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Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: Rerg1 on December 06, 2006, 08:47:45 pm

Title: Came for help.
Post by: Rerg1 on December 06, 2006, 08:47:45 pm
Well... out of plain boredom I made it.
Find it kinda okayish and wanting to post it at PixelJoint.
I need to put in some darastic changes before I do so.
Soo.. how to improve the flames and body kit of this Alien/Elveish guy UFO.

Patterns:
(http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/9325/alienpatternsck1.png)
Without Patterns:
(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6514/withoutbackgroundzf3.png)
Title: Re: Came for help.
Post by: Helm on December 06, 2006, 08:52:39 pm
I have no idea what I'm looking at.
Title: Re: Came for help.
Post by: halu on December 06, 2006, 09:38:50 pm
wtf is it o_O
I'm with Helm on this one.
Title: Re: Came for help.
Post by: sharprm on December 06, 2006, 10:37:14 pm
This looks messy and its very difficult to tell what it is. Try making something that is easily recognisable (like a dog) and when you're okay
at that move onto abstract stuff. Why don't you try coloring someone else's lineart?
Title: Re: Came for help.
Post by: ZoSo on December 06, 2006, 10:58:04 pm
I have no idea what I'm looking at.

Its obvious that its a Bottle-Tentacle-Hamsterface-robot-ufo from outer space..
How could you miss that?

Anyway the shading is a bit wierd, it got no real light source. Or it looks like its a bit from the right, but still. I dont know what style your shooting for.. maybe you could explain a bit more what you were trying to do?
Title: Re: Came for help.
Post by: Rawsushi on December 06, 2006, 11:25:45 pm
I think I can see it. I mean... I can tell that there's a pod-esque U.F.O. and it's taking off. I can't really tell what's going on with the alien.
You may want to work on a larger scale. It may make finding the individual details a bit easier.
Title: Re: Came for help.
Post by: Larwick on December 07, 2006, 01:09:06 am
Ok, until Monsoon's comment i honestly thought it was the head of some guy, wearing one of those old fan-ish collar things.

I think sharprm's right. I'd like to see you colouring someone else's lines, because i don't think i've seen much actually colouring from you as of yet.

Anyway, keep it up.
Title: Re: Came for help.
Post by: sharprm on December 07, 2006, 01:29:27 am
I think I can see it. I mean... I can tell that there's a pod-esque U.F.O. and it's taking off. I can't really tell what's going on with the alien.
You may want to work on a larger scale. It may make finding the individual details a bit easier.

Oh, I thought they were legs not flames from taking off. Starting to wonder whether its wearing a kilt.

Rerg1: Try coloring that  as an excercise.

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e199/sharprm/elf.gif)
Title: Re: Came for help.
Post by: Rawsushi on December 07, 2006, 01:51:19 am
Here's a recreation. I'm pretty sure the design is close.

(http://www.monsoon2d.com/images/thedump/rerg1.gif)
Title: Re: Came for help.
Post by: Rerg1 on December 07, 2006, 08:48:04 am
And your pretty darn close.
Sorry I didn't post earlier was busy for the rest of the night.
I don't want to use Moonsoon's lines though. And I dont think  I should?.
I was going for  ablocky look and I obvouisly failed.
I don't have the original line art I saved over it.  :mean:.
I'll have to work on what I have.
Btw nice lines Moon.


Sharp: I'll colour them when I'm at home.
Title: Re: Came for help.
Post by: Rerg1 on December 07, 2006, 08:56:14 pm
And your pretty darn close.
Sorry I didn't post earlier was busy for the rest of the night.
I don't want to use Moonsoon's lines though. And I dont think  I should?.
I was going for  ablocky look and I obvouisly failed.
I don't have the original line art I saved over it.  :mean:.
I'll have to work on what I have.
Btw nice lines Moon.


Sharp: I'll colour them when I'm at home.

(http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7730/eeegv4.png)
Title: Re: Came for help.
Post by: sharprm on December 07, 2006, 09:32:58 pm
Don't work with a white background. Make it a light shade of grey or blue or something. Then don't antialias the outside line with
green, but blue or grey. Also suggest making the thruster stuff yellow, and try to draw some yellow light reflected on the bottom
of the green bit. Shouldn't the cabin be a light shade of grey and that dark thing you drew be white? Where is your light source going to
be coming from? Obviously you can't use Monsoon2d lines for the stuff u submit on pixjoint, but you should be able learn something
and redo your old piece.
Title: Re: Came for help.
Post by: Terley on December 07, 2006, 10:38:09 pm
oh rerg what are we going to do with you, I admire your determaination cus ya jst keep comin back all ears willin to learn each week :)

Your original looks hard to make out because your colour schemes doesn't make the slightest of sense, everything clashes.. You've AAed a black line with a really dark green, each pixel should be placed for a reason..

(http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4742/alienedittw5.gif)

Well er yeah I know this is monsoon's linework so don't claim it your own, I like your colour choices, just maybe a bit more change in the Hues.. This isn't colour by numbers so don't feel the need to stick within the lines, I went a bit crazy with AAing this, plus I couldn't help colouring this in  :-[
Title: Re: Came for help.
Post by: sharprm on December 08, 2006, 02:58:13 am
Reg1, keep things simple, start from dark green and go to light green. Stuff around with hue changes when your super good imo.

I wanted to color it too.

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e199/sharprm/babyspace.gif)
Title: Re: Came for help.
Post by: Rerg1 on December 08, 2006, 08:49:46 am
Thanks.
I use MSPaint.
I don't understand promotion and I will probally download a trail again.
MsPaint is a bitch for choosing colours.
Your addvice shall be taken. Till the next update.

Edit: Don't worry, I would never post this on PixelJoint. It is Moon's.
Title: Re: Came for help.
Post by: Zolthorg on December 08, 2006, 12:10:12 pm
I did my best to recover your lineart incase you'd like to try coloring it from the beginning
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/zolthorg/alienthing.png)
Title: Re: Came for help.
Post by: Rerg1 on December 08, 2006, 12:31:20 pm
Aww thanks.
Didn't have to do that. But I'll colour that to too respect your effort.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Came for help.
Post by: Jamie on December 08, 2006, 01:09:17 pm
(http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/5397796091robot.png)

that was fun  :y:

edit - some colours got screwed when saving (should be brighter some of them)
Title: Re: Came for help.
Post by: Rawsushi on December 08, 2006, 03:51:16 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsoon   :'( 

I really didn't expect anyone to actually color those lines; they were merely my interpretation of what Rerg1 had drawn.
Title: Re: Came for help.
Post by: Rerg1 on December 08, 2006, 05:04:35 pm
Make more of them? :P.
How can we not color.
Title: Re: Came for help.
Post by: Jamie on December 08, 2006, 05:05:16 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsoon   :'( 

I really didn't expect anyone to actually color those lines; they were merely my interpretation of what Rerg1 had drawn.

Damn, sorry about that i fixed the image and fixed the 'moonsoon' ( no idea how it happened )
Title: Re: Came for help.
Post by: Larwick on December 08, 2006, 05:47:02 pm
How can we not color.

Because it was already coloured, greyscale, i guess..
Title: Re: Came for help.
Post by: Rerg1 on December 08, 2006, 07:22:00 pm
Huh?.
Updatorz- I wanna get my tablet plugged in now  >:( Got it for a present.
(http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/679/eeeho0.png)
(http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/977/eeend0.png)
Title: Re: Came for help.
Post by: Rerg1 on December 09, 2006, 07:42:47 pm
(http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/977/eeend0.png)
Title: Re: Came for help.
Post by: David on December 09, 2006, 11:59:36 pm
What the hell are you doing? You can't simply take his edit and work off of that. Oh, I added color, it's mine!
Title: Re: Came for help.
Post by: Opacus on December 10, 2006, 09:20:37 am
What the hell are you doing? You can't simply take his edit and work off of that. Oh, I added color, it's mine!
David's correct. You need to use it as a reference to improve it, not claim it as your own.
Title: Re: Came for help.
Post by: sharprm on December 10, 2006, 09:35:13 am

Edit: Don't worry, I would never post this on PixelJoint. It is Moon's.

I don't think Rerg1 is claiming it as his own. He is coloring it to improve his skills. I also colored Moons piece, as did two other people, I don't see what the big
deal is.

Rerg1 i think the second last edit looked better. The green shiny bit on the glass with the white dots as highlights looked good. The
new edit you've added weird splodges that don't look very good imo. Also if you use a brown like you have for shading, make it much
darker than the green color next to it. Maybe you should start redoing you own piece and keep everyone happy.
Title: Re: Came for help.
Post by: Rerg1 on December 10, 2006, 02:29:49 pm
What the hell are you doing? You can't simply take his edit and work off of that. Oh, I added color, it's mine!
David, Read up ^^^^.

I'll start colouring mine soon.
First want to finish this and show it to you guys and see if I progressed good.
I will colour mine after.