Pixelation
Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: Kazuya Mochu on September 16, 2005, 08:47:47 pm
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Hey everybody. it's been ages since I've pixeled. so I got my self build up to make a Fighting Game Background Style Image. So, I here are the 3 first steps, not counting the drawing and the line tracing.
so, here they are. I wanna do some sort of Cuban like Street and the sun set, so I can use alot of light and shadow.
(http://www.kazuya.gamedev-pt.net/public_img/pixel/gamebackground/step01.gif)
(http://www.kazuya.gamedev-pt.net/public_img/pixel/gamebackground/step02.gif)
(http://www.kazuya.gamedev-pt.net/public_img/pixel/gamebackground/step03.gif)
(http://www.kazuya.gamedev-pt.net/public_img/pixel/gamebackground/step04.gif)
take care,
Kazuya Mochu
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I like the line-art, and the start is very good :D
Not more to comment for the moment.
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Problem I see is with the perspective. I havn't seen any fighting game bgs with such a strong perspective so close to the foreground. That's not saying that it won't work, but when you actually put fighter sprites on the bg they may look pasted and not really blend into it. Looks cool so far though. I'm interested to see how this comes out.
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Good colour study. Include dissolving of the long shadows, the ambient bounces of the colour against the walls and a lot of diffraction. Too soon to say anything more.
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yeah now that I look at it, it doesn't fit much into a fighting game. but I was looking for that look.
an helm, points taken. I'll look into what you said a bit better.
take care,
Kaz
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I wasn't gonna say anything, 'cause I figured you know what you're doing and it looks like you have a definite direction with this and you're confident about it. And you should be, it's great, even so unfinished.
So I have to disagree with some of the above comments. You toyed with the perspective a bit and I think you did it just right. I'm pretty sure I've seen fighters, especially later generation 2D Capcom games like X-Men vs. Street Fighter that did just what you're doing, if not more so. It's exaggerated, but it looks like a fish eye lens persective or something, and it even lends a bit of whimsy to the scene. That's likely why Capcom chose that route; just a style element to punch up the X-Men comic theme.
If you consider the middle-ground area as your "stage" where the characters will be, I don't the edges of the scene will disrupt the look at all. It's your piece, though, so do whatever feels best to you.
At this point it brings to mind visions of Metal Slug town areas, and that can't be a bad thing. Your art is gorgeous, keep at it. I want to see this finished. I'm not a big fan of extreme lighting or even Cuban-esque scenery, but something you did here evokes appreciation in me for something I wouldn't usually like.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/talbot/st-dudley.png)
Dudley's stage from SF3
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Hmm good point Camus ;)
Perhaps it's simply a problem with the viewing position rather than the perpective. In Kazuya's bg the elevation of the view is a ways from the ground. While in the sf3 bg the view is very close to the ground, creating a strong sense of divergence in the foreground; allowing sprites to seemingly stand on the ground. Of course, these are just my thoughts.
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heh, I think you pretty much nailed it Pechuga. ;D I wanted to see what points the pic made by itself, rather than slobbering my oppinion all over the place...and seeing you apreciate it actually made me change my whole oppinion on the subject.
oe....y porque pechuga? XD es demasiado chistoso para mi leer eso en pixelatio---opolis, por lo que pechuga es "slang" para teta y todo eso....:p
you guys dont wanna know what that translates into :p
The perspective is indeed really high, and more importantly what that causes is the eye-fish type distortion to be on the foreground area (where the sprites'll be, and no perspective should take effect) rather than on the far off background
Had it been far off in the background, I think it would've been much easier to fit scrolling fighter sprites on it, since the only traces of perspective would've been the diagonal lines, which are pretty commonplace in fighter BGs anyway
Big thumbs up for Kazu anyways, for daring to just go with his feeling, I think you should finish this even if just for shits 'n giggles...maybe we can do like with that other background and do a japanese mask theme thingy :p
oh, and I was disappointed you dropped the whole purple shadow idea in the later stages, that would've made it much more interesting hue-wise, and it would've also fitted the fact that there's all that purple reflective light surrounding the building.
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Heh, so far the coloring and stuff is coming great.
Is this that background you were talking about that day?
Pretty much all the crits and points have been said, so time for me to remain in silence, heh, but looking forward to see more updates
oe....y porque pechuga? XD es demasiado chistoso para mi leer eso en pixelatio---opolis, por lo que pechuga es "slang" para teta y todo eso....:p
you guys dont wanna know what that translates into :p
Jaja Pegucha, y no Pechuga XDD
En que estarias pensando uhmmm ::)
haha just kidding
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Rat-day I-ay only-ay now-kay Ig-pay Atin-lay, arnit-day.... Anyway-ay about-ay e-thay art-ay, Azuya-kay it-ay ooks-lay ine-fay et-yay ou-yay are-ay oing-gay o-tay eed-nay ome-say mall-say ighting-fay aracters-chay.
Translation:Drat I only know Pig Latin, darnit.... Anyway about the art, Kazuya it looks fine yet you are going to need some small fighting characters.
Pirate:Drat I only know Pig Latin, I'll warrant ye, darnit. Pass the grog!... Anyway about th' art, by Blackbeard's sword, Kazuya it looks fine yet ye are going t' need some small fighting characters, and a bottle of rum!
I CAN MAKE UP LANGUAGES TOO!!! ;) Lol ::)
Yet the fact that no one understands me doesn't make me an artist.
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Yeah I was about to realize that the "camera is too high. it's like... 3 metters of the ground, when it should be about half a person's size. like... half metter. what's that, 3 feet?
any way, I'm probably gonna redraw it. i don't want a prespective fuckup to ruin the final look. like Iain McCaig sais: "dont be frightened to murder your darlings. it it's wrong, it's wrong, and people will tell". so, I prefere doing it again.
and yes, it a sort of spherical prespective. I'm gonna bring the camera close to the floor, so you'll have the feeling that the players are really close to you.
thanks every one. I'll update.
Kaz
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oe....y porque pechuga? XD es demasiado chistoso para mi leer eso en pixelatio---opolis, por lo que pechuga es "slang" para teta y todo eso....:p
you guys dont wanna know what that translates into :p
Hahah there is actually a funny story behind all this. A good friend told me the word and I started using it fluently. But I was saying/typing it wrong. He only caught it after I said it a few times but I just kept using pegucha as a joke. So now its like a double slang term for me :D
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looks great so far, all i would be concerned about is the amount of contrast centered in the image. a priority would be to keep the fighter sprites in consistent lighting, or risk having to draw a seperate set for heavy shadow as you have here. also the strong colored lighting and lighting angle could pose a similar problem. but eh, its not actually for a game and is just emulating the style... and this picture has a shitload of style.
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I love your work, I remember it from Pixelation, can't wait to see this all unfold. Knowing you, it'll definately be a promising piece. :D
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That's COOL
I like this post like a tutorial ;D ::)
I want to see the updata image :D :D
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i cant see you images.. can someone who does post the?