Pixelation
Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: Snippa on April 28, 2007, 12:28:09 pm
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(http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/3508236233hood.gif) (http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/3284495507hood2.gif) (http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/2583554728hood3.gif) (http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/5992043239hood4.gif) (http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/5959320526hood6.gif) (http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/9756207656hood7.gif)
(original) (1st edit) (2nd edit) (final edit) (final edit +1) (final edit +2)
Have been tweaking & retweaking this thing all morning.
More or less trying to make the hood look more like cloth.
Changed up the colors to fit my tastes, gave a bit of a gradient to the top of the hood to make it feel more like there was actually a light source.
Maybe I should use more bland colors? heh
I dunno, feel free to post your thoughts on it.
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edit: Am I never completely satisfied? lol
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Other edits in this thread (most aren't mine):
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/ejay_pix/temphood.gif) (http://ovk.actionsketch.com/stuff/snippa_hood_edit.png) (http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/9317/5992043239hood4gr5.png) (http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/5838/beardjz5.gif) (http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/6704761178hood7-bb.gif)
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I like where it's going, the new version is already quite an improvement over the previous one, in my opinion.
I think the main problem right now is that it's too noisy, which makes the forms a bit difficult to read. Try shading the larger forms first, and add details only after they are readable .
I did a quick paint-over (pixelover) to show my point:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/ejay_pix/temphood.gif)
You can see that I removed a lot of the texture but kept hints of it in some areas such as the beard and top of the cap, I think it's more readable this way.
And on a sidenote- I only used colors from your original palette, but managed to reduce the color count from 24 to 13 (and it can definitely be reduced further). It's not crucial if you're not actually developing work for a technically limited hardware , but I find that limiting my palette makes me think differently about the use of color and the ways colors interact in a pixel based piece, It's something worth paying attention to .
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Hmm, thanks, I'll see what I can do to make it look better. You're definately right about it being noisy... getting rid of the texture itself seems to have helped out the most.
You also did a hell of alot better job with shading the face than I did, I'll have to work on that a bit as well.
Thanks for the tips.
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(http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/2583554728hood3.gif)
Some edits, removed the noise on the hood completely. Couldn't get a decent wrinkle effect that I liked.
Did a little bit of editting to the face based off your edits ejay, not major, but I don't want it to look like there is too much light hitting the face.
I got a bit distracted while I was working on it, I'll probably do some more edits later.
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To me without zooming in i thought the beard/hair was blood so maybe changing the colors of that may help it out a little bit
But for the hood all the cits i can suggest had already been suggested.
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Looks good, but man, that palette! It's hurting this piece a lot. So here's a rough edit where I experimented with the colors a bit, and tried to make the hood more cloth-like:
(http://ovk.actionsketch.com/stuff/snippa_hood_edit.png)
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I prefer the original palette.
(as in snippa's latest versions' palette.)
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(http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/5992043239hood4.gif)
Cleaned it up a bit, reduced the color count to 13, did a bit more work on the face.
No amazing changes really, but unless someone else has any suggestions I think I'm ready to call this finished... at least until I start work on a body :P
Overkill: your palette makes me want to cry, definately not what I'm going for, and far from my personal tastes.. aside from that though, your edit does look decent.
Thanks everyone for your input, it is definately appreciated.
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I still think it could use some work. I don't like the extreme ditheryness of the hood, especially since the other parts have like about 4 or so colors each. Pretty good job with the face itself, though!
If you really wanted to reduce the palette, I got it down to 8 (Which includes the background color) by using the same colors for the skin as it is in that hood stripes things (I don't know what they're called). You don't have to, especially if you're not limited by colors.
I added a bit of saturation to the skin colors, I found them a bit too unsaturated for my tastes. So, here's my edit. Also added a bit of contrast, I love contrasty colors. I also liked Ejay's edit. You could even learn from Overkill's edit, perhaps not by the palette colors, but how it's done.
(http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/9317/5992043239hood4gr5.png)
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nice character Snippa, and good progression :)
I think you can work a bit more on it tho.. the main problem I see on it, is the lighting; it's hard to see (by the lighting) that the head is hiding under the hood..
I kind of suck at sprites so I thought it would be a good exercise for me too :P
so here my attempt to explain what I meant..
(I started from your 2d edit and got it down only to 16 colors)
(http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/5992043239hood4.gif) (http://kakikukeko.free.fr/images/2583554728hood4edit.png)
I changed the shape of some stuffs more for my taste than for good ^^ but I hope it may be helpfull
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Hmm, interesting Kaki, I don't really like having a 3rd shade of green on top of the hood though, I think that helps making it look more metallic. Yours looks a bit more like a helmet rather than a hood compared to my latest edit.
I'm not going to use it, but I like what you did with the face and pulling the hood back a bit to show his hair more.
Probably the biggest problem aside from the hood, is the lighting on the nose and lips, I'm not trying to make them stick out of the hood, which is why I went more subtle on my lighting on the nose and the lips.
Here's my latest update... very little changed, I'm in the middle of trying to build a body for this guy...
(http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/5959320526hood6.gif)
*shrug*
I'm happy with how the face & hair looks, and fairly content with the hood in it's current state...
The body is going to take me a while :(
Thanks for the positive comments... who woulda thought I could do something like this? :P
Edit: I think maybe I should work more on my dithering "skill", not sure...
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A great improvement from the first. I'm just concerned with the palette, really. The bold red isn't exactly a realistic hair colour, and the green I think could be a bit more earthy, unless you're going for that.
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A great improvement from the first. I'm just concerned with the palette, really. The bold red isn't exactly a realistic hair colour, and the green I think could be a bit more earthy, unless you're going for that.
I completely disagree on the hair, and here's why:
(http://forums.the-blackcompany.org/images/avatars/806600336463470fb533bc.jpg)
Bit darker, but then everything about that character is dark, aside from the hat. heh
(that is a screen shot of my old character I had in Ultima Online)
Neon hair colors ftw.
The greens on the hood I'm satisfied with, I can always change the colors to fit my mood if I want.
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(http://forums.the-blackcompany.org/images/avatars/806600336463470fb533bc.jpg)
Looks a bit dodgy there.
Yours, works well, sort of a retro look.
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A little bit, yeah... not sure if thats a good thing or a bad thing though lol ;D
Edit: might have something to do with the dithering... hmm
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(http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/9756207656hood7.gif)
Again, not a huge change, mostly just removed the majority of the dithering.
Edit: Oh, also removed a color.
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quick edit:
Tried to clean up the lines and to use the colours a bit more efficiently (I've used same amount of colours):
(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/5838/beardjz5.gif)
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I think I'm gonna stick with the most recent edit I did... at least until I decide that it no longer looks good to me.
Just recolored it for the hell of it:
(http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/6704761178hood7-bb.gif)
You guys seem to like making your own edits of this... :) So I'd like to encourage everyone to make their own edit if they want or do as I did above and recolor it however you feel.
I'm still working on the body for him... so far its pretty crappy :P