Pixelation
General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Peppermint Pig on November 16, 2006, 04:16:34 pm
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Where do you stand in regards to the Demoscene movement and artistic styles?
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I voted for the wrong option by mistake :p I know it and HAVE attempted it, but my interest isn't any more or less than any of the other distinct pixel styles I see; my roots for pixel art are strongly in the Amiga era (something which is evident in almost all of my pixels), but as I learned more and pixeled more, my interests broadened a whole freaking lot
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I know it and like it and have known various demo scene contributors over my career - I've been a bit too busy making games though to get involved personally - plus I've always had a social life, and (generally speaking) a girl friend to keep entertained... so I've not really got into it per se - but had my life been a bit different to what it has been then sure... I could easily imagine getting 'into it'...
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"I know it and I aspire to make big pictures like Amiga 500 stuff for example."
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i am in the demoscene.
HAH jk. i know it and have attempted it. with good comments from actual sceners mind you!
(http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/2764/amigagamelogotk8.png)
@evil-ville: imo youve already captured a very demosceneish style in your work.
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I used to find it awesome in the early days of 286-486's when they would get the most of the system. Though since then I've lost interest.
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i love looking at demoscene - but i would love to be able to be good and patient enough to do it.
some pieces just look too much like photos/cg, i like the ones where you can tell it has been pixelled.
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Demoscene and the Cyberpunk, two things that always inspired and scared me at once.
Back in the "old days" (not so old actually, it was 1999/2002), I used to be around the local scene; was watching, reading and sending shit to friends. Like a silent watcher or something, not even a swapper.
Never attempted on my own, unfortunately. I was a kid after all.
(I didn`t choose the I know it and I try to use demoscene stylings in my work option, because it`s something I`m still aiming for but haven`t done yet.)
pedantic edit
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Still very much active in the scene, but as a coder. When I started in the C64 scene back in the late eighties I did graphics aswell, but MAN where those some ugly logos! :lol: I should try to dig them up so we can all have a good laugh.
Since then I have realised that art wasn't my department.
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Managed to find a screenshot of an old demo. Triad logo pixeled by me, all other graphics by better artists! ;D
(http://www.c64-hof.com/groups/t/triad/trisc002.gif)
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To be honest I think the logo is the best thing in that picture.
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I've been watching demos since 1994, and I'm active in the scene since 1999, went to my first demoparty in 2000. Not that active anymore recently though, I just don't have the time for all the things I'd like to do.
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Following the scene a bit since around 1998-1999, and became active in the c64 scene 2005 :B
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Eh, I know what it is, and I've seen some of it around. It'd be nice to try the style, but I couldn't pull it off as good as I'd like, and... I'd rather do sprites!
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Demoscene stuff always feels too distant to me. I know what it is, and I can appreciate the work that goes into it, but it's not something I'd like to try.
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I feel like a total ditz asking this...
Um, what is demoscene?
Is it basicly doing artistic graphic designs with pixels? Like, just designs, not people and landscapes and stuff?
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way back when, there was this piece of hardware called the amiga. people would do " demos" on it, using code and images to make interesting little things that basically tried to go beyond the limitations of the machine( am i correct) demoscene artwork is the images used in these demos.
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Okay, I kinda understand. I'm like, half way there now. lol
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http://freax.hu/sample.html
Mildly entertaining (at least for me) read.
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way back when, there was this piece of hardware called the amiga. people would do " demos" on it, using code and images to make interesting little things that basically tried to go beyond the limitations of the machine( am i correct) demoscene artwork is the images used in these demos.
Way back when there was this piece of hardware called the C-64. people would dp "demos" on it, using code and images to make interesting little things that basically tried to go beyond the limitations of the machine (am I correct) demoscene artwork is the images used in these demos.
(is there an echo around here?) :S
Yes... and Yes.
Hey - Ryumaru - don't take this the wrong way dude - but It makes me laff the way you describe the demoscene with the word 'basically' in that it wasn't that in the slightest - in fact - it was a great deal of hard work... but I know what you mean - you're absolutely correct though... and yes it does go beyond the amiga... the c-64 was a big demoscener machine... it may go back beyond that too - but that's out of the limits of my knowledge...
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Well nowadays there is a bigger or smaller scene for pretty much everything you can code for :D
The biggest being the PC scene atm, but the C64, Amiga, Atari ST/Falcon, Spectrum ZX scene is still alive as well. There even is a tiny Oric scene and people do stuff on consoles as well. There are demos for Ipod, Cellphones and some Calculators even. If it's a challenge to get something out of a machine some demoscener will code for it :)
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Yeah, the C64 was more or less the start of the demoscene. And as Baccaman says, back then we mostly tried to break the limits of the machine - showing more than the 8 hardware sprites supported, creating graphics modes like FLI that went far beyond the limits of the original C64 modes etc.
Ptoing - funny that you should mention calculators, I've done some demos for the Texas instruments TI-83 calculator actually (see http://sdw.webhop.net/prods.html?prodplatform=6) :D
I'm working on a new demo for it at the moment, and I'm looking for a graphics artist. Hard to find a good artist who can work with the imits of a 96x64 monochrome system though!
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haha nice, just 2 colour screen i guess, black and white, I would be interested :D 1bit gfx don't take too long normally :)
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Okay, I kinda understand. I'm like, half way there now. lol
Demoscene is hard to explain in few words. It's about art all around: pixelling, coding, music making, etc. I guess that the quickest way to learn about it is looking at a demo... if you want, have a look at the video (http://www.scene.org/file.php?file=/mirrors/amidemos/arte.zip) of the demo called "Arte" (heh), which sports wonderful pixelwork, awesome tunes, great code and lots of stuff in just a double-density floppy disk being chewed by an Amiga 500 ;)
Here are some demoscene-related sites: http://www.pouet.net, http://www.scene.org, http://ada.untergrund.net .
saimo
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C64 Scene Database :V
csdb.c64.org (http://csdb.c64.org)
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C64 Scene Database :V
csdb.c64.org (http://csdb.c64.org)
Very nice place :)
Gotta check out some of those demos!
saimo
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I have an old Atari 800XE, so can I do demoscene on this if I want too? And it's all done by code?
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I sent you a PM ptoing!
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I have an old Atari 800XE, so can I do demoscene on this if I want too?
You can do demos, slideshows, musicdisks, etc. on whatever hardware you please. The only "problem" is that not necessarily the hardware of your choice has a demoscene movement connected to it.
Anyway, I guess Atari machines do have an active demoscene.
And it's all done by code?
What do you mean? Code is just one of the key elements ;)
saimo
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cool, maybe I give it a try in the future when I understand my Atari :-\. And ofcourse when I have a better understanding of the demoscene in general!
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cool, maybe I give it a try in the future when I understand my Atari :-\.
So, I take it you are interested in coding as well (besides pixelling, I mean).
If not, you could just join a demogroup...
... or, you could just join *me* in this project (http://saimobvq.interfree.it/uniVERSUS/index.html) :D :P
And ofcourse when I have a better understanding of the demoscene in general!
Just watch demos/slideshows/musicdisks/demomags until your head blows :crazy:
saimo
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Hey - Ryumaru - don't take this the wrong way dude - but It makes me laff the way you describe the demoscene with the word 'basically' in that it wasn't that in the slightest - in fact - it was a great deal of hard work... but I know what you mean - you're absolutely correct though... and yes it does go beyond the amiga... the c-64 was a big demoscener machine... it may go back beyond that too - but that's out of the limits of my knowledge...
sorry, no disrespect to the scene! i only know what ive gathered from looking and observing plentifules of sites. im not even as old as the scene itself.
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sorry, no disrespect to the scene! i only know what ive gathered from looking and observing plentifules of sites. im not even as old as the scene itself.
no worries m8y - I just found it amusing that's all - no offense taken ;)
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I like the scene and try to do stuff like it..
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I know and like it, but never attempted anything like it.
In future.. who knows?