Pixelation
Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: infinity+1 on October 11, 2007, 09:41:00 pm
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here is the colored version of the run animation i was working on some time ago, as well as some kind of jump:
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/tinsleycurtis/run.gif)
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/tinsleycurtis/jump.gif)
anyway. don't critique me to death, please. i'm pretty bored with working on these and i don't plan on doing too much to them. i'm focusing on new stuff now.
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humm very interesting,
the run action is smooth and the jump action remind me the game "Terminator" on the genesis system when you have your player with a white vest, he's doing a sort of same jump.
so for the jump animation, go to look at this game :)
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I imagine this fellow running and jumping along the top of a train. The animations are smooth, but they have some force too! Totally diggin' on that.
Sadly, it took me a long time to realize he had a backpack, maybe make that stand out more somehow. Although that could just be me.
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well, these are part of a slightly larger series of animations i did for a friend of mine who's taking game design classes. i was pretty happy with the way they turned out, and then he hit me with a major problem that i hadn't even thought of: size limitations.
so yeah, i totally went off and made them, finished them, and threw myself a little party over getting them done ... and it was all for nothing. we tried various ways of resizing them and fixing them and they all look terrible. fuzzy, blurry, gross.
so i thought i'd just post them here for all the amazing artists to look at and give me crap about.
oh and the backpack thing: i didn't design the character, but he's supposed to have this metal...oval...disk thing that the chains connect to? ??? i don't know. don't ask me. i was just following a drawing another friend of his. :)
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The Run cycle Animation's strobing like a mother licker. you're making the classic mistake of taking the exact same leg (and arm) loop and offsetting them in time but not in space. The only thing that differentiates the front and rear leg (and arm) is shade and tone... but this in the wrong way to do it. Regardless of shade and tone the shape is identical, regardless of what is happening within the space taken up but the pixels... Convert the image to a silhoette... this is what I'm seeing... with the exception of a few unique pixels on the hair a couple of frames offset in the Y by a pixel what you have is a 5 frame loop...
You could try;
1. Try offsetting the arms/leg loops in the X by a pixel or two...it would require a slight remodel of the torso to make the character face slightly towards the viewer...
If you insist on a side on profile view;
2. An odd number of frames count is the one way to avoid strobe... or making each frame unique... in terms of a run cycle it would mean that the opposite leg would be placed in a position that wouldn't visually synch up with it's opposite... (if that makes sense) - essentially you need to animate on 3's not 2's - (to use dope sheet terminology) - here's a couple of example anims I've jsut knocked up to try and illustrate this...
(http://pete.ptoing.net/Spinning%20Box%20-%20in%20twos.gif)
This first rotating box, is animated on 2's - it's 4 four frames and revolves 1/2 turn but ... this strobes quite violently... mainly because it's essentially just 2 frames... a diamond, and a square - that's all the eye is seeing, however, the internal sections give the impression of a full rotation because of the blue and white sections.
Now look at this...
(http://pete.ptoing.net/Spinning%20Box%20-%20in%20threes.gif)
This is animated on 3's - it's 1 additional frame above the previous example at 5 frames and also rotates 1/2 a turn... it strobes also but reads better as a spinning square because the eye interprets the form differently and therefor it reads better.
And here's a couple more, but circles this time.
in twos... (http://pete.ptoing.net/Spinning%20tri%20circle%20-%20in%202s.gif)
and in threes... (http://pete.ptoing.net/Spinning%20tri%20circle%20-%20in%203s.gif)
Anyway... that asides I've had a good look at that run cycles and, well... you've got inconsistent masses... the leg distorts quite a lot from frame to frame... the length of the calf shifts quite a lot ... :S - sorry...
I've taken the liberty to have a fiddle... Here you go:
(http://pete.ptoing.net/run_scribbles.gif)
Starting from top left, your original anim. Then there's that silohette I was on about...
The next sequence is your original with what I've placed over the top to be - hip, knee and heel, notice how the green lines in between extend and contract... and (you to look closely at this) the thigh jitters forwards and backwards on one frame... you need to try and get these moving in nice smooth arcs... look here for more info on arcs [and constructing walk loops] (http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?topic=2913.msg36415#msg36415)
The next sequence along is the silohette with a more fluid line construct (hip, knee, heel) keeping a mind on consistent lengths etc.
Moving downscreen, there's 3 single stick legs animating: the top two are identical (except color) these are then overlayed (to the right), to show that they strobe... (because they're identical), directly below that is the same legs offset slightly in the Y to demonstrate how identical legs can still work and not strobe.
Finally, there's the other lone leg (with the green line under it) this one is a unique loop, based on your original... I've overlaid this with the initial leg, directly over each other (no Y offset) to illustrate my point earlier...?!?!
Phew... I'm tired after that...
PS. the jumps nice... (except the arms don't read too well when they're up... [think of the silhoette it needs to read without detail])
enough!
Keep on pushing!
:)
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I love it when Wolverine gives these long explanations, I learn a lot.;D
The feet problem also struck me, but after only after a while. The shading was effective enough in masking the phenomenon.
I really like the secondary motion of the coat tails.
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This is not Wolverine, this is baccaman, and I love it when he does it too, I learn lots. He's an asset to the forums.
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Oh I thought Wolverine=baccaman, silly me. :P
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lol... wouldn't have been the first time I've been called wolverine... it has been said on a number of occasions I have a passing resemblance to Hugh Jackman... I guess it's the ripped torso and chissled jaw... :D
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Silly baccaman, I was speaking of a certain PJ member.
We both knew that though. ;)
Umm, enough OT comments though.
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(http://pete.ptoing.net/Spinning%20Box%20-%20in%20twos.gif)
This first rotating box, is animated on 2's - it's 4 four frames and revolves 1/2 turn but ... this strobes quite violently... mainly because it's essentially just 2 frames... a diamond, and a square - that's all the eye is seeing, however, the internal sections give the impression of a full rotation because of the blue and white sections.
Now look at this...
(http://pete.ptoing.net/Spinning%20Box%20-%20in%20threes.gif)
This is animated on 3's - it's 1 additional frame above the previous example at 5 frames and also rotates 1/2 a turn... it strobes also but reads better as a spinning square because the eye interprets the form differently and therefor it reads better.
yep...kudos for that post baccaman, that is something that one learns almost intuitively trough simply much time of animating...so it's hard to put it into such simple terms :y:
here's an example of it going on in a hell of a classic game...(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b340/baybaybom/3b9ef0b0.gif)(with only 2 real frames)...guess...and you get a spankin brand new hand watch ;)
PS: Wolverine very very =/= baccaman, Wolvie is just a guy who's good at drawing and pixeling, Baccaman is a pixer who was doing his thing before many of us were born and has even sticked to the pixels troughout this polygonated age.....and is NOT disgruntled, how unique is that?:lol:
(I wonder how many actually get the refference c.c)
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yes... indeed... of course I could have x-flipped one of those frames from the 5 frame loop too, but cos of the white/blue pattern it wouldn't work... but yes you're right.
now... is the watch for guessing the game, or the technique... cos if so can I have one of these please (http://www.suunto.com/suunto/Worlds/outdoor/main/Product.jsp?CONTENT%3C%3Ecnt_id=10134198673986181&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302757908&bmUID=1192437813360)... or one of these... (http://www.suunto.com/suunto/Worlds/diving/main/world_article_product.jsp?CONTENT%3C%3Ecnt_id=10134198673971564&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302755327&bmUID=1192437879998) thanks... :)