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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: heyy13 on October 14, 2007, 05:28:04 am

Title: Animation program info, what you use and what you recomend.
Post by: heyy13 on October 14, 2007, 05:28:04 am
I'm looking for a program, preferably freeware or cheap which i can use to animate with. I'm entirly new to animation and i have some requirments.

I've used the freeware Microsoft Animator before and the main problem i have with it is that it kills the colours and shading whenever you import something. It removes colours and fucks with the dithering. So a must is:

The ablity to maintain custom imported pallets from adaptive gifs (this is how i normally save my work).

These are my main concerns, i would like to know what you all use and what you can recomend. : )
Title: Re: Animation program info, what you use and what you recomend.
Post by: baccaman21 on October 14, 2007, 03:36:30 pm
Promotion (http://www.cosmigo.com/promotion/)
Title: Re: Animation program info, what you use and what you recomend.
Post by: junkboy on October 14, 2007, 06:51:46 pm
I use GraphicsGale (http://www.humanbalance.net/gale/us/). It's cheaper than Promotion ($16) and enchanted by the spirits of a thousand Japanese dot artists.
Title: Re: Animation program info, what you use and what you recomend.
Post by: pkmays on October 15, 2007, 07:52:16 am
I started with GraphicsGale and moved on to Pro Motion. Both programs are exactly what you're looking for. There's a freeware vesion of GG but you'll need to buy a copy to save as GIFs.
Title: Re: Animation program info, what you use and what you recomend.
Post by: Kaczor on October 17, 2007, 02:03:59 pm
Are there any other programs in which if you change the color on the palette, it changes automatically on the image apart from Pro Motion? I think it's very helpful but I rather not wish to pay $70 for it :(.
Title: Re: Animation program info, what you use and what you recomend.
Post by: Panda on October 17, 2007, 02:10:27 pm
There is a lite version of ProMotion that is like $30.
Title: Re: Animation program info, what you use and what you recomend.
Post by: Kaczor on October 17, 2007, 02:17:24 pm
Yeah, but they selected features they took from the lite version very precisely to make people buy full version. As I read about it, it seems that working with lite would be kinda annoyng sometimes.
Title: Re: Animation program info, what you use and what you recomend.
Post by: pkmays on October 17, 2007, 02:46:05 pm
GraphicsGale can. Actually, in Pro Motion you have to use a plugin to remap colors in a palette by hand, whereas GraphicsGale can do it right out of the box.

Full version of GraphicsGale = $16 USD. Full version of Pro Motion = $70 USD.
Title: Re: Animation program info, what you use and what you recomend.
Post by: Kaczor on October 17, 2007, 03:11:38 pm
Quote from: pkmays on October 17, 2007, 02:46:05 pm
GraphicsGale can. Actually, in Pro Motion you have to use a plugin to remap colors in a palette by hand, whereas GraphicsGale can do it right out of the box.

Full version of GraphicsGale = $16 USD. Full version of Pro Motion = $70 USD.

Isn't it like that with Pro Motion you can use it right after installation and for the GraphicsGale you need plugin? I've searched it in GraphicsGale's help and didn't find any topics about remapping (if that's how its called :P).
Title: Re: Animation program info, what you use and what you recomend.
Post by: baccaman21 on October 17, 2007, 03:18:14 pm
and so it starts... the eternal debate... excuse me whilst I go for a nap...
Title: Re: Animation program info, what you use and what you recomend.
Post by: pkmays on October 17, 2007, 03:33:54 pm
Quote from: Kaczor on October 17, 2007, 03:11:38 pm
Isn't it like that with Pro Motion you can use it right after installation and for the GraphicsGale you need plugin? I've searched it in GraphicsGale's help and didn't find any topics about remapping (if that's how its called :P).

Nope, you've got it backwards. To remap in GraphicsGale, hold Alt while dragging a palette entry. It'll move the color in the palette without screwing up the sprite.
Title: Re: Animation program info, what you use and what you recomend.
Post by: Kaczor on October 17, 2007, 03:55:19 pm
I think I don't get it or you don't get what I'm asking for (most likely the first one). Maybe it's because of the language barrier :(.
Title: Re: Animation program info, what you use and what you recomend.
Post by: Lawrence on October 17, 2007, 03:59:28 pm
If there was a way to manually remap palette entries directly from the palette box in pro motion, I'd use that program all the time. The plugin which allows palette remapping is so slow an cluttered compared to, say, mtPaint's built in feature where you can just drag and drop entries within the palette window itself (which, by the sound of it is the same as in GG). I also don't like how in promotion, when you cycle through palette entries you are able to accidentally cycle past the entries you want to use because it doesn't let you set a limit (which mtPaint does).

(btw mtPaint sort of sucks for animation so I don''t mean to mention it for heyy13's original topic of animation)
Title: Re: Animation program info, what you use and what you recomend.
Post by: Panda on October 17, 2007, 04:05:23 pm
Quote from: Kaczor on October 17, 2007, 03:55:19 pm
I think I don't get it or you don't get what I'm asking for (most likely the first one). Maybe it's because of the language barrier :(.

You just want a program that allows you to change your palette at will, and automatically replaces all the pixels (of the color you are changing) as you edit, right?
Title: Re: Animation program info, what you use and what you recomend.
Post by: Kaczor on October 17, 2007, 04:26:11 pm
Yes! ;) (not much of a post actually :P).
Title: Re: Animation program info, what you use and what you recomend.
Post by: Sherman Gill on October 17, 2007, 05:28:20 pm
To make it so changing the color in the palette changes the color on the image, set the color depth in GraphicsGale to 8bit (256 colors) or less. Once that's done, it will do it automatically.
Once in 8bit mode, you can modify your drog and drap actions using CTRL and SHIFT:
Shift will switch the colors without changing them on the image.
Ctrl will copy the color to wherever you drag it.