded GBA  sprites.....

But I'm asuming you mean SOTN/RONDO style. I happen to have a friend called Sonic Reaper who knows it down pat.....personally I overcomplicate things so much I end up not being able to do it :p

it's quite an agreeable style, it's gots lots of simplicity yet has good qualities for making good depth and some detailing....IMO the only thing missing is face features.

Maybe you should actually try the sprite style
Title: Re: WIP castlevania style prac
Post by: yueprofile on December 26, 2007, 05:27:42 pm
guys i am open to any crits  and i dun think i am good enough to catch everything from the Castlevania style
maybe i should change the name of the topic if it really disturb you guys

Okay, so let me dish:

First thing that strikes me is that his proportions look too 'real'. I mean. When you think Castlevania or other anime inspired designs, the character mostly have these supermodel-like porportions, with longer limbs and torsos. Second thing is that the pose, altough correct, looks a bit uninsteresting to me. Maybe you should experiment with perspective a bit more?
i agree, the poses are always my weak point,  if you dun mind, could you show me some draft mock up?


Figuring out what "castlevania style" is seems on topic for a thread called "WIP castlevania style prac".
If I showed my distaste for anime a little strongly, sorry  :-\

yueprofile: you should have probably posted this in the art thread first. then you could post it in here when there's actual pixel art to speak of..

good idea, i didnt think of it... maybe admin can move it?

That's quite true. I hope we see some pixel art in this thread soon otherwise I'll... lock I guess?

i am on vacation trip
pls wait until after newyear, thx
Title: Re: WIP castlevania style prac
Post by: yueprofile on January 05, 2008, 01:33:43 am
hello i am back from vacation, here is a little bit of update
will work on it more over weekend ;)

(http://yueprofile.webs.com/OUT_Link_only/death%2002.png)
Title: Re: WIP castlevania style prac
Post by: crab2selout.png on January 05, 2008, 01:06:18 pm
I don't think you understand what pixel art is. Have yourself a look around.
Title: Re: WIP castlevania style prac
Post by: JonathanOfDrain on January 05, 2008, 01:27:26 pm
3319 colors? Well that seems a bit much doesn't it?
Title: Re: WIP castlevania style prac
Post by: TrevoriuS on January 05, 2008, 02:18:01 pm
I suspect that this is a resized version of a further finished result from the previous image we saw. So it may have been drawn in (wild guess) 10 colors, but due to the resize every pixel has a different mixture/combination of colours. Regardless of that I suggest you to don't draw such large things in pixels, dont go over 100x100 for a start, draw just the face and not the entire body is an option as well.