Pixelation
General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Dogmeat on November 07, 2006, 09:10:18 pm
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I think it would be nice for some of the new folks ( to pixel art that is ) to have something that they can use to get started with. I personally think choosing a good palette is one of the most difficult things to do, but that's just me. Everyone has a strong suit when it comes to pixel art, but choosing colors seems to be very difficult for most and they end up stealing from other peoples palettes, which is fine, because most of the time people take responsibility for doing so.
So heres what I propose to you palette masters out there:
- Pick or come up with a few simple palettes
- Describe some of the things the palettes can be used for
- Explain how each color should be used within the palette, this color is for blending this color, this color is a highlight color, etc..
- For extra credit provide a sample image demonstrating what was described about the Palette
This is a free for all ladies, but in the end I want a good set of "beginner" palettes that we can put on a page somewhere and keep as a resource for new people.
I know I'm a dick sometimes, and I applogize, really, but this is business..
Who's with me?
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Hello!
Maybe I`m just a n00b, but isn`t that topic (http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?topic=922.0) enough? There`s the Palette Workshop Challenge (http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?topic=1353.0) thread as well, where you have both examples of various palettes and their usage. Even a person who doesn`t know a thing about color schemes will get lots of practical information and advice from them. I`d also bet there were a couple of others, rotted long ago. Make people search.
I think it`s a matter as individual as the style you practise. What`s more, no one is obliged to start a piece from setting an exact palette, as it can be done later on.
If you really care, you`ll find a way to get to know everything you want. That`s my 2 cents.
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I think that's great Idea, Dogmeat. We noobs need that:)
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I think what he's asking for, rather than some high-level theory as in the other thread, is basically a collection of prefab palettes. I can see how this would be useful to absolute n00bs.
I still remember being baffled at how to make certain shades like orange, gold, and negro skin. I think a collection of skin tones would especially be useful. Other than that, I can only think of really specific examples that might be useful, like "these are colors for denim blue jeans" and "these are colors for faded denim blue jeans."
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Right, i'm asking for palettes and their uses that people can just "pull" from a thread. I don't want theory, I don't want a challenge, I just want something to give to the people and have us create it. I figure if we get good synergy going in this thread we'll come out in the end with ( I'm hoping ) around 10 palettes that people can use to get started.
Skurwy:
Keep your 2 cents, you're going to need it if you continue making generalisations about everyone. Has it ever occured to you that you don't know everything?
Not to be rude or anything but please please please, don't post on this thread unless you have something productive to add to it.
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I think what he's asking for, rather than some high-level theory as in the other thread, is basically a collection of prefab palettes. I can see how this would be useful to absolute n00bs.
I still remember being baffled at how to make certain shades like orange, gold, and negro skin. I think a collection of skin tones would especially be useful. Other than that, I can only think of really specific examples that might be useful, like "these are colors for denim blue jeans" and "these are colors for faded denim blue jeans."
Well, me noob needs not just palette (otherwise I'd just rip it from some sprite), but palettes for common cases (skin, grass, dirt, etc) _and_ clarification of why that colors whas chosen, and how to tweak and alter it.
2Skurwy
Thanks for the link to topic, but though helpful, it is too abstract.
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Using standard palettes for different elements will lead to bad practises down the road as optimally every shade should be customized for the particular piece it belongs to by hand.
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This is a good idea, but how about doing it a little different. The person posts a piece of artwork and then list all the colors and then write why he or she chose those colors and how they "fit" in the piece.
Just my opinion...
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Good ideas Helm and Nonamezleft..
Basically what I want to accomplish is the 'what' and 'why' of the elements that comprise a palette.
I think the best way to accomplish this is to pixel very simple objects, an apple, a dog, a hammer, pants, etc.. and explain the usage of what color and how that affects the colors around it.
I can't help but look at the elephant catipillar at the top of the screen and think that would be the crown jewel of this workshop, but that would be up to Panda to volunteer his time for such.
If we can get several "different" pieces I would like to design a simple, easy to read and follow guide on Palette Basics.
If I have some time tonight I'll try and do one myself, although I am by no means a palette master, something basic is really all that's necessary here.
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i could post an already done piece, telling my thought process.
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i might not understand this but heres a blue coloured palette ???
(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5941/bluepaletteqc6.png)
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What you`re asking for is the basic knowledge of color theory. There`s a quote "from the Internet",
Don`t let the word `theory` intimidate you. An understanding of the basics of color theory and the color wheel is essential for every artist and can increase the possibilities for your work. Colors are, after all, one of the basic tools of painting.
as I wouldn`t say it better.
So, what`s the color wheel? in which ways colors can be put together? what`s the difference between a hue and a shade? what do these all abstract terms like `saturation` or `contrast` mean? how do they work? and so on. If you`re for explaining `what`, `how` and `why`, it`s okay. Otherwise this topic will fill up with hundreds of identical works, boring and pointless.
The traditional art has much to do with pixels, as the pixels still belong to `the visual arts`, it`s obvious. Go for it! It`s a good way to make your practice more interesting as well.
@Dogmeat: That was a digression, I don`t think I know everything.
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ok if anyone is actually interested speak now or let this thread die please.
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I'll probably make one, but I suck with skin tones.
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less talky more makey!
Seriously though, if you are willing to "comit" to doing one of these, say so, no more probably, maybe, I guess so, etc..
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Fine. I'll make one. I promise you.
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Dogmeat, chill. You're going mad with power as the ring leader of this thread you created. If I have time to, out of the goodness of my heart, create a palette and write up a useful explanation, I will. So STFU and HTFO.
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Small attempt.
Green robot and pallet.
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b139/InaneAndMatu/GreenRobotP.png)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b139/InaneAndMatu/GreenRobot.png)
Overall:
The pallet is a washed out green that can be used for a (Rather unrealistic) metallic object(s). Such as robots.
From RIGHT to left.
The first (and darkest) shade can be used for strong shadows and outlines.
The second and third are your basic mid-tones, and should cover the largest area of the object
the fourth is a lighter shade to be used as an in-between point between the mid-tone and the highlight.
The fifth is a basic highlight (also used as a background to allow better AA).