Pixelation

Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: 9_6 on January 24, 2007, 08:37:55 pm

Title: Harpy
Post by: 9_6 on January 24, 2007, 08:37:55 pm

It's for an RPG.

old:
(http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/1708/harpy5gx.gif)
(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4723/harpy1ik.gif)

new:
(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5521/harpymx3.gif)
Any ideas on how to improve it?

Title: Re: Harpy
Post by: cryssy on January 24, 2007, 10:02:18 pm

Well the thing that REALLY stands out for me is her skin. Everything has such beautiful color choices then her skin looks flat.
I did a small edit to show what I mean
(http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/6868647592edit.bmp)
See how it looks more incorporated I guess would be the best word.

My other suggestion is the chunk of skin that is to our left that looks like her arm/stomach, can you try to define what it actually is a little more?

I have more suggestions for the face but I will let you decide if you want to hear them ><

*off to hiding again*

Title: Re: Harpy
Post by: CrematedPumpkin on January 24, 2007, 10:50:51 pm

Usually isn't there a talon/hand thing right around where the wing bends? To me, right now it looks a little cut off kind of.
Very good, though  :)

Title: Re: Harpy
Post by: Ben2theEdge on January 25, 2007, 01:16:51 pm

I would give her some shoulders, and maybe work on the area where the wings connect with her body to make it a smoother transition. Right now it looks like she was supposed to have arms but they haven't been added yet.

Title: Re: Harpy
Post by: 9_6 on January 25, 2007, 02:04:30 pm

Thanks for the replies.

@CrematedPumpkin: From what I've seen birds don't have that talon thing on their wings.
Bats have those.

@cryssy: You're right.
I've actually made her skin all shiny and stuff in the beginning but it didn't look good to me so I've ditched it and went for the opposite.
Looking back at it I see that this wasn't the best decission.

@Ben2theEdge: Actually I was thinking that the arm would be completely covered by feathers making it look kind of 'cut off' but I guess a bit more smoothness in that area won't hurt.


I've changed the skin colors, added part of an arm that dissolves into the wing and slightly altered her pose.

(http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/1708/harpy5gx.gif)->(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4723/harpy1ik.gif)

What do you think?

Title: Re: Harpy
Post by: cb43569 on January 25, 2007, 02:39:34 pm

I think it now looks brilliant, and there's nothing that I could suggest for you to make it better :lol:!

Title: Re: Harpy
Post by: mangust on January 25, 2007, 05:08:05 pm

After you skin edit she stay more better, but not enough.
(http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2012/garg016op.gif)

Me simpler paint, than talk  :crazy:
I am talk about....  :huh: his foot (more strong and clawhand), and his bust more womanly and correctly, about wings - more detail and small feathers in center wing (I'm paint not enough for this, but you can better!), also torso, on you image he is twisted too much. And i glad will see this work in finish....
I hope i relieve you.

Title: Re: Harpy
Post by: Faceless on January 25, 2007, 05:13:39 pm

Her left talon really jumps out more than her right, which is causing weird perspective issues (at least to me).
Try using your shading to differentiate depth across the whole sprite, and not just each individual segment.
Otherwise mangust's edit is pretty much spot on with the direction you should be taking this.

Title: Re: Harpy
Post by: Adrian on January 26, 2007, 12:54:33 am

She has no arms! Just kidding  :P Nice work.

Title: Re: Harpy
Post by: Aleiav on January 26, 2007, 12:59:23 am

The one on the right is better in the newest post. I really hope you keep texturing the feathers.

Title: Re: Harpy
Post by: Stwelin on January 26, 2007, 12:59:53 am

I agree with faceless. You added more shadows to the wing in the background, try the same with her left talon. the talons also look a bit large to me, a bit girthy...

Title: Re: Harpy
Post by: Froli on January 26, 2007, 04:26:56 am

Mangust already made a great edit, but I made some small adjustments to your originals left talon to correct it a bit.

In different view + darkness
(http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/7844/harpyfeetfh7.png)

Title: Re: Harpy
Post by: 9_6 on January 26, 2007, 05:12:48 pm

Thanks for the replies.

@mangust: Your edit was very helpful.
I've always wondered how to pixel convincing wings and have finally come across someone who showed me how to.
Thank you =)

@Faceless&Stwelin: Ok I've made the right talon darker and made them a bit thinner.

@Froli: I see what you mean.
I've pushed those pixels upwards.

here's the new version:

(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4723/harpy1ik.gif)->(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5521/harpymx3.gif)

Title: Re: Harpy
Post by: dragonrc on January 26, 2007, 05:44:36 pm

(http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/5646/harpyeditgt8.png)
Edit of your harpy, did something with the foot, the leg and her breasts.
You may think: 'Wow this helped'
You may also think: 'get your hands of my sprite'
I hope this helps;)

Title: Re: Harpy
Post by: mangust on January 29, 2007, 03:56:27 pm

I'm glad that I helped you. But about her neck is a little bit broken  :D Edit this and you'll get nice pixel!
Anyway it's picture is good work!