Pixelation

Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: Malor on March 24, 2007, 03:52:05 pm

Title: Self Portrait, attempt number 2 (it actually looks like me!), AA help needed
Post by: Malor on March 24, 2007, 03:52:05 pm: Well, I have been wokring on this for maybe, 2 hours? and I have done quite a bit. The only thing left to do, is mess with the pallete some more (lesss saturated, I'm thinking) do the hair, and figure out how AA. Quite frankly, I do not understand AA at all, but I really want to impliment it into this peice. I have looked at tutorials, but they make no sense to me :'(.

(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5766/selfportrait2kt5.png)

I am thinking when I fix the pallete, I'll cut down on the dithering :-[ Anyways, C?C, and advise on AA is greatly appreciated.

Update 1-
(http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5721/selfportrait2vh1.png)

AA help needed desperitly.
Title: Re: Self Portrait, attempt number 2 (it actually looks like me!)
Post by: RhysD on March 25, 2007, 03:59:11 am: Not enough contrast imo
Title: Re: Self Portrait, attempt number 2 (it actually looks like me!)
Post by: and2 on March 25, 2007, 07:43:50 am: havnt posted here for a while,
Down to crits, In my opinion way too much dithering, it almost makes ur skin look rough.
And the eyes also look a tad too close together.
Keep it up tho. ;D :)
Im also likeing the position of the head in this. looks very natural.
Title: Re: Self Portrait, attempt number 2 (it actually looks like me!)
Post by: Skull on March 25, 2007, 08:44:31 am: Quote from: and2 on March 25, 2007, 07:43:50 am
Down to crits, In my opinion way too much dithering, it almost makes ur skin look rough.

Agreed. It's comes across as really.. puffy, and not that smooth.
Title: Re: Self Portrait, attempt number 2 (it actually looks like me!)
Post by: Malor on March 25, 2007, 12:52:12 pm: Quote from: Skull on March 25, 2007, 08:44:31 am
Quote from: and2 on March 25, 2007, 07:43:50 am
Down to crits, In my opinion way too much dithering, it almost makes ur skin look rough.

Agreed. It's comes across as really.. puffy, and not that smooth.

thanks for the comments guys! yeah, I am reducing the dithering like mad for my next update, I realized it was messing with the peice :-[
Title: Re: Self Portrait, attempt number 2 (it actually looks like me!)
Post by: Malor on March 25, 2007, 01:50:25 pm: (http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5721/selfportrait2vh1.png)

Update..the hair's shape annoy's me..I don't think it's right :-\, anyways, I added 2 skin tones, and removed basically all of the dithering. Now, I seriously need help on AA.
Title: Re: Self Portrait, attempt number 2 (it actually looks like me!), AA help needed
Post by: JJ Naas on March 25, 2007, 02:07:29 pm: Hmm.. the ear looks a bit misplaced and small, and there's indeed something funny about the hair. If you shaved all the hair away, the skull underneath would seem quite large. My suggestion: establish the shape and general shading of the skull first, then add hair.
Title: Re: Self Portrait, attempt number 2 (it actually looks like me!), AA help needed
Post by: philipptr on March 25, 2007, 02:46:52 pm: Made a little edit:
(http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5721/selfportrait2vh1.png)(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7261/editooorqw4.gif)
(Original - edit)
Changed the colors a bit (changed the skin tones and optimized colors from 21 to 17).
Also tried to eleminate random pixels, which I think are making your pictures look pretty jaggy.
Moved the lightsource a bit more to our right.
Changed mostly details, didnt do anything on the hair, and yes my edit sucks at some places but well maybe it helps a bit ;)
Title: Re: Self Portrait, attempt number 2 (it actually looks like me!), AA help needed
Post by: Helm on March 25, 2007, 02:52:19 pm: (http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/3039/mereferencepicwz8.png) (http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5721/selfportrait2vh1.png)

It still looks absolutely nothing like you. Every facial feature needs to be reworked for likeness, starting with face shape.
Title: Re: Self Portrait, attempt number 2 (it actually looks like me!), AA help needed
Post by: InvaderLupus on March 25, 2007, 05:32:42 pm: your work seems really messy and unrefined. You should take some time to clean up your lines instead of just drawing with the pencil tool.
Title: Re: Self Portrait, attempt number 2 (it actually looks like me!), AA help needed
Post by: AdamAtomic on March 25, 2007, 05:41:40 pm: philip's edit points something very interesting out that no one else has commented on, which is this piece is very, very heavily pillowshaded. Dithering does not fix pillow shading, only a good light source can mend that.
Title: Re: Self Portrait, attempt number 2 (it actually looks like me!), AA help needed
Post by: Malor on March 25, 2007, 06:26:32 pm: ugh, I hate self portraits...edit 3 coming up eventually :-[
Title: Re: Self Portrait, attempt number 2 (it actually looks like me!), AA help needed
Post by: Fizz on March 25, 2007, 10:41:00 pm: Have you looked at this?

http://www.anticz.com/heads.htm

Drawing portraits without any foundation can be sucide.. well to your picture. ::)
Title: Re: Self Portrait, attempt number 2 (it actually looks like me!), AA help needed
Post by: ndchristie on March 25, 2007, 11:55:44 pm: I would suggest beginning by quickly blocking out all the major regions of the face:

(http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/3039/mereferencepicwz8.png)(http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5721/selfportrait2vh1.png)(http://xs113.xs.to/xs113/07131/PortraitStill.gif)(http://xs113.xs.to/xs113/07131/Portrait.gif)

that took me about 40 minutes to do, and it is far from perfect, i have a bad habit of making everyone look older than they are in real life and it's much harder for me to do on the computer, but it is sufficient for this first step. 40 minutes may sound like a long time, but it is well worth it to get all of the rough placements and forms set up.

NOW, once you have DONE ALL THAT can you BEGIN to refine the image. Dithing, adding colors, smoothing, tight drawing, these all should come well after you have a base image to work from.

Try it, youll find that preparing your images versus not preparing them, the results will be 100% better 100% of the time you prepare them.
Title: Re: Self Portrait, attempt number 2 (it actually looks like me!), AA help needed
Post by: Malor on March 26, 2007, 02:06:46 am: That is sexy Adarias. It's fine that it looks older, that picture is like 1 year old, and Im to lazy to take another :-[, anyways, Im wokring on a complete redo..agian