Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: Rokuji on September 25, 2007, 12:09:05 am

Title: WIP Dunkleosteus thing
Post by: Rokuji on September 25, 2007, 12:09:05 am
I've been lurking around these threads for some time now, looking at critiques and gaining information and improving as a pixel artist as I watched. I never had anything worth posting here, untill recently.

Its just lineart now, and even that needs some cleaning up, though i did as best as i could before i uploaded it. I will color it eventually, but i thought i would get some critique before i started that.

I'll tell you right now, i'm not the best at coloring, but i feel confident enough to try it out. I am pretty proud of this lineart though.
Title: Re: WIP Dunkelosteus thing
Post by: AdamAtomic on September 25, 2007, 12:16:11 am
Top of head/tip of nose looks a little narrow to me, i like the creative body interpretation though!!  Also i think it's spelled Dunkleosteus :D  thx for the dino love!
Title: Re: WIP Dunkelosteus thing
Post by: Rokuji on September 25, 2007, 12:30:43 am
http://www.uta.edu/paleomap/homepage/Schieberweb/images/general/dunkleosteus.jpg this is the reference picture i used for the head, but i guess from the perspective i drew it in it would be a little different.

And yeah, i'm a big fan of prehestoric sea-life. Not so much dinosaurs though(by dinosaurs i mean the big reptiles), I like the ordovincian and devonian and etc.

Title: Re: WIP Dunkleosteus thing
Post by: Rokuji on September 26, 2007, 08:55:33 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/WhiteDevil/sprite%20comics/dunkleosteusus.png) Preliminary coloring, mostly just to see what colors go where.

Any opinions on the color choice? Critiques? I definately know that i will need some help with the coloring. :-\

Oh, and ignore the teeth, i will change those colors eventually.
Title: Re: WIP Dunkleosteus thing
Post by: Jolly on September 27, 2007, 06:33:00 am
I hope you're not leaving the outlines there. :p
Looks like you're pillowshading, where's the light coming from?  :-[
Title: Re: WIP Dunkleosteus thing
Post by: Sherman Gill on September 27, 2007, 07:49:32 am
I think your art is really suffering because you're working on a pure white background. It doesn't have the contrast it needs.
Pretty much, pay no attention to how wacky the colors are, just pay attention to how much contrast there is. Also, is the thing supposed to be underwater?

I would do more than a color edit, but my tablet is totally borked :'(
Title: Re: WIP Dunkleosteus thing
Post by: Ben2theEdge on September 27, 2007, 01:33:09 pm
First of all, beautiful lines! I'm really excited to see this guy finished! Now for the pain:

Pillow shading! Bad! *Slap*
There needs to be one unified light source. It seems like each section of the body has its own little light source shining down on it and they're all fighting with each other, telling the eye conflicting stories, and overall making him look like he's made out of big squishy marshmallows. It looks like you're using every shade in your color ramp on every area that you color. I would recommend starting with fewer shades, maybe three - light, mid and dark. First do a simple pass - decide which areas the light should be hitting and which areas should be in shadow. Get each area at the proper overall value, then start to add more shades for volume.

This was the best reference I could come up with; notice how even though the light is very soft and subtle there is still a very clear source of light and appropriate shadows.
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/01/24/frilled_shark_wideweb__470x259,0.jpg (http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/01/24/frilled_shark_wideweb__470x259,0.jpg)
Title: Re: WIP Dunkleosteus thing
Post by: Rokuji on September 27, 2007, 06:48:23 pm
Hey, i like that pallette. I wont steal it, but i will definately up the contrast.

As for the whole pillow shading thing, i was thinking about using less colors, but idk. Simply changing the colors to be more contrasting seems like a better idea to me.

I willl also find a set lightsource and try to make everything realistic around that, but i may not do it so well. D: I really tried not to pillowshade, but it looks like i failed. I will update with an edit soon enough.

EDIT:(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/WhiteDevil/sprite%20comics/dunkleosteusus-1.png) I stole the background gray, but otherwise it is my own pallete, similar as it may be.

I will try editing with the shading now, i suppose.
Title: Re: WIP Dunkleosteus thing
Post by: RhysD on September 28, 2007, 11:35:08 am
dont use his shading...take your own pallete and shade it from scratch, using the advice the other posters have given you.
Title: Re: WIP Dunkleosteus thing
Post by: Arachne on September 28, 2007, 05:05:26 pm
It looks better now contrastwise, but your choice of colors seems somewhat arbitrary since there are some strange hue leaps in your color ramps. From blue to brown in the color ramp used for the head, for instance, and there's a blue tinted green between two greener greens :D used on the body. Try to make the transition from the hue in the brightest end of the ramp to the darkest end more even.

It also looks as if its back is broken in several places. I'd try to get it to curve more naturally.

I'd also use colors from the head on the fins since it would make the head seem less separated from the rest of the body.

Title: Re: WIP Dunkleosteus thing
Post by: Rokuji on September 28, 2007, 06:38:37 pm
I was kinda thinking of the head being browinsh, but i can certainly make it a bit more even all around.

I know the spine is a bit uneven, i unfortunately dont have a tablet, so i had to do this all with the mouse. But i will try my best to make it work out better. And i may use the head colors on the fins, though i was thinking of making those somewhat translucent.

EDIT: I can't get the curves right - when i use the curve tool, the curves tend not to match up with the previous lines, and when i do it by hand it looks just as bad as it does now. I dont know how i'll do it, but i'll keep trying.