Pixelation
Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: Aleiav on November 19, 2006, 09:15:45 am
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So, I want to do a small piece that I can continue to work on and, hopefully, improve upon with suggestions from you peoples. :P I just did a small coloring of Tremulant's line art:
#1 (http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/1698465597linearts.gif) --> (http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/2416469801tremchef.gif)
#2 (http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/7386035264newline.gif) --> (http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/0482940376lineart5.gif)
New Lines:
(http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/9722911130person.gif)
I think he's pillowshaded and just... shaded oddly. I don't know. I'll fix it in awhile but I'm putting it up for crits!
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The character design is great, and the contours on the character are well done for a proportionally tweaked figure such as this.
I agree with your color comment: Neesd to pop. Robotic arm could use more contrast. Dithering seems like a no-no on sprites. My edit should help you out, I hope?
(http://virtual.dyc.edu/~peppermint/temporary/aleiavpep_edit_robotic_chef.png)
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Well, I was making an edit, but I went extremely overboard:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/mccow28/chefedit3.png)
- I don't think the dithering was doing this any favours. It just seemed to make it messy. :-X
- I dropped the color count by 2, using a color in more than one ramp.
- Added one (probably unnecessary) color, for stubble. :P
- Made the outlines more intense, ergo making it look more like a game sprite, which I don't think it's supposed to be, so disregard that I guess
Take what you will from this.
PS. <3 The hat on Peppermint Pig's edit.
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(http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/3240/edit14gf9.png)
I made a quick edit. Your skin was too pale and didnt know much diffrence from lights and darks. Outline in a darker color specially on a white background to bring out the 2D. I screwed up with the face and the pants I couldn't detail.
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The skin palette is very bland and to brownish yellow, I prefer a red progressing to more yellow tone. I made an Edit in it I heavily edited the arms the most and changed all the palettes, I used Peppermint Pigs edit as a basis as his was closer to mine then yours.I kept the number of colours the same, but you can go further and drop another colour by using the lightest skin highlight as the lightest metal highlight. Your piece had a lot of unnecessary lining around it in inappropriate colours I removed those as even though it may have been an attempt at anti aliasing I would say the colours are a bit too bold at times. Metallic colours travel from light to dark very abruptly and so getting it to look like can be hard, looking at references for them wouldn't be a bad idea. I only altered the hat a tad but no palette change from Peppermint Pigs one.
(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7551/editgo7.png)
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Wow, thank you guys SO much for all of these edits. I'm really flattered that you guys offered to help me and took time out to do edits. Thanks so much! :-*
Combining my PJ and Pixelation edits and crits... I completely redid it and came up with this:
(http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/7083031752linearts2.gif)
I like this one SO much better.
I think the highlights on the hat might be a bit too much but... I wanna hear what you guys have to say.
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Here's an edit...a little bit crappy, but oh well, it might hold some potential to assist...
(http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/66697979377083031752linearts2_edit.gif)
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Your edit seems to remove some of the depth from the pants and hat, IMO, but it looks better still, especially in the arm area. I hope this chef has the opportunity to benefit from all these awesome edits. I don't really have any other crits that haven't already been taken, though.
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Thanks for your crits and edits guys. I think I'm going to end this piece and continue with another.
(http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/2416469801tremchef.gif)
:) Looks MUCH better than the first one, I think. I learned a lot from your crits and edits you guys.
I shall go and make another, however, and we'll see how I do on that.
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Although it is sort of a posthumous crit, I'd like to point out that the highlights on the blue things could use to be closer in hue to the rest of the area, though you can fix that problem by moving the rest of the blue palette into a smoother transition or by trying other/adding more colors for the highlights.
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I gave some crits on pixel joint, I'll just paste them here for people to possibly agree/disagree with:
It's my approach that the darkest tone doesn't appear as an outline, but simply as shadow. As such, it doesn't appear anywhere where there's highlights. You're almost on that track with this new piece, but I'll do an edit to show where I think it can be "perfected"...Okay I might have gotten a bit carried away...
(http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/86516038337386035264newline_edit2.gif) (http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/73680265377386035264newline_edit.gif)
A couple of palettes, and the legs are a bit retarded... Your palette's hue shifts were erratic; it's still possible, but you'll need to reduce saturation and maybe up or down value on the pink and blue to make it a more consistent ramp.
You don't seem to have a solid lightsource defined for your piece.
And yeah, don't use shadow tones where they shouldnt be...which is areas of highlight.
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Thanks for your help, EyeCraft.
I didn't want it to look too much like yours though.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/aleiav/WIP/lineart2.gif)
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Sorry for the double post, but I went ahead and use further crits from PJ to make another edit:
(http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/6089710427lineart4.gif)
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Hey, nice stuff... sexiest lines I've ever seen!:P
Seriously, though, this is coming along really nicely. I've only a few crits, and I did a small edit to help illustrate, 'cause sometimes my mouth-words don't make so much sense:
(http://h1.ripway.com/tremulant/Edits/Aledit.PNG)
One of (maybe the only) major thing I changed involved shading. In certain places (like the top arm) some of the AA was done in a way that made the area seem blurry. The diagrammy thing to the right of the edit isn't the best example (ptoing made a better one a while ago under a post by Ego, and I'm sure there are others floating around), but It'll work. AA is meant to smooth out areas, and when you do it like it's done in the x'd version (just pile lighter colours on top of darker ones) it just makes lines appear fatter, and blurry.
The other thing I did (hopefully) was make the light source a bit more consistent . In your version there are, in places, some weird things going on. In some places, for example, you have the brightest highlight beside, like, a midtone or light shadow and it just kind of makes for jaggies.
I also agree with Eyecraft about the palette; the ramp seems a bit inconsistent saturation wise. That's a personal choice though, I think, and it's really just fine the way it is, so... I dunno, take that for whatever it's worth.
This is looking hot, and the improvement from the original's pretty significant. Good stuff.
Oh, and thanks for the colours! I love seeing other people take on my lines :D
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w00t. Thanks muchly for the crits. :)
My AA isn't the best. I think I understand how to do it but not how to do it correctly everytime. Lightsourcing is also hard for me. Sometimes I can't really imagine how light would fall on something.
Not to make excuses, those are just my problem areas. I'll definetly have to do another update.
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Just posting to note an update!
Thanks for the crits :D
I'll be putting up a new improvement piece soon.
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Sorry for the triple post but I've posted a new piece for crits.