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Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: Max Stalker on November 02, 2007, 10:31:28 am

Title: [WIP] Armored Mage Creature
Post by: Max Stalker on November 02, 2007, 10:31:28 am
Not so long ago i've wanted to rise my pixelart skill a bit. Sooo, I took one of the Niklas Jansson characters
(http://theicebone2.at.tut.by/rfarmoredmage.png)
as a base and created a character. Here it is:
(http://theicebone2.at.tut.by/armoredmage.png)
And here is small WIP from his creation if someone interested:
(http://theicebone2.at.tut.by/armoredmage.gif)
At the moment I need help with his folds :(
Don't know why, but everytime i try to paint folds they don't look properly :(
Title: Re: [WIP] Armored Mage Creature
Post by: Max Stalker on November 03, 2007, 07:08:03 pm
200 views and no one reply  ???
 :(
Title: Re: [WIP] Armored Mage Creature
Post by: fil_razorback on November 03, 2007, 07:31:24 pm
I'm used to it to I can tell you it doesnt mean people hate you or hate your pixels. It just mean they dont know what to say.

All I can personnaly say about the fold problem is that your very first lineart was much better than the final dress you obtained. The more you progressed, the more you shaped it like a cylinder.
Just get back to your very first (or second) lineart dress design, you had some sketched folds there =)
Title: Re: [WIP] Armored Mage Creature
Post by: Titan on November 03, 2007, 07:46:34 pm
mmm this is actualy preety cool how you redrew it to pixels from a paper sketch, im gonna try it!

 :y:
Title: Re: [WIP] Armored Mage Creature
Post by: Max Stalker on November 06, 2007, 08:10:55 am
Thanks for replies guys.
Tryed one more time to make folds more properly...

(http://theicebone2.at.tut.by/armoredmage2.png)

At the moment i like them, but some more input would be thankful  :)
Title: Re: [WIP] Armored Mage Creature
Post by: FrostPumpkin on November 06, 2007, 12:48:40 pm
modified the eyes, the ruby and the armor
(http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/6904/armoredmage2qp1.png)

sry I'm not good a C+C so I make edits
Title: Re: [WIP] Armored Mage Creature
Post by: Max Stalker on November 06, 2007, 12:53:50 pm
Awesome edit, FrostPumpkin !  :o
Let's say it will be upgraded version :)

Agry about more contrast shadows on his head fnd radiosity on orb - cool  :y:
Also wana add some shine from orb so it will affect his armor :)

Thanks for edit !
Title: Re: [WIP] Armored Mage Creature
Post by: FrostPumpkin on November 06, 2007, 01:04:49 pm
thanks.
The idea of making the orb shine on the armor is great !
Good luck
Title: Re: [WIP] Armored Mage Creature
Post by: ndchristie on November 06, 2007, 03:47:50 pm
can you give a brief description/sketch of what is underneath the folds?  that is after all what will define them.
Title: Re: [WIP] Armored Mage Creature
Post by: Max Stalker on November 06, 2007, 04:42:19 pm
Let's say - something like this:
(http://theicebone2.at.tut.by/armoredmageinside.png)
He doesn't have legs and he is some sorta flying :)
Title: Re: [WIP] Armored Mage Creature
Post by: TrevoriuS on November 06, 2007, 05:06:44 pm
Then why is the cloak not hanging down as pulled by gravity, but looking as if something holds it up? Which is exactly Aderias was trying to make you realize~
The only acceptable reason would be that his body ends in tentacles widening out at the bottom, if you base it on that principle though, the foldings would be a little less symmetrical (even if it was just gravity pulling or wind blowing from underneath I doubt these folds would look that evenly spread).
You might wish to make some tentacles crawling out from underneath, change the robe shape as if it was pulled down by gravity, or make it with something underneath, but the ends still hanging down a bit, hiding what is actually inside.
Title: Re: [WIP] Armored Mage Creature
Post by: bluknight on November 06, 2007, 07:30:03 pm
I disagree with a form being needed, I think in the newer versions it is apparent that he is hovering. If the robes hung straight down as if they were only affected by gravity it wouldn't look as dynamic. As it is it looks like there is some force holding him up.
Title: Re: [WIP] Armored Mage Creature
Post by: TrevoriuS on November 06, 2007, 07:51:34 pm
The creature being heavier than the robe, the robe would be waving up as high as it could if he was held up by the same force.

Apart from that, if the robe was pulled UP by the force and the creature as well, it means that he doesn't produce the force himself, but the ground below does. If he were to produce the force he would push himself up into the sky (or it would~, w/e) which most likely wouldn't affect to robe at all either (except if he weren't floating but actually moving up or down - moving down would make this robe more correct).
Title: Re: [WIP] Armored Mage Creature
Post by: ndchristie on November 06, 2007, 08:47:20 pm
right now regardless it looks like it is set on a strange wire frame.  when a cloth catches air, it forms a bubble, not a bell.  it's when air is pulled out of a cloth that it forms this strange bell shape, and then only for an instant (as long as it takes to expellthe contents).
Title: Re: [WIP] Armored Mage Creature
Post by: Max Stalker on November 06, 2007, 10:11:24 pm
I got what you talking about  :y:
But still can't imagine how to paint it properly :yell:
Can someone show some fold on some rough example ? ???
Title: Re: [WIP] Armored Mage Creature
Post by: TrevoriuS on November 06, 2007, 10:52:44 pm
Download a 3D cloth demo (theyre everywhere if you google) and see how it works ;)
Title: Re: [WIP] Armored Mage Creature
Post by: Max Stalker on November 07, 2007, 08:08:02 am
Thanks - gona try it :)
Title: Re: [WIP] Armored Mage Creature
Post by: ndchristie on November 08, 2007, 02:34:36 am
put a sheet or blanket over a hoola-hoop and see what it does