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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Peppermint Pig on October 15, 2006, 07:41:16 pm

Title: Official OT-Creativity Thread 1
Post by: Peppermint Pig on October 15, 2006, 07:41:16 pm
This is the place to post artwork and other creations that don't fit into the pixel or gaming themes of this forum.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: SplatPixel on October 15, 2006, 07:52:18 pm
i don't know...some kid, crazy about knives i guess. i was going to make him a sniper, but then i wanted to draw a girl soldier too. i'll give her the rifle. i think i'll try coloring this in photoshop or something.
(http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/2525/knifekideg6.png)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Terley on October 15, 2006, 10:34:56 pm
great style Splat.

Can I ask what was wrong with the other thread?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Godslayer on October 15, 2006, 11:02:47 pm
We have a habit of just starting over threads when they reach 150+ posts, Ter.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: eobet on October 16, 2006, 09:42:11 am
I was recommended to post here, so here goes:

(http://www.eobet.com/temp/work-detail.png)

This is a sample of some of my professional work. I use a vector based application in order to output small 16x16 pixel icons. Some think that the anti-aliasing doesn't work at that size, but I work very hard at making it work. There are no after-touches applied to these images, which I'm rather proud of.

If you want to look at more, try this link (http://www.eobet.com/temp/work.jpg) (but it's heavily water-marked so it might not be interesting to you).
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Lawrence on October 16, 2006, 03:58:38 pm
I love the P-90 Splat.

Here are 2 very contrasting songs I'm still currently working on:
Orange Sun (http://lawrence.lh.googlepages.com/8.mp3)
Limit 4 (http://lawrence.lh.googlepages.com/Limit4.mp3)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Peppermint Pig on October 16, 2006, 07:21:38 pm
eobet, those look good, though I do concede that they probably would appear crisper if done by hand. Sometimes automation produces fuzzy results.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Faktablad on October 17, 2006, 01:39:38 am
@Lawrence

Just wondering: Do you work with loops or do you make your own tracks?  Are you theoretically savvy when it comes to music?
Orange Sun--Nice groove.  I love the feeling of it, the bass line is great.  It really really really needs a melody, though.  Also, when it changes chords, it generally sounds dissonant (especially at 0:30).  I hear the bass line modulating, but not everything else.  When you do change chords, make sure everything goes along with it.  This will also add interest to the piece.  I enjoyed it.
Limit 4--Aah!  So much bitcrusher!  I like the feel, it's so hardcore.  The groove is what I didn't really get.  You had plenty of bass drum, but no high hat or snare sound?  Except at 2:29, I didn't find any really dancable beat.  Maybe that's what you wanted, IDK.  But I feel I'd like this so much more if there was some kind of way I could get my groove on to this song.  :D
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Godslayer on October 18, 2006, 02:29:57 am
(http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/5263/coatii0.png)
First time with colored pencils

(http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/4566/angelwipxo8.png)
Wip christmas card
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Indigo on October 18, 2006, 05:15:40 am
played around with zbrush today.  Quite a nice program.  Took a while for me to figure out how it worked, but the on-screen tutorials helped out alot.

my first zbrush model:
(http://www.spriteart.com/indigo/dump/zbrushtest.PNG)
(http://www.spriteart.com/indigo/dump/alienhead.PNG)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: CrematedPumpkin on October 18, 2006, 10:18:23 pm
Heh, Indigo, that's pretty  :crazy:
What's zbrush, though?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Mega10 on October 19, 2006, 04:43:38 am
school project i started tonight, self-portrait, oil pastel and colored pencil on a cardboard box i had lying around

(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6829/leehead3gk5.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: pkmays on October 23, 2006, 03:10:20 am
Hey Indigo, check out these zBrush video tutorials (http://www.kurvstudios.com/free_tutorials/zbrush_free_tutorials.php?s=-1&u=2131) by Glen Southern.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Lawrence on October 23, 2006, 01:38:59 pm
Here's a little guitar solo (http://lawrence.lh.googlepages.com/SoloInterludePartIV.mp3) I whipped up last night for fun.

I really like that piece Mega10, but the orange lighting in the room makes it hard to see all the colours. :'(

Faktablad, thanks for taking the time to listen/comment on my stuff. I basically always 'make my own stuff' as you put it, with the exception of drum samples, (unless I record my own 'percussion' samples or use drum synths) since I can't play drums. For example, in that w.i.p. Orange Sun, the main synth sound is my own simple sine oscillation put through filters, resampled and cut up into loops, but the drums are sampled from Boards of Canada's 'Seeya Later'. More recently I've been incorporating a lot of guitar playing into my electronic stuff too, I just need a better computer now because the stuff I'm doing nowadays is much more hectic than that Limit 4 song and drains all the memory. Limit 4 was a song all about dispair and hopelessness, heavily inspired by the work of Autechre, so it's not really something I intended to be danced to but I see what you mean.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Helm on October 23, 2006, 01:46:02 pm
Lawrence: less reverb first of all. Nice solo section, try to emphasize intervals that 'lead' the ear somewhere, especially in harmonic relations. A good solo has a little interval progression of its own. Try the same thing, only second bar accent the stable fifth, then perhaps a seventh before resolving on tonic. You'll see your solos will start to be much more 'storytelling' rather than just a collection of interesting textural and aural sounds.

I share some of your musical interests ( AE, BoC ) though I am a Heavy Metal person, so I'll listen to your other songs posted in this thread as well. Since I critiqued you, here's some music (http://www.locustleaves.com/music/Solipsist%20-%20Amm.ogg) in the case you feel up to returning the favour.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Indigo on October 24, 2006, 05:41:27 am
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/calypson/dinohead.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: pkmays on October 24, 2006, 07:24:27 am
Damn. Quite a jump in quality from your previous image.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Lawrence on October 24, 2006, 10:28:30 am
Thanks for the advice Helm. I really like your song. The high-pitch parts in the begining sound great. I think that the calm sounding bit which start at 0:23 starts a bit too soon though, and the 1 second outburst before it doesn't mesh well I don't think. I'd let the energy from that first section blend away into calmness a lot like Squarepusher does in Ultravisitor. The riffs in the calm part are very nice, great song.

Indigo that looks great. :o
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Helm on October 24, 2006, 01:29:50 pm
Good ear on Squarepusher. The drill is an aspect I enjoy. Listen to 'Behold... the Arctopus' for the other aspect making this what it is.

I enjoyed both songs-in-progress you posted above. The Orange needs less critique. The other one, to make the 'fridge falling down the stairs' recursive beats of later AE, don't just hand-place them when they seem natural to fall. Eccentuating what is not natural rhythmically is what you want to do. Make out a numbering schema that will dictate where the beats will fall, either with some program or on a piece of paper. If you have a four-on-four behind it try to use some simple argorhthmical method to provide divisions of 16ths, or even 32s for where the next 'odd' beat will fall. I enjoy the rest of the song, the cadenced beats a lot. It's only the semi-random ones that show you don't have a clear concept of how that sort of stuff should work. I'm not saying go completely procedural with it, a good mid-stream solution. Remember you're working with machines and what music you make with them should be a reminder of the pleasant time you've had together.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Faktablad on October 25, 2006, 03:59:04 am
Helm: What sort of program does one use to open an .ogg file?

Lawrence: Nice little interlude.  I'm partial to reverb myself but that was a bit much.  Good voicings, though.

Another opportunity to return the favor.   :D
He Stole My Spaceship (http://media.putfile.com/He-Stole-My-Spaceship)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Evil-Ville on October 25, 2006, 10:52:41 am
Helm: What sort of program does one use to open an .ogg file?

I know I am not Helm but I am answering anyways: Winamp, xmplay, foobar and deliplayer are the ones I have used that can play ogg files. The only one I know that can't play .ogg files is Windows Media Player.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Helm on October 25, 2006, 04:22:16 pm
I use winamp.

Faktablad: I like your song lots. Reminds me of Tortoise, but not overbearingly so. I keep wanting to hear a wandering bassline though. Good production skill and compositionally robust! Post more please.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Q.K. on October 26, 2006, 02:08:14 am
You *can* actually use Windows media player to open a .ogg file if you want. Check out the illiminable codecs.

http://www.illiminable.com/ogg/
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: .TakaM on October 26, 2006, 07:04:00 am
(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6159/stopad4.png)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: ptoing on October 26, 2006, 11:01:49 am
That fails at being funny, it does not even register as proper nonsense in my brain (me loves nonsense).
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: .TakaM on October 26, 2006, 11:06:53 am
i dunno, most comics on the web are either overbearing nonsense thats just too obnoxious to be funny or just insist on spelling out the humour as if youre retarded. (see (http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/6462/genericomicgn4.png))
infact, I got the idea from another comic:
(http://www.myzanyadventure.com/images/mza18.png)
obviously not-funny as the dude insists on making it crystal clear at how confused he is, when I saw it, I thought it needed more subtlety and to perhaps expand on the idea to make it a bit better

my main goal was not for it to appear obnoxious or pretentious, which I think was reached
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: ptoing on October 26, 2006, 03:10:44 pm
Well, it's not obnoxious or pretentious, but it's not funny either.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Helm on October 26, 2006, 04:41:46 pm
I too, fail to see the humour in this.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: pkmays on October 26, 2006, 07:26:57 pm
If it where a monkey driving the car, it would at least be remotely funny. Monkeys are a cheap way to make anything funny.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: big brother on October 26, 2006, 07:42:12 pm
A stop sign saying "go" is ironic. If the stop sign could somehow emote expression it might work better, especially since the sign is obviously sadistic. I found the idea amusing, but it just shows that humor tends not to be universal.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: ptoing on October 26, 2006, 07:58:00 pm
A stop sign saying "go" is ironic.

Thanks for pointing that out, I almost missed it.  ::)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Larwick on October 26, 2006, 08:56:33 pm
Well i just thought i'd say i found it amusing, and also really liked the drawing style.

The part which triggers the amusement for me is seeing the look on his face, and therefore the way he thinks he's being clever by driving ahead, when in the end he gets his comeuppance. Also, the last frame with the stop sign is quite creepy, i'm not sure i can really describe how i feel about it, but there's a sense of suspicion about the sign which comes with the final frame.

Anyways, i liked it.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Cow on October 26, 2006, 09:23:33 pm
Could always color the sign green. That could help.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/mccow28/osnap.png)
 :huh:
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: big brother on October 26, 2006, 09:55:07 pm
Thanks for pointing that out, I almost missed it.  ::)

And if you think that's a revelation, you should hear me explain soap. :)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: ptoing on October 26, 2006, 10:09:59 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/mccow28/osnap.png)

That image in itself is tons funnier.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Larwick on October 26, 2006, 10:46:27 pm
I must admit, that's great. The stop sign's pose is a bit awkward though.. in the situation. More like 'oops'.  :-*
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Xion on October 26, 2006, 11:43:07 pm
I find TakaM's the most funny. Irony is humor. Mccow's is not funny at all, IMO. The only thing about TakaM's comic that I think is not done as well as it could be is that:
A)The dude isn't surprised by the talking sign and
B)The sign only speaks once.
That fails at being funny, it does not even register as proper nonsense in my brain (me loves nonsense).
Nonsense can sometimes be funny, but I think that the humor comes mostly from unexpected spontaneity(sp?). And irony. Mixing those things makes for hilarity. Spontenirony.


[a few minutes later:]
Oh! I get Mccow's now! It's still not that funny.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Larwick on October 27, 2006, 12:06:36 am
And the fact he isn't surprised by the talking sign or the fact it only speaks once adds to my delight. He could perhaps be imagining it in his tired daze.

Media studies is getting to me.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: .TakaM on October 27, 2006, 12:22:42 am
I wasnt expecting for it to spark such a conversation :P

and on the sign talking only once, I was considering making it "lol" in the last frame or something like:
(http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/5924/5ws5.png)
but when I drew the last frame I came to think it didnt need to be said
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Cow on October 27, 2006, 12:37:34 am
Mine was actually supposed to be jokingly unfunny, FYI. ;D Perhaps even a little tragic.
Quote
I wasnt expecting for it to spark such a conversation  :P
Ah, but what a great topic. The unfunniness of talking signs. :y:
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Conzeit on October 27, 2006, 02:04:33 am
I for one found the original funny.

But I think if anything it's the layout holding it back, seems like you're thinking almost in video/animation rather than comic, since all the panels are even and they alternate for no true reason, I'd even say you got too many frames

You focus too much in making evident the car movement, you could have only one shot of it moving it horizontally, or the close up shots of only the guy's face, you could do both with a shot in the same viewpoint as your close up shots, but whit a little less zoom.

I'd have

1 sidescroller view of the car and the sign.

2 sign says go

3 guy looks

4 sign reads stop

5 mid-shot of the guy speeding confident

6 debris reaching the stopsign (the kills count thing?)

be creative with the way you arrange them too, it gives a lot more emotion if you dont use some regular grid troughout the whole page.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Ryumaru on October 27, 2006, 02:15:34 am
i agree with your points conceit. although i dont think theres too many frames, im sure you know of timing. most sequential art is nothing without timing, especially in the comedy department.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: .TakaM on October 27, 2006, 03:08:51 am
went and made it animated:
(http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2999/animatedstopog4.gif)
pretty cheap I know :P
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: pkmays on October 27, 2006, 03:43:54 am
Good, but in the last shot, it should track back to the stop sign, not jump to it.

I predict it'll take at least another 2 pages until we all get over this whole stop sign thing.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Conzeit on October 27, 2006, 04:59:48 am
I predict it'll take at least another 2 pages until we all get over this whole stop sign thing.

I think that'd kick ass :p...you know...the language of montage and timing in jokes is pretty...mysterious =O but I predict now that I am interested everyone will get bored :p

I get it a looot more clearly now TakaM, I can see why every shot was there...

I would have never imagined the car to be parked next to the stop sign....I think that's pretty good proof that you were thinking animation heh.

I for one think the animation looks pretty good for what it is, kinda reminds me of MetalGearSolid DGN in a way :p
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Frychiko on October 27, 2006, 10:37:10 am
Heh, I enjoyed the original too, and nice to see it animated.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Rox on October 27, 2006, 10:02:50 pm
Now someone make a scene where a stop sign is yelling at another stop sign for driving while the car was red.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: sevenfingers on October 27, 2006, 10:07:45 pm
(http://sevenfingers.awwright.com/guesstheceleb.jpg)

guess the celeb... single-line for the lineart, used a ref...
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Faktablad on October 28, 2006, 03:24:06 am
Kinda reminds me of Jaco Pastorius.

 ???
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Nix on October 28, 2006, 11:01:12 pm
went and made it animated:
(http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2999/animatedstopog4.gif)
pretty cheap I know :P

lol.. that makes it much better. i mean.. its not super funny.. but it is giggle material :)

also.. at the end, as suggested, move slowly to the stop sing to start the loop. also.. add a tire bounce :D

Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: pkmays on October 29, 2006, 01:05:43 am
Tire bounce; good idea.

Okay, tire bounce, track to stop sign, fade to black, loop. That way there's no confusion on where the joke should end.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Godslayer on October 29, 2006, 01:15:44 am
(http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/5471/chimerabc5.jpg)

Chimera
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Xion on October 29, 2006, 02:31:21 am
Now someone make a scene where a stop sign is yelling at another stop sign for driving while the car was red.
What?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: ptoing on October 29, 2006, 04:35:45 am
Seven: Benicio Del Toro?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Evil-Ville on October 29, 2006, 11:35:22 am
What?

(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8198/shinycargc1.png)

Edit: Bah just noticed it said driving. I suck at reading
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Faktablad on October 31, 2006, 02:53:59 am
Continuing the stop-sign comic trend.
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/Faktablad/stop.png)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Tisha on October 31, 2006, 07:46:53 pm
You know!, I just started taking driving lessons today...
heh!... :P
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Indigo on November 01, 2006, 07:35:53 am
thanks for the idea guys.  I took a stop-sign from a post and used it as my halloween costume.  Everybody loved it....except for the people in the car that crashed shortly after i took the sign
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Lawrence on November 01, 2006, 07:11:21 pm
Rendrox Beat-Flex (http://lawrence.lh.googlepages.com/RendroxBeat-Flexworkinprogress.mp3) (Early Work In Progress)
This is the very begining of one of the main songs I'm currently working on. Not much there yet but see what you think. :)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Godslayer on November 01, 2006, 08:41:02 pm
(http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/2404/handms1.jpg)

IN A WORLD...

Where Social Stuides is so unbearably boring...

And your only canvas...

IS YOUR OWN HAND!

And your teacher...

Sees the work in progress...

As simply...

DIE!

It does not bode well...

At least...

I LOOKED LIKE A STUD!
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Indigo on November 02, 2006, 07:43:29 am
haha, I remember countess times where my whole hand and arm would be completely covered in ink by the end of class.  Nice work there, godslayer.

yay for singing! yay for A Capella!
http://www.spriteart.com/indigo/dump/nearer.wav

my bass voice wasn't up for singing today. but yeah, All parts sung by me.

(you might have to turn up the volume a little.  It recorded kinda quite)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Godslayer on November 02, 2006, 09:12:05 pm
(http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/269/purgatory0001bp3.jpg)

IN A WORLD

Where one topic dominates your Religion class...

Godslayer must...

Draw on his most convieniant surface...

HIS OWN HAND!

The only thing...

That he can think of...

PURGA

TORY?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Helm on November 02, 2006, 09:17:01 pm
Yeah my right hand used to be covered in various things at times in high-school. It gets odd when other people ask that you do it for them.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Lick on November 02, 2006, 09:20:15 pm
I like the turfing in the last frame, it would really make it funnier.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Godslayer on November 02, 2006, 09:49:51 pm
Yeah my right hand used to be covered in various things at times in high-school. It gets odd when other people ask that you do it for them.

Yeah, I told them to let me borrow their hand for a couple hours and I could do it.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: robalan on November 02, 2006, 11:37:01 pm
@Indigo: That was a nice song.  Did you write it?  The only negative comment I have is that you may have had a bit too much vibrato for the style.  Other than that, it sounded quite good.  I should try doing that some time.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: ptoing on November 02, 2006, 11:52:04 pm
Poop

(http://ptoing.net/orangesweaterdistofones.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Indigo on November 03, 2006, 12:45:45 am
@Indigo: That was a nice song.  Did you write it?  The only negative comment I have is that you may have had a bit too much vibrato for the style.  Other than that, it sounded quite good.  I should try doing that some time.

thanks man.  nah, the song is a pretty well-known hymn through various christian religions.  I think your right about the vabrato...so i re-recorded it.

better?
http://www.spriteart.com/indigo/dump/nearer1.wav
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: CrumbBread on November 03, 2006, 01:35:16 am
Takam, your cartoon is very fun. ^_^ I thought it was very amusing, save for the fact that he crashes into a building. Because, duh, couldn't he see the building regardless of what the stop sign says? Far better for him to be blindsided by another car in the direction he did not look, tragic and cruel though it may be.

<3 The stop sign cartoons are almost all hilarious =D
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: robalan on November 03, 2006, 07:54:08 pm
Yeah, that sounds better.  Out of curiosity, what are you using to record and compile the tracks?  I've got Audacity, but I wonder if there's something else that could be useful.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Godslayer on November 03, 2006, 10:46:28 pm
(http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/5189/gnarghlg1.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Terley on November 03, 2006, 11:12:58 pm
nice self graffiti art, you're hand looks pretty tanned there GS, im white like a ghost  :D

I used to draw fake tatoo's and such all up my left arm in High school but if we were caught 'graffiti-ing ourselves' we were elegable for up to a week of detention time.  :huh:..

that rocks ptoing, acrylic?.. nevermind.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Godslayer on November 03, 2006, 11:17:26 pm
Ha, I'm so white I edit my skins' contrast before posting.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: pkmays on November 05, 2006, 03:37:44 am
(http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pixelscheme1ky8.png) (http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pixelscheme2uk7.png)

w00t!!1
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Peppermint Pig on November 05, 2006, 11:05:45 am
Pumpkins from this season. I rushed the Tetris carving as I was feeling ill.

(http://virtual.dyc.edu/~peppermint/temporary/tetrispumpkin.jpg)

(http://virtual.dyc.edu/~peppermint/temporary/snake_coil.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Rox on November 05, 2006, 06:17:58 pm
Pep. No one will ever care that you rushed that pumpkin.

It's a Tetris pumpkin.

That's all that matters.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: miascugh on November 06, 2006, 06:04:04 pm
Pep: Haha, that's great :D

pk: :)

(http://miascugh.ptoing.net/cg/15.jpg)
Heavily inspired by the green thing of the Shadow of the Beast CC-Challenge.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Mirre on November 06, 2006, 08:55:41 pm
Pep: Man, those pumpkins are sooo cool. Especially the Tetris one, what an awesome concept!

Here's some art I did of two of my original characters:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/Mirre/images/borealis3.jpg)
They're of an amphibic alien race called Calanthra, copyright the Private Exchange community. They're also siamese twins, and designed/named after the flower Linnéa Borealis (Twinflower).

And... I've been taking pottery classes. I just got my first ceramics-thing back! We were pretty restricted as we had to do something in that precise shape to learn the basics, and this is also my first glazing so I had no idea what it'd look like when finished. It is a pen/pencilholder, and it portrays a baby/fetus >3< ...I glazed it two times and carved out the shape of the baby in-between, but the second time some of the glaze caked off, so that's why it's so dark at some places... kind of looks like shading though. I also forgot to carve out the shape of the hairlock the second time so it's almost covered in glaze... durrh.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/Mirre/images/penholderbaby.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: pkmays on November 07, 2006, 04:46:50 am

"Suck on some torps you Coalition skum!"

Low poly modeling has a certain charm to it similar to pixel art. Now all this bad boy needs is a big old low resolution texture. : ]

miascugh, that's sexy.

Mirre, very clean rendering.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Helm on November 07, 2006, 04:49:15 am
pkmays: for the love of god, flatshade!
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: pkmays on November 07, 2006, 05:02:39 am
Oh wow sorry.

Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Helm on November 07, 2006, 05:41:55 am
nono that's fine heh, I didn't mean in the render. I'm one of these odd people who thinks flatshaded+colored lowpoly (like the characters in Alone in the Dark look better than the characters in Resident Evil) looks a million times better than lowpoly with textured skin. I think the aesthetic is more cohesive without pixels battling angles over surfaces. Only at hipoly and with shaders do textures begin to pleasingly converge with triangles until they seem to belong together. We had this discussion over a robot AdamAtomic made a long time ago. Maybe you should search for the thread it would be of interest to you. Pretty easy as AdamAtomic hasn't made many threads of his own here. If you can't find it tell and I'll search. I think it has 'robot' or 'robo' at least in the thread name.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: pkmays on November 07, 2006, 06:19:44 am
Ah okay Helm. I'll look it up. But I have fond memories just drooling over big bulky textures in Tenchu and Metal Gear Solid.



Okay, I've officially had too much fun in Wings today. The madness stops here.

[edit]

Found the thread here (http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?topic=1765.0).

Wow, I'm in love. Helm, you're completely insane. Absolutely apeshit insane.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Helm on November 07, 2006, 08:46:20 pm
What's so insane, heh? Our friend eric colossal (http://mrcolossal.livejournal.com/) (check his comics he's a genius) has been doing low-poly flatshaded characters for a while and I think they look much, much better than the textured lowpoly shit we usually see.

(http://kafkaskoffee.com/images/3d/farts/mike1.gif)

(http://kafkaskoffee.com/junk/beast_rigged.gif)

and so on. I love the stop sign. It looks very cohesive artwise. No stupid texture to work around with, just PURE 3D haha.

Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Godslayer on November 09, 2006, 02:33:21 am
(http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8753/meme2xv9.jpg)
Selfportrait, it's terrible I know.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: junkboy on November 11, 2006, 03:58:31 pm
Lots of sweet stuff in this thread :)

Here's a Lupin III illustration I did recently.
(http://i9.tinypic.com/2emz87t.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Godslayer on November 11, 2006, 04:37:19 pm
(http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2002/meme3kd4.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Evil-Ville on November 11, 2006, 05:31:50 pm
Is there any way to render models without light in Wings 3D? I've tried everything. I even downloaded blender to see if I could do it in it but the interface was too shitty.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Keops on November 11, 2006, 05:40:10 pm
Wow junkboy, that Lupin illustration is teh awesome!

Gawd, I love that!
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Faktablad on November 11, 2006, 06:48:59 pm
A movie I made recently.

CLICK HERE (http://media.putfile.com/A-Million-Miles-of-Sky)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Keops on November 11, 2006, 07:25:49 pm
Does anyone know a site where I can find a shockwave flash version of the classic Pong game? Not any Pong "extreme" re-makes, just the classic, white paddles black bg version :3 Haven't gotten any luck searching for it.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: robalan on November 11, 2006, 07:37:14 pm
junkboy, that illustration is sweet.

Faktablad, that video was pretty cool.  Something to recommend if you want to walk around a bunch is this (http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/): a cheap steadycam.  It'll help keep the video from jerking crazily.  The mood was very nicely captured, but then the camera started jumping around and it was ruined for me.  Otherwise, cool vid.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Larwick on November 11, 2006, 09:39:22 pm
Lots of sweet stuff in this thread :)

Here's a Lupin III illustration I did recently.
http://i9.tinypic.com/2emz87t.jpg

Awh dude, this is the kind of stuff which inspires me. Really awesome!  :0' ^-^
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Faktablad on November 12, 2006, 04:07:10 am
A sort of experiment in which I give myself 15 minutes to fully compose, mix and finalize a song in GarageBand.  Here's the first result:

http://media.putfile.com/15-Minutes-1
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Terley on November 13, 2006, 01:39:02 am
(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9438/mekissxv2.jpg) (http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1250/photowithtextco9.jpg)

Don't use photoshop much, made myself into a band member :D . project was to make some images based on a Band, using my own photography. My hair is my avatar's length, had to photoshop in more.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Evil-Ville on November 13, 2006, 10:20:56 am
Behold, my first 3D model ever! With half-assed textures index painted in pro-motion!

(http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/3306/frogman4rs8.png)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Rox on November 13, 2006, 08:59:51 pm
Ah yes, I guess I said I'd post my 3D stuff, also. So here's MY first full character in 3D. I put myself in a pickle and only got one weekend to UV map and texture the whole thing, which is WAY TOO LITTLE TIME considering I only ever did one UV map before this time, and that was for a human head... So, very rushed textures and material settings. The physical model, though, I'm pleased with.


(http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/654/wolf1zs1.jpg)


Mind you, I too like low-poly models (or at least un-subdivided relatively low-poly ones, around the Unreal Tournament era), but since this was a school project, it was required to be 25000+ polygons, and I had a deadline and all that junk. I think the mask is what I'm most pleased with, for some reason... I think it's the way the color map, bump map, specular map and reflection map all work together in harmony.


(http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/8373/wolf2hn5.jpg)


I've got another thingy going for school right now. I might post it if I get it to work in time.

[edit] Mirre, those guys are joined by the hip, right? How the heck do they get their underwear on?? [/edit]
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Lackey on November 14, 2006, 07:34:43 pm
Some great stuff happening on this thread.  I love to see what people are working on.  I've been interested in spacesuit design recently:
(http://individual.utoronto.ca/lackey/paint/spacesuit10.png)(http://individual.utoronto.ca/lackey/paint/spacesuit11.png)

Also some more flatshade love:
ULTRA low-poly model (http://individual.utoronto.ca/lackey/loose/lowpoly_autocrat.png)
a rough attempt at a spaceship model (http://individual.utoronto.ca/lackey/loose/flatshadespaceshipdoodle.png)
Rough models made in Wings.  I'm still suck though.  Wish I could change the lighting, I want some full saturation and brightness colours!

Not made by me at all, but still amusing:
Jedi Knight in flatshade mode (http://individual.utoronto.ca/lackey/loose/flatshadejk.png)

And on another front entirely I've proposed a more universal redesign of the familiar male/female washroom icons. (http://individual.utoronto.ca/lackey/loose/washroom_signs2b.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Mirre on November 14, 2006, 08:23:57 pm
Junkboy: that Lupin III-illu is awesome :o I love your inking style... how big is the original? Your whole style remind me a bit about Hans Arnold (if you know who that is).


Two of the reasons why the mermaid-update took ages:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/Mirre/images/grattisnilschristian.jpg)
Birthday-card for a 13-year-old Warhammer addict. All muscles on this orc are probably wrong because I don't draw muscular people that often.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/Mirre/images/lenus.jpg)
Halloween Exchange picture for Evey Wong... that's her character dressed up as a vampire.

Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: ptoing on November 14, 2006, 08:45:09 pm
(http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/654/wolf1zs1.jpg)

Woah, blast from the past! Looks like really old, early 90s stuff. I think some of the detail you have in the bump you could have modelled given the fact you have 25k polys at hand. Also it's too uniformly smooth all over the place, looks blobby, if you know what I mean.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Rox on November 14, 2006, 08:57:48 pm
Yeah, I'm quite aware of every single flaw in that thing. I wasn't really motivated, seeing as I got started on it too late, and was forced to do a particular style, under a deadline and all that. I promise you awesome things when I get started on private projects.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Zach on November 15, 2006, 03:52:45 am
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/img048.png)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/img047.png)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/img046.png)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/img044.jpg)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/img043.jpg)


these are all like 10x better in person, mind you.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: junkboy on November 16, 2006, 01:36:50 am
Keops, robalan , Larwick: Thanks guys!
Mirre: Thanks! Yeah, I know Arnold, he's a fellow countryman after all. The original resolution (it's all CG) is 800x1000. Great work on that Halloween-picture btw, I like the way you shaded the shirt-folds.
Zach: That last image (the guy with the sword) is ace, you should turn it into a full-blown illustration!
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Zach on November 16, 2006, 02:09:18 am
thinkin' about it... I need to get back into that stuff and that'd be a great piece to work on :)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: ptoing on November 18, 2006, 01:50:04 am
speedpaint
(http://www.ptoing.net/girlbluered3.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Frychiko on November 18, 2006, 07:44:28 am
Nice one ptoing.

Speedpaint from last night:
(http://www.frychiko.com/stuff/butcher.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Helm on November 18, 2006, 06:03:57 pm
(http://www.locustleaves.com/speedthing3.png)

Speedpaint
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Ryona on November 19, 2006, 06:35:58 am
Great stuff, people!

Indeed that Lupin pic is awesome.

I like your characters and style, Mirre. I especially like the one with those two girls in the bed.

That's a nice portrait pic you made there, ptoing. I like her relaxed posture.

And that pic you made there, Helm is awesome. I'm a fan of monochromatic art, and your pic there has wonderful texture and tones. Love the design too.


So... Here's some of my artwork...


(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/Ryona_Satana/InTheDark.jpg)


(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/Ryona_Satana/Peek.jpg)


(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/Ryona_Satana/Charlotte.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: pkmays on November 21, 2006, 04:00:18 am




Our final project in Multimedia II is to make a howto. I chose to do a step-by-step of the above, despite my relative n00b-ness to Wings. I'll also be recording some video of the actual modeling process, so it should turn out pretty spiffy.

Ryona - cute character. Reminds me of La Femme Nikita (the movie).

Helm - nice atmosphere. Remotely reminded me of Gnaw (http://www.portalgraphics.net/oc/en/pages/user/profile/contribute.asp?user_id=2664).

Evil-Ville - I likes. You can make the polygons flat shaded in Wings by creating an ambient light and swithing to scene lights. I also think there's some trick to displaying the textures without interpolation, but my memory fails me.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Helm on November 21, 2006, 09:45:15 am
Oh wow, I didn't know this Gnaw. My influence is Max Ernst, google him.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: ptoing on November 21, 2006, 12:15:31 pm
And that Gnaw guy is a Amano clone pretty much.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Lawrence on November 21, 2006, 09:27:24 pm
I'm getting back into anim8or with this WiP :y:
(http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/2154499930ship1.gif)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on November 21, 2006, 11:05:43 pm
Zach, I love those sketches. I think you should really finish some of them.
Also, may I have a higher res version of the third page? (I wish to attempt coloring!)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Evil-Ville on November 21, 2006, 11:17:42 pm
Used pretty much every 'dirty tool' imaginable TO DEATH. The amount of blending makes me cringe.
(http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/2564/penor2bt1.png)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: calle_ on November 21, 2006, 11:30:54 pm
way paint thread.

Animation style illustration test.....
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/Calle_/PPP.png)

A few concepts for an RPG we did at nancy-6  (www.nancy-6.com we make games if you wanna jump on a projects just PM=))
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/Calle_/NinjaISHcopy.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/Calle_/Magic1copy.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/Calle_/SnubbenColor2.jpg)


and other random spare time crap..
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/Calle_/blahaly.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/Calle_/ROboe2copy.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/Calle_/Man.png)

 Other version.. kinda liked it in its own way too.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/Calle_/Jennifer.png)


c_.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Evil-Ville on November 22, 2006, 07:11:47 pm
More stupid monochrome index painting :)
(http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/8171/jurmunger2vk2.png)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: pkmays on November 24, 2006, 04:51:57 am
Hmmm. I'm gonna have to get in on this whole index painting thing. Awesome job Evil-Ville


uberWIP. Painter IX frustrastes me.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Ryumaru on November 24, 2006, 06:00:11 am
lookin real sexy, pkmays.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: pkmays on November 24, 2006, 06:43:54 am
Gee, thanks. But uh, what about the painting?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Helm on November 24, 2006, 09:55:57 am
ear lenghts are uneven. It's not rendered enough for more critique, if you want it.

a bit of a meta-critique, do you really want to dabble in what almost everybody else on the internet digital-paints lately? The dreaded Deviant Art curse and everything? Just a thought. If I'm crossing any bars I'll shut up.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: pkmays on November 24, 2006, 10:03:04 am
Yes, the ears are uneven. Will fix. I'd love to get a full critique from you, but in a more appropriate location. Say, ConceptArt.org? And I'm not interested in politics, if that's what the dA remark is referring to.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Helm on November 24, 2006, 10:17:11 am
I sadly don't frequent any other critique forums than this and certainly not unrestricted photoshop level fora, since I don't consider myself equipped or good enough to rub shoulders with the type of renderers they've got there. I'm a comic book artist, not an illustrator, it would be a diversion that would hurt my -sequential- work to focus on concepting and render quality at this stage. (Also, I am easily tired of "girl + gun + mecha - underwear" type of artwork and if I were to critique it for a long time I'd just sound embittered and annoying)

That being said, I can see things worth discussing in your piece, a few of them technical, a few of them conceptual, and a few as you say... political. I dunno.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: pkmays on November 24, 2006, 10:55:11 am
You'll make an absolutely stellar crotchety old man one day.

Anyway, this whole conversation is the result of a mistake on my part. My comment, "Gee, thanks. But uh, what about the painting?" was meant to look as though I misinterpreted Ryumaru's comment "lookin real sexy, pkmays." as "[you are] lookin real sexy, pkmays." It probably would have been clearer had I replied with something more like "Gee, I'm flattered you feel that way about me, but I was actually wondering what you thought about the painting." Alas, foresight is a bitch, and instead of creating a humorous and whimsical dialog in which Ryumaru defends his sexual preferences (which as I understand is generally held to be a source of endless amusement among the 13-30 year old male populace), here I am authoring a semi-apologetic blurb of one who's carefully laid plans have gone awry (which, while mildly funny in it's own right, draws it's humor at my expense, rather than at Ryumaru's. In this way, my plan has essentially backfired, leaving me even more the fool had I simply continued to capitalize on Helm's misinterpretation of my original reply and continued steering the dialog towards a critique request). If I had the chance to do it all over again, I would want do the wise thing. Instead of inserting a quick and cheap smart-ass quip, I would have turned off my monitor and curled up with a good book or worked on improving my Algebra. Once again life has thrown me what I thought to be lemons, but what I hoped would be a cool refreshing pitcher of ice cold lemonade was in fact, warm...bitter...pee pee.

And so I leave you for now, humiliated, ashamed, and utterly defeated.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Helm on November 24, 2006, 01:28:00 pm
...but you *are* sexy!

EDIT: enough fucking around. Critique it is.

(http://www.locustleaves.com/anatomydevil.png)

http://www.locustleaves.com/anatomydevil.psd if you need it.

From the top:

A: face is on a different perspective plane than the body in your piece. Given the underlying structure of the perspective, it would have to be tiled up more, likeso. Don't worry about realistic...er facial anatomy, this is just to explain the effect, I'm not telling you to draw it like that in the end. Now, to be fair, besides the tilt, the face would also have to be SCEWED a lot, on the same vanishing point that the rest of the body adheres to. Why didn't I do this? Because especially with women faces, it's difficult. Especially on long shot where facial characteristics are difficult to capture in few lines.

B: The collarkbones were misplaced in your original I think, given again, the pretty drastic perspective. The way the neck connects to the collarbones is important to mind, too.

C: find navel, it is two heads lower than the head, extend line to arm, that is where the joint is. Give or take for stylistics

D : that arm is difficult for me. My mind wants to go 'underutilized! but hell, what to do with it? I'm not good enough to answer.

E: I understand it may be stylistic choice, but that hand was way too low.

F: knees are hard. I'm just point it out.

G: Now here is where I don't know if you're making mistakes or if it's just unfinished. Anyway, take special attention to how the body shifts weight and maintains balance where it meets the ground. When you've rendered this more it will be easier to tell what you've got going on, but there's a chance you've made the shins too long (about half a head too long).

That's about anatomy. I have a bit of a problem with the center of gravity, she seems a bit weightless... a bit, fashion-show catwalk girl in etherial mid-stride, maybe that's the style you wanted, and she's not human so...

About rendering, from the places where it is more worked, I can tell it is good, very oily, very Painterly, a lot of people are doing that same technique, but we said, you don't care about politics. I like this, the biggest issue is that the face needs to be reintroduced in the same perspective to keep it cohesive.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Checkworth on November 24, 2006, 06:14:08 pm
Your quip made sense to *me*.  :lol:
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: pkmays on November 24, 2006, 08:41:16 pm
I see the problem with the face. I drew the chin as if her head where angled down, but here nose is drawn as if here head where angled up. It's also not centered to her face. Redrawing the nose should fix it.

Collar bones where WAY off, repositioned.

I've always had problems with elongating anatomy too much, it's not a stylistic decision. I'll be shortening the neck, arms, thighs, and shins.

The foreground arm is in a precarious position. I think it'll be very close and slightly in front of her hip. It's best to clearly convey it's position in space and avoid ambiguity. Having the arm cast a shadow on the hip might help.

Thanks for reminding me where the naval is, I used to have it memorized, but I've grown some mental cobwebs over the past couple of years.

Still looks slightly unbalanced. I'll probably move her back leg in to make it look more like a sexy strut. Cheesy? Maybe.

Technique. I'm actually not too fond of the style. I've got a general mental picture of what I want to achieve eventually. Broad, bold paint strokes, less blending, much more saturation and contrast. I'm sick and tired of seeing bland pastel renderings! But really, the whole story behind this piece was that I've had Painter sitting dormant on my PC for over half a year, initially dejected because of it's clunky UI. I'm trying to get past the programs flaws and concentrate on it's incredible brush engine. Once I get comfortable with this blasted thing, I can move away from the easy blendy smeary oily style.

[edit]

Arms are still too long. Will be moving hands up and shortening humerus.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: surt on November 25, 2006, 01:58:24 am
Still haven't got around to finishing coding a proper gallery, so I've hacked out a cheap static gallery. As well as being no web programmer, I am also no web designer, but hopefully it is functional and bugless. Within that context any crits would be good.

Also reworked some old pieces a little when seeing the heinous colour counts.

I stole the javascript zooming code from here, I presume its still the stuff ZeroByte made available (all links I could find to the original posting were dead), and that its okay for me to use, if not please let me know.

http://surtspixels.googlepages.com/index.html
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: pkmays on November 25, 2006, 02:30:26 am
Hate the colors. Way too much saturation on the background. Reminds me of early '90s birth of the Internet web pages. Desaturate and darken some, should make it look much more professional.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: surt on November 25, 2006, 02:41:08 am
Okay all background colours desat and darkend.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Zach on November 25, 2006, 03:40:24 am
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/img050.jpg)

doomed cover ripoff, check it.


JUNK:
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/donald2.png)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/nursing.png)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/techno.png)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: pkmays on November 25, 2006, 05:38:49 am
(http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=surtwebpage1ne6.png) VS (http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=surtwebpage2bj6.png)

This is getting into the real of aesthetics, but I find my edit to be much easier on the eyes and more legible. The desaturated blues don't bleed in with the sprites as much, and the subtle background makes the color on the sprites pop more. Bland backgrounds can force the viewer to focus on the actual content, not the presentation.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Helm on November 25, 2006, 11:34:36 am
Pkmays, almost all adressed points bettered to the best I can see. Congrats. I forgot to tell you that I applaud your choice of physique - in that she looks like a real person, hips and all and not like a withered unpersonable boy-girl that the internet demographic loves so much. Extra points for -though somewhat cliched, applied to great effect here- the hand gestures. Hands are so expressive. I hear you on Painter being a bit UI-challenged. When you get your custom brush container with your blender and oil variations and stuff, you end up not using much else so it gets pretty streamlined after that.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Ryumaru on November 25, 2006, 06:07:09 pm
pkmays, sexy as in great painting, rendering, pallette and etc. not just the sex appeal of the subject.

edit: oh and, definitely not the sex appeal of the member. no idea where you got that from ???
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: ptoing on November 26, 2006, 05:18:33 am
might as well post this, wonder if the thread title should be getting a nudity tag now :/

(http://www.ptoing.net/faint2.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: pkmays on November 26, 2006, 05:37:59 am
ptoing: I'm not sure about a nudity tag, but there definitely needs to be a TERRIFYING ZOMBIE WOMAN tag. Anyway, nice job on sculpting the shapes with light and shade. That's actually a lot like the style I'm wanting to get down. The eyes do throw me off though. The colors give me the impression that she's not from around here.


(http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/2721/devilgirlwip2hx4.jpg)

Pending any other mistakes that are pointed out, I'm going to move forward from here and finish this blasted thing.

Helm, the fact that you limit your critiques and perceptive insights solely to this forum is a crime against humanity. Baby Jesus is crying.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Helm on November 26, 2006, 01:36:35 pm
Lovely costume update, very smooth rendering. I want to eat her. Watch out for the flat of the feet where they touch the ground, they should be a bit bigger, no?

Quote
Helm, the fact that you limit your critiques and perceptive insights solely to this forum is a crime against humanity. Baby Jesus is crying.

Pixelation is my home. Fuck the jesus.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Rydin on November 26, 2006, 06:23:32 pm
Pixelation is my home. Fuck the jesus.

One of the best quotes I've heard in a long time; it's one for me to save  :y:.



(btw, I guess this doesn't really add anything to the pile, so delete it if it's in the way)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Kennethfejer on November 28, 2006, 02:41:33 am
meet the cubes:
(http://www.kennethfejer.dk/test/cubes.png)
(58 polygons each)
texturesize: 128x128

they are for a 3d mockup im currently playing around with.
heres a little video, so you can see them all.
http://www.kennethfejer.dk/test/cubes.avi (3 mb)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Cow on November 28, 2006, 05:53:25 am
Wow. Very cute. Almost as cute as Ptoing's flesh eating kitten. <3

And I love that, pkmays. Dunno about the hair, something about it bugs me, other than that it's great. :y:
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Rerg1 on November 29, 2006, 06:18:21 pm
Ptoing should set up a man eating kitten breeding company.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Locrian on November 30, 2006, 01:22:25 pm
Hmm forgot about this place and all its awesome pixel pushers.  I gotta do some pixeling over winter break.  Seems everyone is awesome at other mediums as well.  Dig the tree Helm.  and that B&W face, calle.  Heres something I'm messing with, about stuntdevils or something.  Kinda cheese:

(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c41/Burtzum/stuntdevils.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Zach on November 30, 2006, 08:29:12 pm
what kind of medium is that?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Ryumaru on November 30, 2006, 10:02:30 pm
pyramid head:
(http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/9707/pyramidheadyj7.png)
churis+:
http://www.churist.neth.pl/

im gonna do some more of this stuff if i get a tablet for christmas.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Q.K. on December 01, 2006, 03:30:48 am
I figured I could tie this in somehow with graphics and music at the same time... :P

I just saw this http://rd.yahoo.co.jp/tokushu/5cm/teaser01/?http://i.yimg.jp/images/evt/5cm/teaser8000k1280_720.wmv a while ago, and felt like writing a piano piece similar to that. It's a big download, but definitely worth it. It's a 45 second clip of some high definition anime trailer (Copyright Makoto Shinkai). Not normally into anime, but whatever, this is more about the music actually :P.

Anywho, here's the actual song http://media.putfile.com/Yuki-86 that I wrote.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Rydin on December 03, 2006, 02:25:59 am
(http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/6969/pict0272ui9.jpg)


Painted this like a year or two ago for school.

Based it off a color indexed (each square had a number, each number was given a color) , enlarged, black and white printout of the sprite, then I painted the right color onto the grid on the canvas....not skill really, just patience.....but I got an A on it....mostly because the teacher didn't know what to think.  :lol:
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Locrian on December 03, 2006, 08:13:51 am
what kind of medium is that?

oil.

heres a nudie.  i need a bigger brush.
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c41/Burtzum/redhead.jpg?t=1165133486)

and something else
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c41/Burtzum/sterling.jpg?t=1165133775)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Helm on December 03, 2006, 11:10:22 am
That caricature is wonderfulness.

Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: skw on December 03, 2006, 11:48:55 am
Fenriz? The pose reminds me of their funny interview videos. Splendid!
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Zach on December 09, 2006, 08:28:42 pm
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/jesus.png) ref'd

EDIT:
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/eric.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Rerg1 on December 09, 2006, 08:33:44 pm
Ubder Seks.
I was gonna post on Punjia where the refernce was that you made the chin chubbyer than in the ref.
Post it here.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Frychiko on December 10, 2006, 08:43:45 am
Nice work zach, more please!

More grammatical and spelling error mayhem!
Ubder Seks (I understand this 'k' to be intentional).
I was gonna post on Punjia where the refernce was that you made the chin chubbyer than in the ref.
Post it here.

Ok, I've picked enough on young kiddies for one day. I'm sick and waiting for my mabodofu to be cooked...

Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Zach on December 10, 2006, 07:54:14 pm
it's punaji.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Sherman Gill on December 11, 2006, 06:35:04 am
It's an awesome painting Zach. I noticed it's the same pose as your avatar, though :P.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: shaheen on December 13, 2006, 05:30:20 am
Some caricatures I did for an economics school project. We were to make a product and sell it, while trying to make a profit. Sold 11/20 prints, and made a 100 percent profit. Did a sketch in MS Paint, cheaply livetraced them in Adobe Illustrator for high resolution images and then drew some upper bodies. Overall took about 45 minutes. Some balancing issues, but I think they work out well considering they're caricatures and I didn't spend too much time on them.

Oh, and the two guys are principals at my school.


Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on December 16, 2006, 11:53:39 pm
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n118/TheBoBslow/pngimagephotoshops-2.png)

Yay! First time virgin, posting here with a ps 7 piece. Hope to get the hang of this thing in the future..
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Skull on December 17, 2006, 10:53:38 am
I'm still working on it a bit.. but my intention is to fit a web layout around it.

(http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/7330/libertyxm6.png)

And that's some really impressive work B.O.B  :y:
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Feron on December 17, 2006, 02:23:04 pm

(http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/2721/devilgirlwip2hx4.jpg)

[/quote

awesome rendering.  i prefered the hair on the original though.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: SplatPixel on December 18, 2006, 01:09:28 pm
just got myself a tablet, did this little drawing just to get use to it. i love this damn thing. too bad i just started learning 3d, i really would like to model this, heh.

(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4661/bufffigzt5.jpg)

damn... did i miss out on the santa sign up thing?... that sux. guess i have to make a gift for everyone then.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Frychiko on December 18, 2006, 01:26:14 pm
Yeah tables are awesome, I hate drawing on the floor :p
I hope you don't end up back with the mouse for drawing/pixeling (unfortunate fate for some)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: AlienQuark on December 18, 2006, 08:45:36 pm
Yeah tables are awesome, I hate drawing on the floor :p
I hope you don't end up back with the mouse for drawing/pixeling (unfortunate fate for some)


Ain't it the truth. :crazy:
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: alkaline on December 19, 2006, 04:36:16 am
I'm sick and waiting for my mabodofu to be cooked...

I don't like that stuff.  :ouch:

As for tablets, I love that stuff.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: AlienQuark on December 19, 2006, 03:36:06 pm
Concept for a personal mental endeavor of mine.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/AlienQuark/12-18-2006024101PM.jpg)

Tried a second one. I think some things I did better, while others worked out nicer on the first one.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/AlienQuark/12-19-2006101708AM.jpg)

Personal crits:

- Left (his right) foot is just fucked. Feet are weird.
- I think I made him too fat, he was supposed to be more like a muscular fat, not obese fat.
- Man boobs are uneven... didn't catch this until after scanning. Fuck.
- Attempt at some perspective using on this kinda failed... it was supposed to be as if you were like the height of his toe looking up at him... think I know how I could better achieve this next time though.
- As a result of the last crit, the head turned out different than I wanted, I like the first head more, but that's really just personal preference.

It's suppose to have a relation to this:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/AlienQuark/amorphous-1.gif)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Evil-Ville on December 20, 2006, 12:03:43 am
Trying to get used to my tablet that I've already owned for months. I need to stop drawing ugly creatures from profile perspective like this. :(
(http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4929/dolphinqu7.png)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Terley on December 20, 2006, 03:11:41 am
(http://img345.imageshack.us/img345/427/terlinatorot9.jpg)

hahaha  :P
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on December 20, 2006, 04:27:49 am
...I need to stop drawing ugly creatures from profile perspective like this. :(

Know what you mean. I always seem to draw just simple character designs. Although there is no background work in any of my galleries, I admit that I have tried drawing each scene out a billion times, and each time the background just came out looking like shite. I still practice drawing them to this day. Maybe I'll try and post something, and you guys could try and help me with it.

@Terley: lol, you silly bastard...
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: SplatPixel on December 23, 2006, 05:20:41 pm
random tablet stuff
(http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/9991/tabhg9.png)
his leg are pretty stupid lookin, gotta fix those, heh.
(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4356/splathellboygn3.gif)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: The B.O.B. on December 24, 2006, 05:08:29 am
Awesome work splat. Haven't seen some of your shiz in a while. Get off your lazy hiney, and start pixelin' again man! Oh, and you have to finish that Rabbit from Rayman. It's dying to be colored...
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: gliding on December 24, 2006, 09:05:05 am
No Splat, you gotta finish the guy next to that awesomely stlyized boxer. The hue shifting is very pro.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Ragnarok on December 24, 2006, 12:37:55 pm
Know what you mean. I always seem to draw just simple character designs. Although there is no background work in any of my galleries, I admit that I have tried drawing each scene out a billion times, and each time the background just came out looking like shite. I still practice drawing them to this day. Maybe I'll try and post something, and you guys could try and help me with it.

Weird, since for me it's the exact opposite. I can draw landscapes fine, but for anything that moves, I seem to mess up every time. It's just a small disadvantage when drawing manga...
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Zach on December 26, 2006, 06:28:05 am
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/onlyyou.jpg)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/penismyfriend.png)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/img066.png)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/img065.png)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/img058.png)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/img057.png)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/img056.png)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/img053.png)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Silver on December 27, 2006, 10:22:11 am
Some Mrs.Paint sketches.

(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c220/Spixel3/Digital%20art/sketchdum2.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: sharprm on December 30, 2006, 10:11:10 am
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e199/sharprm/castle.gif)

A background for an adventure game, didn't finish. I still like it though.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: eck on December 30, 2006, 07:50:40 pm
i think we need a nudity tag for this, the sole reason for this being zachs post :P
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Zach on December 30, 2006, 11:27:55 pm
just some nudity, nothin wrong with that.

but yeah, I guess.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: Indigo on January 03, 2007, 04:42:07 am
Here is a sample from a song I'm writing.  Recorded with a crappy gaming mic and freeware Audicity.  I think it turned out pretty okay given the circumstances.

"All I Wanted to Say"
http://www.spriteart.com/indigo/dump/song1_sampled.mp3
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread
Post by: leel on January 03, 2007, 08:16:49 pm
is this the updated version?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Terley on January 04, 2007, 08:49:51 am
(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6646/01po7.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: gliding on January 04, 2007, 07:55:46 pm
This is just a concept for a race in a game I'm working on...
Very rough stuff

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y134/json10131/colourstart.png)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Indigo on January 04, 2007, 08:09:25 pm
Leel:  Yeah, thats the slightly updated version (with lil effects and such)

Terley:  HAHA!  My favorite is the guy in the center for sure!  It'd make a great logo for yourself.... maybe a splash screen for your website.  What is this for?

Gliding:  Wow, you sure seem to have a grasp over traditional art (although I despise anime).  Looks great.  It has a nice soft feel to it.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: gliding on January 04, 2007, 09:08:11 pm
Thanks indigo, I usually go for a more realistic feel but my game has more of a cartoony look so I went with anime.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Terley on January 04, 2007, 11:04:31 pm
hey thx it was apart of a project, they're supposed to be daft square postcards to slip into my cd packaging design, it's no particular band or anything just designed all the packaging this way and the cd has a collection of as many types of music as I could think of lol. The topic was basically to design something to package a cd of our choice and be as creative as possible. I rushed the lot of it but these came out ok  ::)

great song btw.

shading on that is lovely gliding.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: gliding on January 04, 2007, 11:07:28 pm
Thanks, as I said before it's just a concept for my game, I'm glad I got a pretty nice response from you guys. ^^
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: robotriot on January 06, 2007, 11:09:03 am
Some stuff from the last couple of months

(http://omr.planet-d.net/img/burkhard_und_bodo.jpg)
(http://omr.planet-d.net/img/kuh.jpg)
(http://omr.planet-d.net/img/maus.jpg)
(http://omr.planet-d.net/img/art2b.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: gliding on January 06, 2007, 04:26:31 pm
Ha, that cat mouse idea is so great!
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: flaber on January 08, 2007, 08:10:27 am
let the drummer kick

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/flaber/dannyf1.jpg)

psst: change the topic title
it shows up the same as the offtopic thread on main page
both, re: official pixelation...
change to like, official sketch thread, or official NPA (notpixel art) thread
or something
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: GOODNIGHTdestroyer on January 09, 2007, 03:19:44 am
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/jsgo410/btb.gif)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: The B.O.B. on January 09, 2007, 03:27:18 am
Does that say "By the Broken"? Looks good, anyhow. You got a real nack for vectoring, and logo design...at least on the stand point of rockerish/metal designs.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: leel on January 09, 2007, 04:26:43 am
I was in my world politics class and bored out of my mind, so I took my Newsweek and opened it to random page.
It's nothing special, I don't usually draw in pen, and I didn't have my sketchbook with me.. so blah blah,  I just think that picture is scary and funny at the same time. 
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/leelcmw/drawing/saddam.jpg) 

Yes.  Rargh.

excuse the crappy hand, I had to close the magazine when my teacher decided to finish the lecture standing right next to me :p
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zach on January 09, 2007, 07:22:58 am
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/OMFGMOLLY.png)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/mrkillfriend.png)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/yesmyfriend.png)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/daddio.png)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/raul-1.png)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: dragonrc on January 09, 2007, 07:30:28 pm
(http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/6509/kickmehkh7.png)

Something I ditched some time ago..
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on January 09, 2007, 08:33:03 pm
(http://www.locustleaves.com/membotstrip.png)

making comics again!
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: GOODNIGHTdestroyer on January 09, 2007, 08:48:18 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/jsgo410/lycacopy.gif)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on January 09, 2007, 10:12:45 pm
(http://www.locustleaves.com/membotstrip.png)

making comics again!
yay! is that digital or do you just have an amazing scanner?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: gliding on January 09, 2007, 10:54:59 pm
definately scanner XD

right?

lovely stuff
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Feron on January 09, 2007, 11:40:13 pm
i'd say drawn, scanned and touched up in photoshop or the likes.

Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on January 10, 2007, 12:24:52 am
Drawn, a few straight lines needed done in photoshop. Why is this an amazing scan? Actually I used a pretty grainy paper for these as I shouldn't have (and they say experience keeps you out of trouble) so these look quite worse than they usually should given my propensity for smooth inking.

(http://www.locustleaves.com/inkdetail.png)

broken lines! grrr! Only good thing about grainy paper is that it makes fast 0.1 pigment marker parallel feathering look like 0.5 or smaller. It breaks lines, but it creates a very pleasing shading texture. Shame that's about all it's good for in terms of inking. I should get myself some illustration paper.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: pkmays on January 10, 2007, 08:53:24 am
Bristol Board FTW.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: GOODNIGHTdestroyer on January 10, 2007, 06:45:15 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/jsgo410/asdasdsacopy.gif)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zach on January 11, 2007, 01:59:06 am
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/alfonsa.png)

complementary color expiramentation
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: GOODNIGHTdestroyer on January 11, 2007, 05:50:52 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/jsgo410/rftdcopy.gif)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zach on January 12, 2007, 01:02:00 am
lmao, that last one is fun dead or destroyer, whicher name you prefer.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: GOODNIGHTdestroyer on January 12, 2007, 01:08:51 am
How about Joshua. Yeah that last one just made me one of the designers for Defyrant Clothing. :D:D:D I'm gonna be makinggg monies.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zach on January 12, 2007, 01:13:24 am
NOICE, I'm muy jealouso, I hope to make some money in the somewhat future off my pitiful art x_x
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: GOODNIGHTdestroyer on January 12, 2007, 09:07:18 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/jsgo410/defycopy.gif)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rox on January 12, 2007, 10:50:16 pm
Woo, look at him posting in the OT thread.

Just a really really quick sketch of a friend's character gone mad or something. Just to try to kickstart my productivity and get used to my tablet. Thought I'd post it to let you all know I'm not just sitting around doing nothing over here, when I'm not at school. Enjoy the unrefined scribblyness.


(http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/4366/stampifiedrk5.jpg)



GOODNIGHTdestroyer, those rule. I don't think they look good, but they definitely look like something I'd expect to find on someone's shirt, or a poster or something. The color and texture is all like... 90's metal or something. I dig it.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: GOODNIGHTdestroyer on January 12, 2007, 11:37:27 pm
You don't think they look good? :(
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rox on January 12, 2007, 11:54:08 pm
Oh, sorry, I mixed my phrases up. They look good, but I don't.. wait.. actually, I don't know. Usually, I can say that something looks good, but I, personally, don't like to look at it. But these things are just.. I don't know. I think they're fun to look at because they're ugly? But not technically ugly, just... designed in a very interesting way.

I don't know, okay? I did say they rule!
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: leel on January 13, 2007, 01:29:53 am
you mean that it's well done but not your taste?  I kinda agree with that, I think they're all awesome, but I probably wouldn't wear it myself just because it's not my style. I'd probably wear the Barney though, it's kinda cute.. in a scary zombie kind of way =D
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Cow on January 13, 2007, 01:55:30 am
I love those, Destroyer. ;D Especially the By the Broken one and the latest one. The city-destroying Barney looks pretty great too. I would wear 'em.

And Helm, I really like the design of that robot. :)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryona on January 13, 2007, 02:37:24 am
Oooh! Cool stuff, people! I really like that drawing of that new race of yours, Gliding. And that comic page is very awesome, Helm.  :)

Here's a few more of my stuff...


(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/Ryona_Satana/SilentRetribution.jpg)


(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/Ryona_Satana/DarkZombies.jpg)


(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/Ryona_Satana/Monsterinshadow.jpg)


(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/Ryona_Satana/IsThereSomethingMore-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: gliding on January 13, 2007, 04:08:03 am
Thanks ryona, and I'd like to sy that the angry manga ryona is crazy cool. I love the hair BTW.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: GOODNIGHTdestroyer on January 13, 2007, 04:39:01 am
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/jsgo410/bamcopy.gif)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on January 13, 2007, 05:35:36 am
dude this stuff is pretty cool technically but youve got too much of a forumula goin. logo/monster, logo/monster. mix it up some.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: GOODNIGHTdestroyer on January 13, 2007, 07:46:48 am
These were all requests, and i don't think any of them are similar at all.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: The B.O.B. on January 13, 2007, 08:09:44 am
These were all requests, and i don't think any of them are similar at all.

Well, I think he's referring to the pattern of pieces coming through lately. As in, distorted writing, with some type of strange monster in the pic. I personally think these are great. But I gotta admit, I'm failing to see the connection between the monsters and the name...like, in all of them. I mean, if that's what the client specifically asked for, I guess it's cool, but you know, I don't really get it otherwise. Maybe you could try experimenting with certain styles, when you get the free time. I'm pretty sure creating pieces in the same style over and over tends to get tiresome after a while.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: GOODNIGHTdestroyer on January 13, 2007, 08:49:53 am
Edit: This wasn't a complete thought, i haven't had any sleep for 2 days. :(

But basically, for my art I want to have a style. I want people to be able to look at my designs and know without actually knowing that they are the designs of Lycanthropy Art.

I could do a bunch of other designs with normal fonts, and in a different style. But i don't want to. I enjoy doing them this way.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Akzidenz on January 14, 2007, 02:43:44 am
They all look nice, the style is strong, but I'll agree that they look too similar. They're all two- or three-color on black, one bright color and one lighter muted color, usually complimentary, same outlining style, similar shading styles, and I imagine they're all roughly the same size in the same position once they're screened.

There's nothing wrong with defining a style for yourself and working to strengthen that style, but if you're working professionally then be wary of two things. First and foremost, if you're restricting your work that heavily, then you leave yourself with far less space to manuever in and far less space to grow. Secondly, be extremely careful about all of your work fitting into that style, because down the road you'll realize that you've pigeonholed yourself into an extremely niche (and gradually depleting) market. You don't want to have to find a new job in two years, just to look down at your portfolio and realize that there's little depth or variance in any of your designs.

All of that said, they really are nice. I especially like your type (with the exception of the most recent one) and the way that its forms complement your image.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on January 14, 2007, 07:26:30 pm
This one's for Helm, since he wanted to see more of my compositions.

I recently finished this piece, it's relaxing.


"The Rest Of The First Day Of Your Life" (http://media.putfile.com/The-Rest-Of-The-First-Day-Of-Your-Life)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: GOODNIGHTdestroyer on January 14, 2007, 08:39:03 pm
Guys these are shirt designs. The more colors used the more expensive it is to print. They tell me what color shirt they want and how many colors to use.

If someone says they want the design made to wrap around the side of the shirt then i'll do that. I'm just doing what people ask for.


Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zach on January 14, 2007, 08:42:43 pm
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/img076.jpg)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/img074.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Mirre on January 14, 2007, 10:32:03 pm
Here's some more nudity for this topic :D

(http://bluedelirium.com/character/shayna2.jpg)
My original character, Shayna. I did this piece for a weekly random original character thingie over at Private Exchange (an art exchange community). I also know perfectly well that she doesn't have average ...proportions.

(http://bluedelirium.com/character/snowballfight.jpg)
This is what I did for an art exchange between me and Emlan (http://www.artoholic.org). My characters ("huge guy", Yuki, and Tisha) and her characters (Mjing, Kaj and Nin) are having a snowball fight. Backrow from left: Mjing, (my unnamed character), Yuki. Front row from left: Kaj, Tisha, Nin.

Thinking about naming that big guy something of these three (tell me which one you think would fit the best if you feel like it):
Conall: strong wolf in Gaelic
Alexander: defending men in Greek
Art: bear in British/stone in Irish
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryona on January 14, 2007, 11:39:04 pm
Very lovely picture of Shayna, Mirre. You have a very nice drawing and shading technique with pencils that make your characters look warm and soft. I very much like that feel.
Shayna's features are very nice, and the sword has me rather interested. Is she a warrior/defender/guardian of some sort?
Oh, and I gotta say I'm very impressed by the look of the towel. I can literally feel the fuzzy fabric!

As for the next pic, it's awesome. The characters are so cute and endearing.
I think for the big guy, I'd go with either Conall or Art, though I'm leaning more towards Art.

Oh, and nice pics, Zach. Reminds me of all the little eccentric sketches my teacher did in Life-Drawing class.

Oh, and lovely music, Faktablad. Very nice serene sound. I very much enjoyed it.



Now onward to some more art...
Since people are posting nude art, that makes me feel fine about posting this than...


(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/Ryona_Satana/Truthv1.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Mirre on January 15, 2007, 12:11:00 am
Ryona: glad you like my stuff! :-*
Well, Shayna is a martial arts expert. And she kind of adores swords, haha. A very old character of mine, and I'm thinking about rewriting her biography to make her fit into the story of my other character Lotiki, and the comic-project I'm working on.

Yeah, I really like Art too... but Conall as well. Leaning more towards Art for me too now, I guess.

And that's a lovely piece of art Ryona. I like your dark drawing style. It's very neat and moody. Nice work on the girls figure, I think the light-reflect-effect on the breasts is pretty cool.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryona on January 15, 2007, 12:39:34 am
Why, thank you, Mirre! ^_^

Your character is a martial artist as well as uses and likes swords? I love her already! hehe
You're working on a comic project? Me too! Infact most of the pics I've posted are stuff for my comic project (mostly which are of my main character which is loosely based off of me).

I'd totally like to know more about your comic project. What is it about and in what way is your character involved in the story?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Sherman Gill on January 15, 2007, 03:38:16 am
Ryona: I love you. You have wicked awesome style.


Here's an ent-portrait:
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b139/InaneAndMatu/EntPortrait-1.png)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryona on January 15, 2007, 04:09:17 am
Thankies, Sherman Gill. ^_^

That pic of yours is cute in an odd way. hehe
I love the texture and colors. Lovely painting.

Ents are from Lord of the Rings, right?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Sherman Gill on January 15, 2007, 04:35:41 am
Well, they may be originally from Lord of the Rings. I just know them as tree people, though.

Never read LOTR..
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on January 15, 2007, 06:56:01 am
alexander: he who repels man

edit: hmm strange, dictionary.com said 'defender of men' too, but alex- is for deflecting in greek. I guess deflecting harm from befalling men, but that's a pretty long stretch really. I wonder if the meaning has been romaticisized over time, 'cause the first thing that comes to mind to a native greek is repulsion.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: leel on January 15, 2007, 03:30:51 pm
I was gonna legally change my name to Alexandra, even though it's kind of a stretch from my current name, but I know that my name came from Alexander originally in Ukrainian but it's changed a bit so now it stands by itself - not short for anything...anywho when I looked up the meaning of my name real in Ukrainian it said 'defender of man' :P 

But now I'm pretty glad I changed my mind about the whole Alexandra thing.  Every person I met in the last month was named Alex. I think it's a sign.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Mirre on January 15, 2007, 06:49:51 pm
Ryona: My comic project is about a girl named Lotiki that is secretely investigating weird "accidents" and disappearances that has happened around the world. Shayna isn't involved in that story... yet :)

So, what is your comic about?

Helm: oh, that's strange. But I guess I won't be using that name after all anyways.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: junkboy on January 15, 2007, 07:05:14 pm
Crashing the nude party with some zombie man ass

(http://i13.tinypic.com/4gfosaw.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryona on January 15, 2007, 07:10:14 pm
Ryona: My comic project is about a girl named Lotiki that is secretely investigating weird "accidents" and disappearances that has happened around the world. Shayna isn't involved in that story... yet :)

So, what is your comic about?

My comic series will be about a young woman who has gone through difficult times in her life, and while the bad stuff of her past is finally over, her life feels pretty uneventful, stuck, and in somewhat of a time loop. One night after waking up from one of her reaccuring odd dreams, she meets a dark mysterious man who invites her to experience the real world; ...a rather dark world of supernaturalism that brings forth many occult legends and myths.

Anyway, your comic idea sounds neat, Mirre. I'd totally like to check it out.  :)


As for the new art that has suddenly appeared, very awesome, Junkboy! I totally dig it.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Gunne on January 15, 2007, 07:13:41 pm
Owyea Junkboy, ZOmbies for the win! :D

Ryona & Mirre good luck with your comics :y:
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Stag on January 15, 2007, 07:26:24 pm
This really is neither as good nor as talneted as the other work on here but i'm posting it anyway, to see what people think.
(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.0070bf98c3.jpg)
my tribute to bob dylan (and the byrds)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: The B.O.B. on January 15, 2007, 07:31:56 pm
Please....stop....image hosting/shacking....please. The web site has a built in zoom function if you just choose photobucket or another site hosting...never mind, I give up...

A few weeks in the gauntlet of critiques here at pixelation, and you'll be one of the greats kid...
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Evil-Ville on January 15, 2007, 07:54:52 pm
Why would you want to zoom in to a thumbnail picture, BOB?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryona on January 15, 2007, 07:56:44 pm
Actually, Imageshack is fine for image hosting. You just need to get rid of the [URL] tags before you post it.

Anyway, cute picture, Stag. Next time show us a bigger picture.  :)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on January 15, 2007, 08:48:33 pm
Juncboy, you are a very capable inker. Congratulations. Please post stuff a bit bigger so we may inspect the linework more.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Willows on January 15, 2007, 09:06:20 pm
I've always wanted to operate a pullstart with my teeth. That is the coolest sh** I've ever seen. Ten points to Junkboy!
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zach on January 15, 2007, 10:20:19 pm
Juncboy, you are a very capable inker. Congratulations. Please post stuff a bit bigger so we may inspect the linework more.

ditto.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on January 16, 2007, 12:44:25 am
Yes, just noticed, sorry for mispelling your nickname.

Also, it might be a good idea to invest more time into getting to draw hands.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: junkboy on January 16, 2007, 09:12:47 am
Thanks guys

Larger and clearer version here (http://i10.tinypic.com/35bro5z.jpg)

Helm: Heh, yeah. I've been meaning to start doing hand studies daily, but.. it's been two years since I told myself that, so we'll see if I get around to it eventually.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: junkboy on January 16, 2007, 07:33:39 pm
Aaaand another piece (sorry for the humongous file-size)

(http://i3.tinypic.com/40eobvn.png)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on January 16, 2007, 11:07:43 pm
Here's some more nudity for this topic :D

(http://bluedelirium.com/character/shayna2.jpg)
My original character, Shayna. I did this piece for a weekly random original character thingie over at Private Exchange (an art exchange community). I also know perfectly well that she doesn't have average ...proportions.

The breasts are more superfirm than super-big, and for a warrior-type person that gets constant physical training, that's not really that unrealistic. Your problems with this aren't with the breasts at all. They are with anatomy errors. The upper body is way too big for the lower half. The upper arms are too short (the navel-----middle of arm thing is good to remember), the right wrist nonexistent. I did a small edit adressing these things, you can be the judge if that sort of attention to anatomy helps your art or not.

(http://www.locustleaves.com/shayna3.jpg)

Work on hands a lot because they are extremely useful in comics, next to faces to show emotion in body language.


EDIT: also, junkboy, do you plan to do ink on paper instead of digital inking? If so, I'd be glad to see how your natural line is. Additionally, what sort of noise brush do you use in photoshop? Custom one, one you found online? It's one of the useful little things I haven't bothered to make in ps yet.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Mirre on January 16, 2007, 11:59:54 pm
Thanks Helm, that's some really useful help! Especially with the hands and arms. I try to practsie as often as I can, but I didn't have any other person nearby for reference this time, except for myself in a mirror, so that might be where the errors come from. You addressed one of the main problems I had (the underside of the hand to the right). Though, I didn't mean that her breasts were a problem, I merely wrote it so that people wouldn't complain about her breast size or something. It is a part of her character traits. Nothing she likes herself, and she gets very pissed off if people give her "comments" about them. Same thing about her waist and hips (which aren't very wide). She's supposed to look a bit anorexic (sp?) in that area, but maybe I went too far.

Oh, and Junkboy; amazing art! That Evil Dead one has some ace crosshatching techniques. It looks very professional.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on January 17, 2007, 01:13:45 am
Please keep in mind that I am not amazing at anatomy, much less female anatomy, so always use pro reference, life reference or even 3d-poser-type reference (if just for the sizes/lengths, avoid the 3d model stiffness). I still see things that could be better with this but nitpicks will not benefit you much at this time I think.

Faktablad, I just listened to the song: I am uncertain about what the mood should be, those minor seconds repeated all the time make me feel unease but the rest of the orchestration is quite soothing. I think you should dampen the high end of the hapsicordish rhythm voice, and wash the organ sound, or even the whole mix in just a bit more natural reverb. The chord progression feels a bit wandering and uncertain too. However, all these things said, I must say I enjoy the mood. It's a bit dark ambient, a bit minimalist composition (though without the architectural complexity of Steve Reich or anything)... not too sure about when the piano and fuller string sound comes in though. A bit too 'movie soundtrack'.

If there would be one big pointer, it is that it seems to me that your leading voice wanders. This in compositional terms means that the voice plays notes, and these notes do not lead the interest of the listener towards places from relative instability ( seconds, fourths, sevenths) to stability (octaves, fifths, thirds) often enough to give the impression of an intentful melodic journey. There's a lot of interval clusters here and there, almost as if your mind goes 'okay this chord and theeeenhhhmhmmmmm okay THIS chord!' but that's not how you should write a leading voice. It should be a predefined journey, the composers overview should be holistic, not stuck on what will happen the next second.

There's also quite a bit more harmonic clashing than I think you intend, but that may just be me being a bit more sensitive to such than most people really would care to consider important.

Please keep posting music.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Indigo on January 17, 2007, 06:20:33 pm
low-poly modeling today using wings.  I've immediately fell in love with that program

30 min, 1823 polys.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/calypson/wings_ship_wire.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/calypson/wings_ship_front.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/calypson/wings_ship_back.png)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on January 18, 2007, 04:59:53 am
Thanks for the crits, Helm.  I'm not great at writing melodies, so my GarageBand pieces up to this point have consisted mostly of ambient/background style pieces, trying to get the groove down, orchestration down, etc.  So you've hit the nail on the head in terms of my major area that needs improvement.  Most of the harmonic clashing is intended, though I may have gone a bit overboard.  Nearly all of it can be attributed to the use of the 4th and 3rd in the same chord (which creates this wonderful resolved-yet-unresolved feeling), the major seventh and the octave, and the root and 2nd (or 9th).  I'm a sucker for goofy chords like major 9ths and major 9th sharp 11ths.  Thanks again, you're much more helpful than those guys over at Young Composers.

And just for you, here's a piece for piano that I wrote last year (I also wrote a tenor saxophone part which I'm not sure I have anymore  :huh:)
http://media.putfile.com/Imber
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on January 18, 2007, 05:31:50 am
No worries. Newer piece, lots of stuff happening, but not cohesive. But it's an old piece, there's no point to critique it heavily.

Last piece of piano music I did was this (http://www.locustleaves.com/music/evolv.mp3) and I never had time to do more in this style.

(well I guess there's a piano section in this too http://www.locustleaves.com/music/combinatorial_gyroscope.ogg)

EDIT: I worked a bit with real media

(http://www.locustleaves.com/waitingstill.png)

I need to work more
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: junkboy on January 18, 2007, 11:09:50 am
That's a great piece, Helm. Reminds me a lot of european comic albums, with that ink/gouache (?) mix.

About your question earlier, yes, I definitely plan on working more with natural media. But seeing as how I'm still struggling to figure out this whole inking business (I'm still much to lineart dependent, for example), I'll just practise with CG for now. The brush is a tool in Painter9 called Pepper Spray (wich I think nicely replicates toothbrush splatter).
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: sharprm on January 18, 2007, 12:36:15 pm
All this talk of comics books has gotten me thinking I should do one.

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e199/sharprm/joker2.gif)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on January 18, 2007, 08:42:28 pm
That's a great piece, Helm. Reminds me a lot of european comic albums, with that ink/gouache (?) mix.

Well I am from europe... And a comic artist. I don't have much tolerance for (though no outright hate or prejudice against) muscle comics so yes I guess my stuff leans more towards left-field. I don't usually color my artwork though, so this is me coloring with ecolines more. It would be good if I went out and bought more than just a red bottle and a yellow bottle of the stuff though. I need resupplying generally.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on January 18, 2007, 09:09:08 pm
helm you have no idea how much id like to see your art presented in some form over here in the u.s. beautiful stuff.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on January 18, 2007, 11:27:20 pm
helm you have no idea how much id like to see your art presented in some form over here in the u.s. beautiful stuff.

Dude... I'm not very good. GRARGH I know how this sounds on the internet, like 'please tell me it ain't so, please tell me how good I am!' but seriously, I'm just a begginer and an amateur in most things. If you want to read good comics by european artists that are presented in the U.S. along with everybody else why don't you check out the following people:

Alberto Breccia, José Muñoz, Andrea Pazienza, Moebius.

All extremely notable artists in the field, and some of my biggest sources of inspiration. Studying these people will be infinitely more rewarding than looking at work by someone who is relatively your peer, and very early in his creative growth in comparison. Learn from the best, not by some guy on the internet.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on January 19, 2007, 02:05:33 am
i never said you were very good at all, just that i enjoy your art :] never the less, i will be taking a look at those names.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: shaheen on January 19, 2007, 02:58:11 am
Helm and Fak: What would you guys say is the best way to get into learning music? At one point I started to create sounds and experimental things inspired by the typical list of genres (musique concrete, industrial, and whatnot) but nothing that was really conventional music. At least, anything that I attempted to create as such music never really turned out great.

How did you guys get into creating music?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on January 19, 2007, 05:53:34 am
Faktablad will give you his version and it'll probably be more interesting. I come from a Heavy Metal background, therefore I start with good melodic riffs that excite me for whatever reason. That means, given my knowledge in the field and extensive background in Metal, I only use a riff when it makes me feel about 13 years old again. Usually something that comes to me and I hum it, then figure it out on guitar and then play it all sorts of different ways to see how it can become more interesting (to me) rhythmically, melodically and harmonally. I am a firm believer that if you're using a melodic phrase just one way you're not using it as well as you could. I try to make every riff variate in such a way that it's a small song inside the song. I don't repeat a lot of phrases as a rule. Then on the mesostructural level, I look at the collection of riffs the song seems to lean towards, and try to modify the whole lot of them to have come holistic consistency, and to perhaps capture a specific sequence of emotional events linearly. That is to say, I just don't connect good riffs end-on-end and call it done, they have to be a composed song. But I HAVE to know that the actual riffs are good, as a heavy metal person, if you don't have killer riffs you don't have anything. I obviously avoid powerchord series like a stupif punk or metalcore band unless I'm doing some sort of connecting bridge or leaving space out for some solo or lead voice to take over.

The most conventional music I've gotten is playing Heavy Metal so this doesn't really answer your question I fear. If you want to make some sort of really acceptable pop music I think it's way more about streamlined presentation and catchyness (something which can't exactly be taught) than it is about the music being involved in itself.

Musique Concrete and Industrial are strange fields because one has to approach what the meaning of music is in a very awkward manner. The worthless gets inherent worth for being worthless, silence becomes sexy and the emergent meaning is a very ambiguous one. It would be best if you made such music only if you have a very strong aesthetic sense over what very little can mean given a very large space to operate, and such. If you haven't become that sort of person that enjoys strange things, I don't think you should try to go that way yet. If you just ment you made such music by accident due to inability to write proper music, then that's neither musique concrete or industrial music.

I suggest you start on a piano with a scale that sounds good to you.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: shaheen on January 19, 2007, 07:31:43 am
Oh no, I completely understand and enjoy more abstract forms of music. In fact, it's the only thing I really have experience in music-wise.

I was mainly curious about how you got into conventional music, by that I mean music that has an apparent organized pattern and that of which typically follows, or is at least inspired by music theory. I mainly asked because I've been working on a game project, and I'd hate to have to rely on others to create content so I'm trying to become a "jack of all trades," as they call 'em.

Anyways, back to music. What I meant was that I mostly only did things that didn't follow music theory, because.. well, I just don't think music theory is required to make music (in the sense that training in "art" isn't necessary to create art (if that makes sense?)). That and I just didn't know anything about music theory except for your basic music reading and whatnot. My problem is that when I tried to make "real" music, I never succeeded in making anything really good because I lacked that sort of training.

I guess it seems like you learned through an instrument, or rather, a style that you enjoyed playing. I'll try piano (I keep putting it off... :/) and see how far I can take it this time.

If you're curious, here are some things I made when I was creating audio:
I Control This Machine! (http://pixelporn.talkingarm.com/khris/music/control.mp3) somewhat annoying noise. Pretty worthless with the 128 encoding. Took away a lot of the intensity it once had. Not recommended for anyone with a dislike for high-pitched sounds.

Horror in Madness (http://pixelporn.talkingarm.com/khris/music/horror.mp3) Progressive Noise? Not sure how to describe this. I took two long clips that I created live and layered them. I was trying to create a sense of uneasiness and paranoia with the repeated rhythms/rumbles alongside high-pitched chirps leading up to complete, and what I thought at the time, frightening-sounding chaos and then to a sudden eerie, yet tranquil stop. Probably overdoing it with that description there, though...

Mourning For You (http://pixelporn.talkingarm.com/khris/music/mourning.mp3) Ambient Noise, I think. Out of these three, probably my favorite. Another piece that followed that same method I used for Horror in Madness. Took two live tracks and mixed them together. Eerie feedback whistles with a low rumbling noise lead to an oddly relaxing experience (I thought).

I had some more and better things, but unfortunately I can't find anything else of mine on the net and all the stuff on my harddrives have been deleted due to a crash.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on January 19, 2007, 08:06:15 am
I am sorry, I have a very strong distaste for Whitehouse-isms. If there's an industrial or power violence cliche, it's the low bass rumble plus high peached noise. Never saw what's so fun about a headache. I have no other critique for the first track.

Horror In Madness is better in terms that it doesn't rape my eardrums. Reminds me of 'Easy Listening for Iron Youth' era NON. Is that a good thing? Depends on what this music means. Doesn't outstay its welcome, also. It does make me feel a bit unsettled towards the end, so I guess that's a victory for you. But to be made to feel bad with abrasive music isn't the most difficult thing.

Last track, not enough going on texture-wise for me. Not any sort of resonance encaptured.

This sort of music is not easy to critique as there's no foundational requests to be made of it (besides 'please don't rape my ears') so there'll be a lot of people that will consider it great, and equally enough to consider it crap. Mostly in either case having an opinion just to have an opinion.

I love ambient music and make it (Heavy Metal and ambient, go figure, huh?) but the sort of stuff I go for is not set out to unsettle or dislocate ear drums as much.

http://www.locustleaves.com/music/Piece%20for%20Treated%20Guitar%20and%20Voice.ogg

http://www.locustleaves.com/music/Song%20for%20the%20Sea,%20wip3.mp3

Last piece a pretty good encapturing of ambient that is metal that is ambient that is metal, if I do say so myself. As you can see, more musical stuff, coming from a different angle.

Music theory is not required, nothing is required. Depends on what sort of thing you end up making. Requirements arise from hightened desire to do something better. If you're completely happy with high-piercing noises and low end rumbling, you don't need no musical theory to do that at all.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: shaheen on January 19, 2007, 09:01:56 am
Yeah. To be honest the first track was mostly a joke and didn't have any sort of thought put into it compared to the others. Sort of a mockery of everything power electronics. 'Course, minus the crazy guy screaming his head off. Ironically enough, I've never actually bothered with Whitehouse, but I am definitely familiar with the style. It's alright sometimes.

Thanks for listening and giving some comments. I'm hoping to get back into creating again. I did a whole bunch of different stuff when I was working with sound, and this all happens to be my live material. Maybe I'll go back to Mourning For You and make something out of it, as I've always thought it was good as a potential ambient piece's backbone. When I stopped, I was working on some soundscapes with minor instances of noise thrown in, along with more organized SPK-type stuff.

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I love ambient music and make it (Heavy Metal and ambient, go figure, huh?) but the sort of stuff I go for is not set out to unsettle or dislocate ear drums as much.
Definitely not uncommon. For some reason Metal somehow had a baby with (Dark) Ambient and out came Drone/Drone Doom/etc. Interesting style of music but a bit too bleak sounding for me sometimes. I'm really not sure when or why Metal kind of mixed with Ambient to create that though. Wouldn't doubt you do, though.

Piece for Treated Guitar and Voice - pretty cool, though I'm not digging the overuse of reversed samples. This really reminds me of  a few tracks by a band called Explosions in the Sky (wonderful stuff, in my opinion).

Song For the Sea - Ha. I was just waiting for the part where the guitar and percussion really kick in on this one. Again, reminds me of Explosions in the Sky, though obviously more influenced by Metal. The introduction I think could use softening on the really rigid parts that fade in and out (forgot the word for that effect...). Other than that, I enjoyed it.

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If you're completely happy with high-piercing noises and low end rumbling, you don't need no musical theory to do that at all.
Well, I am happy with that sort of stuff, however that sort of thing obviously wouldn't work out in a game with a fighting ninja robot hero. I was actually planning on doing some sort of recreation of Kraftwerk songs in the style of early 90s beat 'em up music, but I guess I'll see how that ends up going.

Oh yeah, I might as well ask this as well: what software (if any) do you use for arrangement? Sound modification?



Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on January 19, 2007, 10:02:51 am
Oh no! The post-rock comparison! Heh, I don't have anything to do with that scene really, though I enjoy some of the prototypical bands. I find Explosiions in the Sky very boring.

About piece for one treated guitar, the reverseisms are important because as the song name indicates... it's all just one guitar and vocals. No overdubs or time to do anything else. So the washes require a lot of returns to have the time to do all that needs to be done with just one set of hands.

The 'drone' thing. I don't understand why metalheads who discover ambient music need a new name for it. Sunn0)))) and the like are just dark ambient bands played by people in robes. I see no reason for this new genre name to exist. I liked ambient when I started listening to Eno, Fripp, Hecker, Loscil, so on, I didn't need anyone with a black metal background to tell me it's cool and okay to like it now.

I use Sonar 5 as a host, Guitar Rig 2 for guitar processing exclusively (I go off to play live with voidhead (http://www.myspace.com/voidheadz) just today, no actual amps, all through Sonar/GR2), Absynth and Oatmeal VST for soundscapeage, BFD drumkit. Garritan Personal Orchestra for whatever else I might need in the mix. That is all.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Squeez on January 19, 2007, 04:21:30 pm
(http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/7627/sheckryan1um1.jpg)
bad quality foto, ryan sheckler pro skater
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on January 20, 2007, 05:01:50 am
Here's my response.

I think to understand the reasoning behind any sort of art theory you need to examine the definition of art (my definition, anyway) which is any form of communicating ideas or emotions that appeals to the senses or to the soul.  I'd compare not knowing theory to not knowing a language, and being fluent in theory to being fluent in language.  When you were too young to talk, you were pretty successful at communicating basic emotions and needs without knowing any sort of language.  You just screamed, or cried, or laughed, or made a funny face, and you communicated.  But when you learned a language, the precision and detail with which you could communicate what you wanted increased greatly.  Now turn to music.  You can make music without music theory, you can communicate quite effectively without music theory.  If you're extremely talented, you can communicate pretty much anything without music theory.  However, what music theory does is makes it easier to communicate. 

You probably hear a lot of music in your head.  Without music theory, you would either be able to play it with some varying degree of accuracy (depending on how talented you are), or it would be lost forever when you forgot it.  But if you know theory, you could take the music in your head and write it down, and quickly insure that it's preserved.  I have a binder full of ideas that I discovered and wrote down.

Theory helps you recognize areas of dissonance where you might have missed it otherwise, it helps bring order to compositions, helps keep things organized, and most importantly, it helps you give your ideas to other musicians so they can play them as well.  Writing a symphony would be a near-impossible task if you didn't know theory.  Not only could you not keep the parts organized on a page, but you would have to make sure that each musician plays the right thing at the exact right time every time, and you would have to make sure all the parts sound how you want them to sound, every time.

I got into composition before I got into music.  Before I knew any theory, I would plunk out little melodies on the piano.  I had a bit of a talent for this, which is why I got involved in piano and composition in the first place.  But the pieces that I wrote at that time weren't that great, to tell the truth.  There's so much you can learn about theory and composition, not just from studying theory and composition, but from studying on an instrument.  If you study an instrument your music becomes more human, it can connect more, and you learn what instrumentalists are capable of (and are not capable of).  Also you learn a great deal about how other composers accomplished what you are trying to.

That's about all I have to say for now.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: shaheen on January 20, 2007, 06:16:21 am
Thanks a lot for that response. Helps me understand the importance of music theory a bit better the way you put it.

I've got a drum set and a keyboard just waiting to get some attention, now. ;)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Stwelin on January 20, 2007, 03:11:34 pm
I love ambient music and make it (Heavy Metal and ambient, go figure, huh?) but the sort of stuff I go for is not set out to unsettle or dislocate ear drums as much.

http://www.locustleaves.com/music/Piece%20for%20Treated%20Guitar%20and%20Voice.ogg
http://www.locustleaves.com/music/Song%20for%20the%20Sea,%20wip3.mp3

I was actually browsing through your 'index-of' music the other day. I listened through the entire directory almost 3 or 4 times, and it's damn good. you're a very multi-talented person. :)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rerg1 on January 20, 2007, 06:49:25 pm
We all love Helm.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rox on January 20, 2007, 08:27:39 pm
I'M LEARNING TO DRAW DER BUNNIES!1 (http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/797/bunlet8qt.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: leel on January 21, 2007, 12:59:28 am
omg kawaii times a millions!

all it needs now is the playboy logo, cause it's THAT HOT!
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: sharprm on January 21, 2007, 07:43:46 am
What about if a guy walked out from behind the sign at the end even though it should be too thin for
him to hide behind.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Indigo on January 21, 2007, 11:02:49 am
I played with some virtual Legos today! :)  And no, didn't use instructions. The design is mine.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/calypson/photos/rovercg1.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/calypson/photos/rovercg2.png)

and the real version:
(I apologize for the crappy web-cam pics)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/calypson/photos/Picture18.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/calypson/photos/Picture17.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/calypson/photos/Picture16.jpg

When you invert the wheels to the insides of the 'legs' it looks heck-a-lot cooler, yet can't turn worth a darn.  The shock system works quite well though.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: MoD on January 21, 2007, 06:24:10 pm
That's great! I have only one suggestion and question: Instead of using pulleys for the drive train, put in some gears. LEGO pulleys don't transfer force very well and from what I see in the pics they aren't needed for transmission of force over a variable distance. If there's not space on the inner part of the "legs" you could always have the gears on the outside, though that might add a need for some more red beams on the other side. The matter of transferring force might not be an issue now, but if you ever invest in a LEGO motor or two to power it they'd benefit from the change.

And the question: Why do you have the wheels all oriented exactly the same on the virtual version (I think it's different on the real one, the pics make it hard to tell)? I'd think you would have them reflected over the left-right axis, but all of the 6-circled sides are facing the viewer in both pictures. Is that a limitation of the building app?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Indigo on January 21, 2007, 09:10:09 pm
Great feedback MoD!  About the pulleys; I tried a total of 3 solutions to that problem.  I tried it with gears, chains, and the pulleys as you can see.  The chains caused too much friction and was bogging the gear rotation.  The gear solution also had friction, but not as much.  In the end I just went with what looked the best....though the chains looked pretty neat as well.  I'll play around with that a bit more.  As far as motors go, I'm buying them very soon along with a set of pneumatics that will be used on a scoop-type-device for this rover.  I plan to hook up the motors to the 2 protruding drive shafts you see there in the picture.  those drive shafts are then connected to a 'worm' gear.  That worm gear is then connected to a crown tooth gear which then spins the shaft which, in turn, spins all of the external gears you see in those pics.  I designed the rover with an opening 'hood' so you can fix the rover both in and out without disassembling anything.

here is a pic with the hood open:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/calypson/photos/rovercg3.png)

You see, back when I was a wee lil lad (back in the 6th grade), I was part of a geeky team called the "Mars Rover" team.  The goal was to design a rover in which could accomplish certain tasks such as climb a certain degree incline, or pick up a number of rocks, be under a certain weight, complete an obstacle course, and others.  It was a HUGE competition held up in Idaho; tons of kids everywhere.  Very fun, yet also nerve-racking. 

My team:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/calypson/photos/rover.jpg)
I'm the scrawny kid in the middle.  Wasn't I just adorable?

Recently I've been having a bit of nostalgia.  I went on a whim to the Lego Education website and bought myself a whole slew of Mindstorm Legos in bulk (ones that matched the pieces found in the competitions sets).  The only things not included were the motors and pneumatics which I am ordering soon.   Anyway, I wanted to design a rover that'd kick that competition's butt if it were to be entered.  To my knowledge, there has been no rover entered into the competition with a working shock system, thus that obviously was my goal.

And the wheels, that was simply an oversight.  Thanks for pointing that out.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Malor on January 21, 2007, 10:50:18 pm
Caricature of my friend/priase and worship leader...first ever caricature, pretty happy with it..not to cartoonish though..but multiple proportion problems....anyways..

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/iceman509/GarysCharicature.png?t=1169419075)

for a first, I am quite pleased.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Indigo on January 21, 2007, 11:26:17 pm
looks pretty good mate, but it's spelled "caricature."  Forget the 'h.'
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Evil-Ville on January 22, 2007, 12:04:05 am
Your friend is from now on called Gordon Freeman.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Malor on January 22, 2007, 12:41:07 am
looks pretty good mate, but it's spelled "caricature."  Forget the 'h.'

yeah, noticed right after I scanned >.<
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Malor on January 22, 2007, 12:42:28 am
Your friend is from now on called Gordon Freeman.

oo a black gordon freeman..BEAST!
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zolthorg on January 22, 2007, 01:18:15 am
Having done the robotics minicourse at queens u twice in a row, and owned my own lego mindstorms 2.0. I can tell you this Indigo.
Ditch the rubber bands, they do not work.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: MoD on January 22, 2007, 03:43:29 am
@Indigo: I've also done a competition a lot like that. It was called "First Lego League" and we used the mindstorms 1.0 and a freaked-out graphical programming language to do several tasks on a playing field with lego objects, but without any human intervention; we had to program everything procedurally with hard numbers. We didn't fare very well against the competition because of our dysfunctional team and because we didn't have any rotation sensors and nobody was inventive enough to improvise substitutes.

Your model instantly reminded me of a mars rover, probably because of the legs and flat top somewhat reminsescent of a solar panel. About the chains, pulleys, and gears, I'm still suggesting you go with gears, but that you mentioned chains made me wish I was born at a different time. By the time I got into the Technic sets they didn't use the chains much at all. :'(

I like the idea of a openable hood for easy rebuilding, but looking in there I wonder what kind of speed you'll be getting. Instead of using a worm to 24-tooth crown I'd use a worm to a 16? tooth bevel gear or stick a different type of gear out further with some sort of brace. But I'm not familiar with the kind of mothors they had back then so they might have different speed/torque than the ones I'm used to.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on January 22, 2007, 07:48:18 am
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/calypson/photos/rovercg2.png)

Looks pretty nifty, but wouldn't the gears lock up easily, or is there some logic behind it that is not instantly obvious?

La aŭto estas bizara.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on January 23, 2007, 01:03:24 pm
I was actually browsing through your 'index-of' music the other day. I listened through the entire directory almost 3 or 4 times, and it's damn good. you're a very multi-talented person. :)

That you found you way to the music and listened to it on your own flatters you as much as your opinion on the music flatters the people responsible for it. Thank you.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ensellitis on January 24, 2007, 11:17:15 am
flaber gave me permission to vector his sexy android...   this is what i have so far...  still VERY VERY wip

(http://imagehost.blogpulp.com/images/352394236.jpg)

and this is part of the game art for myriad, a game i joined in with demon

(http://imagehost.blogpulp.com/images/295118077.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Opacus on January 24, 2007, 12:41:06 pm


Looks pretty nifty, but wouldn't the gears lock up easily, or is there some logic behind it that is not instantly obvious?

La aŭto estas bizara.
Nope, they should work like this:
(http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/2441/nojam2uo.gif)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on January 24, 2007, 01:50:28 pm
Dear Opacus,

Please explain how the central gear will rotate both ways at the same time during conventinal motion.

Thank you in advance and all the best,

Reality
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: .TakaM on January 24, 2007, 01:56:12 pm
when I saw indigo's lego thing, took a minute to work out the cogs, but isn't the only way the gears would lock up if the front axle was going clockwise, and the back axle was going anti-clockwise?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on January 24, 2007, 02:11:36 pm
Turns out it works. Reality retracts her statement. My brain hurts.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: .TakaM on January 24, 2007, 02:14:24 pm
ah good, you just about had me getting out the lego :P
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Opacus on January 24, 2007, 02:20:34 pm
Turns out it works. Reality retracts her statement. My brain hurts.
I have 2 huge bed drawers full with lego, I know how those things work :P
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: GOODNIGHTdestroyer on January 24, 2007, 04:48:18 pm
Helm has failed himself.

The villagers rejoice.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Opacus on January 24, 2007, 07:14:42 pm
Helm has failed himself.

The villagers rejoice.
He failed to me even! A 15 year old boy from Holland who is a moderate pixeler!
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Indigo on January 24, 2007, 07:27:56 pm
I was really curious why people thought the gear setup i had wouldn't work.... seems pretty simple to me.  Oh well, with all the villagers rejoicing, it doesn't matter much.  ;-)  I made a new rover.  I'll post that up a bit later

@ensellitis - that planet is pretty dang awesome, however I suggest you add an atmosphere.  It adds that last bit of realism that tops the cake.  Here are some planets I made a while ago for example...

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d38/Indigortfolio/CG/planets.png)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Opacus on January 24, 2007, 07:33:55 pm
Me neither, I'm so proud I out-smarted Helm  :crazy:
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on January 24, 2007, 07:52:12 pm
Turns out it works. Reality retracts her statement. My brain hurts.
Good thing too.  I was like "wait a minute, I've done plenty of Mensa gear puzzles!!"

Ensellitis, nice work, but I'm not liking the puky gray-colored skin.  Why don't you go wild with the colors a little bit?  That would be sexy.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: MoD on January 24, 2007, 10:38:43 pm
I hate to say it, ens, but your photoshop has failed you in the smallest way. Look at the 1px bit on the leftmost point of the sphere. That should be fixed with the adding of an atmosphere though.

I don't like the gradients you used on the leftmost meteor's trail. It's way too long and should become skinnier away from the falling object. The air distortion around it needs some work too, a bit mor orangish tint and larger fireball at the front. The impacting one looks very nice, though, hope to see something real nice come of that.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on January 25, 2007, 12:08:30 am
The impacting meteor should be way brighter and the light should affect the surrounding planet surface in some way.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Godslayer on January 27, 2007, 11:00:19 pm
Second forray into digipaint

(http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/5420/orangebi3.png)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Mirre on January 28, 2007, 12:22:24 am
I just realized I never posted my monkey-cup. My masterpiece from the pottery course I went to.
(http://bluedelirium.com/gallery/original/monkeycup.jpg)


...and a new CG I did the other day. My first completely digital painting (except for oekakis and paintchat-things). It's also my first thing made in Painter.
(http://bluedelirium.com/gallery/pe/lirit.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on January 28, 2007, 04:10:56 am
I SO WANT THAT CUP!
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: pkmays on January 28, 2007, 05:00:38 am
Contrast!



Painter's a great program for natural media, but no Painter piece is complete without a little Photoshop dickery.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: digitaldust on January 28, 2007, 08:56:45 am
Oekaki piece:

(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f124/ongyoki/OP_11.png)

It's not really much, but at least it's a mark that will mean future atrocities will come into this thread. >: )
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on January 28, 2007, 09:31:27 am
Oh man, do they really have to? What has the internet done to your artistic psyche?!
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: digitaldust on January 28, 2007, 10:18:46 am
Oh man, do they really have to? What has the internet done to your artistic psyche?!

Caaaaaaaaaalm, dear master. It's just a hobby of mine. ;)

Plus, the internet gave me moar powah to withstand the heat of words. At a humiliating price, though.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on January 28, 2007, 10:20:53 am
I'm seriously not trying to insult you at all. Please believe me! But! But!!
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: digitaldust on January 28, 2007, 10:38:03 am
I'm seriously not trying to insult you at all. Please believe me! But! But!!

Yes, yes, i believe you.

AND NOW, MOAR... um, it's not "atrocities" anymore, i think.

Big image. (http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f124/ongyoki/Acetone2.jpg)

That'll be it for the night -- gonna work on sum concepts and other things. Hopefully.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on January 29, 2007, 10:16:57 pm
my first try at a bit of concept art. definitely inspired by xions recent pixel piece, aswell as my cyclops fetish:
(http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/6962/drawingqj1.png)
for all you modelers out there, would you have any difficulties making a model of this, provided i wasnt too lazy to do a back view aswell?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rox on January 29, 2007, 10:38:34 pm
Yes... yes we would. It's totally complex looking and asymmetrical and stuff!

Also, for modelling, it's preferred to have the character standing in Ye Olde T-pose at a straight angle, since that's how it would be modelled to begin with.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on January 29, 2007, 11:40:02 pm
... the muscle imbalance is what makes him not just another cyclops( well, hes got 2 eyes but thats all i can seem to name him)
definitley forgot about the t-pose though, will do so if i feel like pumping out another concept.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Stwelin on January 30, 2007, 12:40:27 am
Looks like a job zbrush could handle. I wish my machine could still run at a workable speed with all the polys that would be involved in that thing. :\
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on January 30, 2007, 04:00:44 am
That, my friend, is AWESOME.
Doth thou havest a version with hightier resolvement?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on January 30, 2007, 07:57:57 pm
why yes, i do. thanks for the inspiration btw, xion.
(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/264/biclopsnd2.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rox on January 30, 2007, 08:07:15 pm
Looks like a job zbrush could handle. I wish my machine could still run at a workable speed with all the polys that would be involved in that thing. :\

Depends on what you wanna do with it, though. Zbrush is good for two things. Making super-hi-poly things for still images, or creating normal maps for models to be used in more interactive/animated form. And the later way requires a lower polygon model to be created beforehand...

Yeh, I'm skeptical about ZBrush. It's an insanely amazing ingenious work of art, but I don't know if people know how to work with it...
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Feron on January 30, 2007, 11:27:11 pm
on the subject off inking, here is a great article:

http://www.gomediazine.com/12/11/2006/comic_book_style/

the finished product looks awesome too.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on January 30, 2007, 11:38:11 pm
In my opinion that's an extremely outdated and bad way to ink. Screams 90's image comics, which isn't a good thing to go for in the largest amount of cases. I'd suggest you stay away from that sort of work especially if you're starting to learn how to ink.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Godslayer on January 30, 2007, 11:59:57 pm
What kind of inking should one steer towards?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on January 31, 2007, 12:34:01 am
why don't you check out this guy, he's done it all: http://lambiek.net/artists/b/breccia.htm

Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Feron on January 31, 2007, 01:41:03 am
hmmm. personnaly i really like the '90's" style.  My grandfather was a good inker & draftsman, so i might have inherited his skills, ill definitley look into it.

that breccia guy is pretty cool, but lots of his stuff doesnt realy appeal to me.  do you have any links to tutorials that are not so 'outdated'?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on January 31, 2007, 09:49:30 am
(http://www.buchmesse.de/comic-argentina/images/breccia2.jpg)
this is outdated?!

(http://bp0.blogger.com/_CHfcL6vQT9Y/RZxEU1lfxYI/AAAAAAAAAHY/4mjR9lSVtNA/s1600-h/Perramus-NN.jpg)
what?!

http://disraeli-demon.blogspot.com/2007/01/alberto-breccia-part-1-mort-cinder.html
http://disraeli-demon.blogspot.com/2007/01/alberto-breccia-part-2-el-eternauta-to.html

(http://bp1.blogger.com/_CHfcL6vQT9Y/RZvwFVlfxRI/AAAAAAAAAF8/9zzpIqY6BTs/s400/Cthulu-Ciudad-Cave.jpg)
(http://bp2.blogger.com/_CHfcL6vQT9Y/RZvUIllfxLI/AAAAAAAAAE4/OBsOqB93lZE/s400/Perramus-Roof.jpg)

Dude isn't called the Master of Black and White by accident!

also
(http://www.locustleaves.com/trapped.jpg)

I HAD TO SET IT FREE!


(http://www.locustleaves.com/owlsmall.png)

(no jokes on how my real-media work looks like my pixel art work now, you hear?!)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ensellitis on January 31, 2007, 01:05:53 pm
...
(no jokes on how my real-media work looks like my pixel art work now, you hear?!)


so, do you pixel like you draw or draw like you pixel?   :B
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Feron on January 31, 2007, 01:10:20 pm
i didn't say Breccia's work was outdated - i was referring to your comment on the "90's comic book style".  i meant: do u have any links to tutorials that are more modern/better than the one i posted.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on January 31, 2007, 02:54:23 pm
I don't think if you inked like Breccia anyone would have an issue with your inking looking outdated.


I paint like I pixel.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Evil-Ville on January 31, 2007, 10:15:10 pm
I re-discovered my love towards Wolf3D modding.

(http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/1021/wolfmod2aa7.png)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: pkmays on January 31, 2007, 10:27:49 pm
I've been working on a Wolf3D mod on and off for some time now. I decided to take the "hard core" route and rely on hex editing rather than source editing, but I've put off major EXE changes as I also want to make a DeHacked-like utility for Wolfenstein, but that's currently beyond my coding abilities.

I'm guessing you're going for an old black and white horror movie feel?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on January 31, 2007, 10:42:23 pm
haha, of all the things you could be editing... Wolfenstein?! At least Doom! You shoot at crotch-level in Wolfenstein. And you run super-fast.  That makes you the worlds' speediest american midget.

Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: big brother on January 31, 2007, 10:54:56 pm
Fast AND American! At least B.J. Blazkowicz has two things going for him! ;)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: pkmays on January 31, 2007, 10:58:49 pm
I want to take a crack at modding most or all of the id Software games sometime before I die. I've had an epic storyline cooking in my brain in which each (full) game would progress the story and expand the universe as the modding technology progresses. But lately I realized how unrealistic that idea is, so I've switched gears to something more manageable, like making one 9 level episode in Wolf3D, then moving on to DOOM to do another small single episode run, etc., etc.

Anyway, working with Wolf3D is challenging in a fun way. The default palette is terrible, the level design is extremely limited, and adding resources can be a hairy experience.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Evil-Ville on January 31, 2007, 11:03:03 pm
pkmays: Yeah, I figured I'd do something different as most wolfenstein mods are set in... World War 2. About the coding thing: I myself can't code at all so I just leech the best parts from all kinds of tutorials.

Helm: I actually thought about modding doom this time, but I realised that it would be way too much work for someone like me. I 'fixed' the running speed though.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Arghus on February 03, 2007, 04:10:29 pm
A trade caravan I did a while ago.
It looks better in real, ofcourse.. Heh. : )
(http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/1710/handelsbeestbo9.png)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zach on February 03, 2007, 08:08:26 pm
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/mynameiszach.jpg)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/img078-1.jpg)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/img079.jpg)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/img083.jpg)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/img084.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: miascugh on February 04, 2007, 03:08:45 am
(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n149/miascugh/sketches22.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zach on February 04, 2007, 10:13:02 pm
I need to get my shit together :\

thank you mia, *saves*
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Evil-Ville on February 04, 2007, 11:54:45 pm
(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5968/titlescreen3sn7.png)

Painted with the "acrylic" brushes in corel painter in 640x400. Then colour reduced/shrinked to 320x200 and refined in pro-motion a bit. Lighting is a bit messy and some parts are too blurry, but I am still happy with it.

Edit: I must add that I know it looks VERY similar to my other greyscale lo-res stuff but that's the way I wanted it to look.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: The B.O.B. on February 05, 2007, 02:05:10 am
   Me likes. I just wished there was a little more definition to the shadowed character.(it's a person, not a little tree, right?). I can't really tell what he's holding. I think it's a guitar. He could be a farmer. Maybe a wanderer, I don't know. I'm not saying add detail or make him lighter, just maybe make the form a bit more readable, as a silhouette.
   Man, I need try drawing with photoshop again. I feel so outclassed right now...
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: SplatPixel on February 05, 2007, 06:18:08 am
Young Assassins

(http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/7333/assassinsnb7.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Evil-Ville on February 05, 2007, 01:52:50 pm
   Me likes. I just wished there was a little more definition to the shadowed character.(it's a person, not a little tree, right?). I can't really tell what he's holding. I think it's a guitar. He could be a farmer. Maybe a wanderer, I don't know. I'm not saying add detail or make him lighter, just maybe make the form a bit more readable, as a silhouette.
   Man, I need try drawing with photoshop again. I feel so outclassed right now...

Better?

(http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/1111/title4vy5.png)

The 'stick' is supposed to be a shotgun but it's quite hard to add any definition on it.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on February 06, 2007, 03:01:46 am
Splat: sexy!  That right girl's front/belly button totally doesn't line up with the rest of her, though.

Evil-Ville:  I like it.  The character is a lot more interesting now.  I don't like how the texture of the foreground is somewhere in between steel, rock and roots.  It's not really defined well.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on February 06, 2007, 07:29:23 am
It's not a bellybutton, it's the ribcage showing I guess. But there's errors enough in planar construction and anatomy in that piece, should splatpixel ever decide to step out of his stylized comfort zone and grow to fix.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: legofreak on February 07, 2007, 06:56:14 am
I played with some virtual Legos today! :)  And no, didn't use instructions. The design is mine.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/calypson/photos/rovercg1.png)

almost looks like the kinds of stuff i make  ;D

its got an interesting suspention with the rubber bands. but was it really necessary to have a 1:60 motor to wheel ratio? that thing must be slow... at least it has torque
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rox on February 12, 2007, 04:53:12 pm
School project. XSI and Photoshop. Windows are totally ugly, but I didn't have time to make an interior, and I couldn't leave the reflection in after making them broken, so that's is as good as it gets.
 

(http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5518/crashpsd2hkopierayz6.jpg)

[edit] Slightly bigger version (http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/2504/crashpsd2hkopierafj3.jpg) [/edit]
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zach on February 13, 2007, 01:41:20 am
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/toptoingwithloveyo.png)

I got a new moleskine, it's neat.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rox on February 15, 2007, 09:58:57 pm
Wow, look at me go. Another school thing. Part concept art, part fun.
Yeh, that's a boxing glove attached to his arm cannon.

(http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/2887/cyborgbjs3.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Malor on February 16, 2007, 02:36:14 am
Excessivly veiny troll anyone? gotta love doodling through Algebra...

(http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/8207/ogremn8.png)

Gotta love veins.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Hishnak on February 16, 2007, 11:40:26 pm
(http://aphoticpixel.gorobotics.net/images/artwork/Portfolio/cobbledchord.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on February 17, 2007, 08:45:39 pm
http://www.locustleaves.com/sketches.png

You could tell where I grew bored of doing eye studies and started drawing Bruce Lee and stuff
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Malor on February 18, 2007, 02:37:00 am
ha ha nice. I like the animated avvy helm :o
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Stwelin on February 18, 2007, 04:25:21 am
that bruce sketch, pixel, banner, now.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on February 18, 2007, 07:16:23 am
Banner has enough Bruce. And I'd get bored of pixeling yet another figure with muscle definition etc etc I've done enough such pieces for now.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zach on February 18, 2007, 10:41:31 pm
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/mrhotshot.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: khorin on February 18, 2007, 11:54:17 pm
ooh I like but aren't the ears sticking out too much??
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zach on February 19, 2007, 01:19:57 am
stylistic choice, but I could see where it could get outa' hand.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Malor on February 20, 2007, 12:52:01 am
ooh I like but aren't the ears sticking out too much??

Maybe it's symbolic of Bush?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: konjak on February 20, 2007, 07:42:00 am
(http://www.konjak.org/tie2.jpg)

Weird nose!
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Larwick on February 20, 2007, 08:00:03 pm
That's awesome, konjak.

Something i started drawing last night and finished off this afternoon:

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/Larwick/ChaoticRedfuse.png)

Yo.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on February 20, 2007, 08:51:35 pm
Heh, dang pretty sweet yo.  Did you use a ref for the snake?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Larwick on February 20, 2007, 10:35:14 pm
Heh, dang pretty sweet yo.  Did you use a ref for the snake?

Thanks fakta.  :)

Yeah, i've never tried drawing a snake like this before so i had to type 'snake fangs' into google, just used the thumbnails and one bigger pic (http://www.1888fastlap.com/store/files/images/crazy/snake2.jpg) on the first page of that for reference. Most of it was just random and guesswork tbh.  :y:
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: khorin on February 21, 2007, 12:24:39 am
Pretty awesome stuff konjak and Larwick. :-D
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on February 21, 2007, 04:21:56 am
Wow, that reference picture is pretty scary.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on February 21, 2007, 04:25:59 am
Wow, that reference picture is pretty scary.
Yeah, fo rizzle.

Awesome beyond awesome though, Larwicked.

You too, Knojack.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on February 21, 2007, 06:28:50 pm
I drew some fan-art. (http://www.locustleaves.com/rocklee.png)

Naruto's not my favourite manga at all, but I admire Rock Lee.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: khorin on February 22, 2007, 12:04:20 am
*Dies

I love it! Great work Helm. You've really captured the essence of Rock Lee.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Cow on February 22, 2007, 12:10:49 am
Those lines in the background are pretty extreme. 8) It's actually hard to focus on the character with the busy background, I think.

Maybe.

Looks cool though. :y:
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: konjak on February 22, 2007, 12:31:29 am
Helm, looks good, but you should've left a white outline on him to highlight him.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Malor on February 22, 2007, 11:07:58 pm
I drew some fan-art. (http://www.locustleaves.com/rocklee.png)

Naruto's not my favourite manga at all, but I admire Rock Lee.

that is amazing helm! I love Naruto  :-[
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: legofreak on February 24, 2007, 04:41:07 am
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/legofreak1988/drawings/unicorn.jpg)
result of boredom... i dont know how to draw horses
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: .TakaM on February 24, 2007, 10:20:42 am
finished a skin for my DS flash cart:
(http://www.mavisxp.com/r4/skins/1172317431_preview.jpg)
obviously based off the wii's interface ;)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: JJ Naas on February 24, 2007, 02:54:39 pm
(http://ungroup.net/jjntemp/digikuvia/On_That_Fateful_Night_by_jjnaas.jpg)

A pic I made a year ago for fun. I was playing a Warhammer Fantasy adventure with my friends at the time. Shadows over Bögenhaven, Death on Reik..



(http://ungroup.net/jjntemp/digikuvia/bmpanel.jpg)

A panel from a web comic that I draw: The Broken Mirror (http://www.the-broken-mirror.net/)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: The B.O.B. on February 24, 2007, 04:23:45 pm
Dizamn, JJ. That stuff is nice. Do you have some more digital art in your treasure chest?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: JJ Naas on February 24, 2007, 04:39:44 pm
Dizamn, JJ. That stuff is nice. Do you have some more digital art in your treasure chest?

Thanks. :) Some personal work of mine can be seen on my Da gallery (http://jjnaas.deviantart.com/), I'm working on to set up a new online portfolio for my professional work.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on February 24, 2007, 11:14:11 pm
I found your comics not too long ago and absolutely love them! Amazing! Great stuff! *insert more words of praise here*

.TakaM: Nice :y:
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on February 24, 2007, 11:51:34 pm
doodelpoo brushtest

(http://ptoing.net/skullrough.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on February 25, 2007, 03:23:10 am
first non humanoid thing ive drawn in quite a while:
(http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/2282/plantdrawingci7.png)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rerg1 on February 25, 2007, 10:03:40 am
Fucking Hot Rymura.

Serouisly, your such an insparation to me.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on February 26, 2007, 03:18:42 am
somehow i just today discovered this topic.  how did i miss this? (i assumed it was off-topic discussions like on most forums, where people talk about random shit)

(http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/6217/sigfriedtf1.jpg)

not much, but it's what i was doodling while i was looking at posts.  Conceptual art for Sigurd Fafnir's-Bane, as per his description in the nieblung saga.  would that i could read old-english better though, as some words i couldnt understand at all.  Messed up the beard a bit, it should be golden-red like his hair, but because i couldnt get the texture right before i lost all of the lightness it ended up....well, a lot like how my own grows in - much darker than my hair.



also, about the ink issue on the last page: i think it should really be a personal choice, not some formulaic bullshit style that gets a page done a day for the boss, especially since once you learn how to do it well, your own style will be much faster than the formulas.  People like Kojima and Miller and Frazetta are respected for definging their own styles; the former by his super-loose ink-and-wash tehcniques, the second by his extreme lighting and "gritty" texturing, and the third for his combination of both before either of the others was even born.  On the other hand, people like Buscema are respected for getting lots and lots of stuff done pretty well.  Whoever did that tutorial is going to be one of a million and a half wanna-be Buscema's.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on February 26, 2007, 07:18:40 am
Kojima? Hideo Kojima of MGS games? He doesn't do any art as far as I know.

Would you like critique on your piece of artwork?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on February 26, 2007, 11:41:03 am
Goseki Kojima.  Not the most masterly of artists, but certainly a unique on in the industry.

i wasn't looking for critique of such a sketch but i certainly wont mind it.  you might find it difficult to point out all the mistakes though ^^, i didnt realise how many there were until i scanned it and saw it at about twice the original size (at least, thats how large it is on my monitor.)  IT would be good to hear though, since the sketch is the basis for a project im going to be starting; illustrating the life of Sigmund (chapters 13-30 of the nieblung / volsunga saga)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Larwick on February 26, 2007, 08:23:11 pm
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/Larwick/Joule-redfuse-fin1small.png)

Yey! Spazzy pose (bad anatomy) ftw.  :-X

Haha Adarias, the first thing i thought when i saw that was an older version of the long haired you in your avatar..  :y:
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Blick on February 26, 2007, 08:42:21 pm
There's a lot of little things that I'm not sure I like about it, Larwick. The way her hair flows, how thin she is around her midsection, how big her hands seem, her right leg seems chunky compared to the left, and I think that for wearing two shirts, her body is too well defined.

I do like the wardrobe you've given her, and the colors are really appealing. Love the orange, everytime.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Evil-Ville on February 26, 2007, 09:51:15 pm
I think the face looks sort of manly. Could be just me though.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Lawrence on February 26, 2007, 11:15:22 pm
I thought she was a man until I took a closer look. I suggest making the face more feminine and making the shoulders smaller. And just to be really picky... the strong light on her white top would reflect onto the underside of her brown sleeve. Great piece though.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on February 27, 2007, 06:52:22 am
i wasn't looking for critique of such a sketch but i certainly wont mind it.  you might find it difficult to point out all the mistakes though

I didn't intend to crit-rape it, just a few things that jumped at me when I saw it.

(http://www.locustleaves.com/sigfriedtf.png)

My main issue is the nose. Noses are difficult, especially for people that might come from anime-type backgrounds. The volumetrics of a nose aren't exactly something I have a mastery of (I tend to make way too many same-type noses, based on my own, as is usual) but when I sketched out the nose you had made (in the middle) various faults in formation became clearer. The biggest thing is when to show or not to show the nosetril connection to the face. I think it's a matter of from which level one looks at the face, but generally I'd suggest connecting nosetril-hole to the curve that shapes the nosetril, otherwise it just looks very odd. I have a good friend and comic artist that did what you did on this piece for years before he decided to study noses more. I hope the edit helps a bit. Furthermore, in the edit, check out the bright white under the eye-bag, it's one of these things that really make a face seem more alive if you add them. Furthermore, I added a few more light planes to the left side of the face, not strictly realistic but to help show the shape and volume. The left eye was too high I think. Then again perhaps not, I didn't take the tilt of the face too much into account. I added a flat light in the left side of that little thing we have under our nose whose name escapes me, since it'd make sense to catch light from the right-lightsource, and see how it helps define that area a bit more?

The main reason I wanted to critique the nose is that your avatar, and and two older pieces you had made had similar nose-problems if memory serves.

Larwick, it's a nice piece, of all the things I'd be careful with the gesturing left arm, as the wrist cannot withstand that placement.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Mirre on February 27, 2007, 11:02:00 am
Did this piece this weekend:

The character belongs to NibbleKat (http://nibblekat.deviantart.com/). I had fun playing around with this piece, and I'm really happy with how the frills and lace and stuff came out... and the shoes! The style is supposed to look a bit Victorian and romantic. It's also obviously inspired by the gothic lolita clothing style. The character wears a mask because she has blown away most of her face in an accident as a teen. I messed up a little when inking the fingers, so no need to comment on that.
(http://bluedelirium.com/gallery/pe/keratinjane.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Larwick on February 27, 2007, 02:32:22 pm
Hehe, thanks dudes. I agree with all the crits, i probably won't work on that piece any more, but i'll definetely keep it all in mind for my next. I never seem to realise these kinds of mistakes until i start colouring, and then i just can't be assed to fix them (i was really keen on practicing my colouring skills, as i havent tried in months and months). Perhaps i'll draw a big boobied girly girl next time.... nott.  ^-^
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Malor on February 27, 2007, 10:54:04 pm
I thought she was a man until I took a closer look. I suggest making the face more feminine and making the shoulders smaller. And just to be really picky... the strong light on her white top would reflect onto the underside of her brown sleeve. Great piece though.

damn you stole my crit :'(...I like it except for the masculine ness...
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on February 27, 2007, 11:27:56 pm
thanks helm, that helped a lot.  i always have that same tendency of showing the nose from several different angles at the same time, ending up with nostrils that face up >.<.  it's a classic mistake of mine (http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/6278/untitledvt8.jpg)
I'm not sure about the white in the eyes, it's a pet-peeve of mine when  people do that.
the eyes were definately unaligned, i was thinking more of raising the left and lowering the right, but your edit works.

i also like the redefined jaw, you didnt mention it? but i thought it was one of the better decisions

i worry that the face flattens out too much with the redefined right cheek and extended chin, to me it seems to loose a little too much of it's curve.  Very hellenic, which is more attractive to many people and not to mention how portraits are typcially taught, but one of my goals here is to honor my small-chinned barrel-shaped Danish ancestry :P

thanks again

Quote
that little thing we have under our nose whose name escapes me
filtrum :P

Quote
people that might come from anime-type backgrounds
nail on the head.  rue the day i picked up that interest, there's so much i still need to unlearn from it >.<

so that im not posting words without artwork:
(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3249/conceptscharacterssouthrn9.png)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on February 27, 2007, 11:47:34 pm
an illustration. i really liked the concept but i feel like i didnt live up to it with the execution at all:
(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8683/doidz6.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Blick on February 28, 2007, 06:12:24 am
I don't like the placement of the I. It's too stray. Reminds me of how a person would continue a word when they're out of space, so they just curve their writing. Just doesn't look pretty when that happens.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Sherman Gill on February 28, 2007, 07:01:59 pm
Adarias, that last picture is awesome.


So... I drew this guy who's linework was really busy and complicated in order to overcome my lack of detailing when drawing stuff with photoshop... Didn't work, but I am proud of the result.
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b139/InaneAndMatu/HardShelledOutside.png)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on February 28, 2007, 07:47:52 pm
(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3249/conceptscharacterssouthrn9.png)

Use reference on arm holding a stick for that one. Also head is pretty large, but otherwise it's a nice piece.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: The B.O.B. on February 28, 2007, 08:30:03 pm
I actually don't think her/his head is that large. Looks fine to me, since my reasoning leads me to believe in human growth, teen proportions tend to be a little wonky in development. That is IF this person(I swear, I have a hard time defining which sex is which, with your pieces Adarias) is a teenager. Otherwise, yeah, big head. I agree about the stick, though. His/her fist seems to be clenching it at a different angle, than the position of the stick itself. Also, that little knob sticking out on our right side of his/her left knee's armor, really makes it look strange as if her knee is twisted...

Detail looks great though..

***edit***

So it's a she...
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on February 28, 2007, 08:42:29 pm
that would be a female, note the breasts.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on March 01, 2007, 02:19:16 am
yeah, shes a girl in her late teens.  common proportions dictat that young or just short adults are about 7 heads tall....:

(http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/5872/oopsdj9.png)

so yeah, big head makes her look even younger.  she has a high waist too, i always goof that.  oh well, ill work on that more next time around.

the spear i noticed the moment i made the line, but it and the hand were both so dark already.  thats the trouble with hurrying >.<, all my first lines were dark and final.

Sherman - id love to see some unification of your lightsource.  not all of his body can be in the light....fix that up and it will be a very nice piece
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on March 01, 2007, 03:20:44 am
High waist = MANGA LEFTOVER POOP! UNLEARN LITTLE SOLDIER! GODSPEED!
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Meta|Fox on March 01, 2007, 03:55:01 am
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(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3249/conceptscharacterssouthrn9.png)
Bah, ignore them! I think it looks great!
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Cow on March 01, 2007, 04:32:07 am
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Bah, ignore them! I think it looks great!
Ignoring crits is always helpful.

E-sarcasm if you didn't realize.

I think it looks great too. But it could look even greater.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/mccow28/lemonman2.png)
Drawing of lmnop's character for an activity at www.punaji.com (http://www.punaji.com).

Legs are horrible, I know. The scanning was pretty bad, too, methinks. Looks much better on paper.

Facial features are fun to draw.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: The B.O.B. on March 01, 2007, 04:39:00 am
High waist = MANGA LEFTOVER POOP! UNLEARN LITTLE SOLDIER! GODSPEED!

Adarias, I suggest you give Ptoing a wet willy in the ear, stick your hands down your pants, whip them out, and then shake his hands. This is the correct gesture to let people know you understand, and shall follow their advice, in the strange lands through which Ptoing and his people thrive...

Jokes aside, I don't hate it. I actually like it. The concept of the armor, as well as the undergarments, look great. Her face doesn't look so anime-ish, as much as her body does. Again, I don't think this is a bad thing, but should be a habit best left alone. If I were to add any detail to it, I'd actually have her hold a helmet in the other arm. Idle hands are the devils work, young'n. I feel that characters with weapons, should show emotion with both hands, not only the one gripping the slaying device. If done properly, hands can display emotion better than the face...in my opinion, at least. Still though, I really like this piece. Great concept art, in my eyes.

Mc(hammer)cow28: I like it. There are issues with it, perspective-wise, of course.(I should know since I tried this exact perspective, and failed miserably with a replica of Guile at pixeljoint) I understand there is an underlying style, but in this case, it can't pull the sheets over the eyes with the  issues dealing with perspective. The legs, like you mentioned, are throwing it off. I think they should be pulled back a little bit more. Also his left arm looks strange. Not even out of perspective, just strange, as if we were to see it normally, it would be limp and dead. I still like the designs on his coat though...
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on March 01, 2007, 04:47:26 am
Hahaha, I really like it as well, the design is refreshingly realistic I have to say.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Checkworth on March 01, 2007, 05:14:37 am
@Adarias: even with anatomical problems and whatall, that drawing is just great. I don't mean just looks great...somehow it exemplifies everything I love about the kind of books I read. Saved 4ever on me 'puter. Just perfect =)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on March 01, 2007, 06:23:58 am
RAWRRR!!!

Got a mail from APAG (some french artist organisation) some time ago. They are doing an artbook on the theme "Unite for Children" with UNICEF and they asked me if i wanted to take part. Pro bono work, the profit goes to charity, which is nice and the artists get some free promotion as well. Deadline is 1st of March (ZOMG TODAY)
and I started like 5 days ago to do it. So anyway, got finished.

(http://ptoing.net/unicef_final.jpg)

The full res is fucking massive, about 4600x6900.

Click for massive 100% closeup of the middle skull (http://ptoing.net/unicef_skull.jpg)

Was good fun I have to say.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on March 01, 2007, 06:38:15 am
Hehe all proportion charts should have 'FUCK' entries.

Adarias, a good trick I've found is that when you scan lineart, you should zone out of the 'I AM DRAWING THIS' mindset and into the 'I AM OBSERVING THIS' mindset. Look at your piece analytically and notice as much as you can that could be wrong. Then don't be afraid to resize, rotate and skew stuff in photoshop until everything is correct. It's not as drastic as not making mistakes in the first place, but believe me you're doing a huge service to your brain to NOT KEEP art that you know has errors around, if you can fix it. The mind's eye is trained by the art it looks at, and it will repeat the mistakes. Our own art is the art we look most intenfully at, therefore has the biggest feedback loop effect on what we'll draw in the future.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on March 01, 2007, 02:10:22 pm
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I suggest you give Ptoing a wet willy in the ear, stick your hands down your pants, whip them out, and then shake his hands.
oh, but i already have  :y:
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Idle hands are the devils work, young'n
since the spear (in har case) is primarily a two-handed weapon and it didnt fit her well to have a buckler/pelta i left it empty, but i like the idea of a helmet; it makes combat sense and lets the viewer see her face too (which is ment to show a little bit of sadness mixed with a little bit of resolve)

Ptoing, you heard all my crits already.  final product looks great, but this monitor is so dark i can only see the top half.  ill say more about it when i can see it better :P

Helm - i hadnt thought of using that as a learning tool....ill try that next time. for art that i show, id rather have mistakes than illegitimacies, but that's a mindset that wont get me many places i suppose >.<
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Kennethfejer on March 02, 2007, 05:26:16 pm
looks cool ptoing  :y:


(http://www.kennethfejer.com/images/003.png)
still need to texture the hair and fix the head a bit.
292 triangles.
64x64 texture

Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zach on March 02, 2007, 06:53:33 pm
omg I <3 you kenneth!
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rerg1 on March 02, 2007, 07:00:12 pm
Rymura or anyone. . . How can you perfectly make those lines cross and stuff?.
# this type.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Joseph on March 02, 2007, 07:00:51 pm
nice ken, but are the wings 3D or just a 2D plane?  and then the hair needs something, otherwise great work.  make a damn tutorial!

ptoing, I love the black kid and skeleton art.  the black kid reminds me of bill cosby's kid show...anyway, look awesome.

Adarias, I agree with MetalFox, it looks awesome.  I didnt see any anatomy problems until you showed the 6 headed size.  i'd love to see that in pixel art.

Larwick, I really like that girl you made above but to me it comes off as a guy with a nice rack.  other than that nice job.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on March 02, 2007, 07:10:02 pm
Rymura or anyone. . . How can you perfectly make those lines cross and stuff?.
# this type.

Haha, what kind of a question is that? It's simple crosshatching, if you can't even make short lines like that in a parallel fashion, then you REALLY need to sit down and practise.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rerg1 on March 02, 2007, 07:12:29 pm
I can but in Photoshop sometimes the lines mess up.  :-[
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: AdamAtomic on March 02, 2007, 07:15:56 pm
kenneth, dude, hot.  how about an action pose with a bow and arrow?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on March 02, 2007, 08:17:09 pm
Rymura or anyone. . . How can you perfectly make those lines cross and stuff?.
# this type.

is my alias that hard to spell?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rerg1 on March 02, 2007, 08:34:39 pm
I couldn't remember it.

Can anyone show me some kewl set of brushes?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on March 02, 2007, 11:21:09 pm
No.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Evil-Ville on March 02, 2007, 11:35:58 pm
Now, now, helm! Stop deciding for the rest of the forums like that!

Here Rerg1, take a look at this fine set of brushes.

(http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/1689/brushcupsetallgi4.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: The B.O.B. on March 03, 2007, 02:58:58 am
I'm quite partial to the blue brush, sir...(Dinomite, heh, heh...lame.)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Panda on March 03, 2007, 10:02:53 am
Are those things inside the cups supposed to be hourglasses? :0
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rox on March 03, 2007, 01:01:17 pm
Someone once decded that time is the best way to ensure a thorough brushing, so yes. I believe they are.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rerg1 on March 03, 2007, 02:30:10 pm
I have those.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Skull on March 03, 2007, 03:54:30 pm
That.. is so awesome.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: GOODNIGHTdestroyer on March 03, 2007, 04:37:28 pm
Time to put some more art on these pages. :D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/jsgo410/headyyydeadybear.gif)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/jsgo410/htcopy.gif)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/jsgo410/nehe.gif)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Kcilc on March 03, 2007, 05:33:46 pm
Those are cool GOODNIGHTdestroyer, I like the teddy bear especially. :y:

And heres something of my own:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/Daroge/CG/RollerBug4.jpg)
My first (semi)completed CG piece.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: AdamAtomic on March 03, 2007, 08:09:13 pm
Kohina drove me over the edge, and I tried creating my own chiptune, you can download it here (http://adam.lastchancemedia.com/fight.nsf) (you'll need a NSF player or plugin though!).  The song would be for when a group of zombies appear and you have to fight them off - so it starts out a little ominous and then kicks out the jams, as it were.  I am REALLY new to this, so there are no arpeggios or nice DPCM drums, just noise channel and volume envelopes and that's about it.  Also I have basically no formal music training and only the faintest knowledge of music theory; it probably shows!  LISTEN AT YOUR OWN RISK.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rox on March 03, 2007, 08:58:16 pm
Oh, music eh? Nice timing, I just.. finished spending time on this.

http://media.putfile.com/Icicle

This, too, would be semi-backgroundy for a game, so I intentionally have it not quite covering quite as much of the audible register of frequencies as I would. Except for a couple of places that I beefed up a little just for variety's sake. The idea is that one isn't supposed to be actively listening to it, anyway. Dunno if we'll actually put it in the game, though. I'd need to make two more songs in the same style to cover the levels, and I don't really have time for that. Ah well, it was fun.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: AdamAtomic on March 03, 2007, 11:32:03 pm
nice dude, the solo was really welcome, the main riff could use a little variety i think, but for the number of times it repeats its still pretty pleasant!  That's the real challenge with these things isn't it?  The scales you're using definitely have an asian vibe, is that part of the setting for the game?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rox on March 04, 2007, 01:03:40 am
Yeah, I suck at variety. I really don't like to repeat things that much, but otherwise everything always comes out too short. It does help a little if you imagine it being in a game.

And I definitely didn't intent for it to sound Asian. In fact, someone on MSN insisted that it has an Egyptian hint to it? I'm clueless! All I know is that I got to do a TON of things I hadn't done before. Including a funky bassline, a generic trance bassline and xylophones! Whee, xylophones.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: flaber on March 04, 2007, 09:31:34 am
mmm
i suppose ill share my little bit iv been playing around with...
still not done - but more or less is.
i dont get much time to sketch or pixel these days :(
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/flaber/Linearts/ant5.jpg)

still need to play with hands and face.
the dark areas are going to be full of smaller wires and techno-gadgetry stuff.

Im planning to pixel this, so some of the detail will be added later.

special thanks to Helm and Zach for their helpful anatomy edits
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Locrian on March 05, 2007, 03:15:34 am
sketchbookage
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c41/Burtzum/sketchbook/bookburn.jpg)
burn ze books.  oogle ze butts.

I swear I'll start contributing to the pixel portion of this forum someday.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: robotriot on March 05, 2007, 12:19:45 pm
Some recent nudes:

(http://robotriot.hokuten.net/img/akt10.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: khorin on March 06, 2007, 05:26:10 am
Old oil painting done 3 years ago. I was trying to go for the Ann Neel style with that blue outline. Yeah...
(http://shizucor.com/art/03_04.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Locrian on March 06, 2007, 01:08:08 pm
nerditry.
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c41/Burtzum/print.jpg?t=1173186323)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Malor on March 07, 2007, 12:23:38 am
Old oil painting done 3 years ago. I was trying to go for the Ann Neel style with that blue outline. Yeah...
(http://shizucor.com/art/03_04.jpg)

reminds me of that van gogh portrait.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zach on March 07, 2007, 01:13:09 am
locrian, khorin and flaber

woot woot to you dudes

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/cornalius.png)(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/BIRDACIOUS.png)(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/ofigyous2.png)
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/X_X.png
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/hungerrrrr.png
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/GLOSARY.png
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/APOCALYPTO.png
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: GOODNIGHTdestroyer on March 07, 2007, 05:08:13 pm
The third one, on the right has an amazing palette.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zach on March 08, 2007, 04:00:39 am
The third one, on the right has an amazing palette.

{thank you.}
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: philipptr on March 08, 2007, 09:17:49 pm
My try at an small pixel work with only one ramp and few colors (6) in mspaint (palette was changed in photoshop afterwards):
(http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/3238/ex2go2.gif)
(supposed to be a drop falling on a leaf)
Well the small palette is actually a bad excuse but whatever.

..now that I think of it I could have removed the white but well it was just a small thing done while being bored ;)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Sherman Gill on March 10, 2007, 12:27:10 am


Sadly, that's probably one of my most anatomically correct people drawn without a reference.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: khorin on March 10, 2007, 02:56:07 am


It's incomplete and was drawn in haste. Thought I might as well post it while I'm blogging. Heh...
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Stwelin on March 10, 2007, 04:13:26 am
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b177/stwelin/robot.jpg)
Yeah, there are some issues with the arms/hands, still being sorted out, it's a work in progress.

Here are some progress screens:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b177/stwelin/wiprobot.gif
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b177/stwelin/robotWIP.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b177/stwelin/robotWIP2.jpg
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on March 10, 2007, 04:26:54 am
(http://xs413.xs.to/xs413/07105/Sketches.jpg)(http://bp1.blogger.com/_01FvJCYXjPc/ReXP0faN1wI/AAAAAAAAAAw/qTWvPKTj2aY/s320/pineowl.jpg)
some sketches for monsters, mostly unfinished and hastily prepared so the scan isnt the best

stwel - i very much like the coloring, but the pse is very flat and dull.  Even just twisting the undrawn potions like the left arm and the legs so that they are more dynamic would be a real help for this piece.

sherm - have you tried blocking out proportions before drawing?  its one of the few formulaic teachings that has many more benefits than problems.  The design is pretty solid, but the anatomy needs work like you said.  Also, i wonder if a cleaner style of drawing would better suit your subject in this case (girls + smooth armor =/= roughness)

khor- i need to know a bit more about what is going on before i can really give any feedback on the second.  for the first, i would suggest putting much more color into the flesh.

loc - when i see the piece, i cant help but wonder if the environment says all that you need it to, without the people there.  they dont seem to add much to the piece, which is already very good.

robo - your nudes have a stylized deformity that is very pleasing in a sketch and detrimental in a study.  if these are for visual appeal, then great!  if these are for observation and learning.....try looking a bit harder, particularly at proportions (of the legs especially) and structure (of faces, ribs, and hips most).  There are some really important aspects that aren't really showing up in those two.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zach on March 10, 2007, 06:43:28 am
Adarias: cute characters

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/UMPH.png)

quickie, there's more now, but I'll scan later.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on March 10, 2007, 12:54:50 pm
v. cool zach, makes me think of FF a bit but thats not bad.  love the grace of the figure.

jw, by the paper color, binding style and cover color...is that a moleskine by any chance?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Malor on March 10, 2007, 03:07:30 pm
v. cool zach, makes me think of FF a bit but thats not bad.  love the grace of the figure.

jw, by the paper color, binding style and cover color...is that a moleskine by any chance?

yeah I think it is.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zach on March 10, 2007, 05:09:25 pm
aye, it most definitely is, I love the little sucker to death!
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: khorin on March 10, 2007, 08:34:20 pm
Zach- That's an awesome pose.

Adarias - Well, my prof wanted us to do a self-portrait with a sheet covering part of us. It's supposed to have been a study of folds I think. This one was done quickly so there's a lot of work that needs to be done. I drew this in front of a mirror and I think the lightsource wasn't very good. I agree about the first one, right now, he looks more "white" than flesh color.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Locrian on March 11, 2007, 02:09:54 am
loc - when i see the piece, i cant help but wonder if the environment says all that you need it to, without the people there.  they dont seem to add much to the piece, which is already very good.
Yeah I dunno for some reason I always feel like there has to be a person in an image.  So I tack em on.  Unfortunately I can't draw people without reference so they tend to bring things down.

My first 3D model, still working on it:
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c41/Burtzum/wip.jpg)
I know there are some modelers here.  What are the requirements to make a clean mesh for import into a game?  I know video games use tris.  But I've seen people model in quads.  You can have the program convert to tris when you're done.  At the moment I'm mixing tris and quads.  Is this ok?  Are there rules for how many edges are allowed to radiate from a single vertex?  etc...  Haven't even begun to look into the process for UV mapping.  Sigh.  Daunting.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: huZba on March 11, 2007, 10:11:20 am
I know there are some modelers here.  What are the requirements to make a clean mesh for import into a game?  I know video games use tris.  But I've seen people model in quads.  You can have the program convert to tris when you're done.  At the moment I'm mixing tris and quads.  Is this ok?  Are there rules for how many edges are allowed to radiate from a single vertex?  etc...  Haven't even begun to look into the process for UV mapping.  Sigh.  Daunting.

Well, the most basic things you have to look out for are polygons with more than 4 edges. Everything is always in tris, even the model you have there, but the modeling software is displaying it in quads and so forth. Since you're using 3dsmax, you can set it to show the tris in the model.

For your model, there's that one polygon with a gazillion edeges, so that's going to get messed up for sure, so you better cut it to quads. Then there's things like polystrips, fans and such that make processing of the model/texture faster, but you probably don't need to think about those atm.

You should check that most quads are almost planar to make sure there wont be any shading errors in the engine due to weird normals. Another thing to be aware of is very long quads, cause they're going to be cut in half to make two tris which can cause weird shading in places.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: junkboy on March 11, 2007, 02:30:18 pm
(http://i16.tinypic.com/2d9sdv7.jpg)

Schultz inspired drawing. And yes, the amphibian monstrousity is a diligent southpaw masturbator.  :y:
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on March 11, 2007, 03:39:07 pm
gotta admit, that feels more Allen St. John than it does Marc Schultz, but its is still extremely badass.  Would be nice to see a scene that involved less than one plane, but this is nice work
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: zeid on March 11, 2007, 05:22:56 pm
Loving this stuff you guys are showing.
(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/1546/alienfaceft9.gif)
this is pretty old it was my first go using photo shop to colour a sketch, (and my only one to date). I'm fairly happy with the actual colours i could achieve but i majorly skrewed up my line work when shading etc. I abandoned the piece ages ago so i only 'finished' colouring the face. Anyone who could give me some advice or some good tutes on this stuff it would be much appreciated as no doubt i will have a go at it again sometime. (I think doing a lot of pixel work for a while has improved my art skills in general regarding such things as lighting anatomy and colour theory  ;D)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on March 11, 2007, 05:46:06 pm
junkboy, very nice, pay attention to the right ( ours ) leg on the human in the piece, it's in a very odd position
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: AdamAtomic on March 11, 2007, 06:17:03 pm
I know there are some modelers here.  What are the requirements to make a clean mesh for import into a game?  I know video games use tris.  But I've seen people model in quads.  You can have the program convert to tris when you're done.  At the moment I'm mixing tris and quads.  Is this ok?  Are there rules for how many edges are allowed to radiate from a single vertex?  etc...  Haven't even begun to look into the process for UV mapping.  Sigh.  Daunting.

Mixing tris and quads is fine, unless you plan to use what are called "subdivision surfaces" but these are not used THAT often for gaming purposes.  There aren't really broad rules about how many edges are allowed to radiate from a single vertex, but it is good practice to avoid these so-called "fans", as engines that are capable of tri-stripping will be stumped by them.  If you divide your circular areas with parallel lines instead, the auto-tri-stripping algorithms will have a much easier time, and your model will render faster.


FAN

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PARALLEL LINES
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Yeah non-fixed length ascii :P  hope it makes sense anyways!
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: huZba on March 11, 2007, 08:22:07 pm
I know there are some modelers here.  What are the requirements to make a clean mesh for import into a game?  I know video games use tris.  But I've seen people model in quads.  You can have the program convert to tris when you're done.  At the moment I'm mixing tris and quads.  Is this ok?  Are there rules for how many edges are allowed to radiate from a single vertex?  etc...  Haven't even begun to look into the process for UV mapping.  Sigh.  Daunting.

Mixing tris and quads is fine, unless you plan to use what are called "subdivision surfaces" but these are not used THAT often for gaming purposes.  There aren't really broad rules about how many edges are allowed to radiate from a single vertex, but it is good practice to avoid these so-called "fans", as engines that are capable of tri-stripping will be stumped by them.  If you divide your circular areas with parallel lines instead, the auto-tri-stripping algorithms will have a much easier time, and your model will render faster.


FAN

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-.-
/|\


PARALLEL LINES
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/___
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/___

Yeah non-fixed length ascii :P  hope it makes sense anyways!


uh, actually, most 3D engines that incorporate tri stripping also do it for fans. It's about calculating new tris by adding just one new vertex. So proper fans are no problem, like the one on the side of the ship, as long as the engine understands that it's a tri-fan.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Locrian on March 11, 2007, 09:15:35 pm
doh I just got rid of the fan:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v177/Locrian/newcircle.jpg)

I know I've seen fans used for things like tables though.  Is one more optimal than the other?  Or does it not really matter.  And Huzba, when you say keep my faces planar, do you mean just try not to let them twist much?  Treat the quads as solid quads, not as flexible quads made up of tris.

Also, is this not a good thing to do:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v177/Locrian/badfan.jpg)

hmmm.  I need to rip out the more organic ship models from Eve Online and check them out in Maya.  Would probably be a good way to learn.  *downloads 14-day trial*
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: AdamAtomic on March 11, 2007, 09:26:46 pm
uh, actually, most 3D engines that incorporate tri stripping also do it for fans. It's about calculating new tris by adding just one new vertex. So proper fans are no problem, like the one on the side of the ship, as long as the engine understands that it's a tri-fan.

Not that I've heard of - the big one in the console world is renderware, and last i heard it did NOT have support for fans, but my info could easily be out of date, i have not researched this stuff reasonably for quite a while now.  I know that most 3d APIs have syntax for rendering fans, but I was under the impression that most engines (meaning the full work pipeline) were not very good at parsing them and integrating them into the render process.  I thought that most engines wanted tri strips so that it could make one display list of all the strips in the piece and then render the model insanely fast that way.  Fans are much less general purpose than strips, and would require a more complex parser and render pipeline in-game.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: huZba on March 11, 2007, 09:49:39 pm

Not that I've heard of - the big one in the console world is renderware, and last i heard it did NOT have support for fans, but my info could easily be out of date, i have not researched this stuff reasonably for quite a while now.  I know that most 3d APIs have syntax for rendering fans, but I was under the impression that most engines (meaning the full work pipeline) were not very good at parsing them and integrating them into the render process.  I thought that most engines wanted tri strips so that it could make one display list of all the strips in the piece and then render the model insanely fast that way.  Fans are much less general purpose than strips, and would require a more complex parser and render pipeline in-game.

There was a long discussion on cgtalk about this without any clear conclusion, mostly because there's so much differences between engines and a lot of exporters do a lot of these things by themselves that a lot of people were actually told not to care about them in places other than where they're completely obvious, like floors or round windows and such. Eniveeeh, here's a good resource http://www.codesampler.com/d3dbook/chapter_05/chapter_05.htm

One psp 3D engine i've worked with had pretty effective stripping which allowed us to give floors a lot of vertices for smooth vertex shading. It also featured fan stripping which allowed for a lot of round shapes in the scene doubling the normal poly quota on screen.

I know I've seen fans used for things like tables though.  Is one more optimal than the other?  Or does it not really matter.  And Huzba, when you say keep my faces planar, do you mean just try not to let them twist much?  Treat the quads as solid quads, not as flexible quads made up of tris.

The way you changed the side is probably faster than the fan. If there was some geometry like the center of the round thing being concave or convex, then the fan would be a good choice. And yeah, treat quads as flat quads and if you have to twist it, then cut it into tris to make sure it doesn't get wonky.
Now another note is that quad next to the cockpit thingy. That might make a very small triangle when it goes to the engine, which could cause shading errors in the surface. Better cut it in half or make it more square. Keeping quads square is a good habit.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on March 12, 2007, 02:59:34 am
(http://xs413.xs.to/xs413/07111/Mia.png)

just a quick sketch of an old character of mine, Mia Pendergast.  Shes been reimagined any number of times, but has maintained more or less the same character; and orphaned girl who uses short knives/swords and a revolver in an off-fantasy steampunk world.  Shes gotten a bit older since the last time i sketched her....

In this particulr re-imagining, she is the daughter of one of the last Mechanists, who dies early in the story when Potager, the nation from fil's and my project Partisan, is conquered by the neighboring Empire of Ganymede some two or three generations after the events of that game.  She joins in a resistance movement against Ganymede, attempting to find and rescue the few who still hold the knowledge of machina, which has been outlawed by the Empire yadda yadda yadda......

for those who might have heard about this character before, the sword doesnt channel one half of the god of change anymore, it's just a piece of metal.  Alphonse, who carried the other half of the god, is also gone in this concept.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: junkboy on March 12, 2007, 12:41:28 pm
Adarias: Allen St. John?! Well, I'll take either.  :lol: Although by "Schultz" I mostly refered to the human looking a lot like Jack from Xenozoic Tales.
Cool gunslinger/samurai chick by the way. You always pick excellent colors.

Helm: Do you mean his left? I can't see much wrong with his right leg, except that the upper leg appears to be a bit long (that's partly because he wears the pants high, but still).


New piece, this time it's Conan the thief getting caught (or something). Also my hand hurts. A lot.
(http://i16.tinypic.com/3zhqgkk.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on March 12, 2007, 12:48:57 pm
Adarias: Nice, tho big head syndrome again, she is barely 6 heads.

Junkboy: That is really nice, tho I think it would benefit from some darker full black shadows a lot.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: willfaulds on March 12, 2007, 12:51:39 pm
Adarias - I as always love you color selection - i know its a quick sketch but her face feels really flat in comparison to everything else. nice stuff though.

junkboy - thats nice, though i agree with ptoing - the busy wall texture means some of the upper characters are lost.

I'm hoping for some c&c on this piece
(http://www.willfaulds.com/pixel-arts/inky_women.jpg)
Its a slight WIP I've rendered to about half way down with some slight exceptions.

Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: khorin on March 12, 2007, 02:15:58 pm
So many different textures and patterns and for some reason the figure reminds of Egon Schiele's work. The arms and chest are elongated. Intentional, yes? And what's going on at the very bottom of the piece?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on March 12, 2007, 02:16:19 pm
(http://www.locustleaves.com/2d9sdv7.jpg)

I like the Conan piece. Whatever school you're going to, it's doing a good job on making you stretch style-wise. The texturing would need to be tighter in my opinion (the thatching texture) and there would have to be pure blacks to keep it balanced. Also the burning coals lightsource would give off a cylindrical darkness effect with the opposite curve than the one you drew.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: willfaulds on March 12, 2007, 07:18:50 pm
Egon Schiele meets Aubrey Beardsley is the intention - have toyed with composition on this one quite a bit hence the roughness of the bottom.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on March 13, 2007, 01:37:01 am
ptoing - seven by my count, but thats just the disproportionatly long legs at work >.<
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on March 13, 2007, 02:34:32 am
6 AND A HALF, MY LAST BID  !yus!
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: flaber on March 13, 2007, 05:38:01 am
awsome character adarias
love your style

quick question going out to whomever:
for inking - do you use just a ball point pen/regular pen, or do you use india ink or something else?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Sherman Gill on March 13, 2007, 06:35:46 am
I personally use a speedball (Small) nibbed pen with some form of Higgins ink.
Anything larger than the small brown pens aren't usefull for much. They can't use crow quill nibs, which means you can't get fine lines very easily, and it's a pain in the ass fitting any speedball pen with a new nib (where most of the small ones come prefitted). And by pain in the ass, I mean I cut myself a bunch and broke three nibs before I gave up.
Speedball ink is pretty... Not good. It's too watery and will sometimes drip from your pen. Higgin's Ink is really perfect, from what I know of inks. Permanent, doesn't clog, doesn't just fall right off of it.

Thas' all my knowledge of the subject ;)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on March 13, 2007, 11:32:11 am
india ink isnt great for linework, it's for brushwork and washing.  Permentent black is the stuff you want, and yeah, higgins is good.  Always use a real pen if you can have access to one, otherwise though a graphic pen will suffice.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Squirrelsquid on March 15, 2007, 04:35:27 am
great art in here!
might as well join in...
(http://mitglied.lycos.de/FatefulGift/havoczone/infected_cerberus_front2.jpg)
rather fast concept... especialy the coloring, but it does get the job done...
the powersuit (and pilot) are infected by an alien organism called omnivore
done for the "Dominance war 2"... the contest ends in a few days though,
and I'm to busy to do a full fledged model with normal map and other maps, so it will not be finished on time...
I will complete it anyway, for my portfolio, some day.

@ willfaulds: looking good! I like the overall design, though it's hard to make out the forms in some spots.
@ Adarias: Lovely colors there... I agree that the face looks a bit flat, but I guess that's ok.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: AdamAtomic on March 15, 2007, 04:55:10 am
death to the polycounters!  cgchat will crush your filthy souls this time...


 fun design though :D  I like the head and left arm quite a bit, not sure if i'm feeling that wing/shoulderpad combo though, the shapes confuse each other I think.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Indigo on March 15, 2007, 07:49:34 pm
there is some great great stuff being posted here.  Gosh.

Here's a new one from me.  A portrait of a friend in Utah.  It was a bit of a quickie, spending about 5-6 hours on it total.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/calypson/wippainting3_small.png)

and this lil thing was the reference...
(http://myspace-331.vo.llnwd.net/00392/13/33/392623331_l.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on March 16, 2007, 12:11:14 am
As a piece of art, i would be more interested in a piece less faithful to the photograph.  As a gift for a friend, i would say damned good work :P

hate to post without putting any art up, so here's from today :

(http://xs313.xs.to/xs313/07115/DSC01616.png)

Detail fo a new painting showing the Sack of Tyre by Alexander's wlite infantry, arguably his most important battle after Issus, where the strongest Carthaginian town in lebanon fell to his forces.  The total defeat of the phoenician half of the empire marked the beginning of alexander's dominance over the eastern mediterranian.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Stwelin on March 16, 2007, 01:13:52 am
mmm... delicious yummy cape flow-y folds goody good...  :0'
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: SolidIdea on March 16, 2007, 12:15:39 pm
at Indigo:
Really nice, in the paiting she looks like the Full House older girl :P

at Adarias:
That looks almighty! What size is the canvas?


------
Just a doodle to pixel over it
(http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8841/princessir7.gif)

The pixel
(http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/1267/lake1gl8.gif)

I'm still missing the crown
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on March 16, 2007, 01:10:48 pm
lovely sense of motion and character

my canvas is 16" x 10" , the photo there (about half an hour into the painting) is a bit less than 4" x 6"
it's part of a 12-piece series based on the Zodiac.  Tyre was sacked in early July under the sign of cancer and the moon is the emblem of the phoenician state. Cancer is also shown on the peltas of alexanders phalangites
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Checkworth on March 16, 2007, 03:03:55 pm
(http://myspace-331.vo.llnwd.net/00392/13/33/392623331_l.jpg)

Dang, it's Bonnie from Jericho. That's a nice painting -- good choice on the clothing background colors :)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: robotriot on March 16, 2007, 09:05:53 pm
Photo reference: http://brendao.chez-alice.fr/iroy_galop3.jpg

(http://robotriot.hokuten.net/img/pferdl.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rawsushi on March 17, 2007, 12:31:23 am
(http://monsoon2d.com/personal/plank-wip.jpg)

By far the easiest cartoon character to recreate. I love you, Plank.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on March 17, 2007, 01:56:29 am
Gryeah, I hate that cartoon.

Lovely face, Indigo.
Lovely...thing, Adarius.
Lovely falling hooker, SolidIdea.
Lovely horsey, RhombusRiot.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Malor on March 17, 2007, 06:38:24 pm
Gryeah, I hate that cartoon.



Ditto, one of the worst cartoons...ever. I really like the horse Robot.
Indigo, that is amazing. I think the cheeks could sue a bit less pink, or at least a less obvious pink.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: eck on March 17, 2007, 06:50:19 pm
Gryeah, I hate that cartoon.

Lovely face, Indigo.
Lovely...thing, AdariAs.
Falling hooker, SolidIdea.
Lovely horsey, ROBOTRiot.


indigo- lookin real good.  i can never seem to get my digipaintings to look like that >.<
adarias- what medium is that? oil on canvass?
robotriot- again, what medium is that?
moonsoon2d- now draw johnny  :)
solididea- lookin good, but the light spot at the bottom of her hair is looking a bit odd to me.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: robotriot on March 17, 2007, 07:32:08 pm
robotriot- again, what medium is that?

It's coloured pencils (Polychromos)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on March 17, 2007, 11:31:12 pm
adarias- what medium is that? oil on canvass?

if only......but i need to be able to ship it by the end of the month.  It's done in acryllic as an admittedly lackluster (no pun intended) time-saver



Artwork  -  New Avatar
was going to post in it's own topic, but didn't think it really desrved one.  was done mostly to celebrate the fact that i am now back down to 112 lbs, 30 lbs less than when my last avatar was made a few months ago.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on March 18, 2007, 03:33:09 am
Is critique okay on the avatar then?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Stwelin on March 18, 2007, 03:49:16 am
Helm's licking his chops to go at the thing, adarias. :P

I've also updated my avatar. now with more than 3 colors! (w..oo?)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on March 18, 2007, 03:56:08 am
im open to general critique if you like, although i should say right up front it's going to retain its roughness and not recieve 'finishing touches' as far as the technique is concerned.  the lack of pixelpolish would be a valid point in this case, but im not going to follow up on it for this particular piece, as it was never intended to be a work of art, only a fun exercise.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on March 18, 2007, 03:59:51 am
It's more that I feel a more unified palette (pulling the various tints closer to a whole) would help this than the lack of polish. I know this has been a general theme for a while, and you as an artist will feel compelled to follow your particular path, but I also feel obliged to keep pointing out what I think is valid critique. You can keep the tonalities with less glaring shifts, yeah? It's a bit calydroscopic at the point. Feels like he's a painter that's gotten all Pollock with his action-painting and has smears of blues on his face.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on March 18, 2007, 04:12:05 am
ah, yeah....i could do that, and it would be a better piece of art.  somehow though i feel like i am better represented by a kalydescope.

(http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/1185/face2oh9.png)(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3672/face2fi3.png)

better, no?  but not my avatar.  i feel compelled to show there what i do before reigning in my bad taste with moderation and theory.  does that make any sense?

the second looks a lot the way i paint...i purposefully use only 3-4 raw colors to mix with let my brush become soiled when working in each region so that i will get colors that are much more like each other.  since im always tempted to go bold i can usually paint dirty like that without making the paints look drab :P
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on March 18, 2007, 04:19:17 am
Well yes, better, though you don't have to lose the saturation on your yellows or anything. Closer mixing doesn't mean a generic brown, you know what I mean. Spike the saturation when you need it, just don't poke holes in it with the complementaries, that's my basic idea.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: digitaldust on March 18, 2007, 06:55:23 am
*This person is obsessed with antitheses.*

(http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/2733/elistudymq9.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on March 18, 2007, 03:30:48 pm
That's a beefy furry nerd.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Stwelin on March 18, 2007, 04:12:33 pm
Yiff elsewhere!

(are those pecks or... gah, i cannot even tell the gender of this being!)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rox on March 18, 2007, 09:23:25 pm
The face tells me it's female. But... gah.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Sherman Gill on March 18, 2007, 09:33:33 pm
I'm scared.

Somebody (That isn't a giant furry genderless nerd) hold me.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: digitaldust on March 19, 2007, 12:32:10 am
It's ttly female.  :crazy:
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Evan on March 19, 2007, 02:32:31 am
I've been scratching since november or something like that.

The beat is from one of Q's vinyls. So are the samples I'm scratching.

I'm not one to just scratch the old "aah" and "fresh" samples, but I figured I'd just use 'em for recording.

http://download.yousendit.com/9E5F7F322F0AC57F
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on March 19, 2007, 04:53:44 pm
(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/5923/sketchcs4.png)

Sketch for Leo cropped from full 16x10 canvas (hercules struggling against the nemean lion).  Working on the lion right now...
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: The B.O.B. on March 19, 2007, 05:12:14 pm
@Adarias: Aahh, very nice. It has some old school appeal. Some issues though. It looks as if realism was attempted in the sketch. If so, either the body is too small, or the thigh/legs are too long. For me, the breasts/pecs are sagged a wee bit low. In fact, it looks sort of feminine to me. Not to mention his left hand seems a bit tiny. I'm no anatomy expert, but if this is a male, than there is still work to be done. If female, there is little, but I still wouldn't call it done.
   However, if this is stylized, then I suppose it could work out for the strange anatomy. I guess once the lion is done, I can put 2 and 2 together, and figure out where you are going with this style-wise. The muscle texture is wonderful, though. Wish I had a firm a grasp of it, as you...
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on March 19, 2007, 07:20:40 pm
at first glance that looks really awesome adarias, but staring at it for a bit i noticed some things that b.o.b didnt mention. his right ankle looks twisted, a little too much to be for stylistic or aesthetic reasons imo. the neck doesnt fit in with the size of his chest, i think its a bit too thick. the tricep, underarm, lat area looks very convoluted( i have lots of problems with that area too, but youre better than me so you dont have an excuse :P)

edit: oh wow, just read that hes supposed to be hercules. i think he needs some definite beefing up to fit the title.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Lawrence on March 19, 2007, 07:43:12 pm
Just a quick, unfinished sketch I did last night, hehe

(http://lawrence.lh.googlepages.com/Ampelkopf.jpg)

Nice drawing Adarias, I like your new avatar too.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on March 19, 2007, 07:55:09 pm
The lighting on his face is very realistic.  Noice.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: huZba on March 19, 2007, 08:28:54 pm
Very nice depth with the face Lawrence.
Cant wait to see that and Adarias' Herc VS lion finished.

Here's some of my sketches:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/huzba/boids.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: The B.O.B. on March 19, 2007, 08:57:21 pm
Just a quick, unfinished sketch I did last night, hehe

(http://lawrence.lh.googlepages.com/Ampelkopf.jpg)

Nice drawing Adarias, I like your new avatar too.

(Blows whistle) Thief! We have a thief on our hands! catch him before he runs off into the night!!!!...joking
I was looking at it, and it reminded me of P"toe"ing's piece (http://pixeljoint.com/pixelart/5746.htm) from pixeljoint. I'm guessing inspiration? Or is that thing an actual character?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Lawrence on March 19, 2007, 09:14:01 pm
Hehe, yes it's supposed to be ptoing's little character, just look at the file name  ::) I wouldn't have thought he'd mind, I had him in a pixel wip I posted up here a few months ago which I still need to finish.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on March 19, 2007, 09:28:34 pm
You mean this (http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?topic=1903.msg28962#msg28962)? Yeah, you definitely should finish it.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: poingo on March 19, 2007, 10:08:27 pm
I'm lovin those sketches huZba! I've been waiting for more since your Batfird! The style is awesome... I hope you get around to pixeling the other two. :D
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on March 19, 2007, 10:22:37 pm
Lawrence, I demand you finish that pixel one. I have not even seen the latest rendition before now! :D
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Stwelin on March 20, 2007, 12:23:04 am
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b177/stwelin/0319071309.jpg)

current project in art class, 'draw a distorted picture of yourself'.

god i'm fucking sick of doing self portraits, i feel as though i'm coming off as conceited.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on March 20, 2007, 01:56:47 am
@Adarias: Aahh, very nice. It has some old school appeal. Some issues though. It looks as if realism was attempted in the sketch. If so, either the body is too small, or the thigh/legs are too long. For me, the breasts/pecs are sagged a wee bit low. In fact, it looks sort of feminine to me. Not to mention his left hand seems a bit tiny. I'm no anatomy expert, but if this is a male, than there is still work to be done. If female, there is little, but I still wouldn't call it done.

yeah, there are definately some things i need to redraw in the sketch, particularly that right leg that got stretched.  I accidentally moved his waist up which lengthened the thigh and shortened the torso, and then i drew a shin to match the thigh and it all went way south.  thatnks for calling my attention to that.  Im also going to tighten the stomach a bit and then rework the pecs.

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at first glance that looks really awesome adarias, but staring at it for a bit i noticed some things that b.o.b didnt mention. his right ankle looks twisted, a little too much to be for stylistic or aesthetic reasons imo. the neck doesnt fit in with the size of his chest, i think its a bit too thick. the tricep, underarm, lat area looks very convoluted( i have lots of problems with that area too, but youre better than me so you dont have an excuse Tongue)

edit: oh wow, just read that hes supposed to be hercules. i think he needs some definite beefing up to fit the title.

i've actually straightened the ankels out considerably from when i was drawing myself in the mirror.  I will figure out something about the neck though.  Could you perhaps be a little more specific about the underarm region? if you jsut mean that it isn't defined, remember this is only a sketch for positioning that is going to be covered by thick paint.
as far as the hercules thing, remember that when fighting the nemean lion, he is only a half-starved adolescent "hero."  He "slays" the lion when it chokes on his arm, which it inteded to eat.  He will get some more meat on his bones though, but don't expect one of your musclemen.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on March 20, 2007, 02:00:43 am
youre only conceited when your self portraits are made to make you look like the most perfect being on earth. amplify your imperfections and youll be fine.

edit: @ adarias
that region just doesnt read well at all. i cant gather anything that looks any serratus muscles, or lats. maybe as you develop it will fix itself. maybe im just seeing it wrong
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on March 20, 2007, 02:05:18 am
Wot are you using for that, Stwelin?
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: alkaline on March 20, 2007, 02:36:38 am
that's looking awesome stwelin, maybe if he wasn't half smiling though, would have liked it better if he just had a mouth continued like the right side.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Stwelin on March 20, 2007, 03:18:58 am
Wot are you using for that, Stwelin?

Crayola coloured pencils! (our school's poor.)

that's looking awesome stwelin, maybe if he wasn't half smiling though, would have liked it better if he just had a mouth continued like the right side.

Well, the grade for the project is based on how accurate it is (we actually took photos with distorted lenses, and then we're copying them. if you look closely you can see the gridlines.) I've already screwed myself over because the colors were supposed to be realistic. ::)  But yes, i agree with you, the smirk is kind of... meh. I've already made a lot of mistakes that cannot be pointed out because of the quality of the image.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Froli on March 20, 2007, 10:10:47 pm
I did this a year ago, just trying if I can make a comic strip.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Lawrence on March 21, 2007, 01:04:45 am
Stwelin, that looks amazing!

From a while ago:
(http://lawrence.lh.googlepages.com/Ampelkopf0.jpg)
Peekaboo Ampelkopf :) (ptoing I'll try to get back to work on the pixel one asap)

(http://lawrence.lh.googlepages.com/tree.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: abzdragon on March 21, 2007, 06:01:32 am
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Crayola coloured pencils! (our school's poor.)
O_o in that pic it looks like watercolor almost to me. Very nice
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on March 21, 2007, 11:20:44 am
prismacolors are nice if you can get ahold of them.

Out of curiousity, are you using the whole box of colors?  A great excercise is to use only the 3 primaries, white, and graphite.  Soooooo much fun :P
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Stwelin on March 21, 2007, 08:04:33 pm
Yeah, i have some prismacolor pencils actually, but we were not told about the project before the day we started, and i didn't want to fall behind, so i just decided to tough it out. Didn't want to harm the consistancy.

Yeah, i am using the entire box of colors, I kind of regret it now, but eh... there is always next time. (half of the projects we've done so far have been in colored pencil.  ::))
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: junkboy on March 21, 2007, 08:27:19 pm
Buccaneer and wench, finding treasure.
(http://i11.tinypic.com/4fts50x.jpg)


Whatever school you're going to, it's doing a good job on making you stretch style-wise.

Ah yes, that'd be Basemen T. Dweller's Academy of Derative Arts. Great school, if you ask me.  :y: Anyway, thanks for the edit! I see now that I misread and misunderstood your first post, hence the confusion. I'll redraw the leg once I go through this months drawings.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on March 22, 2007, 09:17:34 am
More nice-nice stuff from you, junkboy :P

For this latest one though i have two concerns.  Visually, the treasure chest is falling back behind the characters, although it is supposed to be in front of them.  it lacks focus and blends into the background which creates that visual confusion.
the onther concern si that your background might cut off too quickly up in the left corner.  it could probably be a bit thicker.  i think right now you may have wanted to draw attention away from it(?) be making it narrow, but it actually right now is unbalanced which creates tension and discomfort.  could jsut be me but i think if it were a bit more solid it would be less distracting.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Mirre on March 22, 2007, 09:56:15 am
I finished this one yesterday:

(The characters are Vicki Eden (http://blitterbug.deviantart.com/)'s Angle Shooters. They are "the top thieves, con artists, and regular all-round scoundrels in the Kingdoms of the Sun". From top left; Ranger, Avis, Darrell, and Nilessa. Here at the breakfast table.)

(http://bluedelirium.com/gallery/pe/angleshooters.jpg)
I'm trying to learn perspectives and stuff right now. I know it's not my strong side. Tried out two-point perspective here... Looking at it now, I'm afraid that Ranger may be a bit too big for the perspective.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: GOODNIGHTdestroyer on March 22, 2007, 06:31:40 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/jsgo410/fsdfsd.gif)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/jsgo410/backgroundpic.gif)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on March 23, 2007, 05:13:17 pm
seeing the word lycanthropy and a lizard together strikes me as odd somehow :D
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: GOODNIGHTdestroyer on March 23, 2007, 05:15:49 pm
Lycanthropy is just the name of my Art Site, it doesn't actually mean i'm going to draw a bunch of werewolves. Haha.

And I don't know if it is a lizard, it's just a random monster thing. Some people say it resembles a catfish, but i don't see it.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zach on March 23, 2007, 08:07:29 pm
lycanthropy doesn't exactly mean that they have to turn into werewolves do they?

unless that's just DnD where you can be a wererat :0
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on March 23, 2007, 08:11:34 pm
lycanthropy, in terms of etymology is 'lycos - wolf' 'anthropos - man'.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Panda on March 23, 2007, 08:32:38 pm
Yeah, practically it should be only for werewolves, but people misuse it for any human-to-animal transformations.
I think there was some term for the transformations overall, but I can't remember it right now :0

edit: it is Therianthropy >:0
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Stwelin on March 24, 2007, 01:25:54 am
GNDestoyer: The galaxy-looking noise behind the mantis is sort of distracting, but i really like these two illustrations of yours. What is the text in the first one, i am having trouble dechipering...

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b177/stwelin/0323071307.jpg)
Taking forever, wish i was using a different medium, but whatever. I have one hell of a hand cramp from coloring this thing.
Still haven't decided on a background it's either supposed to show movement, or repetition, something to compliment the distortion of the face. Any input, ideas?
(i won't spam any more progress shots, especially with such a crappy quality image that would be my cell phone's camera, But i'll post the finished product.)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on March 24, 2007, 05:24:10 am
Sh**, man, that's Fu**ing great. It reminds me of...some old demoscene pixel art. Seriously, I think this would be good on both a repetitious and scenic BG. But I dunno why, but repetitious seems like it would fit best, IMExtremelyHO. Great work, though, man, man.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: GOODNIGHTdestroyer on March 25, 2007, 05:41:50 am
Stwelin: It says "Oceano"
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on March 25, 2007, 02:39:16 pm
(http://xs113.xs.to/xs113/07120/TreeHouseTest.png)

testing out a coloring style for a project, very rough around the edges still but it gives an idea.  these are jsut test graphics so there shouldnt be a problem with me sharing them :P

stwel - looks nice, though i wouldnt mind seeing the same level of concentration in the face applied to the hair.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Stwelin on March 25, 2007, 03:22:43 pm
That's really cool adarias. It looks like something out of a 'Winnie the Pooh' book. (ah, childhood.)
The tree looks interesting, like it was created by colouring a lot of overlapping circles. The color choices are very interesting. I like it.

also, what do you mean by concentration? the amount of attention i put into it, or the concentration of the colors towards a specific area?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on March 25, 2007, 03:55:05 pm
Really really cool, Adarias.  Nice sunset colors.  I'd like to live there.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on March 25, 2007, 03:59:36 pm
concentration of colors*

the rest of it has beautiful mixing, where the hair is really dominated by a single color
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on March 25, 2007, 04:33:30 pm
Playing a piece I wrote, with my girlfriend on alto sax, in church.  (sorry for the big file size).

http://www.couchpixel.com/Offering.wav
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Stwelin on March 25, 2007, 05:39:26 pm
concentration of colors*

the rest of it has beautiful mixing, where the hair is really dominated by a single color
You can't really tell with the poor image quality, and the lighting the art studio i'm working in, but the dark green parts of the hair are actually blues and purples, but i do understand what you're saying. I was actually thinking of making it more purple or blue towards the 'roots' of the hair, near the middle of the scalp, as a highlight. Thanks for the input.


@Fak: That's really nice, very calming and relaxing. The saxaphone is one of my favourites. Do either of you play other insruments?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: philipptr on March 25, 2007, 08:02:33 pm
wow such great stuff posted here. I especially like junkboys latest pic, I love that shading.
Made some landscape while trying to keep the colorcount very low...
(http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/9159/mountainsr105174191rd0.gif)

didn't came out as good as it could have but well.. it was worth the try, since I've learned some things..
if someone cares, here's a progress animation ;)
(http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8813/mountainanimationgv2.gif)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on March 25, 2007, 08:53:23 pm
Stwelin:  My guffy's main instrument is the baritone saxophone, but she also plays alto.  My main instrument is piano, but I also play drums and a little guitar/bass/anything.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zach on March 26, 2007, 12:57:09 am
adarias: it reminds me of a popup book, and sorta like paper mario.  I'm sure this would be more foliage and such, because that's sorta your thing... right?  but I really like the colors, very tropical and have nice value.  even though the outlines are rough, I think it would be a good idea to still have a nice simple border.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: The B.O.B. on March 26, 2007, 12:58:42 am
Photoshop and I decided to make up. I'm trying to draw a grungy type tooth fairy. It's still early in development, and needs work. I'm wanting to know if I could have some creative input as what to add to this guy to make him more edgey, or dirtier.

(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n118/TheBoBslow/fairy.gif)

Also, if there's any spots that need touching up, I wouldn't mind some some early criticism before I detail it, and it's too late...
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zach on March 26, 2007, 01:08:28 am
oh shit boobies, I love this fearie dude :)

he's raw punk looking without being cliche and cheesy, nice job dude, can't wait to see the wings

I think though he could use a little more volume, mostly around his back and legs
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Generic on March 26, 2007, 01:22:11 am
@philipptr - Wow that looks really awesome man. Only thing I would say to fix would be the outlines on the sun beams. It makes them seem to stick out a bit too much unless that is what you're aiming toward.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on March 26, 2007, 01:26:55 am
i would hit him with a red-brown dust in the shadows, and some spots.  i also would change your light to cold (urine-colored) light.  I also kicked up the red in your shadows to give it that translucent ugliness

heres a very dramatic recoloring:

(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n118/TheBoBslow/fairy.gif)(http://xs113.xs.to/xs113/07131/Quicky2.png)(http://xs113.xs.to/xs113/07131/Quicky.png)

you dont have to be that drastic, im just throwing the ideas out there.

not on the edit - i would put a little more of his chest in shadow, it feels like you bring the light in a little bit high, considering the shape of his arm, and surely it isnt sticking out farther??
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on March 26, 2007, 02:52:10 am
haha, funny concept. I would make his acessories be made from tooth, all of it. Tooth gauge, tooth rings, tooth crown. And his tutu would be made from dental floss, tho that would be hard to show i guess :D
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: GOODNIGHTdestroyer on March 26, 2007, 05:31:49 am
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/jsgo410/grindstructurecopy.gif)

The makings of a new shirt design.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Malor on March 26, 2007, 02:18:50 pm
Stwelin, that portrait is beautiful ;D..and just by the by...I wish I had your hair..In a manly way of course :-[
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: robotriot on March 26, 2007, 10:41:38 pm
I don't think I've posted these here yet, so I'll just go ahead and do it ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pbwgyVzAoA (stop-motion animation)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjUsaBYzAT0 (after effects animation)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwIYweLMpSQ (music clip-thingy using only analog video effects)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on March 26, 2007, 10:46:48 pm
Those are nice! I esp liked the kitchen tetris gag :D
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: GOODNIGHTdestroyer on March 27, 2007, 12:10:35 am
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/jsgo410/grindspider.gif)

Finished.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on March 27, 2007, 12:24:23 am
Riotous Robot: I ditto Ptoing on the tetris kitchen. Real slick.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on March 27, 2007, 02:27:02 am
Mirre, since you put gray values on the piece, why not rubber out a few highlights, manga-comic-tone style? I think it would really bring life to an otherwise 'gray' picture. The head of the dude on the far end of the table could stand being 10% smaller or so. You have a bit of a disposition for large heads.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on March 27, 2007, 03:36:46 am
Mirre, you are deffo improving. Some small pointers on perspective (I am not a perspectivehero either but with more construction it gets easier)

(http://ptoing.net/angleshooters.jpg)

The perspective you have is quite distorted, the people whatsoever are not. Technically they should. And they also don't really follow the general perspective of the picture.
For shoulders, hips, eyes and such which are level to the ground you should be able to draw a perspective line through them which goes to the vanishingpoint or horizon, in this case more or less vanishing point as they are seated around the table which the perspective is constructed around.

Esp. the black girls perspective is rather wonky, we should be able to see more of the top of her head, as I think she is meant to just have here head rotated towards the blond guy and not tilted. ATM it looks like it's tilted to her right. Same goes with her right shoulder, we should see that, unless she is an amputee :P and as her right are is atm it is stuck in the table.

Generally in this pic the black gal and the blond guy should be quite a bit bigger than the other 2, esp the other guy.
Because you have drawn the people as if they are at the same level of distortion and depth the guy in the back becomes an optical giant.

(http://www.coolopticalillusions.com/optical_illusions_pictures_3/images/runningmonster.gif)

Compare his waistline in comparison to the edge of the table with the same ratio of the black girl's waistline to the tableedge on her side. HE IS WIDE LOAD!

Headsize issue as mentioned by Helm, and I am sure you know that yourself. Try constructing a tiny bit more.

Also your ellipses are all rather wonky. Circles in perspective are not easy but follow definate rules of perspective (tho you have to think a bit more to deduct them by yourself)

Nice things to know about ellipses in perspective
http://www.abadjiev.com/konstantin/sheldon/ellipse_lesson.jpg

And something more basic, you seem to be suffering a bit from what he mentions at the very bottom.
http://www.abadjiev.com/~deviation/konstantin/sheldon/cube_lesson.jpg

Keep on keeping on!  :y:
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: digitaldust on March 27, 2007, 12:42:06 pm
Homage.

(http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/92/myojiwannabeaa1.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on March 27, 2007, 03:22:04 pm
nonononononono
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: digitaldust on March 27, 2007, 04:16:35 pm
nonononononono

"Stop drawing this shit", i know. If it makes everybody happy, the next thing i'll post is a bunch of normal, generic and unamazing humans.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on March 27, 2007, 04:19:09 pm
Draw whatever you want. I'm just amazed that there is a process in which a person ends up drawing something like this. It is amazing and horrifying.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on March 27, 2007, 06:37:54 pm
what would be wrong with drawing a small-breasted human gypsy-girl?  the DD furry thing is what throws my stomach into a spin.  Your subject can be unique, exotic and even attractive without the strange animal sex vibe.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: The B.O.B. on March 27, 2007, 07:06:41 pm
There's nothing really wrong with your subject matter, Digitaldust, it's just that most people that frequent these forums aren't into the whole Androgynous animal look. Well, maybe some(Rox), but most of us aren't. Well, I guess I'm being full of myself, taking up the whole forum's opinion, so I'll just say that in my humble opinion, I'm not into that type of art. Plus that's two furries( I think), and seeing as how you are in a place of growth, I'd try breaking out of old habits, and trying new concepts, not necessarily boring, human, anatomy. You seem to have a good grip on dynamic poses, try it on something else...
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Sherman Gill on March 27, 2007, 07:12:36 pm
Well, I'm fine with the whole androgynous animal look (As long as they aren't naked or otherwise have the capacity for mental scarring), it's the combination of that and the fact that they're all the size of whales.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on March 27, 2007, 07:46:18 pm
theres nothing androgynous about it?

mirre - that's a great start, the only thing that i think is really out fo whack is the size of the dude at the head of the table.  all the others seem to be in pretty clear persepective.

one thing i would point out though is that linear perspective begins to break down when you stray too far from the horizon line, like your very acute table edge there.  linear was designed with really one purpose - to simplify the near-straight projections that things near the horizon tend to align with.  the problem is that 3d simply doesnt fit nicely onto 2d. 

I would suggest you either stay away from the higher angles to avoid the oddities that crop up, or try some spherical or cillindrical perspecive techniques.  These might seem tricky at first, but you have a good grasp of the linear or i wouldnt suggest it, and they tend to achieve much more pleasing results when you get off of the horizon.
Title: Re: Official Pixelation OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: The B.O.B. on March 27, 2007, 08:57:35 pm
theres nothing androgynous about it?

Was that questioning a previous statement, or was it meant to be a statement?

   Any who, I kinda' believe them to be. His first piece confused me, as to what type of gender it was, with the whole beefy, furry thing. I could, honest to God, not tell if it was a boy or girl. Maybe I'm just an easily confused boy, who can't tell subtle differences between masculine sexes, or something. My badz...

Buccaneer and wench, finding treasure.
(http://i11.tinypic.com/4fts50x.jpg)

   I love your stuff, man. It's great, and the hatching makes it classy. For some reason, though, his left leg seems kind of short, compared to his right. I get the fact that he is standing on slanted/angled ground, but for some reason, my mind is making it seem as if one leg is shorter than the other. I would suggest bending that leg a bit, or taking some of the harsher shadows away from it. I can't quite put my finger on it....Looks great though....
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on March 28, 2007, 03:29:54 am
Mirre, old comic alert, there's something I want to explain. For everybody else, this is a 3 year old comic, so there's not much point to critique, I know most errors. But shoot if you want.

(http://www.locustleaves.com/city4small.png)

Check panel 3, top row. It's fine to use drastic, almost broken perspective when it achieves something. I wanted a bit of tenseness and confinement in the panel, so I drew it sharp angle. Remember: comics art isn't fine art. It neither tries to represent reality as close as possible (like a biological schema) nor does it to be as clear and formally constructed as possible. And most of all, most important of all all all: comics aren't cinema. Don't think like a cinematographer only. Comic art tells stories, conveys sequential passages of meaning and emotion, they must stand on the holistic level (the page spread or canvas you're using) and on the dualistic level (panel and panel before it and panel after it). They're not cinema shots, in a linear, strict path where time is not implied but directed.

Your picture may be single, but it's clear to me you're working in comics-art-mode, thusly, I wouldn't tell you to *not* use sharp perspective as a rule, just to use it only when you are trying to convey some unrestful emotion. Your scene is ANYTHING but restless, it's the most comfortable and relaxed gathering of friends it could be. Thusly I would suggest a less 'dynamic' angle. Seriously, don't try to convey so much three-dimentional space unless such exposition fits the mood. This is the sort of setup I'd draw in very calm 'european' two-point, not sharp or obstructing.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: .TakaM on March 28, 2007, 03:52:48 am
I brought my popart I was painting at school home a few weeks ago and I took a photo today;
(http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5498/sfvn4.png)
its roughly 2.5m by 1.5m and not finished.
and yup, IP abuse :P but it was a request that Im selling once Ive finished
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Generic on March 28, 2007, 04:31:50 am
Oh that is pretty badass looking Taka. Keep up the good work  :).
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: The B.O.B. on March 28, 2007, 04:56:38 am
Being a Street Fighter whore, myself, I'm instantly attracted to this. My only question is what's with the black necks?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on March 28, 2007, 05:03:39 am
what's with the feline nose?

also BOB, anthropomorphic and androgynous... did you mix them up? My problem isn't animals with human qualities, it's that furry art usually is CARTOON animals with human qualities, specifically genitalia and such. It just has a strongly perverse (not the type of perversion I enjoy) quality to it, sort of like Bugs Bunny getting fucked.

Human-animal beings like centaurs or whatnot I have no problem with.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: The B.O.B. on March 28, 2007, 05:26:32 am
   Heh, no, I know the difference between the two. It's just, when he first posted the big, buff...lady-creature(?), I couldn't tell whether or not it was a male or female. I know that Anthropomorphic is where people create pieces/creatures that contain human qualities. The whole furry thing is just NOT my bag though. If it's his, than that's just fine. Maybe more people here enjoy it more than I expected. I don't really know.(hope that makes sense)
   And yes, I also noticed Ken's nose was a bit jacked, while Ryu's nose is more normal. Also, there is a lock of blond hair that is seemingly magical enough to disappear behind his prominant, japanese featured eyes.  :P ( That always did annoy me, when Anime artists would place sets of eyes and Gigantic eyebrows over hair. I guess it gives a better sense of emotion, when the viewer has more visual access to the eyes or something. I still don't like it though.)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: .TakaM on March 28, 2007, 05:32:51 am
yeah, there are quite a lot of bizarre proportions and anatomy that becomes much more apparent when shrunk down and observed all at once, I will fix things up once I buy some nice acrylics and brushes
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Malor on March 28, 2007, 10:09:32 pm
Eh a 3 minute skecth to get used to my new tablet (wooot!) 1x1 brush used.....shoulda used 3x3 :yell:

(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/601/speedpaintingsw3.png)

I need to work on my signeture.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: digitaldust on March 29, 2007, 02:47:48 am
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what would be wrong with drawing a small-breasted human gypsy-girl?  the DD furry thing is what throws my stomach into a spin.  Your subject can be unique, exotic and even attractive without the strange animal sex vibe.

I feel that drawing humans all the time gets boring, because i feel i already know how to make an ordinary figure look decent enough. The only reason why i draw kemono is because, 1) I want at least a bit more variety in what i draw. 2) 95% of furries tend to lack creativity in making kemono looking at least a bit more decent than just a fox with ponytails wearing gaudy brown leather armor and a 2 foot sword and shield (nothing personal). I wish for them to look like designs made by a protege of someone like Hyung-Tae Kim (IOW "WOW THIS SHIT IS AWESOME WHAT ACID DID YOU TAKE TODAY??"), but since i can't be selfish and constantly rely on japanese furries to come up with that, i took up the opportunity of doing such a thing myself, while i continuously study and observe anything i find useful in reality.

In short words, this is just a hobby for me.

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I'd try breaking out of old habits, and trying new concepts, not necessarily boring, human, anatomy. You seem to have a good grip on dynamic poses, try it on something else...

I already have been. I make concept designs in my free time, regardless of subject theme.

(http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/3029/wereclockle8.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rox on March 29, 2007, 07:41:10 am
Regarding the non-drawing of humans... I find them incredibly boring nowdays. (To draw, not to look at.) I am completely spoiled with the added variety of tails, ears and fur color. Also, there's some nifty symbolism going on whenever my white fox shows up. But I guess I'm the only one who could understand that.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Akira on March 29, 2007, 08:37:12 am
if you find drawing humans boring you can't be doing it right :-X
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on March 29, 2007, 11:55:59 am
if you find drawing humans boring you can't be doing it right :-X

haha, word. Lifedrawing is superawesome.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Mirre on March 29, 2007, 01:53:52 pm
Thanks for the great help ptoing, Helm, Adarias. You have definitely given me some good duidelines and ideas for the next time I try out different perspectives. I've never taken classes for drawing (except for the obligatory art classes in school), so I've mostly just tried (or not tried) to draw perspective ...from my head, or using references. That's why I could really use some help and regular practise. Though, I was in a rush to finish the piece I posted, or I would have asked for c&c on it before I inked it. But I'll keep all your comments in mind for the next thing I draw! :-*

ptoing: You posted some really helpful guidelines and links there. I can obviously see now where I've done errors (it's so easy to get blind for errors when you work on a piece). Bookmarked the links for future reference too.

Helm: Great input there about comic storytelling and the use of dramatic perspective. I'll keep it in mind. I'm about to try and learn to draw comics, so I could really need some help with that. It is nice to see some of your older works too :)

Thanks again, guys!
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: miascugh on March 29, 2007, 02:35:29 pm
(http://miascugh.ptoing.net/cg/robodo.jpg)
A relaxation piece, something just for fun. The design is silly, I know.

I find it irksome that I'm always way more productive with things that I don't HAVE to do.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on March 29, 2007, 03:15:28 pm
I like it.

I find it irksome that I'm always way more productive with things that I don't HAVE to do.

I am the same and I think many people are really :D
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: AdamAtomic on March 29, 2007, 03:44:53 pm
I like it.

I find it irksome that I'm always way more productive with things that I don't HAVE to do.

I am the same and I think many people are really :D

Ditto...and on top of that, the busier I am with a real, mandatory project the more ideas I have for other, unpaid, probably less useful projects.  I think it has something to do with your active, front, mechanical brain being occupied, leaving your raving, lunatic subconscious free to really explore.  Unfortunately, when your subconscious DOES find something, it usually sits there and pesters your front, awake brain until you start paying attention to it.  Then your deadlines start to slide...
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: The B.O.B. on March 29, 2007, 03:54:31 pm
   Heh, I thought I was the only one whose procrastination led to a giant increase in uneeded, artistic creativity. Every time I had a 4-5 page essay to write, I'd just sit at my work station and start doodling. Then the doodling led to drawing. Then the drawing led to detailing. Then, I'd finally decided to clean up my room. "Hmm, for some reason, I really feel like playing basketball today, despite the fact that I suck so bad at it...(calls friends)" After my educational hiatus, I finally realize that I have less than 30% of the given time frame to finish my report/essay.
   I'm a lazy, last minute bastardo, what can I say...

@Miascugh: That's great! It's arms remind me of the cartoon character on Adult Swim "Big-O." Or at least that's what first came to mind, when viewing the speed paint. It's ASSome.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: digitaldust on March 29, 2007, 03:55:58 pm
if you find drawing humans boring you can't be doing it right :-X

If i "do it right" in your perspective with a routine that's supposed to make me feel satisfied and happy, that would backfire horribly and make me hate this hobby already because i gave in to peer pressure. From what i see, "do it right" is more suitable for learning routines. Surely i can't be that fussy as to what i want to learn... I thought i moved on from that phase.


...


Speaking of which, I need to draw more.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on March 29, 2007, 05:04:04 pm
Well I guess the question here is, WHY do you draw and WHERE do you wanna go with it? Do you do it as a hobby and just that or do you want to work professionally. If the former, fine. If the latter, proper foundation and basics would be a good thing to solidify.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: digitaldust on March 29, 2007, 05:15:06 pm
Well I guess the question here is, WHY do you draw and WHERE do you wanna go with it? Do you do it as a hobby and just that or do you want to work professionally. If the former, fine. If the latter, proper foundation and basics would be a good thing to solidify.

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WHY

Hobby.

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WHERE

Mostly just for fun. The rest is in fate's hands.

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HOBBY OR PROFESSION

Hobby, already answered.

If i wast to make an income out of it, i'd go for a street gallery.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Stwelin on March 29, 2007, 07:48:52 pm
Well I guess the question here is, WHY do you draw and WHERE do you wanna go with it? Do you do it as a hobby and just that or do you want to work professionally. If the former, fine. If the latter, proper foundation and basics would be a good thing to solidify.

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WHY

Hobby.

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WHERE

Mostly just for fun. The rest is in fate's hands.

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HOBBY OR PROFESSION

Hobby, already answered.

If i wast to make an income out of it, i'd go for a street gallery.


If it's of any meaning, I like your drawings. I may not prefer the subject matter, but they are interesting to look at. i've heard it put this way before: "you have to know the rules before you can break them." If you have a grasp on anatomy, why not? Not hurting anybody, really. Aren't we all furries at heart? (... well, no, but...)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Gil on March 29, 2007, 10:11:19 pm
What I'm wondering is why you are posting these here. I haven't seen a single piece of pixel art from you. I guess I'd like to see some pixeled pieces before you start posting stuff in the creativity thread. But, that's just me perhaps...
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Fry on March 29, 2007, 10:22:32 pm
Thought i'd share some of my non-pixel work.  Most of this is fairly older stuff i did with my tablet.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/west_nile/skullage.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/west_nile/Grimkeep.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/west_nile/chained-1.jpg)

I need to buy a scanner.

-Fry
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Sherman Gill on March 30, 2007, 12:56:47 am
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b139/InaneAndMatu/img069.gif)
Comic done entirely in ink :D!

I'm not sure I like the 4th and 5th panel. 4th one is screwed up pretty badly because I made it too dark when it's supposed to be the person from the third panel, and 5th panel's readability sucks.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on March 30, 2007, 02:08:34 am
cool stuff sherm,

inspired me to post a few of my own modest experiements with ink - realised i never really got feedback on them.  done a few months ago and i was really interested in pursuing the style but exams/applications popped up...

(http://xs313.xs.to/xs313/07135/Inks.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Sherman Gill on March 30, 2007, 03:48:53 am
Ooo, I like.
But what's up with the light grey layered ontop of the blackish brown?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Akira on March 30, 2007, 06:20:08 am
if you find drawing humans boring you can't be doing it right :-X
If i "do it right" in your perspective with a routine that's supposed to make me feel satisfied and happy, that would backfire horribly and make me hate this hobby already because i gave in to peer pressure. From what i see, "do it right" is more suitable for learning routines. Surely i can't be that fussy as to what i want to learn... I thought i moved on from that phase.
nah i didn't mean do it right as in you must have been drawing them incorrectly. anyway. its not really important. do watchu wanna as long as you're happy with what you're doing.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Opacus on March 30, 2007, 08:07:33 am
nonononononono

"Stop drawing this shit", i know. If it makes everybody happy, the next thing i'll post is a bunch of normal, generic and unamazing humans.
Eh? Amazing? A fat bird girl thingy? Doesn't seem very amazing to me to be honest....
Of course they can be amazing, but a guy that can use lightning to defeat enemies is amazing, a guy that can turn in to fire is amazing, and not generic, not that fat bird thing.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: digitaldust on March 30, 2007, 09:33:10 am
Of course they can be amazing, but a guy that can use lightning to defeat enemies is amazing, a guy that can turn in to fire is amazing, and not generic, not that fat bird thing.

That's if you see them doing it in reality, and not in fiction.

Did you even look at her face properly? Or were you put off by her appearance that you just looked at her for 3 seconds?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rerg1 on March 30, 2007, 03:37:43 pm
Sorry but,
Don't most people like furries have a sexual attraction to animals?
I read it on Wiki.
But it is probaly some guy messing it up.

But, I think you should draw something "real" and not a human dog.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: The B.O.B. on March 30, 2007, 04:07:15 pm
Uhm. No, Rerg1. I think you're confusing the sexual fetish "furries" where people actually dress up as furry animals and, ahem, fornicate. Weird, but shockingly true.

   What Digitaldust is doing, is actually not out of the ordinary at all. In fact, that's what turns me off about it. It's been done a billion times(cough*deviantart*cough). In my personal opinion, I think his art is fairly good. The only problem is his subject matter. It's just not for me, as I respect the older dedicated practice of learning from LIFE, and not fiction. I'd rather life studies came first, then fiction second. Of course, as been said before, it can most definitely work the other way around, but I feel learning from life is one of the biggest rewards art can give to learners of the form. I hope you don't think we're attacking you, Digitaldust. That's not it at all. I just feel that the large "anthro" creatures that you've submitted thus far, aren't the norm at this specific web site. There have been a couple as wips, but not too many. If that's your bag, then have at it, Hoss. It's your art, and no one can decide what you want to draw. Just saying that it probably won't be received too well, or that often here.

Again, this is just my personal opinion, and it does not reflect any other of the forum's opinion...
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: digitaldust on March 30, 2007, 05:07:21 pm
No, you're right. I should've been prepared for all the glaring whenever i pull of this kind of stunt i've known for years.

To tell you the truth, i'm irate at myself for having to cause self-humiliation with my more reactionary replies. I wasn't supposed to even react like this, as i've done in other places, but apparently i just blew years of effort in creating willpower in minutes.

This is my fault. I should just take responsibility, get the fuck over it, and decide what i should do next.  !yus!









... And yes, i know already how indispensable observations from reality is. In fact, that's where i get most of my ideas. Maybe i can't rack up $300 for a 3 week short course in 60 seconds and not a permanent course since i was kicked out and blacklisted from every school before the end of my 10th grade, but i can make up for all that by going outside and look at the world with my distorted eyes.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: .TakaM on March 31, 2007, 06:51:30 am
some indie devs are asking for mockups of what people want to see on the DS, so I made two mockups for a *game* I'd name ClouDS (love those puns)
(http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/6789/m1un6.png) (http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9690/m2ui6.png)
pretty simple to understand, and not much to it, but its what I want :P
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Sherman Gill on March 31, 2007, 08:04:43 am
some indie devs are asking for mockups of what people want to see on the DS, so I made two mockups for a *game* I'd name ClouDS (love those puns)
(http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/6789/m1un6.png) (http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9690/m2ui6.png)
pretty simple to understand, and not much to it, but its what I want :P
Oh! Oh! I totally want to know where I could submit one. I really want to see a Zelda style game where you almost always use projectiles, and aim with the stylus. Zelda shoot 'em up game. I guess.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: .TakaM on March 31, 2007, 08:13:15 am
http://deadketchup.kyuran.be/2007/03/23/ketchup-mock-up-spring-compo-2007/  ;)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Lackey on March 31, 2007, 06:43:23 pm
I'd try that!  Is the seagull the cursor?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on March 31, 2007, 06:56:37 pm
I'd assume the white dot is the cursor?

The clouds in the distance should slowly drift to the left so eventually they'll be on that screen.
And why does the water on the active screen have an extra horizon...?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Stwelin on March 31, 2007, 07:09:47 pm
Takam: very interesting. Although, yeah, it does look like more of a toy than a game. (oi, nintendogs, how you bore me.)
I want a DS. :\

I've been trying really hard to churn out a unique game here for the past month or so, but i always run into some small snag in the gameplay that unravels the whole idea. I want to make something experimental, instead of just the same ol same ol. Been playing a lot of older games to possibly inspire me enough to make an abstract remake. Arakdghdgkkjhgh.

Stwelin, that portrait is beautiful ;D..and just by the by...I wish I had your hair..In a manly way of course :-[
You can have it, if you want, i'm cutting it off soon. :|
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on March 31, 2007, 07:30:03 pm
Stwelin, that portrait is beautiful ;D..and just by the by...I wish I had your hair..In a manly way of course :-[
You can have it, if you want, i'm cutting it off soon. :|

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/zolthorg/haircut.png)


...Clairvoyance?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Stwelin on March 31, 2007, 07:34:31 pm
It's because i am starting work again soon. (plus, it's becoming an afro.)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Lackey on April 01, 2007, 10:05:34 pm
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I'd assume the white dot is the cursor?
The position of the cursor on the bottom screen seems to roughly correspond with the viewpoint of the bird on the top.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: GOODNIGHTdestroyer on April 03, 2007, 09:21:29 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/jsgo410/thacopy.gif)

:D
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Omenith on April 03, 2007, 11:46:24 pm
Badass... eh, why isn't this in the "Pixel Art" section?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on April 03, 2007, 11:56:38 pm
because its not pixel art?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on April 04, 2007, 12:07:58 am
Oh, wow, it took me way too long to figure out that TakaM's mockup wasn't a DS on its side. Those are 2 separate screens, aren't they? Jeez, I'm dumb.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Omenith on April 04, 2007, 12:22:07 am
so confused... how is it not pixel art? is it something with the process? in photoshop i'm getting it as 15 colors indexed. I mean granted its pretty large and tedious looking but I've seen cleaner reduced vector graphics and this isn't it...

ps. refering to GOODNIGHTdestroyers post
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on April 04, 2007, 12:55:47 am
You can look at it and tell it wasn't pixeled.
Stray whites on the hand, the omnipresent, fuzzy AA, plus, those pen strokes are something I'd like to see replicated in pixel art.

(No really, I would. Anyone got any pixeled pics where the person made penstrokes that looked like that?)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on April 04, 2007, 01:01:35 am
theres some portraits from some fighter game( so helpful, i know) that does a pretty good job of comic style hatching.

edit:  here we go
http://www.gsarchives.net/index2.php?category=all&system=arcade&game=street_fighter_alpha_3&type=sprites&level0=non-animated&level1=akuma
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on April 04, 2007, 01:20:54 am
Cool thanks

*begins to study them*
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on April 04, 2007, 01:44:03 am
Everything Capcom does is based off of hand-drawings, so it wouldnt suprise me if some of their stuff was coloreduced and then retouched on the pixel scale.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Omenith on April 04, 2007, 02:00:57 am
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Everything Capcom does is based off of hand-drawings, so it wouldnt suprise me if some of their stuff was coloreduced and then retouched on the pixel scale.

That's what I was getting at.. but I shouldn't be playing with fire. I will thank Xion for pointing out why its not pixel art and continue on. :P
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: NikkiPink on April 04, 2007, 04:56:41 am
I just wanted to make a shout out to GOODNIGHTdestroyer for that Human Abstract piece... I love those guys. They almost rock as hard as that artwork does.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: GOODNIGHTdestroyer on April 04, 2007, 06:04:20 am
Thanks guys. It's just a color reduced GIF. Nothing special about it haha.

And the human abstract are very very talented, indeed.

Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on April 04, 2007, 02:56:45 pm
\o/

(http://www.ptoing.net/telemachinus4.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: The B.O.B. on April 04, 2007, 03:13:01 pm
Hah, ha! You got Helm's butt chin and prominent brow to the tee. Great job...
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Gil on April 04, 2007, 05:03:48 pm
Too awesome for words :D

Reminds me of that shading technique Helm uses with the polygons and stuff...
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Fry on April 04, 2007, 05:08:59 pm
Haha, that's absolutely awesome Ptoing.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: .TakaM on April 04, 2007, 06:14:15 pm
very cool ptoing. sorta like a low poly painting.. I should try something like that one day.

well, I just made (and by made, I mean put together) a speed run clip of super metroid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4IiybLqTJk
be warned, I doubt anyone here would like the song
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Gil on April 05, 2007, 02:56:34 am
You're right! I really don't like that song...
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on April 05, 2007, 09:40:59 am
Way to ruin the atmosphere.  :y:
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: .TakaM on April 05, 2007, 09:55:36 am
1. no way Im gonna record the speed run's sound, take way too long to save as an avi, and editing it would also take ages
2. psh opinions
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on April 05, 2007, 10:00:14 am
There is plenty of ambient atmospherical music. Even something like breakbeat would be far more suited, but rap? The fuck? Really.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: .TakaM on April 05, 2007, 10:05:08 am
no matter what music I could pick, someone still won't like it, someone might even search youtube for that song and wonder what the fuck he's watching.

like how I edited the clip so it doesn't play in its proper sequence, some could argue that ruins the atmosphere, better I just worry about catering to my own tastes
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: robotriot on April 05, 2007, 10:15:24 am
I don't know, the track is not that bad really. No need to diss :D

Nice painting there, ptoing! Reminds me of this one http://robotriot.hokuten.net/trash/prowler_-_forest_dragon.png
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: el zilcho on April 05, 2007, 11:29:09 am
ptoing that's awesome!, it's so clean!

this is a self portrait i did two days ago. i know the chin's not right but i couldn't seem to fix it. oh yeah, and i look really smooth. i just didn't have time to add the roughness.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/Treborguy/compare.png)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on April 05, 2007, 11:57:56 am
Hehe, it looks so clean because the original is quite a bit bigger.

(http://ptoing.net/telemachinus_detail.jpg)

Some tips for you zilcho.

- Do not paint on white on computers
- try to use more hardedge brushes
- read this : http://itchstudios.com/psg/art_tut.htm
- keep at it :)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: el zilcho on April 05, 2007, 12:23:54 pm
thanks alot!, that tut looks really helpful. i think i'll browse through it for a while now.

yeah ive always wanted to use hard brushes but i never seem to get the technique right.

do you use circular or calligraphic brushed when you paint, because i've been trying to copy the technique of a 2d cg artist called svetlin velinov, do you know of him?
anyway, he makes these amazing speed sketches, and i can't figure out how he makes his sharp-edged, curved brush strokes.

here is his cg portfolio:

http://velinov.cgsociety.org/gallery/419086/
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on April 05, 2007, 12:37:42 pm
I used mainly 2 brushes for this (as well as for most of my other photoshop stuff)

Both are custom brushes I made myself.
One is a dirtbrush, which I used for the background, and the actual painting was done with a squarebrush. I find that square brushes give nicer texture than round ones. At least the way I work. I found that it is best to experiment and find a workflow you are comfortable with and get into photoshop, before even trying to copy other people. Once you know the program better you will be able to look at paintings and in many cases just go like "Oh, I see what he did there"
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Sohashu on April 05, 2007, 01:38:54 pm
Alright.  I just am I teeny bit suspicious of el zilcho.  I lined up the photo and the painting and they are practically the same.  I would just like to see other works or maybe a progress animation or picture from you working on it.  Sorry if i am going about this the wrong way. 
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: el zilcho on April 05, 2007, 01:51:28 pm
no problem, this was after about 3 hours. then i went back to it the next day and saw it was all wrong, so i did a major liquify, dragging things around job in photoshop.

i hope you believe me, i did spend like 7 hours on this in the end. if you dont then, what can i say? i must be better than i thought  :)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/Treborguy/photoshop2.jpg)

heres some other stuff i did recently:

2 pencil portraits of my friends:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/Treborguy/djbj.png
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/Treborguy/codypencil3.png

and plain randomness from inside my head:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/Treborguy/bogey-1.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/Treborguy/cactuscat-2.jpg
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Sohashu on April 05, 2007, 01:59:58 pm
OK thanks.  I was just checking.  Just out of Curiosity, what are you using?  As in a mouse or a tablet?  and what kind?  Because I was thinking of getting in to painting on the old compy, and im looking around for a good thing to go with.

Anyway, excellent work on the painting. 
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: el zilcho on April 05, 2007, 02:09:28 pm
I'm using a new tablet, it's a wacom like my old one.

on the back it says 'model: CTF-420'. It's really good, it's usb so it plugs straight in and works. It has a bit of friction between the pen and the tablet to give more control over your strokes, and it makes it feel like you're actually drawing on paper, unlike my old pen which slid around all over the place.

having said that, it's not very big at all, but luckily you can just zoom in on photoshop and work on small bits of your picture on a large scale. so im not bothered by the size.

here you go. 28 quids  :y:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wacom-Volito-Tablet-Windows-only/dp/B0009H7XAY/ref=sr_1_1/026-8772649-2884405?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1175782102&sr=8-1

Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on April 05, 2007, 07:50:43 pm
(http://www.locustleaves.com/chroma2.gif)

I was going to go all pixel art on this, but I found it was getting worse when I tried to add more detail to it, so let's leave it at that. The palette is funny, but a few redundant shades
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: eck on April 05, 2007, 10:59:23 pm
helm, you mind if i define that a bit?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: HMC on April 06, 2007, 01:28:10 am
Painting I did in my painting class. Not that satisfied with it, but I figure that most of the people who see it will appreciate it for the joke, and I really shouldn't waste any more time on it, so I decided to chalk it up to experience and just declare it finished:

(http://dylangallagher.googlepages.com/weezingbydylan.jpg)

I won't pretend to know really anything about guitars or what they should look like; I just sort of drew it from memory when I sketched everything out. Also, I realize that Scyther would have been a way better choice than Squirtle in just about every way, and I realize that I anthropomorphized Parasect way more poorly than I could have, and I know that the background is retardedly over-saturated.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: The B.O.B. on April 06, 2007, 03:08:16 am
   I'd say this is about 60-70% done. I decided to go a little more with P"toe"'s idea, with more emphasis on the "tooth" concept. Any other suggestions, or better yet crits?

(@Adarias: I'm more willing to mess with filter settings once I got the character completely detailed. Afterwards, I may consider several options  with filters, or even some type of special effect. And yes, the back ground won't stay the same...)
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n118/TheBoBslow/fairy-1.gif)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on April 06, 2007, 11:13:26 am
helm, you mind if i define that a bit?

What do you mean? I don't want any edits on it, sorry. If you have some critique, sure.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: eck on April 06, 2007, 01:48:59 pm
since you said you werent going to finish it, i was asking if i could work on it a it.  but thats fine.

critique:

-the highlights on his lips need to more similar of a tone, as they are a bit hard to make out as they are. 
-there needs to be more of a higlight along the bridge of his nose and along his forhead.  his eyes need those white dot things that make em look real.
-his nose needs to be curved in slightly twards the middle
- he needs another nostril.  i think i can see where you tried to put it, but it needs to be a bit more visible, because his face looks a bit uneven to me.
- his lips are off center, and need to be moved to (our) right a bit.
-there needs to be another transition color (the violet color) on (his) right cheek

hmm

-if the words are in english or using english charicters, it isnt very legible.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on April 06, 2007, 03:46:40 pm
I didn't say I wasn't going to finish it, I said I wasn't going to pixel it. It's finished, it's just not pixel art.

Thank you for your critique, though I disagree a lot with most of what you say this needs. The text is in greek.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rerg1 on April 06, 2007, 04:08:47 pm
Yeah, I actually would have to partually disagree to eck's critique.
But I think how you put the colours in the piece is stunning!

But I dont understand the 3 slashes by the guys jaw. O well.

Nice piece  :y:
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Evil-Ville on April 06, 2007, 04:40:11 pm
I'd say the slashes are fingers.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Gil on April 06, 2007, 04:57:20 pm
It's not a face, it's a mask, right Helm?

I removed it, sorry...
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on April 06, 2007, 05:17:09 pm
It's a mask yeah. And what, you couldn't resist editing and posting a piece of artwork when specifically asked not to?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: el zilcho on April 06, 2007, 05:40:25 pm
people, it seems a lot like helm is pretty happy with this the way it is. and critiques are quite pointless because he doesn't plan on changing it.

and though that makes posting it on a forum pretty pointless, i guess it's just a waste when you've worked on a piece of art, and no-one gets to see it. not that he's just posted it here looking for compliments.

my point is. you dont just fiddle with finished artwork in a gallery. so you shouldn't here either.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: The B.O.B. on April 06, 2007, 06:04:32 pm
I didn't say I wasn't going to finish it, I said I wasn't going to pixel it. It's finished, it's just not pixel art.
   
   Those sentences just confused the hell out of me. Uhm, would the first sentence imply that you ARE going to finish it? The latter statement contradicts your first sentence: "It's finished, it's just not pixel art." What? The first sentence basically read as "I did NOT say I was NOT GOING to finish it, I said I was NOT going to pixel it." the "nots" kind of cancel each other out, I guess. I can see how someone may have gotten confused by your meaning. Although I think I know what you were trying to say. I thought that if you weren't going to finish it, it would be best written as " I said I wasn't going to finish it, nor pixel it. I like it as is."
   On the subject of disrespecting one's wishesl, at least he did it in this forum where you could see it. And I'm sure he didn't mean to offend you, Helm. But I guess Gil should have respected Helm's wishes, as it is his property. Oh well, no harm done, right?
   I like the colored mask, but I'm having a hard time trying to figure out how the real face looks like. I can barely make out the eye (if I'm seeing correctly...) Hopefully there is a finished product in the future, so I can tell what exactly it is, or what's going on in the background.
   Oh, HMC, that's great! What type of medium did you use? It kind of reminds of Ptoing's digital style. One of these days, when I'm not so poor in the money bags region, I'm going to give traditional art a shot, again. I still draw/sketch every now and again, but it's nothing to shout about. Really, some of the stuff here is so Inspiring...
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: HMC on April 06, 2007, 06:18:41 pm
Thanks, dude. Also, I just used acrylic paint on a 14x18 canvas board.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: mirage on April 06, 2007, 06:45:19 pm
Care to explain what the greek text says/means, Helm?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on April 06, 2007, 07:27:20 pm
Not particularily, sorry. I'm not going to cry over Gil editing it or anything, just was kinda odd when I asked there not to be any of that. People post a lot of stuff in the OT that is not looking for crits or edits, generally there's some showcasing as far as I can tell. And I don't mind critique about anything, even stuff I consider 'finished'. Just not edits on this one.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: zeid on April 06, 2007, 08:10:11 pm
Well i like the piece, though i didn't when i first viewed it for some reason. I think this may have been balance issues due to the colour drawing sight purely to one corner of the image and the amount of white space elsewhere, this inherently isn't a bad thing rather it is interesting but not initially aesthetically pleasing. I could read the most of the piece, however felt that the 'real' face was perhaps a little too obscured as i find it hard to read even now, I understand that it is meant to be shaded due to it's unsightliness but perhaps eluding a bit more of it. One small other concern i had on it was the colour on the 'real' face as it appears almost as though it is for that face as oppose to attaching it to the mask as i assume you are trying to depict. This which may detract slightly from the meaning of the image, of course this might just be my interpretation of what the underlining message of the piece is.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: mirage on April 06, 2007, 08:59:08 pm
Not particularily, sorry. I'm not going to cry over Gil editing it or anything, just was kinda odd when I asked there not to be any of that. People post a lot of stuff in the OT that is not looking for crits or edits, generally there's some showcasing as far as I can tell. And I don't mind critique about anything, even stuff I consider 'finished'. Just not edits on this one.

I'm not sure if you understood what i was asking for... you went on about the editing and whatnot, which was not what i was asking

The text in your picture is greek, but it's so messed up it's hard to tell what it says... if it's a personal thing then i will back off and apologise for even asking
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on April 06, 2007, 09:53:12 pm
Mirage, only the 'not particularily, sorry' was in reply to you, the rest was about the issue in general. My bad for not making the two bits of text separate.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on April 07, 2007, 01:18:54 am
helm - cool idea with the colors, but it gets hard to make much when you only have 3-4 visually distinct values.  out of curiousity, what is different about the finished version, besides media?

(http://xs414.xs.to/xs414/07146/DSC01629.jpg)

its a long way to go, only about a hour and a half into the painting (minus some time at the start and end of the studio session for setup/cleanup) with 3-5 hours mroe to go and i cant really continue until i draw the lion in properly.....but ryu keeps asking where the piece is going so i figured id make this one my post.  Right now its all blocking, refining will come later.

PS i hate my camera.  lousy compression......
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on April 07, 2007, 05:18:27 am
woo! turning out awesome man.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on April 07, 2007, 08:49:34 am
Quote
helm - cool idea with the colors, but it gets hard to make much when you only have 3-4 visually distinct values.  out of curiousity, what is different about the finished version, besides media?

This is the finished version. It's not pixel art because there's no attention paid to every pixel. I don't understand how what I originally said was vague enough to cause all this construsion, but here we go again: I started making this intending to go all pixel art on it. When I arrived at the state posted above, I saw that adding more stuff, detail, dithering, refining the lineart, whatever, seemed to take away rather than add to it, in my eyes. That is usually a good point to stop working on a piece of artwork. Therefore I called it finished and posted it in the OT-Creativity thread.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Checkworth on April 08, 2007, 12:17:46 am
*holds breath*
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on April 08, 2007, 06:45:44 pm
(http://xs414.xs.to/xs414/07140/Elan.png)
Conceptart in all it's overlit simplified glory.  Aside from that though i think i actually got passable proportions on an unplanned piece, so im happy about that.

happy easter all
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Stwelin on April 08, 2007, 06:53:50 pm
I like how the armour mixes some medieval-esque plating with a more formal, almost british looking, coat uniform. The head seems big to me for some reason. Either that or his shoulders are too narrow. It's really cool though.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zach on April 08, 2007, 08:02:19 pm
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/DRACULA.jpg)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/naruto.jpg)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/jdflas.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on April 08, 2007, 11:02:00 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/Xionight/handinhand.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/Xionight/whaat2.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/Xionight/twiztid.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on April 09, 2007, 03:11:46 am
I like how the armour mixes some medieval-esque plating with a more formal, almost british looking, coat uniform.

Yeah, that's kinda the look i was going for.  Hes going to be a character in Partisan, an emissary from Imperial Ganymede who might join your entourage if the king deems you worthy.  Ganymede is a germanobritish nation that mixes wealth and pomp with excessive militarism and imperialism.  My goal was to create a uniform that reflected not only the culture, but the circumstances.  The armor is slightly functional, though not really..  Ganymede is often at odds with the franco-celtic Potagic Isles where the game takes place, uniting only when greco-persian Circeny and white-african Dalaby threaten them.  The other nation mentioned in the story is the slavic Szabier, which is Ganymede's only real rival as a land power.  Hopefully, through the course of the game, we can create cultures which are deep and believeable enough so that the character can really get a sense of where each character comes from.  It's easy to make a backstory, harder though to work it into the plot without diverting attention from the main story.




Zach - i like your drawings, particularly the last page, i only wish i could make at least heads (if not tails) of the first one.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Stwelin on April 09, 2007, 03:25:34 am
It's easy to make a backstory, harder though to work it into the plot without diverting attention from the main story.

Quite. Final Fantasy Tactics kind of lost my attention when it goes through the scenes that are just a bunch of text explaining the background of the entire war and so on, however, they did a good job of incorperating enough of it into the actual game dialog to keep it from seeming like watching a fictional documentary on the history channel.

The medieval RPG cliche is something that can often be left really shallowed out by game developers. I like a little meat in the background so the plot actually has some meaning. Your's sounds really interesting.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on April 10, 2007, 01:09:52 am
(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3163/bumblyie7.gif)

today's adventure - trying to animate a goofy gorilla-like robot loping through what would be most likely snad or jungle.  very basic sketch so far but more sucessful that i expected.

the bopping right leg/dragging left leg is based on my own walk patterns, so if appears uneven in that one sense, it's meant to.

firefox appears to hate my framerates, that's odd
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zach on April 10, 2007, 01:13:42 am
adarias- it's just randomness, I'm trying to fill up my sketchbook pages more, but also trying to get a sense of composition, somewhat...
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: GOODNIGHTdestroyer on April 10, 2007, 03:57:20 am
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o199/lycanthropyart/eyesfuckyou.gif)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: GOODNIGHTdestroyer on April 11, 2007, 01:49:33 am
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o199/lycanthropyart/new.gif)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: GOODNIGHTdestroyer on April 12, 2007, 08:29:33 pm
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o199/lycanthropyart/polarisdesign.gif)

(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o199/lycanthropyart/yeahhh.gif)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: eck on April 12, 2007, 11:44:43 pm
(http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/7619/04120719291mn5.jpg)

ptoing-  you continuously inspire me to try new things, and to push pixelart limitations to the extreme.

some shitty crayola pastells on my brothers sketchbook.  scanned with a 'razor' phone.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: The B.O.B. on April 13, 2007, 02:03:57 am
@eck: heh, pretty cool. Actually, it's always cool seeing a rendition of another pixel artist's style. In my opinion, at least...

And some more tooth fairy...It's coming along, as I've got some crits at conceptart.org. I'm nearing the end with this guy, but am still not done; I plan on detailing the wings a lot more, maybe even tweak the lighting, and completely redo his crown ( since he is a tooth fairy, I was thinking why not make his crown completely made of different specie's teeth. I decided to give him some jail house pants, and a worn down version of some old Converse sneaker....any other suggestions?

(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n118/TheBoBslow/fairy-2.gif)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Stwelin on April 13, 2007, 02:41:40 am
I think making the tutu a little more lace-y would give it a nice contrast to the more smudgey-smeary appearance of the guy. get some sharp, thin lines going on to add detail. Maybe make just a little lattice pattern around the waist and such. it's lookin' pretty good. and by good i mean funny.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on April 13, 2007, 02:18:58 pm
wings and pants dont work for me at all atm, they break style and palette

everything else is looking good though
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on April 13, 2007, 06:20:20 pm
No me gusta the wings. At all.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on April 13, 2007, 06:56:55 pm
wings and pants dont work for me at all atm, they break style and palette

everything else is looking good though
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on April 13, 2007, 07:01:07 pm
eck: Cool. Nice to hear that I inspire you.

TI-83 demo by sdw and me :B
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lar57_1pVKw
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: The B.O.B. on April 13, 2007, 09:34:38 pm
Damn...That was Nerdtastic. I wish mine were programmed to some groovy animations like that one, during my Calc days...Too bad it was stolen along with my truck...bastardos..
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: AdamAtomic on April 13, 2007, 09:39:16 pm
eck: Cool. Nice to hear that I inspire you.

TI-83 demo by sdw and me :B
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lar57_1pVKw

where'd you get your twisty sprite from though?  ^-^
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: fil_razorback on April 13, 2007, 09:59:25 pm
Awesome Ptoing !
I didn't know there was a TI-83 demoscene and it's cooooool :D
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Sharm on April 13, 2007, 10:29:24 pm
That's impressive!  I used to pixel on my 85 back in highschool (math class was dull).  I did some cute little dragons, but nothing that awesome, and definitely not animated.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rox on April 13, 2007, 11:38:16 pm
That's wicked, Ptoing! I am beyond impressed.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on April 14, 2007, 12:38:35 pm
Give kudos to Sdw, he is the coder behind this thing. Adam: the twister here was made by sdw :P
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on April 14, 2007, 03:19:54 pm
I don't even want to know what went into coding that twisty rectangular prism thing. Jeez.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: AdamAtomic on April 14, 2007, 06:11:43 pm
Give kudos to Sdw, he is the coder behind this thing. Adam: the twister here was made by sdw :P

aww yeah i forgot mine was for the C64 thing...nm  :-[
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: miascugh on April 16, 2007, 02:03:41 pm
ptoing: really cool, but how much exactly did you even do? :P


50 minutes of referenced nonsense
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ian on April 18, 2007, 01:44:23 am
First real attempt at a digital painting (portrait of the band, Rush):
(http://www.soggyrocks.com/art/rushfinal.jpg)
Reference (http://www.soggyrocks.com/art/rushref.jpg)
I improved a bunch as I went (http://soggyrocks.com/art/rushpreview.jpg) (I did each person from left to right, and then came back to redo the left person's head).  There are still a lot of problems though.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zach on April 18, 2007, 05:05:35 am
needs more contrasting values my friend, shed some light on them =D
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on April 19, 2007, 02:31:34 am
today's art -
(http://xs414.xs.to/xs414/07164/Sticky1.png)

Character concepts done on a 5cm x 5cm sticky note, so the quality is interesting if i put it nicely.  I wanted to make an update to partisan but my computer hates me today.  animations arent working and neither is my screencapture :(.  if anyone is interested, stop by the thread or our blog on friday :)

Ian - youre guys are pretty flat right now.  lets get some more intermediate value regions in there to carve out other planes.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: SplatPixel on April 20, 2007, 10:53:22 am
homework for my character design class...

(http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1033/splathwjc8.jpg)

(http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1921/splathw2dh9.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: alkaline on April 20, 2007, 10:56:06 am
in some places anatomy is a little off...like in the second image all of their right arms are longer than the left arms. or it's that the left arms are too short. some of your legs in the first one are kind of short compared to the torso too =)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Gil on April 20, 2007, 12:24:13 pm
Dammit Splat, that really impresses me. You other work I've seen is pretty cool, but this beats all.

What do you do in school?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on April 21, 2007, 12:58:57 pm
First one, row 5, column 4.  I like it a lot.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: eck on April 21, 2007, 09:43:00 pm
dunno, im kinda leaning twards the huge dude in the thrid row.

splat:  do you mind if i (or anyone else for that matter) uses your stillhouses and makes sprites out of em?  (credit will be given, ect ect..)  i understand that these are for school nd whatever but that huge guy is really tempting me  :-[
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: SplatPixel on April 21, 2007, 11:22:28 pm
Gil - thanks man.

Faktablad - guy with things coming out of his back? heh, i don't really like any of em...

eck - i don't mind, its just hw. i'm not gonna do anything else with these, so feel free.

thanks guys
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Gil on April 21, 2007, 11:57:06 pm
Hmm, eck is right, they would look cool sprited, I might do one myself...
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on April 22, 2007, 06:33:10 am
Yo splat, those is the shizz. I think I'll take on one too, if you don't mind muchly.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: eck on April 22, 2007, 09:31:46 pm
ok.  project splatpixel is a go! i shall begin immediatly.  art shall be coming to a thread neer you in the pixelart section nearly
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Sohashu on April 23, 2007, 03:46:05 am
I'm going for the first picture, first column, 3rd row. 
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on April 23, 2007, 04:34:30 am
I lay claim to the last character in the first image. He will move.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Sherman Gill on April 23, 2007, 05:14:01 am
I claim B3 of the first image :)!
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: fil_razorback on April 23, 2007, 05:54:29 am
A3 for me :D (first column, third row. Is it 3A ?)
E5 for me =)
Anyone else can take it tough, I'm never sure wether I finish my pieces or not ^^
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Sherman Gill on April 23, 2007, 06:02:14 am
Yar, I think I had mine backwards, so it would be 3B, and yours would be 3A.
Alas, I am not certain.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Sohashu on April 23, 2007, 08:56:36 am
Fil, I already claimed 3A.  But I'll go 4A if you want. 
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: fil_razorback on April 23, 2007, 09:09:54 am
Sorry, I'll take E5 instead. I edited my previous post so no confusion is made.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Panda on April 23, 2007, 09:20:26 am
Enough.
It's not like you have to reserve them, nor that we care about which one you decide to color.
Just pick one and do it on your own, and if anything post the results.
More posts like that and I'll start cleaning this thread.
You have been warned.  :mean:
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Mixel on April 23, 2007, 10:28:46 am
Splat.. Those are lovely! Did you answer anywhere what course you're doing?

I really like the silhouettes.. I'd never thought of that as a way of beginning to develop character ideas.. Thinking about it though, it must be quite a good way.. they have a lot of punch in silhouette.. Interesting!

I might pixel one (probably badly) too! Yay!

I also love Adarias' concept art style, and Zach's sketches - this whole thread is v inspiring!
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: SplatPixel on April 23, 2007, 09:54:57 pm
heh, whoa... didn't think anyone would like these.   i don't.

Xion - thanks man, hope to see it.

lol, you guys are funny... you don't have to fight over em, do wutever you want.

thanks for all the comments guys
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Gil on April 23, 2007, 10:06:10 pm
This reminds me of those kids fights:

"I wanna be the yellow ranger! No, you have to be the blue ranger! But he sucks! Can I be Goku? Goku isn't even in that show! Shut up! Shut up yourself! I wanna be a dinosaur!"

 :blind: :blind:
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on April 23, 2007, 10:45:17 pm
yeah well im a knight with a pet dragon, and a flaming sword.
* so as to not be warned ill edit this post soon with some art : D*
(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5051/alienfz0.jpg)
random alien-ish head. watercolor and ink.
(http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/9194/untitledmu5.png)
some guy. watercolor and ink.
sorry, my scanner kinda sucks balls.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: eck on April 23, 2007, 10:48:17 pm
heh, whoa... didn't think anyone would like these.   i don't.

Xion - thanks man, hope to see it.

lol, you guys are funny... you don't have to fight over em, do wutever you want.

thanks for all the comments guys

does this mean we get more art?? (almost finished the first one btw)

ok, ima get a photobucket account, and ima host all my sketches (got a semi-decent scanner yesterday) and ima post em here.  so prepare to be blinded by their hidiousness (XD)

edit:  for best viewing, flip your monitor upside down

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0021.jpg (http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0021.jpg)
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0022.jpg (http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0022.jpg)
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0019.jpg (http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0019.jpg)
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0018.jpg (http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0018.jpg)
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0017.jpg (http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0017.jpg)
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0016.jpg (http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0016.jpg)
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0015.jpg (http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0015.jpg)
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0014.jpg (http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0014.jpg)
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0012.jpg (http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0012.jpg)
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0013.jpg (http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0013.jpg)
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0011.jpg (http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0011.jpg)
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0006.jpg (http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0006.jpg)
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0007.jpg (http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0007.jpg)
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0008.jpg (http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0008.jpg)
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0010.jpg (http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0010.jpg)
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0009.jpg (http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0009.jpg)
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0020.jpg (http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0020.jpg)
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0023.jpg (http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG_0023.jpg)
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG.jpg (http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/breakpointparty/IMG.jpg)

before i get 50 million resonces about how a few (when i say a few, i mean really, only 4 or 5 of my little doodles) drawings arent original, i know, and i am aknowledging that, so please, no flaming.  the best way to improve is to mimic those who know what they are doing (in my oppinion, anyway)

i know my anatomy sucks, and as you can see, i am starting to get the hang of it, but i still have a long way to go.  got a new notebook and its filling up with anatomy practice, so if any of you want to see that, post.

I have converted your image links to URLs.  There is no good reason to post 17 large sketchbook
scans when half the pages are blank, and ALL the pages are upside down.   -Adam

edit:  thanks.  sory for any inconvienence.  as i stated, i still have no idea how to get em right side up XD
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: alkaline on April 24, 2007, 02:58:33 am
splat - thanks for the reply

you can make fun of what I said if you want, it's alright with me if I'm wrong  ::)


ryu - that first one =  luvvvv those colors. I'd like to see more of that from you <3 <3 :0'
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: AdamAtomic on April 24, 2007, 03:35:16 am
dude seriously, rotate your pictures before you post them.  Especially if you post 20 of them.  What are we supposed to do with 20 upside down sketchbook pages?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Sherman Gill on April 24, 2007, 04:37:38 am
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b139/InaneAndMatu/PunkrockdinocomicS.jpg)
Yay for ink and watered down gouache!
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: eck on April 24, 2007, 10:44:15 am
ry-  holy shit, those are awasome =O

*muuuuusst leeeeern*

sherman-  i love it =P  very creative and funny. 

adam:  i tried to flip them, but im new to macs, so i kinda had no idea how. everytime i fipped them and saved them, i refreshed the page and they were all back upside down =(
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on April 24, 2007, 09:49:40 pm
I think if you flip them in Preview, it doesn't work, but if you flip them in iPhoto and maybe export them, it'll work.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: CrematedPumpkin on April 25, 2007, 01:22:10 am
I'm on a laptop, I just flipped the screen  :P
Decent drawings, heh...
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on April 25, 2007, 09:15:35 pm
can't see them, please solve obvious issues before filling so much space with those.  some of us still run 56kbps

(http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/6095/shiplp1.jpg)

The Longinus (upgraded mechanist ship for partisan)

series of propellers behind the sails keep the ship typically jsut above the water with the rudder dipping in, though in high seas it will jump from crest to crest

it is much smaller than the typical ships, only capable of carying it's crew and your party members and maybe a few others, but it's speed means you are allowed to avoid battles while  sailing it.

its tiny stature and reliance on constant restocking (to power the engines) means that it is not an oceangoing vessel and can only take you around the Potagic isles, not across the sea and away to other nations

slightly chunky scan (500dpi)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: AdamAtomic on April 25, 2007, 10:20:12 pm
i really like that design adarias - is that going to be pixeled?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on April 26, 2007, 12:11:00 am
i really like that design adarias - is that going to be pixeled?

thanks :P

sorta.  it's going to be a feature of some of the in-game environments.  I also want to talk to Fil about the possibility of cut scenes that throw about static images using scrolling and scaling.......  i don't have the time for full-on animation.  to keep with the rest of the game, those *may* end up pixelled, but they may also end up drawn.  and that's only if we get to them.....

EDIT - i shouldnt derail this topic, but here is the pixel base for a Carrack, one of the medium ships you'll find yourself taking in the game

(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/5008/carrackjx7.jpg)

the ship that i drew is approx. 60 feet long, a measly 15 tiles for all that detail  :blind: so twill be a bit difficult i should thing to cram that all in there if i don't pure pixel the whole thing without tiles (or most of it)

Believe it or not, that is 100ft in the game - almost 150% the size of the Nina or the Pinta! (they of course were the smaller caravels.  the carrack santa maria weighed in at 115 ft, dwarfing mine by quite a bit - not to mention the several additional decks - mine has only 2 decks and a cabin)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: AdamAtomic on April 26, 2007, 03:11:24 am
ZOMG - did you just post a JPEG'd piece of PIXEL ART!?!?!

BANNED

just kidding :P  looks like imageshack didn't like whatever format you uploaded though!  Interesting to see your template at this stage too!
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: SplatPixel on April 26, 2007, 12:46:01 pm
damn good work there Adarias, looks great so far.

more HW...
(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5363/hwbm2.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Gil on April 26, 2007, 01:43:02 pm
I should pay you to do my concept art Splat, it looks really great. If you ever feel like working on a project (like this one (http://art.game-designer.org/pixelart/rpg/)) as a concept artist, PM me.

Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on April 26, 2007, 10:09:15 pm
looks like the mass of his arms decrease in the profile and back views, splat.
other than that, ace.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on April 26, 2007, 10:25:06 pm
You should perhaps study the whereabouts of a knee in a stylistic but realistic represenation of a human being.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Snippa on April 26, 2007, 11:03:55 pm
I should pay you to do my concept art Splat, it looks really great. If you ever feel like working on a project (like this one (http://art.game-designer.org/pixelart/rpg/)) as a concept artist, PM me.


Have you used those sprites in anything Gil? Or just made em for fun?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: SplatPixel on April 26, 2007, 11:18:25 pm
Gil - cool stuff, but i'm still a lazy noob tho

Ryumaru - heh yeah, thats what his arms look like before i added armor.

Helm - whoa, ur right. that is pretty messed up lookin, thanks man

Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on April 26, 2007, 11:21:16 pm
oh, thought it was just like clothing.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Snippa on April 26, 2007, 11:33:55 pm
Splat: Was half tempted to build your character in Blender.
The problems that Ryumaru & Helm brought up are partially why I didn't though... aside from just pure laziness.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: flaber on April 26, 2007, 11:50:00 pm
sure,
i suppose i may aswell post something again
its just.. i never know if i want to make them into pixel or not - and then its like spoiling the surprise. heh.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/flaber/Linearts/wingsquig.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/flaber/Linearts/nifftydrgg.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: SplatPixel on April 27, 2007, 05:53:24 am
lot of hw for this class... keeps me drawing tho  :ouch:
weapons still need work.

(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1176/splatheadwp4.jpg)
(http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/681/finishedarmorta8.jpg)

really cool designs flaber, look good for tattoos
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: flaber on April 27, 2007, 06:33:51 am
few others.
these were deeply inspired by quark.
this second set of wings (originally i made them first) i like the wing area better - much more detailed, but the bottom section ended up looking kinda ugly so i made the other version.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/flaber/extra%20stuffs/squigwings.jpg)

this was just random ness though. ended up putting it on the tongue of my shoes. perhaps ill take some pictures of them and post those later.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/flaber/extra%20stuffs/squig.jpg)

Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on April 27, 2007, 12:29:51 pm
lot of hw for this class... keeps me drawing tho  :ouch:
weapons still need work.

the knees still need work too.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: huZba on April 29, 2007, 05:30:14 pm
some sketching between gaming sessions. Maybe someday i can push myself to properly finish something  :hehe:
The bigger mechs and the nasty clown are from just a few minutes ago.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/huzba/sketchyness.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Presley on April 29, 2007, 06:53:22 pm
Was bored between classed and drew this in about five minutes.

Using crappy Crayola wannabes. :D

(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/8281/handdp1.png)

The signature was just a one time thing, usually it's a bit more subtle, and graceful. I was just feeling like that. @_@
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: alkaline on April 29, 2007, 06:55:17 pm
woah....6 fingers.

oh and get a scanner =)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Presley on April 29, 2007, 07:03:15 pm
Yup all six :D

Also, scanner doesn't work with crayon. LIGHT+WAX=SHINEY
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on April 30, 2007, 12:30:55 am
(http://Also, scanner doesn't work with crayon. LIGHT+WAX=SHINEY)

lol...get a good scanner
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: AdamAtomic on April 30, 2007, 11:47:22 pm
really fun sketches huzba, lets see some more!
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: huZba on May 02, 2007, 07:11:21 pm
thanks adam  :)

here's another take on the clown guy. Photoshop crashed midway, but i managed to save most of it with a screenshot, shaving off only the chin part.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/huzba/smailusmailu1.jpg)

-edit

oh man, bad clown, now he's got the gangstaaahs after him.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/huzba/gangstaahs1.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on May 02, 2007, 11:42:43 pm
(http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6935/alienky6.png)

(full size) http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/1368/renderts7.jpg
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on May 03, 2007, 12:23:54 am
They're nice, but man, draw something else. No offense.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on May 03, 2007, 01:37:53 am
how do you know that i dont have pages upon pages of drawings of things much different?
i only showed it because its the first drawing im almost satisfied with the rendering in a long time.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Stwelin on May 03, 2007, 03:23:52 am
post everythinngggggg!!!!  >:D
Anyway, i really like your watercoloring of the bird... man... creature. a little ways back up there, very cool, and it sort of deviates from your norm (at least what you show here.)

Draw what you like, but don't neglect what surrounds you! every object is another learning opportunity.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on May 03, 2007, 06:53:05 am
I do not know what else you're drawing. I only know what you post on this forum.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on May 03, 2007, 11:46:07 am
"They're nice, but man, draw   POST something else. No offense."

really, we're all eager to see the other stuff you do.  you know how cool i think those other drawings are
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: sharprm on May 03, 2007, 12:24:24 pm
Ryumaru - very cool, reminds me of HR Giger.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: zeid on May 03, 2007, 04:57:59 pm
Whats this called again... speed painting style or something. Anyways paint shop pro work, theres faults i can see in it but i can't be bothered working on them now, please feel free to pick apart with critique ;) I haven't got a tablet hence my disgusting initials instead of a real signature.
(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/8345/faceeyewn4.png)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on May 03, 2007, 06:18:22 pm
while it's a good start, it lacks 2 important things.  there is no texture, and there is no depth (sense of planes).  He feels like a decal on my computer screen :(
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: zeid on May 03, 2007, 07:10:49 pm
better sense of depth?
(http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/3919/faceeyesz5.png)

I'm not sure what to do as far as texturing goes... where do you mean on it, and in what sense.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on May 03, 2007, 11:26:19 pm
Zeid: Too soft. Needs some hard edges. Looks like he could just melt away.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ep on May 04, 2007, 05:28:40 am
To be fair Xion he already looks like he is melting away, although in a more incorporeal form rather then liquid
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on May 04, 2007, 07:43:16 pm
ugh yall are killing me. next time i have access to a scanner ill post some drawings that arent 3 headed aliens or demons or... whatever else yall think is all that i draw.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on May 05, 2007, 05:23:27 pm
New song, very silly.

http://media.putfile.com/The-Song-I-Will-Not-Finish (http://media.putfile.com/The-Song-I-Will-Not-Finish)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: HMC on May 05, 2007, 08:19:13 pm
Some doodles I did in Paint:

(http://dylangallagher.googlepages.com/heisgoingtofuckyouintheass.gif)
(http://dylangallagher.googlepages.com/anothershadowyface.gif)
(http://dylangallagher.googlepages.com/dudewithguitarorg.gif)
(http://dylangallagher.googlepages.com/dudewithguitar.png)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Turbo on May 06, 2007, 01:36:14 pm
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f291/TurboLento/Ilustra/warmup_blackdude.jpg)
Quick warmup sketch thing in Photoshop (5.0 :crazy:), must've taken me half and hour or so. I need more practice!

Hey Ryumary, what size is that (pencil 3 headed monster thang) and how do you do the small highlights?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on May 06, 2007, 03:19:12 pm
hmm, well the sketch paper is 8.5x11 i think the image is probably somewhere in the confines of 5x5 inches. maybe a bit more.
small highlights were done with kneaded eraser, the most minute strongest ones were done with a hard plastic eraser.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on May 06, 2007, 06:11:12 pm
hmm, well the sketch paper is 8.5x11 i think the image is probably somewhere in the confines of 5x5 inches. maybe a bit more.
small highlights were done with kneaded eraser, the most minute strongest ones were done with a hard plastic eraser.

"but why would you ever need to use an eraser like that?" :P :P :P
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Turbo on May 06, 2007, 09:01:41 pm
Oh ok thanks Ryumaru, i'm gonna go start looking for some such erasers now.
Also, sorry for mispelling your name, finger slip :)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on May 07, 2007, 12:05:57 am
adarias: haha i know, i just realized how much i like the addative and subtractive methods in my work.
turbo: hah, dont worry about it.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rox on May 07, 2007, 12:07:30 pm
But Ryumary looks so cute.


So, I hit a temporary standstill in our current school project. And it was sunday, so I figured I should try to make something completely unrelated. And so I did. Not finished yet, I hope to get it all shiny and textured and normal mapped when I have the time.


(http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9656/profileva8.jpg)
(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/4121/shot1ri1.jpg)



I also kinda hope I can get the reloading mechanism animated. I've got it all worked out, in an unnecessarily primitive fashion. I really like unnecessarily primitive. A while ago at school, I made a sketch of a pistol driven primarily by gears. And as far as I know, it'd be functional. Pointlessly crude, but I love it.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Locrian on May 07, 2007, 04:14:41 pm
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c41/Burtzum/modlins.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rox on May 08, 2007, 07:46:56 am
Oh snap, I've been counter-polygon'd!

That looks great. Any plans on texturing her?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Locrian on May 08, 2007, 03:18:38 pm
yeah.  Still getting a feel for rigging and uv mapping.  But I want to try to go as far as I can with her (3rd base at least) before begining a new character.  Then I guess I'll have to look into zbrush and normal mapping and blah blah.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rox on May 08, 2007, 05:18:40 pm
Eh, you don't HAVE to bother with the normal maps. Sure, it's all high-tech and awesome details and saves polygons, but really... Plain diffuse + specular maps can still look great. And it takes less time!


[edit] Actually, I'm just trying to get you to texture it as soon as possible... [/edit]
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: SplatPixel on May 09, 2007, 03:08:00 pm
great character there Locrian. adding texture is not fun tho... heh

hw for my texturing class

(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/4107/statuewipkf3.jpg) (http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1896/davidstatueft8.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on May 09, 2007, 05:07:23 pm
oh nice going! This is the first piece I've seen by you with good anatomy.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: SplatPixel on May 10, 2007, 03:42:53 am
heh, thanks man

heres a small update, i really don't feel like looking at this damn thing anymore....
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Gil on May 10, 2007, 03:45:58 am
Nice one Splat. So, what kind of education do you follow, and how are you ranked within your class?

(I'm guessing you study game design? I'm thinking about doing that after I finish my informatics bachelor)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Conzeit on May 10, 2007, 09:29:38 am
I'm guessing graphic design/concept art.....would a game design student reaaaally get so many drawing assignments?

you're doing well my friend, kinda reminds me of all my wasted time C_c gotta do somethin 'bout my life ! O_O
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Gil on May 10, 2007, 06:46:26 pm
Game design here in Belgium is basically only art and drawing and no programming at all...
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zach on May 15, 2007, 02:11:49 am
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/img11111111111.png)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/img126.png)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/img123.png)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/img119.png)


Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: junkboy on May 16, 2007, 12:42:18 am
(http://i11.tinypic.com/4zcs28l.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zach on May 16, 2007, 03:03:48 am
hey man great textures and perspective, princess looks a little stiff but still man... great shit.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on May 16, 2007, 05:20:14 am
Holy awesome, Junk!
That should be like, at Iam8bit or something.

And Zach, awesome as always.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: slambamamy on May 17, 2007, 12:44:12 am
This is all pre-February. lot's of it is old. I overdosed, had seizures, 'n was in a coma for 10 days. I've lost my fine-motor skills but they're slowly coming back. I haven't been able to draw but i've been writing down ideas so when im good enough ill have all this crap to draw and upload.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/6158/andyof7.jpg

It would look better if i had done it in pencil first. The eyeglasses are all stupid. Its of my friend.

(http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/7160/unicornac4.jpg)

I did this on acid. It looked cooler then. I don't do that stuff anymore.

(http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/7993/ducksketchzs4.jpg)

the feet are REALLY screwed up. bah. oh well I think I may have saw the idea somewhere or something like it. I don't remember. I probably just saw it in my head XD

http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/5348/eyeholeoh6.jpg

i did this on acid too. I think I may have saw the idea somewhere or something like it.

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/2163/moozachc2.jpg

I don't like this but im posting it anyway  :D  i was gonna color it all the way and got lazy

yeah  :D

edit: I couldn't find the "edit" button and then I saw "modify". You really are an intellectual group  ;)  durr... im just oblivious
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: SolidIdea on May 17, 2007, 10:15:52 pm
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/821/animeb6.gif (http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/821/animeb6.gif)

My first ZBrush effort :)

And a render from the model, I need to learn how to do textures.

(http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/2716/dragon1kr3.png)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rerg1 on May 22, 2007, 03:22:34 pm
(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/7052/soviet2sy4.png)

Doodles.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Doppleganger on May 23, 2007, 06:42:07 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/Timpac/ArtDemo20.png)

Mockup for some gangster shooter game. The characters are rather temporary and the building is not even a whole building. I was going for a comic noir type of look but it turned into something a little different. It's vector art if ya didn't know. :P

Also. Junkboy, that's really sweet.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: im9today on May 24, 2007, 03:23:55 am
Not sure if this is the place to post this, but I have hi-res scans of the Odin Sphere (http://www.atlus.com/odinsphere/) art book if anyone wants it. :) It's going to be a beautiful game, reminds me of SD3 a lot.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: AdamAtomic on May 24, 2007, 04:57:14 am
sweet sassy molassy yes!  find me on IM and get your send on :)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Gil on May 24, 2007, 06:37:34 am
Ditto please :)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: huZba on May 24, 2007, 07:04:42 am
Omfg, been searching for an Odin sphere artbook for a while. Gimmi!
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rox on May 24, 2007, 09:59:34 pm
I was just doodling a bunch in an attempt to keep my pen skills from rotting away. And I ended up sketching up this guy, and I figured I should touch him up a bit and post it somewhere. So I did. And I am. Mind you this is still a very quick job, though.


(http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/1466/1180041352roxelbaaksn4.jpg)


Everything looks better as a kuvrahk.
Awesome species invented by Casey Young (http://www.altermeta.net)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Gil on May 25, 2007, 03:45:46 am
Holy androginous furry Batman!
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rox on May 25, 2007, 07:42:15 am
Hey, blame Casey! She's responsible!
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: AdamAtomic on May 25, 2007, 04:07:05 pm
the anatomy and lines, even for a bat-wing-eared-cow-person, seems real odd to me.  The right deltoid is so developed that it actually extends above the slope of the trapezius, yet the left one is smooth and level.  the line that is defining the mouthless muzzle type thing doesn't appear to be symmetrical, it stays higher on its left side than its right.  your little hash marks for the throat and collar bones, and the hard line for the neck muscles all appear to be thrown in without much effort or care as to actual location.  the eyes are cheaply realized, and the hair hints at an amorphous, oddly shaped skull.  the interior of the ears lacks detail completely, where any would be welcome.  And dodging the hips, hands and feet is a pretty cheap copout!  Bad hands are better than no hands.  Also it seems like its left ear should be visible at this angle.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rox on May 25, 2007, 07:35:25 pm
Oh, sheesh. You know, I made sure to note it was a quickie so someone wouldn't have to waste time writing something like that... I'm well aware of everything that could be considered wrong with it. But it's just a quick job, and obviously still very rough. It was just some random practice, trying to get the species to look recognizable, and one of the sketches I made turned out okay enough for me to consider uploading, so I did!

In all honesty, I don't know what a trapezius is. (Well, I do now, but only after looking it up.) The line on the muzzle and throat wouldn't even be necessary in a colorless picture since the type of creature has two or more colors, the one on the front often contrasting nicely to the rest of the body, and the lines that would outline the inner color were really just thrown in to make it more recognizable as a kuvrahk. The stuff that seems thrown in without much effort is just that. It looked empty so I drew some lines, checked my reference and agreed that Casey had drawn it in a similar way, so I kept it. The eyes look like they do in the comic the creature derives from, and is also consistent with how I've drawn eyes the past five years or so. The hair... took a few minutes to do. Once I did it, I realized it gave the impression of a deformed head, but I didn't bother remaking it since it doesn't matter.

Dodging the lower body simply happened because I originally just tried to make the head recognizable, but ended up throwing in a body too. I ran out of virtual canvas space at the hip, so I cut it off there and made a fadey thing to make it less harsh.

Heh, I feel like I'm trying to defend myself. I'm not. I just kinda wish people wouldn't expect anatomical perfection from a piece that I've already described as a touched up version of a rouch, quick sketch.


And regarding some of the anatomical comments, refer to the link I gave to Casey's site for references. It's a webcomic with a very nice simplistic style that I really like, so of course I kept in touch with that when drawing my own character of that same species. I bet I could do more detailed stuff if I needed to, but I don't want to. I much prefer looking at more simplistic styles, as I've already said.

[edit] Though, thanks for commenting... I do appreciate that. [/edit]
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: AdamAtomic on May 25, 2007, 08:05:01 pm
Well you threw it out there so I went to town on it  :blind:  sorry if i took it too seriously!  However, after checking out Casey's work, I think you have some work to do on just mimicking his forms.  His creature's snout is shorter and pointer, less bovine, and they appear to be much stockier through the body.  It's natural to want to defend your drawing, and if it's just for fun that's cool, but I've always been of the notion if you put it out there then you shouldn't be TOO surprised if someone responds to the work :)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rox on May 26, 2007, 12:10:48 am
Heh, it's alright. Well, yeah, but her (yes, her) style has changed quite a bit also. I'm mostly going by the older comics from some number of years back. She wasn't really consistent with herself in the comic, and went through great shortcuts now and then to just make it simpler to make, and simpler to read. I picked some of that up.

I am actually surprised to get such an in-depth comment in the off-topic creativity thread! That's, like, the first time that's happened to me.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on May 27, 2007, 01:05:06 am
Gorillah!
And thus begins my horse stint.
References are for losers. Human eyes are for horses. Ribcages aren't reserved for starving children. Horses' legs have just enough mass to keep them from breaking under the body's weight. Every equine beast must lift its front-left leg.
References are still for losers. And thus ends my horse stint.
But demon goats are still in.
Ignore the scowling creature at the bottom. It is suck.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faceless on May 27, 2007, 04:57:48 pm
You seem to know what's wrong with your sketches. References help losers draw more accurately. ;p
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on May 27, 2007, 05:07:37 pm
I love the way you wrote "unicorn".
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: huZba on May 29, 2007, 06:57:40 pm
Spamming some sketches

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/huzba/faces_001.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Opacus on May 29, 2007, 08:31:09 pm
Awsome stuff Huzzzza.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: LoTekK on May 29, 2007, 09:24:20 pm
huZba, niiice sketches. Love the variety on display.
Zach, love those sketchbook pages.

Did myself up a speedpaint yesterday, my first proper paint after a couple weeks of nothing but 3D and texturing:

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i196/LoTekK/unicorn3.jpg)

Timelapse, for anyone interested (http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i196/LoTekK/unicorn-steps-1.gif)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on May 29, 2007, 09:40:43 pm
(http://www.locustleaves.com/vavelsmall2.png)

Have you seen the Yellow Sign?


Image for my entry in this years' Babel Comics Festival (http://www.babelfestival.gr/) book of featured artists. The actual comic will be finished in the next couple of days and probably posted here if you want. Protip: never do iso work in non-pixels. Extremely tedious.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Gil on May 29, 2007, 11:08:04 pm
I've wanted to see some comics from you for a while now Helm, we'd be delighted to see some.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on May 29, 2007, 11:58:54 pm
i second gils statement.
and 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th it.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on May 30, 2007, 12:14:20 am
I've only seen a few, through ptoing's coloring work.  would be interesting to see more.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on May 30, 2007, 02:07:06 am
OC session par le acornlique et le moi

(http://www.ptoing.net/oc/scott_me_oc1.jpg)

WPE file for whoever cares
http://www.ptoing.net/oc/scott_me_oc1.wpe (http://www.ptoing.net/oc/scott_me_oc1.wpe)

LOL, I forgot the I in prehistoric. durr  :crazy:
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on May 30, 2007, 10:19:37 pm
Here's the recent comic, then. The topic of the Festival is 'Urban Myths'. I didn't like it, but I think I came up with worthwhile stuff.

(http://www.locustleaves.com/vavelmockup_small.png)

http://www.locustleaves.com/vavelmockup.png

Click above for bigger, but look at the smaller one so you can get the holistic effect. This is four a4 pages, made to be seamless (more or less) at the edges. A few errors there are because of the scanning. In real life it tiles better.

And here is the translation of the texts, starting on the western page, then the eastern page, then the north page and finally the south one.

West:

"In front of a hotel there lived and died, unable to grasp the irony, a homeless man who had long forgotten his name.

 Surrounded by alleycats while he was alive, they still linger there between the alley and the street, they scratch at the recently-repainted wall for unknown reasons.

Every few years, one of them dies there and the hotel employees find her from the smell.

The building bears deeper scars than a coat of paint can ever hope to cover. A riddling message in latin has been sealed by six lost lives.

The seventh will be the last."

East:

"In a hotel room a young man moves a simplistic painting by Theofillos (greek folk painter) and writes behind it on the wall, nervously, guilt-ridden, the truth. The words are many, he is forced to deposit ten years of his life in a hidden rectangle.

Nobody would ever understand. He returns every few years to this rom, lies down on the bed never looking behind the blue-eyed angel who keeps - does he still? - discreetly, his secret. Only he feels like amputees feel their phantom limbs, thin air. A weight rests at the edge of his bed.

her



The angel loves him because he suffers, but

Does he remember anything anymore?"

North:

"In the rooftop of a hotel there lies a briefcase, expertly hidden between the airconditioning vents.

Inside it there are documents whom the owner could not entrust to anyone. He hopes to return to them when the time is right.

The rain and moisture creep through the ever-so-thin seams of the briefcase, they melt methodically the paper, depositing the hopes of a human being in the cement and piping that surrounds passing strangers."

South:

"In the basement of a hotel there twists and turns a black heart wrapped in leaves of the locust tree, buried three palms down. Like the mishappen birth who turns its gray head and pleads, in its breath tall cypresses

an apology

an apology

an apology

it pleads you to listen to it one more time."



That's it.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: junkboy on June 01, 2007, 06:55:23 am
Man, that is some delicious rendering. I like it a lot. Maybe I would've liked to see a few more areas where you've omitted the lines, like you did with the wall-panel above the bed, but overall it's great. Got any CTS symptoms yet?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on June 01, 2007, 07:22:56 am
Thanks. This was all mode with a 0.1 pigment marker and a big nice brush for effects and black areas. I consider the pigment marker a real trooper to have pulled through, and have retired it with honors, taped to the wall. It will not have to ink again.

Do you meen you feel the rendered spaces overwhelm the whitespace? I am very careful with my black - implied midtone - white ratios in comics, balance is a big deal, so I panic a bit if I'm told I overdid something. Panel above the bed? Could you be more specific.

It's not like I can fix anything though, since this was drawn on yellow paper and I'm handing in originals so there can be no fixing of anything in a substractive way.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on June 01, 2007, 07:23:23 pm
what possesed you to do isometrics for this, helm?
really fucking awesome btw.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on June 02, 2007, 02:16:22 am
I wanted the edges of the pages to tile, and isometric was a natural choice.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on June 02, 2007, 11:26:51 am
yeah, i had that question too before realizing that regular perspective would have been hell to align properly for the views you were trying to show.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Terley on June 02, 2007, 02:49:39 pm
Am I on the right tracks?

(http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/6997/netig3.jpg)

It's done in Illustrator so it's all Vector, except for the artwork.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Feron on June 02, 2007, 02:59:33 pm
its good, but the retina-burning red makes the white text quite hard to read.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: huZba on June 02, 2007, 03:48:33 pm
Nice Helm. A lot of detail but still very easy to look at. I've seen some comic strips or drawings with half the detail and still going out of control and somewhat hard to read.

Heh, funny terley. You could box in the smaller texts to make them less blinding.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on June 02, 2007, 06:41:18 pm
Thank you. I take pride in the more sublime aspects of structuring a comic that are not really apparent to most readers (at least consciously), and therefore in the absence of anime boobs and robot ninjas I am underappreciated.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Terley on June 02, 2007, 09:57:43 pm
Of course its gonna be hard to read, its resized for posting.. I've mimic'ed Spar's current design style, It wouldn't be true to Spar if I changed the palette.

the red doesn't look so blinding printed out.

EDIT- Or do you think I should leave the logo's the usual red and tone down the bulk of the box to a slightly darker red? may look better on your eyes.

thanks for your comments btw.

Helm, lookin great as usual
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Feron on June 02, 2007, 11:11:01 pm
well it would certainly catch my eye on a shelf.  Printed up its probably nice, just as an atwork itself, i would tone it down.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: junkboy on June 03, 2007, 08:54:15 am
Do you meen you feel the rendered spaces overwhelm the whitespace? I am very careful with my black - implied midtone - white ratios in comics, balance is a big deal, so I panic a bit if I'm told I overdid something. Panel above the bed? Could you be more specific.
No, the balance is fine in my opinion. Then again, I'm absolutley clueless when it comes to composition, so don't take my word for it.
What I was refering to was these areas:
(http://i18.tinypic.com/638grdd.png)

An amateur would probably have drawn those lines, but you omitted them because it emphazies the brightness. It's a nice touch!
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on June 03, 2007, 09:13:26 am
ah you mean the negative-space outlines. Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of doing ink-work for comics as if you're doing charcoal-life-study, but a few discreet tricks can be applied.

Looking at this helps. Drawn from a movie still, but look at Moebius' technique.

(http://www.locustleaves.com/duke.png)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: junkboy on June 03, 2007, 09:46:10 am
Yeah, Moebius is a genius. I have a vast collection of old Heavy Metal magazines that I use as craphouse litterature and I'm always amazed by how he can make all those tiny busy strokes work so well.
Looking at that picture made me wonder if he uses white ink..
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on June 03, 2007, 10:10:49 am
It's extremely clear that the above piece is made in an additive way, not substractive. So no white ink. Generally he uses highlights mostly in color work (or comic-tone). His inkwork is additive and very controlled.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on June 03, 2007, 05:55:56 pm
How did he get those tiny white dots?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Feron on June 03, 2007, 06:03:25 pm
inking in everything around them i guess...
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on June 03, 2007, 06:22:29 pm
How did he get those tiny white dots?

cross-hatching in various overlapping degrees
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Gil on June 03, 2007, 06:44:42 pm
Indeed, cross hatching gets you those white dots. The technique is comparable to pattern dithering as we use it in pixel art...
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: junkboy on June 04, 2007, 03:52:57 pm
It's extremely clear that the above piece is made in an additive way, not substractive.

Oh absolutley. What made me wonder about white ink was the brighter spots on his right (our left) shirtsleeve. They kinda have that chunky look, as if they've been applied afterwards, but looking again it's clear he left white areas there and then simple added small black dots and short strokes. </captainobvious>
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on June 04, 2007, 04:45:14 pm
Also noteworthy is that most of the stuff he did/does in his Moebius mindframe is not penciled beforehand at all.

Unlike in the Lt. Blueberry comics where he worked under his real name, Jean Giraud and uses a more classic American comic style, very masterful too, those were layed out and penciled beforehand and inked with a brush and quillpen. Moebius stuff mostly is done with inkpens and NO sketches at all most of the time ;3;

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=988576103914137962&q=jean+giraud (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=988576103914137962&q=jean+giraud)

Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: chigsam on June 07, 2007, 08:59:40 pm
I got really bored at school during math so i drew up this. sorry for the big size :/

(http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/9695/pictuerme0.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on June 07, 2007, 09:57:07 pm
i freaking refuse to believe someone could make a piece like that without a pencil sketch first >.<
that guy is gooood.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: chigsam on June 07, 2007, 10:20:56 pm
im pretty sure you dont mean me  :(
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Gil on June 07, 2007, 10:32:42 pm
You have a VERY long way to go anatomy wise Chigsam ;)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on June 07, 2007, 10:42:55 pm
hehe, pretty sure he means Moebius. And yes, Moebius IS good, very good. Go and search for some of his stuff. One thing to note is "40 days in desert B" which is a comic without a real story he drew in a sketchbook, all landscape format single panel pages. Those were done without any sketchwork with inkpens. It's beautiful

This is one of the most awesome pages from that book imo. Pure gold.
(http://ptoing.net/40days.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: chigsam on June 08, 2007, 12:13:21 am
You have a VERY long way to go anatomy wise Chigsam ;)

He isnt suppose to be normal  :D he is suppose to be a Chibi i think they are called. i never draw good anatomy pictures becuase then i think it ruins the funny in it
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Gil on June 08, 2007, 12:18:37 am
To be able to deform anatomy (chibi means super-deformed) you must first master it...
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: chigsam on June 08, 2007, 12:21:50 am
I have no idea what you mean  ;D
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Krut on June 08, 2007, 12:40:27 am
I have no idea what you mean  ;D


That in order to disregard anatomy, or manipulate it in the ways that you wish to do it (in this case chibi/super deformed), you must first master/have a really good understanding of anatomy.

Something wich i personally dont really share.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: .TakaM on June 08, 2007, 01:50:02 am
my coder for twinsen implemented a neat thing to record the action
(http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8674/videove1.gif)
it actually saves each frame as a .bmp, so you still have to make it a gif yourself, but still its awesome :)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Krut on June 08, 2007, 01:54:36 am
my coder for twinsen implemented a neat thing to record the action
it actually saves each frame as a .bmp, so you still have to make it a gif yourself, but still its awesome :)

That game is absolutely beautiful with a wonderful sense of style; I didnt get a chance till now (even though ive seen it before), to congratulate you on your efforts.

My only concern is that you are dealing with a copyrighted char.

Keep rocking Takam, and i hope that you finish that.

-Krut
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: .TakaM on June 08, 2007, 01:58:37 am
the fact I'm using a copyrighted character isn't anything to worry about from a legal perspective, I have had the chance to talk to Frederick Raynal (creator of LBA), and he doesn't mind at all

But I still completely understand if you have ethical reservations about the fact I'm using twinsen ;)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Krut on June 08, 2007, 02:01:19 am
the fact I'm using a copyrighted character isn't anything to worry about from a legal perspective, I have had the chance to talk to Frederick Raynal (creator of LBA), and he doesn't mind at all

But I still completely understand if you have ethical reservations about the fact I'm using twinsen ;)

No, not at all!; Its the fact that from a legal standpoint you could have gotten into problems getting trough with the game; but since you said you had the authors blessing, well, you are all set then!

Keep pushing those beautiful graphics.

-Krut
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: fawel on June 08, 2007, 03:03:44 am
Hey .Takam, in know Cocopuffs pretty well and wanted to say good job on your progress!  I don't know whether you are aware, but there was a topic posted by him here (http://www.gmclans.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3979&hl=twinsen) with some good critique you may want to look at if you ahven't already.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on June 08, 2007, 03:48:21 am
.TakaM, you are one of the best. <3
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: .TakaM on June 08, 2007, 04:29:13 am
thanks xion <3

and yah fawel, I was aware of that topic ;)
I assume you're "athena", if so, I hate it when cocopuffs makes demos like that :P
I just made a recording, showing off one of the hit combos:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/TakaM/Twinsen/vid.gif)
(Click to see the full screen gif, 2MB)
a pretty easy combo if you set it up before hand, it's like that at the moment just for testing purposes though ;)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on June 08, 2007, 04:36:22 am
That superfluous B&W flash is a bit...jarring...and...annoying.
But I like the idea of comboing enemies into enemies.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: .TakaM on June 08, 2007, 04:39:10 am
it's a bit quicker in game, I think each flash is only 5 frames.. and the last 3 arent too visible, plus most combos wont be that close together, so you wont get such a constant flash going on very often
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Snippa on June 08, 2007, 05:48:51 am
Nice stuff .TakaM, keep up the good work :D
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Gaspy Conana on June 08, 2007, 03:15:41 pm
Here's something I figured some of you might enjoy...

(http://jaytholen.net/cover.gif)

-01- In the Beginning (3:29)
-02- Eden (3:47)
-03- Noah and the Flood (3:02)
-04- Climbing the Ziggurat (5:11)
-05- The Exodus (6:54)

http://jaytholen.net/jaytholen_theoldtestament.zip (http://jaytholen.net/jaytholen_theoldtestament.zip) (30.6 Mb)

This is the first half of a project I've been working on for the past few weeks. Just a fun electronic/chiptune thinger I fit in to distract me from my every day responsibilities. I'm still open to messing around with the songs, so any feedback would be appreciated. I'm influenced heavily by prog rock, jazz fusion, and romantic/baroque period music, so if you like any of that check it out.

I rarely do pixel art anymore, unfortunately. Most of the stuff that I did in the past you can find here: http://jaytholen.net/gallery.html
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on June 08, 2007, 08:15:14 pm
(http://www.locustleaves.com/guitargirl.png)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zee on June 08, 2007, 08:37:09 pm
 :huh: Helm... are there some drugs I should be taking or art ninjas to study under because that is just sincerely awesome.

Seriously... what would you suggest to somebody to get better who's already drawing pretty near constantly?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: AdamAtomic on June 08, 2007, 08:38:52 pm
jay i listened to your album this afternoon and liked it a lot, nice work!
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on June 08, 2007, 08:50:05 pm
:huh: Helm... are there some drugs I should be taking or art ninjas to study under because that is just sincerely awesome.

Seriously... what would you suggest to somebody to get better who's already drawing pretty near constantly?

Are you drawing constantly? Wow, I'm not drawing constantly. How old are you, and what do you want to achieve?

Focused practise for 2 hours a week beats aimless doodling for 2 hours a day, I find. Buy an art book and go through all the basics, how to draw objects under light, from simpler forms to more complex, perspective and anatomy. 
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Gaspy Conana on June 08, 2007, 09:07:40 pm
jay i listened to your album this afternoon and liked it a lot, nice work!

Thanks a lot.  ;D
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on June 08, 2007, 09:11:53 pm
Some good habits:

Find your good time - two to two-and-a-half hours like helm said is the ideal time I've found as well, and you must set out with the goal to accomplish something.  Some of my strongest pieces are literally 2 hours studies.

DON'T overwork a piece - if you have gotten to a point where the piece looks good and you are no longer learning from it, stop!  Move on to something else.
DO review your work - You will learn most form your mistakes.
DON'T give up - learning is about discovering new solutions; if you never try for those, you'll never find them.
DO vary your subjects - Drawing the exact same thing every day and nothing else will only make your hand hurt and your art stop getting better.

Push yourself - intentionally pick things that are attainable, but new.  If you've done it before, you won't learn much.  This can be as simple as changing the colors, or the lighting, or the angle, but you'll want to explore with each piece and pick things you aren't very good at in order to learn.

Enjoy your art - if you constantly go around saying that you'll never be as good as what'shisface, you'll end up right.  Be proud of each accomplishment while studying the good things and bad things that the master's do.

'sabout all for now i think.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on June 08, 2007, 09:33:18 pm
All adarias said I echo. The strongest piece if advice I have for you is, when you set out to draw something and you fail, meaning you end up with a piece of artwork that you yourself feel below your aspiration, that's a real feeling of failure right there. That feeling separates the people that will become artists from those that will not. Some find it unbearable and give up on that artform or even art subject (some people don't draw women / horses / faces for many years as kids because the first time they tried it was completely hideous) completely. If you can help it, don't do this. Keep working, keep pushing.

Let me give you some incentive. I've gotten so much random attention from women for drawing okay, and most of the time I wasn't even trying! You can be a rock star by drawing as well! Think about it. DO YOU WANT TO BE LONELY FOREVER?!?!
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on June 08, 2007, 10:08:13 pm
haha nice incentive helm, might not help the gay or female artists here though.
i use to be a very self discriminating artist. every piece i would ask myself" why is this so bad?" " why am i not as good as ______".
then as i was browsing an sb thread of a great artist at CA, he gave me some words of advice.
say to yourself, 10 times a day( i write it on my sketchpage of the day)" you are as good as you can be at this given point in time"
edit: forgto to say that since then, ive been generally happier with my work, ive had the tendancy to want to explore with more mediums, and dare i say my work has actually become much better than it use to be.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on June 08, 2007, 10:34:38 pm
I've never been upset with my suckiness when it comes to art, just sometimes disappointed, but who isn't, sometimes? Then I just say, "I'll try again when I get better, and more capable of carrying through with my vision." And when I see some awesome art, I don't say "Why am I not that good?" I say "I can't wait 'till I get that good." And more importantly: "What makes that good?"

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Let me give you some incentive. I've gotten so much random attention from women for drawing okay, and most of the time I wasn't even trying! You can be a rock star by drawing as well! Think about it. DO YOU WANT TO BE LONELY FOREVER?!?!
I noticed that, too, and I'm not even that good, yet. Dey just be like makin' straight for me from far away, then lookin' over my shoulder for like minutes, then they be like "zomg ur like toatlly a kwl drawer u hav a gf?" And den I be like "Yo, bakdafucup."
When I hit lvl 62 with my graphite, I wonder how many grrls will be all up ons, then...:D
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on June 09, 2007, 01:05:05 am
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haha nice incentive helm, might not help the gay or female artists here though.
and that's why it rocks to be bisexual :P

Xion : lol, ur scuh a tard, liek, only nwbzorzs go 4 grpht points.  lvl62? i made that in 53 hours.  atm im stacking theory so once i get all the good gear i can pwn evry1.  then i'll have all the hos AND be teh best ranked on my server.

PS: i used to be Michaelangelo but i got hacked.

Realized that i was getting totally OT.  I don't have any art with me right now, but heres something; I don't know how much people here will be interested in novice photography tho :
(http://xs216.xs.to/xs216/07236/12.jpg)

shot on black and white film on a Canon FTb that my dad has had since he was in the marines :P.  Developed myself, which explains some of the imperfections of the print.  had to dodge the lower left like a bitch in order for the rest to even be visible >.<
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zee on June 09, 2007, 02:25:22 am
I spent half an hour on this, taking my time, really thinking about it. And here's what I got.
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u5/ZeeHero/deathshroom.png)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on June 09, 2007, 02:36:04 am
Nice, Zee. I can tell by that guy on the back of the page that this is probably a fair improvement for you. Cool shading on the mushroom and all.

That looks alot like my old stuff from like, 9 years ago.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zee on June 09, 2007, 02:39:34 am
The guy on the back or the mushroom looks like your stuff from nine years ago?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on June 09, 2007, 02:40:43 am
The guy on the back.
The mushroom is more like...7 years ago.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: huZba on June 09, 2007, 08:48:09 am
Omfg. Nice shot. Adarias gets 1000 leet points for getting his hands on such a camera. How'd you power up the thing? I don't think they make fitting batteries anymore.
Now i dare you to go and commit mass murder by shooting everything in sight.

Might as well throw in some photos myself, so here's a shot from the balkony:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/huzba/foggy1.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on June 09, 2007, 09:19:58 am
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When I hit lvl 62 with my graphite, I wonder how many grrls will be all up ons, then..

Sadly if you draw on level 10 and if you draw on level 62 for most women/men without an 'artist's eye' it's pretty much the same. It's not so much how good the exact thing you're drawing is, but just that you are drawing and are creative that gets the attention. So that's an initial incentive I mentioned but it won't make you a great artist, unless the girl you're after has a great eye and tells you she'll only sleep with you when you can draw like Leonardo.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on June 09, 2007, 10:34:40 am
How'd you power up the thing?
that's actually a funny story, because the battery just went crap a few weeks ago, so actually, i can't power up the thing any more.  the meter was kinda broken already anyway tho (always read low) so it hardly makes a difference; although sometimes i fuck up my guess at the light.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/huzba/foggy1.jpg)

oo, fun one, loving the lighting effect.  out of curiousity, whta city is that?  i know they all look the same, but for some reason it makes me think so much of Oakland, CA.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Malor on June 09, 2007, 07:57:32 pm
well..I jsut took an hour on another peice for my summer sketch book....The scanner completely raped the quality of the peice, and sent the remains to the fires of hell, for further destruction. In short, not much survived.I may take a picture of the drawing, to restore the quality...maybe not, anyways a big file, so I'm just gonna post the URL..

http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/iceman509/?action=view&current=wornwarrior.png (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/iceman509/?action=view&current=wornwarrior.png)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on June 09, 2007, 08:46:16 pm
ah, a boromir-type hero sketch...that brings back memories...
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Malor on June 09, 2007, 10:07:35 pm
ah, a boromir-type hero sketch...that brings back memories...

Yesh...and it was fun to do too :crazy:
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on June 10, 2007, 04:17:34 pm
(http://www.locustleaves.com/rolf2.png)

Rolf is not pleased.

just daily practise stuff. ~40 mins
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Malor on June 10, 2007, 08:23:21 pm
That is the best thing EVAR, Helm ;D I even laughed out loud a little ;D

I took a picture of the drawing, messed with contrast and lighting a bit with photoshop, and it is finally presentable..

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/iceman509/wornwarrior-1.png (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/iceman509/wornwarrior-1.png)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Sherman Gill on June 10, 2007, 09:49:41 pm
Augh! But.. but... it's looks like it was taken from a camera, using flash now. Why would you do thattt?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Malor on June 10, 2007, 10:07:05 pm
Augh! But.. but... it's looks like it was taken from a camera, using flash now. Why would you do thattt?

but it was, and because it was dark in the room, and I did not feel like turning on a light. :-[ The lines themsevles are light anyway, so I probably washed them out a bit..
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Gil on June 10, 2007, 10:09:00 pm
Malor, I'll work my photoshop magic on the image, I might be able to save something from it...

Edit: Okay, here is what I made of the sketch... a bit overboard perhaps...

(http://art.game-designer.org/pixelart/edit/wornwarrior-1.png)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on June 10, 2007, 10:42:26 pm
Gil i think you lost a bit too much information there, but i can hardly do any better >.<

(http://xs216.xs.to/xs216/07241/Sketchums.png)

we should make presenting this image an activity ^^
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on June 10, 2007, 10:53:13 pm
>:O

(http://www.ptoing.net/malorsketch.png)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Malor on June 10, 2007, 11:06:05 pm
he he I didn't know you all cared<3..I probably could have done more but I'm lazy :P by the way.. typing with a wii sucks..but,surfing the web is kinda fun... :crazy:
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Gil on June 10, 2007, 11:37:16 pm
Sorry Ptoing and Adarias, but I was not trying to get clean outlines out of it, but rather a correct representation of what a paper sketch should look like. I think mine is a lot more pleasing to the eye and to the art...
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on June 10, 2007, 11:40:30 pm
I dunno, yours is frigging blurry.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Gil on June 10, 2007, 11:51:23 pm
I know, I like it that way. Ah, well, it's malor's piece, at least he knows he can still go somewhere with mediocre sketches...
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on June 11, 2007, 12:50:46 am
a correct representation of what a paper sketch should look like.

lol, if that's how paper sketches look to you, i would go buy some reading glasses ^^, (and if that doesn't work, wash your hands :P)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Malor on June 11, 2007, 12:56:51 am
at least he knows he can still go somewhere with mediocre sketches...

aw :(... :P Joking, I know I have alot to improve on.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on June 11, 2007, 01:01:05 am
at least he knows he can still go somewhere with mediocre sketches...

personally i thought that was way out of line Gil, the sketch is no bad place for a 13 year old to be at.  any reason to take a cheap shot at a newcomer?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on June 11, 2007, 01:06:22 am
I have to agree there. You know Gil. knock knock.......knock  ;)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Malor on June 11, 2007, 02:54:10 am
at least he knows he can still go somewhere with mediocre sketches...

personally i thought that was way out of line Gil, the sketch is no bad place for a 13 year old to be at.  any reason to take a cheap shot at a newcomer?


aw thanks ;D And you too Ptoing, I still think what Gil said had some merit, I do have alot to work on..but the complement was nice ;D
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on June 11, 2007, 08:40:15 am
If you're thirteen and you didn't use extensive reference for this, then you're doing much, much better than I did at your age.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Malor on June 11, 2007, 12:48:35 pm
I used a reference for some of it, like the folds..but most of it is my own.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Gil on June 11, 2007, 04:19:32 pm
Hey guys, stop the witch hunt, I was obviously talking about the scan, not the drawing skills itself, as that is probably about as good as what I can do and I'm 21. Did you see me edit the drawing? I only edited the actual scan, because it had very bad lighting.

So, Malor, I love the drawing, you just need a better way to get it onto computer. That was my point, but you realised that yourself...
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: huZba on June 11, 2007, 09:04:42 pm
oo, fun one, loving the lighting effect.  out of curiousity, whta city is that?  i know they all look the same, but for some reason it makes me think so much of Oakland, CA.

A town called hyrylä in eastern finland.

Oh and nice going malor. The only thing i did with a pen in your age was this kind of drawing war where you take turns to draw tanks and other warmachines that try to destroy the opposition (the other side of the paper).
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: slambamamy on June 12, 2007, 12:47:06 am
I figure it's too big

http://www.jafsitedesign.com/collegeartstore/uploads/43.jpg

what should i add to it or fix it or faults or poop

its not bad considering Ive never tried drawing glasses or water splashes. I can't figure out how to scan well too. It looks far better in person :-\

and how should i color it if at all? ink? colored pencils? vector? water colour?

i didn't finish drawing the continents because i only had free time with my history book for the last 5 minutes of class :3
finals  :'(
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Malor on June 12, 2007, 01:49:30 am
I would go for some coolored pencils, but any of those options would work...I see those motor-functions are coming back  :crazy:
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Gil on June 12, 2007, 11:26:17 am
Colored pencils + hue shift = sexy!

Try it out...
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: miascugh on June 12, 2007, 06:52:24 pm
Speaking of which, I happen to have tried colored pencils for the first time last weekend.

(http://miascugh.ptoing.net/cg/sketches22.jpg)

I didn't feel like I could render the leather-jacket properly without reference, and don't think I will finish it off anymore due to overall silliness.
Also, rather bad quality shot, the dark part of his snout and the tail are the same color on paper.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on June 12, 2007, 07:13:16 pm
i like with the white jacket :P

leather always tends to get a bunch of diamond-shaped folds in the sleeves, and very few folds in the rest.  It gets up to about a medium gray with regular light, but every crest shines rather clean and white, whole thing has the texture of a football.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faceless on June 13, 2007, 04:38:49 am
This will be the first time I've ever posted non pixel art here, so go easy on me. !yus!
I don't have a scanner, so this is my first test run with my digital camera.

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9853/rimg0002nt6.jpg
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/1782/rimg0004zv6.jpg
(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/815/rimg0007fe1.jpg)
(http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/7143/rimg0005jd8.jpg)
(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8904/rimg0003id5.jpg)
If you squint, you might be able to see some Ptoing and Panda ripoffs/gifts/fanart. Sorry for not including you Helm... maybe next time.
Oh! And it wouldn't be me without some Zelda fanart. ;p

The middle one came out a bit blurry. :'(
I might take some more photos of my sketchbook in the future.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on June 13, 2007, 05:26:07 am
Awesome, Faceness. The amplekofferies are soo friggin'...cute!
Nice cursor.
Midna's lookin hawt.

Mia: That is one badangry lookin' bear. Looks like something that would be in a children's book.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Mirre on June 13, 2007, 08:02:16 am
Just a little something I did last week:
(http://www.bluedelirium.com/gallery/original/dewfairy.jpg)

And something I did a month or two back, but never posted anywhere:
(http://www.bluedelirium.com/gallery/original/pianodream.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on June 13, 2007, 10:55:38 am
That piano one is REALLY nice. very good illustration.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on June 13, 2007, 11:07:49 am
I have to agree. Nice idea, great execution.

(http://www.locustleaves.com/nikujin.png)

nikujin fanart!
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: philipptr on June 13, 2007, 12:23:32 pm
First time I get to see a naked ninja :D
What medium is that you used for this pic?
I would guess something analog but the grey is much too constant  :-\
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on June 13, 2007, 12:55:50 pm
It's all made in Manga Studio 3 EX
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on June 13, 2007, 01:24:20 pm
..but the grey is much too constant  :-\

The gray could be the papercolour. :P
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Malor on June 13, 2007, 02:40:15 pm
oo, fun one, loving the lighting effect.  out of curiousity, whta city is that?  i know they all look the same, but for some reason it makes me think so much of Oakland, CA.

A town called hyrylä in eastern finland.

Oh and nice going malor. The only thing i did with a pen in your age was this kind of drawing war where you take turns to draw tanks and other warmachines that try to destroy the opposition (the other side of the paper).

ooo I did that qith stick figures...and star wars themed things when I was 9...I had a 4 page battle...it was good fun. By the way, it's a .5 lead mechanical pencil, not a pen o.0


[edit]: Next time post your sketches here instead of the OT thread >:0 - Panda

Did a portrait..an American rapper "Lil Wayne" one of my favorites...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/iceman509/LilWaynePortrait.jpg

yeaah...still crappy quality..


edit- damn my bad :'(
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: HMC on June 13, 2007, 06:52:01 pm
Little thing I did yesterday. It was actually supposed to be just a doodle of Mario. The boos were an afterthought.

(http://dylangallagher.googlepages.com/marioghosthouse.png)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: chigsam on June 13, 2007, 08:18:07 pm
these are from not to long ago but not recent  ::) i really enjoy myself :P

(http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/6601/yellowgrassqj8.png)
thats my favorite and it was my first one!  ;D

(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/2238/tangledvineshg3.png)
thats my second favorite one   :)

i would like to know how you guys like them :o
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: philipptr on June 13, 2007, 08:34:58 pm
@HMC: nice work, only marios pose is a bit strange, and his expression is more hypntoised than frightened ;)
@chigsam: sorry, but these look like 3 min photshop (paint 2 colours than use liquify, add text, done)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: chigsam on June 13, 2007, 08:37:55 pm
3 minutes?!  :'( ya right took so long just to get them to look decent! especially the grass. the vines took a little less >:(
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: The B.O.B. on June 13, 2007, 09:03:50 pm
Not to be rude, but I really hope you're joking...seriously( either liquify, or the smudge tool...not much to it)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on June 14, 2007, 01:25:33 am
Ooh, Mirre, I love your piano picture thing.  Only a little bit because I play piano, and a lot because it looks great.  :y:
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on June 14, 2007, 02:44:39 am
yeah, those illustrations are really nice, mirre.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Kennethfejer on June 14, 2007, 06:14:08 pm
(http://www.kennethfejer.com/images/car3.gif)
(wip)

texture: 128x64
3dsmax & photoshop
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faceless on June 14, 2007, 09:23:14 pm
That's just awesome.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on June 14, 2007, 10:06:03 pm
for a texture of that size, it might be nice to see a little bit more sculpting of the body, but, as usual, this is rather ace stuff.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Kennethfejer on June 15, 2007, 12:29:54 pm
final product:
(http://www.kennethfejer.com/images/lowpoly_car.gif)

(http://www.kennethfejer.com/images/lowpoly_car_anim.gif.gif)

going to move on to the track now.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Mirre on June 17, 2007, 02:06:21 pm
Thanks ptoing, Helm, Ryumaru, Faktablad. I'm glad you guys like them.

Faktablad: Incidentally that painting was made as a 40th birthday gift for my uncle who is a professional pianist.


And here's something from last year that I forgot to scan. Christmas present for my dad (who plays the violin).
(http://bluedelirium.com/gallery/original/rainbowviolin.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faceless on June 17, 2007, 04:33:28 pm
That's uncanny! I drew something almost exactly the same as that a few years ago. Same rotation and size/position in relation to the page. The only significant difference is I used colour pencils, and green instead of blue (we were instructed to use opposite colours). There were a number of instruments on the table for us to copy, and the violin happened to have broken strings as well.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: AdamAtomic on June 18, 2007, 06:05:56 am
Theme song for my NES mockup (over in the doodles thread):  http://adam.lastchancemedia.com/tunes/refinery.nsf
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Lawrence on June 18, 2007, 11:34:47 am
Nice song Adam, goes very well with the visual side.

Mirre the colours on those are very nice, that piano pic is amazing.

I might as well post up a little song I'm working on here (http://lawrence.lh.googlepages.com/Vaio1.mp3). It's heavily sample based (infact 100% sample based), so see if any of it rings a bell.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on June 18, 2007, 12:03:34 pm
Sounds like there is Portishead in there quite a bit?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Lawrence on June 18, 2007, 02:01:04 pm
Heheh, there's no Portishead, although the song does sound like them I suppose. The samples are actually Miles Davis, Herbie Hancock, Eric Satie and a few other bits and bobs.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: HMC on June 18, 2007, 11:36:26 pm
Did this in about 4 and a half hours. Don't ask.

(http://dylangallagher.googlepages.com/kipsofmudfinal.png)

I'll fix up the issues with the whole breast area soon enough. Also, I'm aware she looks like a man. I guess it's just another thing I need to work on. 12 years of public school art classes never really taught me anything about the human anatomy beyond the rules of thumb for the male facial structure.  :-\
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on June 19, 2007, 12:04:11 am
Is she supposed to be that one pokemon...mudkip, was it?

Oh, and mirre, you are a veryveryveryveryvery awesome artist. piano = <3
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Malor on June 19, 2007, 01:37:11 pm
Nice song Adam, goes very well with the visual side.

Mirre the colours on those are very nice, that piano pic is amazing.

I might as well post up a little song I'm working on here (http://lawrence.lh.googlepages.com/Vaio1.mp3). It's heavily sample based (infact 100% sample based), so see if any of it rings a bell.

Very cool! :D :y: I don't recognize any of it, but it is still pretty sweet ;D
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on June 27, 2007, 09:37:15 am
Two tiny acrylic paintings in a small moleskine

(http://www.ptoing.net/uhead_froot.jpg)

(http://www.ptoing.net/uhead_yus.jpg)

Here to see just how small they are, the scans above have the same resize ratio.
(http://www.ptoing.net/uheadtiny.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: .TakaM on June 27, 2007, 10:38:26 am
ooh very nice ptoing, gonna make a quasi-manual for u-head? coz that art would be perfect for it :)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: HMC on June 27, 2007, 03:50:24 pm
Those are beautiful, Ptoing.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: HMC on June 28, 2007, 02:46:48 am
I don't mean to be biting peoples heads off here but

(http://dylangallagher.googlepages.com/iambitingyourheadoff2.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Cow on June 28, 2007, 05:30:22 am
That second one is adorable Ptoing. I think I may just have to set it as my desktop.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Feron on June 28, 2007, 07:56:27 am
That second one is adorable Ptoing. I think I may just have to set it as my desktop.

i already did :p

heres a hir res version:  http://www.ptoing.net/uhead_yus.png
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: .TakaM on June 28, 2007, 01:10:42 pm
a new painting homebrew app has been released for DS, it's only 1.02, but it's very good so far.
can even sense the pressure of the brush, something I didn't know the DS was capable of.
started a twinsen pic, I'll post again when I finish it:
(http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/6906/colorsslot0dx3.png)
edit-
oh, and you can replay your paintings, very cool :)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faceless on June 28, 2007, 01:19:26 pm
Link?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: .TakaM on June 28, 2007, 01:20:59 pm
oh true
http://www.collectingsmiles.com/colors/
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Locrian on June 28, 2007, 07:32:59 pm
been spending some time over at conceptart.org
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c41/Burtzum/burtzum_chow77_final.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: soldat on June 28, 2007, 08:07:03 pm
(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4800/toon2bn7.png)

Can i please have feedback on this?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on June 28, 2007, 10:01:21 pm
Locrian: nice. Your pose is invented and bad, huge foreshortened leg in front, seems like you just started rendering the head/torso and went with it, wherever. Construct more, paint less.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on June 29, 2007, 03:22:14 am
Just finished another CRAAAAAZY song.

http://media.putfile.com/Drip-Drop-88 (http://media.putfile.com/Drip-Drop-88)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: .TakaM on June 29, 2007, 05:43:50 am
started a better drawing :P
(http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/2563/colorsslot4qt1.png)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Locrian on June 29, 2007, 05:47:07 am
damn!  I redrew the legs 5 bazillion times trying to get them to look right.  Care to do a paintover?

Something more like this?
hmm no now he just looks short.  ugh.
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c41/Burtzum/junk/redolegtest.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on June 29, 2007, 06:01:43 am
That is certainly much better anatomically. Your posture is lacking. You're not using the off hand to give this character any traits, especially, you're obstructing the fingers. After the face, the hands are the most expressive part of the human, and the face is all hairy and oversharpened, and the hand is obscured. The other has a magic blue glow. As rendering practise, this is great, congrats on upgrading your cg painting skill. As an illustration piece which should be carrying emotion and contextual information for the character, you can do much better.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: .TakaM on June 29, 2007, 09:50:33 am
(http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/9725/dsgv6.png)
no room for the legs, I probably should've done it with my DS vertical..
I guess I'll draw em in on a seperate image and put them together with photoshop
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Conzeit on June 29, 2007, 10:10:24 am
wow, that is awesome TakaM.

that SO makes me feel like getting a DS, what is the homebrew app, and what are the hardaware pieces you need to do pass information between DS and PC, and how much does each cost?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: .TakaM on June 29, 2007, 10:16:44 am
you can download the app here:
http://www.collectingsmiles.com/colors/

and for a flash cart, I'd recommend the R4, there are quite a few good solutions for homebrew on the DS now, but the majority of users (and homebrew developers) have R4's and develop with them in mind.

I got a deal where I got a 1GB microSD in the same package so everything arrived on the same day, I haven't really looked for the best deal since I'm very happy with my R4, but here's one that seems alright:
http://modchipstore.com/R4-DS-R4DS-Slot-1-solution-homebrew-backups-microsd-16424.html

making skins for R4 is really easy too, just a couple .bmps if you feel like it, there's thousands of skins made by fans and a couple websites where you can find one you want :)

edit-
(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8407/untitled2copyxj2.png)
done I guess
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ragnarok on June 29, 2007, 10:27:09 am
Not the most difficult of pieces, but a time-consuming one, as I had to draw, ink, scan, and mod it before it was done. I'm thinking of using it as the logo for my platform/(mmo?)rpg project.
(http://www.freewebs.com/delphinusmach1/BlackMoonLogo.gif)
 
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Locrian on June 29, 2007, 12:24:08 pm
Thanks for the crits Helm.  I will keep everything you said in mind when I go back to work on it.  As well as for new pieces.  You are right I neglect the hands and need to bang out a couple hundred gestures to learn to pose things properly.  I will also make sure to post stuff here more often.  People at CA.org don't give much helpful critique it seems.  At least not in the character a week section.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on June 29, 2007, 02:45:47 pm
Any comments on my song?  I looooooove feedback.  :-*
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on June 29, 2007, 03:23:19 pm
Thanks for the crits Helm.  I will keep everything you said in mind when I go back to work on it.  As well as for new pieces.  You are right I neglect the hands and need to bang out a couple hundred gestures to learn to pose things properly.  I will also make sure to post stuff here more often.  People at CA.org don't give much helpful critique it seems.  At least not in the character a week section.

That's a real shame to hear about CA.org.

Faktablad, I listened to the music but didn't post anything because it didn't resonate in any way with me. If that's any sort of critique that's useful for you, there it is, but I'm sorry I can't say more, electronic music isn't exactly my realm of knowledge.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on June 29, 2007, 03:31:28 pm
That's OK, Helm.  I understand if you don't like that kind of music. 
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: AdamAtomic on June 29, 2007, 03:41:20 pm
zomg more lego:

(http://adam.lastchancemedia.com/art/lego5.jpg)

Bonus points if you can actually recognize the ship on the right...
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on June 29, 2007, 03:43:24 pm
I can but I can't place it in a game, damn it. Don't they rotate on their z axis?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: .TakaM on June 29, 2007, 03:54:12 pm
okay, when I was checking out the transformer toys, there was this massive lego truck
(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8536/8285yi6.jpg)
none of the boxes had a pricetag, but if I had the money I would've sat through the whole movie building the thing.
So I'm gonna get the lego sack out of the attic and build a big ass truck
if it turns out good, I'll take pictures :P
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on June 29, 2007, 09:41:44 pm
Bonus points if you can actually recognize the ship on the right...
It's a long shot, but is it one of the fighter ships from the beginning of the Lost in Space movie?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Stwelin on June 29, 2007, 10:24:28 pm
Thanks for the crits Helm.  I will keep everything you said in mind when I go back to work on it.  As well as for new pieces.  You are right I neglect the hands and need to bang out a couple hundred gestures to learn to pose things properly.  I will also make sure to post stuff here more often.  People at CA.org don't give much helpful critique it seems.  At least not in the character a week section.

Was it in the finished works section or the critique section? In any case, CA tends to deviate more towards praise and showcase for professional artists, at least that is what i got from it. A nice site though, I browse.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: AdamAtomic on June 29, 2007, 10:51:02 pm
haha i guess it was impossible to guess, between the crap model and the crap photo, it was supposed to be at least reminiscent of this:

http://www.flyingomelette.com/reviews/nes/screens/gradiusboss.gif
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/711/711048/gradius-collection-20060602041317751.jpg

That guy that shows up all over in Konami games :P  In my defense he looks slightly better in RL than it does in the photo...but not by a whole lot :P  I was hoping the sheilds and core might give it away...
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Feron on June 29, 2007, 10:58:10 pm
photo is very dark on the core side.


amateur photos:  http://pixelheart.net/gallery 
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on June 29, 2007, 11:11:41 pm
wow, Adam, I am familiar with gradious lots, and that certainly doesn't look much like that :P
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Malor on June 30, 2007, 02:49:36 pm
photo is very dark on the core side.


amateur photos:  http://pixelheart.net/gallery 

mmmm...I enjoyed the snow photos quite a bit, the others were alright..but I really liked the snow pictures :y:
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: JonathanOfDrain on July 01, 2007, 01:36:30 pm
I wanted to make my own Objection! but never got very far.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/SariK/lobstersuit.png)
I also was starting a painting project so I could use my brushes again.
It's a decent scan. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/SariK/nintendotaur1.png)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: InvaderLupus on July 04, 2007, 05:43:22 am
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/digijohn90/acolyte.png)

messing around with vectors in Flash. Hurray for crappy shading/anatomy!
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on July 05, 2007, 03:15:18 pm
acrylic on 2.5x3 inch cardboard

Was just a test to see how I like cardboard and I like it a lot.

(http://www.ptoing.net/uha03as.jpg)

(http://www.ptoing.net/uhead_3.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on July 06, 2007, 10:45:26 am
3"x4"ish

(http://ptoing.net/birdthing.jpg)

(http://ptoing.net/birdthinga.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: rabidbaboy on July 06, 2007, 12:55:24 pm
Ptoing, that duck-on-cardboard rocks.
You paint like how you pixel, hehe. :)

And now, for teh doodels:

(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6678/sandmanmy7.png)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zach on July 07, 2007, 12:21:07 am
acid-free cardboard right?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on July 07, 2007, 12:45:01 am
I have not the slightest clue if it is acid free actually. I cut the pieces from a box of some stuff i ordered of the net some time ago and had lying around.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: junkboy on July 07, 2007, 02:30:39 am
Been trying to work more in traditional media, wich is quite a nerve wrecking experience after getting used to ctrl+z..

Gouache/photoshop on A4 bristol board.
(http://i16.tinypic.com/4mjrwqc.jpg)

Pen & CD marker on A4 copy paper.
(http://i11.tinypic.com/6eznxbd.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Sherman Gill on July 07, 2007, 02:59:51 am
I love that hatching technique on the side of the building Junkboy.

Also, how did you get such sharp lines with paint?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on July 07, 2007, 03:29:55 am
Good stuff junkboy. On the gouache one some of those hatchy lines seem a bit unmotivated. They do nothing but add some stuff which is not needed at all. Specifically the ones in the yellow under the tank and the ones on the train where it's really dark, and some in the sky. There would be no such detail and you do not use enough hatching to make use it as a proper stylething here. They neither work as valid vocal points, so I guess you got a bit carried away there.

Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: AdamAtomic on July 07, 2007, 05:19:07 am
that new stuff is really ace junkboy, your compositions are getting much stronger.  the lines and perspective seem a little off in the color piece, but I really like the finished look and technique, i love how gouache can look like watercolors OR acrylics...
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on July 08, 2007, 09:42:57 pm
A quick sketch, still some non-feminine feature issues

(http://xs217.xs.to/xs217/07270/Avi2.jpg)

i missed several pages of people's stuff....i've been online so seldom these last few weeks.  It was fun to look through so many though.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on July 09, 2007, 09:53:46 am
(http://www.ptoing.net/glazebot.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on July 09, 2007, 10:08:20 am
Adarias: more nosetril studies.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Evil-Ville on July 09, 2007, 10:13:26 pm
(http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/4452/lameqe6.png)
(http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/9663/rapeface2nj3.png)

No real story behind these. Just started drawing and ended up with these two pictures. Way too many random squiggly lines on the face. Actually it's just horrible drawing. I don't know why I uploaded it in the first place.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on July 10, 2007, 01:15:23 am
actually im going to move this post

ptoing - loving it, even if i dont know quite what it is.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: EyeCraft on July 10, 2007, 04:38:43 pm
This is a WIP of a blacksmith character from a roleplay I partake in;

(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z212/gastrop0d/browk5.jpg)

Been a long time since I played in photoshop or with a tablet, and my hand is actually aching from it   :hehe:
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on July 10, 2007, 05:01:01 pm
Uncle Lenin?!
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on July 10, 2007, 07:35:53 pm
Haha, Lenin indeed. How the beard and the side of the hammer line up is really weird, as well as how the hammer is totally front on.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: EyeCraft on July 10, 2007, 08:22:06 pm
Hah, I had to look that up, I know him as "the Russian dude from The Jackal intro sequence".

I edited the shot (see previous post). Incidently, what are people's recommendations for non-pixel art critique forums? I posted on gfx-artist and cgsociety so far.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on July 10, 2007, 08:27:47 pm
conceptart.org is a good place for people of most levels (real beginners shouldn't be there, but you aren't one of those)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on July 10, 2007, 09:43:44 pm
Quote
I know him as "the Russian dude from The Jackal intro sequence".

oh my. He's a very important historical figure. It makes me scared that that's the context you know him in.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: JonathanOfDrain on July 10, 2007, 11:15:43 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/SariK/ba374619.png)
1 hour speed paint. I'm proud, nose and mouths still need practice but I think it's pretty decent for an hour of paint.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: EyeCraft on July 11, 2007, 06:20:06 am
Quote
I know him as "the Russian dude from The Jackal intro sequence".

oh my. He's a very important historical figure. It makes me scared that that's the context you know him in.

I know! I recognised his face, and his story, though. Just not his name.

JonathanOfDrain: cool. I like the eyepatch. The piece as a whole almost looks like a bumpmap, though, rather than something lit.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: junkboy on July 11, 2007, 06:54:13 am
Sherman Gill: Thanks! Well, that'd be Photoshop: sharpen, brighten/contrast and some digital repainting.

ptoing: Yeah, I'm not sure where I was going with that. I guess I started doing it, got distracted by something else in the picture and then never went back to finish it.
You have some lovely stylization in your acrylic paintings so far though, good job!  :y:

AdamAtomic: Thanks! I guess the concious effort to improve compositions payed off. I still have no idea what I'm doing though. Gouache is a lot of fun while you're working, not so fun after it's dried and the colors suddenly are fucked up.  :huh:

Adarias: I've found that, generally, the less you render a face, the more feminine it'll look. Not saying you should go all manga or anything, but holding back on some stuff could be an improvement?


Oh, and does anyone know of a good method to transfer a drawing to canvas without tracing or redrawing?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on July 11, 2007, 12:40:28 pm
there are shops that print on canvas.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: robotriot on July 11, 2007, 09:54:14 pm
Here's some crappy low-poly modeling. Took 6 hours to render, and then I realized the bump map was inverted, doh! :D

(http://robotriot.hokuten.net/img/splitskiesng.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on July 11, 2007, 09:58:59 pm
with a texture that detailed, i'm not sure what bump mapping would actually achieve?

it's a fun design though.

printing paintings on canvas is a little disappointing a lot of the time i find unless they are thinly painted in real life, because it ends up flattening smoothing all the brushwork, trading tiled physical texture for a lot of artistic visual texture
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: robotriot on July 11, 2007, 10:02:45 pm
Adarias: I meant the bump on the floor actually, there is none on the plane ;)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on July 12, 2007, 01:16:36 am
There are also shops where they scan the painting somehow and print it with a special technique which has texture just like the painting, or almost.

I think that is quite expensive tho :B
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: JonathanOfDrain on July 12, 2007, 07:59:32 am
I think they use vinyl or some sort of plastic to make the texture then print on it. I think I saw it on "how it's made" when I was sick once.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on July 12, 2007, 08:11:08 am
Here's some crappy low-poly modeling. Took 6 hours to render, and then I realized the bump map was inverted, doh! :D
That's cool. It looks like it was made from paper or something.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: AdamAtomic on July 12, 2007, 02:46:28 pm
Here's some crappy low-poly modeling. Took 6 hours to render, and then I realized the bump map was inverted, doh! :D
That's cool. It looks like it was made from paper or something.

Ditto looks very much like papercraft!
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: EyeCraft on July 14, 2007, 04:25:14 pm
I actually thought it was paper at first, heh. Very cool.

Had a go at a self portrait...its not perfect but I'm really quite proud of how it turned out;

(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z212/gastrop0d/self-portrait-15-7-07--3.jpg)

About an hour's work. From mirror.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on July 14, 2007, 05:12:27 pm
It looks more like a painting of clay than a painting of the real thing.  Which is pretty sweet, mind you.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on July 14, 2007, 06:04:54 pm

yes, I know, huge nose, wierd eye, all that.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: EyeCraft on July 14, 2007, 10:59:08 pm
yes, I know, huge nose, wierd eye, all that.

But its got a robot!

The shading seems decent overall, just a pity about the proportions.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: inkspot on July 15, 2007, 02:08:52 pm
I tested out my movie making abilities with my only usable camera thats on cell phone!
Damn thing wiggles all the time when i take a picture, even though I built a stative. Crap.

http://www.hot.ee/tindiplekk/proov1.wmv
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Malor on July 16, 2007, 12:18:25 am
Wha? A self portrait that looks like me?....well it sorta looks like me. This version SUCKS. I really should get a better scanner/camera... I messed around with it for a while on photoshop...but I failed.. so this is it, the original is 100% better...

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/iceman509/selfportrait.png)

A good 1 hour spent on this..and my family helped point out points that were inaccurate..for the most part at least..
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: inkspot on July 16, 2007, 01:28:13 am
(http://www.clicksandbleeps.com/arts/kass1.jpg)
(http://www.clicksandbleeps.com/arts/maal2.jpg)

I messed with oils a bit.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: lilwing on July 16, 2007, 03:31:15 am
my Opa's bayonet from wwii. standard issue swedish mauser. drawing is by me, i'd say i spent a good two hours on it. (original drawing is really huge. about 3 feet in height)

(http://anachronismus.com/images/drawings/wwiibayonet.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: HMC on July 16, 2007, 04:28:56 am
I made a doodle in Paint the other day.

(http://dylangallagher.googlepages.com/tengudoodle.gif)

Final product

(http://dylangallagher.googlepages.com/tengulament.png)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryan Cordel on July 16, 2007, 12:31:47 pm
Heh, cool. Has that Ptoing-ish feeling to it. :P
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: robotriot on July 18, 2007, 06:06:52 pm
Here's an animation we created in a couple of days (that's why it doesn't contain a lot of animation actually ;) featuring ... robots. There's a download link for a better quality version if you care enough about the actual video (it's pretty pointless on youtube).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dFwrHI8wng
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Conzeit on July 18, 2007, 06:21:36 pm
Here's my ( completly ignorable after HMC's  ::) ) piece

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b340/baybaybom/Raiz04.png)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Sherman Gill on July 21, 2007, 03:50:54 am
(http://lorne.lastchancemedia.com/Images/Clogre4.png)
 :yell: CLOOOOGRE!
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: inkspot on July 22, 2007, 09:24:57 pm
Did this a while ago. My first try at Painter, I did need Photoshop. Drawing with a mouse is quite difficult.

(http://www.hot.ee/tindiplekk/lumi.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on July 23, 2007, 11:19:09 am
Wheeee, colour pencils!

(http://www.ptoing.net/cp1.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on July 23, 2007, 04:07:08 pm
:o !!!!
I like them all! Especially the squidman and robot.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: junkboy on July 25, 2007, 02:32:57 am
Gotta love girlie mags.
(http://i11.tinypic.com/4vh99uw.png)

Trivia: This model (Bianca Sutton) was also prominently featured in a magazine called SNAP! - "Where the girls don't have joints".

ptoing: I second Xion, squidman and robot are just too cool.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Lmnop on July 30, 2007, 10:59:50 am
@HMC :i love the way you rendered that, very nice.
@Ptoing: awesome pencil work, favourite is the robot.
@Junkboy: amazing as always. really digging the face and hair.
Everyone else i didnt mention: Some great stuff in this thread keep it up.

Now just something quick that came about doodling in oC.
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r14/lmnopart/sketches/dudescarfmehdone.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on August 01, 2007, 02:20:47 am
Havent been posting much since the loss of my camera and color scnning, but I have a rare work of mine that was both small enough for the scanner and could be achieved in grayscale, the only channel which still functions.

Here is the preparatory work for the central figure in a current painting.  It is realized in pencil over a ground (2 parts guesso 1 part acryllic), the color of which i approximated using photoshop.

(http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/2115/blindrz7.jpg)

Scene : I Samuel 15:33
"And Samuel said, As thy sword hath made women childless, so shall thy mother be childless among women. And Samuel hewed Agag in pieces before Jehovah in Gilgal."
Symbols : Surprisingly few so far, split into a little dichotomoy:
The wretchedness of the Amalek?
The first stroke has blinded Agag, blinding being considered a punishment of God for sin.  Agag is turned away from the light of the Lord, representing his separation from the children of Israel.  He covers his eyes with his left hand, the hand used to wipe oneself in the days before toilet paper, to represent his impurity.
The wickedness of Samuel?
Agag is naked and unarmed, and makes no effort to protect himself.  He falls onto a white cloth representing the lightweight innocence with which he lived and approached samuel "pinned down" by the viciousness of his death.
My hope is that the scene will be open enough to be interpreted either way.

Known issues - his right (our left) flank and shoulder needs to be reworked from the breast up.  Also, his left hip needs to be defined a little differently.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: SplatPixel on August 01, 2007, 07:21:50 am
WiP

quick character. needs a lot of work...

(http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7122/femaleoc5.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on August 01, 2007, 01:56:12 pm
Athough the design is nice, there's something a little awkward about her anatomy.  Mostly, the gap between the legs seems a bit too large, and her hip bones have been removed from the front and rear versions, leaving just a strange connecting line between the ribs and the femur.  The breasts seem a little too simplified as orbs, too, and I worry about the way the top is stretching - remember that every line shows a balance or an inbalance.  Is the curve of her right breast really that much lower than the left that all those lines need to point down?

(http://xs218.xs.to/xs218/07313/Changes.JPG)

I know that you have your style, but I think you can work within that to create a more accurate and functional woman's body.  it's just a little too awkward right now with her really lacking structure in some key areas.  Since getting noticed can make or break a designer, let it be because your designs and style are good, not because your anatomy is confusing.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: SplatPixel on August 02, 2007, 12:41:46 am
very nice, that does look much better. thanks so much for the crit, very helpful. heh, i should ease up stylizing, til i get a better understanding of the female form.

thanks again Adarias
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on August 02, 2007, 02:45:33 am
I should point out that if i didn't have your already very good design to work from I wouldnt have been able to just drop those lines in without some serious thought :P
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: zeid on August 03, 2007, 05:33:46 am
I got Zbrush :crazy:
It is one sexy program!
First piece decided to go for a face study, not that happy with it as it isn't as generic a face I would have liked. I just found the file which I had thought was saved wrong :P. Experimenting with new programs is always fun.
(http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/3012/facequickybf0.jpg)
My second piece another face study about an hour for this one
(http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6716/facequicky2hl6.png)
This was my 3rd experimentation with the program it would have been about an hour for the low res then maybe 30mins for the high res details (Zbrush has a brush system with alphas making 3d texturing=supa sxc). Just as I finished the low res I found out that the brushes not only have a add function but a subtract function. I knew it was in there somewhere but couldn't find it and it REALLY helps. Faster working for me now.
(http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/8490/holyfukwj0.jpg)
(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/2308/holyfukanglesnv5.jpg)
(http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2310/faceupvd3.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on August 03, 2007, 06:28:26 am
Hey Zeid, that last one is awesome. A bit frightening, though.
First one looks great, too.
Second one..that is the strangest ear I've ever seen. Also, a smushed nose and what seems to be strange, pokey-outy lips, (though I cannot be sure) and in general sort of a baby-ish face.

Splat: I always love seeing new stuff from you. I wish you weren't so lazy though, sometimes.

Adarias: Why are you so beastly?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: robalan on August 03, 2007, 03:20:25 pm
That's some pretty sweet stuff, zeid.  I've been thinking about trying out zbrush, but haven't managed to find the time.

@Junkboy: Is it just me or is her left leg not connected to her hip?  o_O  It looks really disconcerting.  I can see what you mean by "SNAP! - "Where the girls don't have joints"."


[EDIT] Also, 1000th post in this thread :P[/EDIT]
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: SplatPixel on August 04, 2007, 03:30:33 am
damn homework... keeping me from drawing

thanks for the help Adarias, hope this looks a little better.

(http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1940/femaleeq4.jpg)

face for another character i got in my head
(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8417/face2rs7.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on August 04, 2007, 04:46:13 am
It is better. While you're at it splat, why not go the full way and open an anatomy book and find out all the other parts where your force-of-habit design deviates from more applicable representations of human physiology?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: bengo on August 04, 2007, 04:48:56 am
...... wut?

Edit: Thanks for teh edit of the quote, didn't notice that it said physiology.... I thought it said psychology. :hehe: My bad.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on August 04, 2007, 08:55:07 am
It is better. While you're at it splat, why not go the whole nine yards and open an anatomy book to find all the other areas where your stylistic habits break the general rules of realistic human anatomy?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: zeid on August 04, 2007, 10:59:20 am
yeah I thought it made sense  !yus!
1 thing with the front view Splat, the lines coming out of the collar bone area seem to give the impression the shoulder is angled oddly and sticky forth obscurely. I'm sure this is a minor issue and someone else would be able to give a much more in depth critique (I probably could give a little more if I tried a bit harder) but this was bugging me :P. Luv your work so far by the way. Oh and I like Ptoings giant robotish business suit man thingo (from a fair few posts back). I'm working to fix the face I did to get it to a very human generic look... Heres a progress shot:
(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/2720/refacels6.png)
(http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9295/faceanglexs5.png)
I am working on all the upper face still; eyes, forehead, brow,etc. Oh and of course I am still adding detail to the ears :P (I now understand that I have a lot more 'brushes' then I thought I did meaning I can push in not just drag out the mesh). There are other areas I am tweaking on the lower part of the face as well (I just fixed the indent above the upper lip, wateva its called, so this progress shot is old).
***
update/complete for now I think I want to give the face study a rest for a bit. So yes I know the ear still looks off :P
(http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/853/facestudycompiw7.png)
(http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/9140/facestudyextraba7.png)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Chalk on August 07, 2007, 04:35:21 am
I really like what's in this thread.
anyone else into graff?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/k_vandal/chalk_grey1.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on August 07, 2007, 12:38:43 pm
There are a few active members who are into that sort of thing.  While you design elements and color choice are interesting, I tend to think that words are a form of communication, so if the tag is not readable because of the design, it's not my cup of tea.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rox on August 07, 2007, 12:55:12 pm
Well, most of the time, people do that to get their own name on a wall. That doesn't communicate a whole lot anyway.

Me, I'm interested, but I don't do it. A few years ago, I really wanted to get into actual graffiti, but it never happened. I still love to look at and analyze designs and tags, though. Honestly, I never liked the ones that use a lot of black...
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on August 07, 2007, 01:22:06 pm
Well, most of the time, people do that to get their own name on a wall. That doesn't communicate a whole lot anyway.
Mh, perhaps for people who do it as a hobby, but still, in a world where name=livelihood, it seems like you'ld want people to be able to read it O.o
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on August 07, 2007, 01:38:24 pm
Thing is, if you are in the graffiti scene you know all the people (or at least the ones who reach a certain status) and you will be able to recognise their stuff anyway. There are enough graff-mags out there anyway. Also on words being a means of communication, that as everything else can be bent. Basically you have a very smooth transition from type as readable letters to type as graphical element, be it readable or not. Graffiti just usually is on the lesser readable more designy side.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rox on August 07, 2007, 02:44:10 pm
Well, that's an aspect too. Some people INVENTED styles that they became famous for. "Style" in this case means "way of making your name unreadable unless you figure it out".

If you're consistent in style, people will know you maybe not by name, but by how your pieces look. They might spot a piece and go "Hmm... oh, it's THAT guy! I knew I'd seen that first squiggly before."
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on August 07, 2007, 03:46:25 pm
Urban territorial piss-wars. Tagging as a form of summoning private ownership to destroy public ownership. Who owns this wall now, bitch? Say my name. My name is a brand. I am selling myself and you will remember as long as I keep telling you.

If this is what graffity communicates, then yes, I am much more interested in the design than 'what it says'.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on August 07, 2007, 04:15:40 pm
Good point. I never been a fan of graffiti on buildings and tagging up every wall that comes into your sight. There are places which imo are better suited for graffiti, like blank concrete walls, dull highway bridges and stuff like that. People who graf or tag onto nice old buildings or statues and stuff like that need to be smacked around the head.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on August 07, 2007, 04:56:43 pm
Dude aliased Mook got pretty (in)famous around Pittsburgh for tagging hard-to-reach places like the sides of bridges and overpasses and really high walls and stuff.

I dunno, I thought it was kind of relevant.

But as for graffiti, I really love the style (which I have tried and failed to emulate) and have fun trying to pick out words. Usually the style renders it illegible, but Chalk, I can read yours fine.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Chalk on August 07, 2007, 07:43:21 pm
it is very interesting to see your guys opinions on this.
there are many different kinds of graff which is a common misconception among most people. most people think all graffiti is tagging ( markers or straight can work to quickly put up your name ) or throw-ups ( bubblish letters usually 2-3 colors, and can be either the whole name or the commonly the first and last letter of the name. )
but of course there is the wild style where it can be impossible for the non graffer to read at all. but with much practice and understanding you will see excelent letter structure with logical extensions that do not distract from the letters.
as for me i tend to stick to 'mild' style where letters are not quite wild but are contorted but still with structure.
along with drawing the pieces i do go out and activly paint. I usually look for places no one will ever find except for perhaps another artist.
I am also very active in the stenciling world. where my placements are normaly bolder wich much more of an audience. I tend to do site-spesific designs where the stencil is designed for just that one location and is never painted again.

perhaps i should try to pixel my peices as it has been so long for me to wield a mouse.
and maybe i'll post some actuall painted pieces later.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rox on August 07, 2007, 08:16:57 pm
Well, Helm... That's what tagging is, yes.

Luckily, larger pieces aren't tags, so they usually don't serve the same purpose. Graffiti can be horribly ugly when people do it... wrong. Or out of selfishness. But when a real artist puts his piece on a strategically selected wall, it's artwork, and he paints it not for himself, but for people who are going to see it. I've seen both types, but they're both rare up here. Tags are pathetic cries for attention. But there are some full-wall pieces in a larger city I've been to a few times that continue to blow my mind. And they fit in. Not because it's junk in a junky neighborhood, it's a very tidy and pretty town. And in the middle of it, in an alley that's still very visible from one of the streets, there's a cascade of well-arranged colors in a vaguely letter-like patterns that people look at as they pass.

Me, I've had fun messing with the thought of being a graffiti artist for some time. But what really sparked it was when some kid, probably new in town, started painting these random white lines and curves on a couple of walls back in my old town. One of them was on the side of my apartment. Likewise, on a much more visible street here in my new town, there's a huge concrete wall where some youngsters have been writing offensive things about each other with spray paint.

Painting that stuff over with something that could actually resemble art just seems like a good thing to me. Hard to vandalize something that's already shock full with badly written insults.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Chalk on August 07, 2007, 08:27:59 pm
just some of my stuff.
(http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/5530/pillchalkci5.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/k_vandal/chalk_redpainted.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/k_vandal/splat_painted.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/k_vandal/em_4.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/k_vandal/em_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on August 07, 2007, 09:31:41 pm
yeah chalk I like your newly posted stuff, particularly the girl.  I still think in the first one, the additions to the C and the K make it read as *hal*, and only by knowing your sn can i see it.

the trouble I have with the people who go way out of their way to make it so that it is only clear to them is that they are often extremely pretentious (if you don't get the bends and breaks, you aren't as good as me).  I have this trouble with the majority of underground/counterculture, which thrives on the fact that they are just as arrogant and exclusive as the mainstream.  There are of course those in any field who are both genuine and talented, but these are regrettably few.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on August 07, 2007, 11:10:22 pm
I actually prefer the concept of graffiti as destruction of ownership, illegal and loving it, a sort of aesthetic guerilla warfare instead of this washed-up bullshit version of 'oh, our gray cities, let us make ART of them!'. Not just talking about tagging, but also the extravagantly drawn names like what chalk is posting. Who is to say I prefer the CHALK under the bridge by the brook when I hang there than the gray wall? The artist wouldn't care what I prefered of course, as well he shouldn't. His aim isn't to please me. Drawing something super-cool which still in the end reads 'My name' is pretty bankrupt in terms of communication, it's still your name. Obviously you're looking for some other effect by doing it: it's awesomely drawn, so now your name will be associated with your 'mad skillz'. It's not awesomely drawn to the effect that the art will have a profound effect on the lives of those that look at it. This is why children become attracted to the graffiti subculture (think about the demoscene connotations), because they realise this connection straight away: 'this is awesomely done - the person that did this is an awesome artist - I want to do this myself'. It's an ego show, an artificial field in which to excell and become the top dog.

Stencils I find usually carry much more meaning artistically than a word spelled in jaggy letters.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Sherman Gill on August 08, 2007, 12:10:40 am
Personally I much prefer ANYTHING to a grey concrete wall. If it's someones signature drawn in funny letters, so be it, I still like it better.
That said, I really love the last thing you posted, the can-ephone girl, and it makes me wish people would more often make graffiti that's not their name.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on August 08, 2007, 12:12:36 am
That's a stencil piece, I think.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Chalk on August 08, 2007, 12:14:56 am
Helm I'm still a little unclear how you feel about it. I have read your statement a few times. Maybe i'm just a dumbass but could you dumb it down a little for me?  :crazy:
Also for me it's not about ego trippin'. However when it comes to street art ( stencils ) I do try to do things that i find entertaining and will make even the general public like and appreciate. I also live in a place where is there almost no graffiti. well, good graff anyways as you can see by the walls that i feel should be covered in graffiti havent even had a drop of paint on them.
more stencils:
(http://www.stencilrevolution.com/photopost/data//501/boy_bucket.jpg)
(http://www.stencilrevolution.com/photopost/data//501/medium/west_st.jpg)
(http://www.stencilrevolution.com/photopost/data//501/bumbeach.jpeg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/k_vandal/bumbeach2.jpg)
(http://www.stencilrevolution.com/photopost/data//501/green_line.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/k_vandal/chimp1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/k_vandal/chimp2.jpg)
by the way that banana is 11 feet tall so you have a sense  of scale
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: .TakaM on August 08, 2007, 12:18:19 am
I feel like chiming in :P

Where I live, pretty much all the spots with grafitti had grafitti as long as I can remember, almost every week walking home from primary school there would be a new addition to the ally wall, I didn't mind it then and I don't now.
I like that within this 'subculture' there is a bit of respect and nostalgia, like if someone ever did a massive awesome piece on the wall, everyone he painted over didn't seem to mind, and rarely anyone would add their 3 random letter toy-tags to the end of his.

ofcourse there is plenty to hate, as I mentioned, I really can't stand the three letter tags done with shoe polish every suburban kid seems to be doing nowadays, it's annoying to walk down the street and see the same 3 letters on everybody's letter box.

nice stuff btw chalk, anything done with the aid of a concept reference is :y: in my books
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on August 08, 2007, 12:32:10 am
do you design your own stencils?  we're getting way off topic but until a moderator puts his foot down the convo is interesting.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Chalk on August 08, 2007, 12:49:12 am
yes this converstation is very interesting.
and I do design all my stencils, and if at all possible I try to take the photo i use for it. I use adobe illustrator.
the monkey i had to search high and low for pose i thought would work.
the little girl is one of my old roomates. the little boys are actually myself when i was 1. umbrella girl is a friend of mine. and the beach bum is also myself.
I could and would talk all day about my stencils. and graff in general. but i would say if you are looking to get into it
www.stencilrevolution.com (http://www.stencilrevolution.com)

Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on August 08, 2007, 01:18:17 am
Graffiti as illegal and potentially destructive activism is more interesting to me (to study as a social phenomenon, not because I like the art much either way) than as accepted art that soccer moms like now because it brings 'color to their towns'. I feel the latter mentality has neutered this subcolture of any significant social impact.

Stencils usually carry far more emotional strength for me, and the pieces you've posted above also do this.

I like your work, I suggest you use reference for reference, and draw your own stuff from the start, no tracing. I'm not sure what the attitude is towards these things in this subculture, but it's generally the best for any artist of any type to have his own strength, not borrow it from photographs. Reference is okay, copying is not.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zach on August 08, 2007, 03:23:20 am
just wait until the hackers get into a frenzy and start blowing up websites as their form of tagging.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Darien on August 08, 2007, 03:39:38 am
Helm, I find it a little odd that you don't like the ego tripping aspect of tagging, but seem to have some respect for the illegal aspect.  To me it always seemed that the illegal aspect was tied to the ego tripping--the artist effectively saying "look at me, I'm a rebel who doesn't care about law."
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Conzeit on August 08, 2007, 06:35:21 am
Chalk, I've never really cared for graffity at all, but the guy just cowering in the corner really clicked with me somehow, as did the little girl...if you do any more work like that please post it =)

EDIT:who am I to be putting words in the mouth of people....

Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ragnarok on August 08, 2007, 08:12:30 am
I'm not a huge graffiti fan, but quite a few of my friends are. My personal view on it is similar to Helm's: That it should be used for objection to political, enviromental, and cultural issues, rather than: 'OMG, a blank wall! Let's spray it with a three letter "tag" rather than actually put some time and effort into it!'
But yeah, I'm fine with motifs etc., just not the things that actually ruin the scenery. I was close to tears (well, sort of) when I found the same 'tag' all over the park. Trees, benches, nothing was spared. Then again, I take it that you live in the USA, so the grafitti culture over there might be a bit different to how it is over here.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on August 12, 2007, 01:31:05 am
It's nto much, but this topic shouldn't go untouched for so long >.<

(http://xs218.xs.to/xs218/07320/Milo.jpg)

Disinherited heir to the throne of a kingdom conquered years before he was born yada yada... Nephew of Roarc from Partisan TB
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on August 12, 2007, 02:43:28 am
(http://www.locustleaves.com/selfportrait3.png)

Half-finished. Based on photographic reference.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on August 12, 2007, 03:40:45 am
Nice thusfar, interesting brushwork.  The head seems a bit narrow though; at first i thought it was large eyes but no everything is in proportion except for the head itself.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on August 12, 2007, 04:24:45 am
Narrow? Strange, I'm not using a grid and I can't say my eyeballing is perfect but I don't think I'd screw up the width of my own head. If anything this is a bit more beautified than reality (one cannot help this when he's drawing himself I fear -- unless he's Schielle) but still proportionate. I'd chalk it up to having a realistic yet odd-shaped head if anything.

Once I'm more done I will post again, but I doublt the shape of the head will change.

The brushwork is a bit stupid for oils (in painter 9) since it's full opacity simple brush (no impasto) and then smaller brush for cross-hatching. I guess I'm trying to paint like I ink  :'( This is okay simply because it carries the lented strength that you get when working from photo. Applying the same technique to something done from imagination would show all my regular oil rendering shortcomings I fear. Still, I'm allowed to feel nice about myself once in a while by cheating, I guess...


Your image: shins too long, upper arms extremely overlong. Keep brain running every step of the way when you structure the human body.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Conzeit on August 12, 2007, 05:45:05 am
what's with the caption, where are you displaying this image?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on August 12, 2007, 01:46:44 pm
croquis are not intended to be anatomically correct (in fact, by the book it is demanded they be incorrect), but i should work on keeping anatomy straight even in pictures where i don't care about it.  Away from realism my attention to such things just goes to pot, and the fact that fashion sketches are supposed to be wrong isn't really a fantastic excuse, since many fashion designers are only modest artists :P

I stick by the narrow description, particularly as I do not remember photographs of your head making it seem overly slim or delicate, particularly around the chin, which in this has been forced into a very harsh angle.  Usually turning a pece of artowrk upside-down lets people see proportions better, but in this case I think it helps to turn your rightside-up.  Pull it to 105-107% and see if it doesn't look a little more like it ought.

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The brushwork is a bit stupid for oils (in painter 9) since it's full opacity simple brush (no impasto) and then smaller brush for cross-hatching. I guess I'm trying to paint like I ink  Cry This is okay simply because it carries the lented strength that you get when working from photo. Applying the same technique to something done from imagination would show all my regular oil rendering shortcomings I fear. Still, I'm allowed to feel nice about myself once in a while by cheating, I guess...

If you like, just call it a tempera piece.  You would have needed to have spent far too much time and money aquiring and mixing and keeping wet such volumes of the paint, but it looks much more like egg tempera than oils.  Econmoic? Call it gauche :P.  Computers can do that pretty easily since real painting is pretty much nothing like digital.  It's all just manipulation of pixels and even good programs can only simulate a tiny fraction of what goes on.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on August 12, 2007, 03:47:25 pm
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but i should work on keeping anatomy straight even in pictures where i don't care about it.

Yes.

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what's with the caption, where are you displaying this image?

It's a reference to something else that is similar. This is the first place - and only, as usual- I've posted it.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Evil-Ville on August 12, 2007, 04:59:45 pm
Did you just use img tags to quote? That boggles my mind.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on August 12, 2007, 06:23:12 pm
Fixed. I am sorry, I am tired.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on August 13, 2007, 04:59:57 am
I don't think I'd screw up the width of my own head.
What about your avatar?  nyuk nyuk nyuk nyuk nyuk... :crazy:
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Froli on August 13, 2007, 01:34:18 pm
Hiho Helm! are you using Painter because it's easy to use/got used to it or just prefer it? Is it better than other painting programs like open canvas or Adobe photoshop?

I'm also curious what program do you usually use for illustration Adarias :D

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on August 13, 2007, 01:39:27 pm
I think Adarias mainly uses a program called Traditional Media.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on August 13, 2007, 01:53:23 pm
Yeah, that's why you don't see much of my stuff since I no longer have a camera or a color scanner (so only tiny, black and white images come through :P)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Froli on August 13, 2007, 01:56:56 pm
No wonder it really looks different haha, great stuff there man :)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: SplatPixel on August 13, 2007, 02:03:40 pm
some ninja heads... :blind:

(http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/1127/ninjaheadscolorzv3.jpg)

Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on August 13, 2007, 02:11:10 pm
That last one has a VERY odd hairline.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on August 13, 2007, 02:35:35 pm
a bit high, but not unheard of. or do you mean the line itself? (zigzags don't usually happen)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on August 13, 2007, 03:58:05 pm
I meant the zigzag shape.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on August 13, 2007, 05:57:21 pm
(http://Hiho Helm! are you using Painter because it's easy to use/got used to it or just prefer it? Is it better than other painting programs like open canvas or Adobe photoshop?)

I decided to use painter because it's 'realistic looking' heh, but in the end I drew in such a constrained fashion on it that I could have just as well made that piece of art in photoshop or open canvas or whatever. Just a single opaque brush of various sizes. I can't tell if Painter is more awesome because I am not good at using it.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on August 13, 2007, 06:35:08 pm
It has a definate learning curve and much of what people turn out does look just like regular CG, but someone using it to it's fullest potential can turn out wonderful stuff.  Still though, real life is always capable of better work.  Painter saves the mess and the cost, but it will never be paint.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ptoing on August 14, 2007, 10:46:49 am
I also find that lots of stuff in painter just is shite that you do not need at all. The watercolour tool just looks ugly as hell and is complicated to use with the watercolour layers. Digital watercolour on the other hand looks nicer and is not slow as fuck. Impasto as well, yeuch!
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: junkboy on August 15, 2007, 11:21:49 pm
Some doodles from a project that will never see the light of day.

(http://i10.tinypic.com/4z8rxow.jpg)
(http://i11.tinypic.com/6exemwk.jpg)
(http://i16.tinypic.com/5zpnwiv.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on August 16, 2007, 03:03:02 am
never see the light of day.
:(

awesome stuff. I've always liked the style like that found in the first pic.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Stwelin on August 16, 2007, 03:27:49 am
Delicious, Junk.

In the first one, the rightmost building, it struck me weird with those windows integrated into a roof with shingles like that, i have trouble grasping how that would work, i guess they could be cut to fit, but i figured what kept them insulated was the fact that they overlap the way they do, and cutting them to make room for windows would sacrafice that... Perhaps they are just decoratice, perhaps i am thinking too hard.

In any case, allover great work. Make a graphic novel now please. =)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on August 16, 2007, 05:05:04 am
Nice stuff, would benefit from varied lineweight but it's still very attractive.  Tablet I assume?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: AdamAtomic on August 16, 2007, 06:51:33 am
really nice, junk!  i disagree about the lineweight thing for this particular style, i would rather see a little more attention paid to the density of the linework in areas that are supposed to be dark - push the overall values a little bit more.  beautiful!
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: HMC on August 16, 2007, 03:23:48 pm
Some doodles:

(http://dylanimages.googlepages.com/therentalsdoodle.gif)

(http://dylanimages.googlepages.com/billyblazeangst.gif)

Need to work on those arms.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryan Cordel on August 16, 2007, 07:27:50 pm
.. Is that last one Commander Keen? O.o
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: HMC on August 16, 2007, 07:33:51 pm
Indeed, it is. I just figured it was always kinda weird that one of the main goals in the first game was to find a bottle of everclear.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Jad on August 18, 2007, 05:39:15 pm
Junkboy, vad i helvete!

All of your pictures have this CRAZY kind of atmosphere to them. Like the 'comfortable girl in sunshine on ship deck'-picture, when I try to remember it, I remember it in full color.

Because, well, it's just ... colorful. Though it is in black and white. Completely wonderful.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: fawel on August 19, 2007, 12:57:36 am
Junkboy, I thought your images looked a lot like Miyazaki's style, which is a really great thing!  I found an image from the Nausicaa manga series to compare :)

(http://www.narbonic.com/nausicaa.jpg)

I think that if you, like the others said, push the lineweight, you'd improve a lot.  GReat stuff ;D
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Stwelin on August 19, 2007, 04:24:20 am
Miyazaki's seems to emphasize shadows more, he has a lot more areas of really dense lines creating contrast, but yes, the styles do seem similar in some respects. Nausicaa is amazing, i loved the movie as well.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Obsidantion on August 19, 2007, 08:21:04 pm
I've made some midis with "Midi Maker", thought I would post on here.
http://files-upload.com/files/444291/Midis.rar
Most of them aren't complete tunes.

Oh and here is a compilation of two games I've programmed with Visual Basic;
Minesweeper and Tetris. The graphics are poor, sorry!
http://files-upload.com/files/444832/Games.rar
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Froli on August 19, 2007, 09:36:25 pm
Those are beatiful stuff Junkboy. Any tips with cross hatching? eheh :)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on August 19, 2007, 10:53:29 pm
Those pieces don't have any cross-hatching.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Xion on August 20, 2007, 12:42:31 am
They have hatching though...right? Is there even such a thing as hatching?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on August 20, 2007, 01:25:58 am
Yes.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Froli on August 20, 2007, 03:55:05 am
Those pieces don't have any cross-hatching.

I think I saw him using it on Conan and the one with reptilian creature, probably I'm mistaken. If i remember correctly you have a lot of experience with hatching/cross hatching.
Do you have some rules when using it? like the directions of the lines or just do them randomly depending on the shadows. I'm currently studying some basic anatomy and want to apply this technique.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on August 20, 2007, 04:01:50 am
if you are learning anatomy, don't start with hatching and cross-hatching, it's really only for people who've gotten to an advanced understanding of the geometries.  Try regular blending or better yet cross-contour shading to begin with.  When you can sculpt a convincing form, then try cross-hatching.  fi you jump in too early it will just be a mess.

EDIT: the reason being that lines enhance forms, so if you don't already understand which way the forms are oriented, you'll end up creating forms you never intended, or worse - no forms at all (too many conflicting lines).
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Chalk on August 20, 2007, 04:38:51 am
a kid had me write DOMAIN in his room

sketch
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/k_vandal/doma2.jpg)
then i painted
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/k_vandal/mepainting1.jpg)
then i finish
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/k_vandal/domainpainted.jpg)
then you pose like a gangsta
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/k_vandal/chalkpose.jpg)


and have a sketch ready for the next wall you want
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/k_vandal/chalk_tbf.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Froli on August 20, 2007, 04:45:55 am
if you are learning anatomy, don't start with hatching and cross-hatching, it's really only for people who've gotten to an advanced understanding of the geometries.  Try regular blending or better yet cross-contour shading to begin with.  When you can sculpt a convincing form, then try cross-hatching.  fi you jump in too early it will just be a mess.

EDIT: the reason being that lines enhance forms, so if you don't already understand which way the forms are oriented, you'll end up creating forms you never intended, or worse - no forms at all (too many conflicting lines).

Alright, I'll keep that in mind.  thanks :)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on August 20, 2007, 09:41:09 am
ink rendering 'types' should always come last. First you learn to approach volumes with something that can actually produce levels (like a pencil, or ink wash, or charcoal) until you're pretty good at that. High-contrast inking is a small art-form in itself, and then bridging the white and the black with lots of little lines is the last step.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: dragonrc on August 20, 2007, 02:35:35 pm
Based on one of my earlier pixels. (this one: http://pixeljoint.com/pixelart/21697.htm )
(http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/5568/duckletbluebackcn7.png)
Drawn and colored with a pencil. Did some tweaking in Jasc Paint Shop Pro 7, but not very much.
My first real pencil drawing, usually I only make doodles but I've put more effort in this piece.
Oh, and the piece looks a bit blueish but I blame my lousy scanner >:(
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on August 21, 2007, 05:13:37 am
Just a sketch, believe it or not i didn't even notice the right arm was not there until i reviewed my post >.< :

(http://xs218.xs.to/xs218/07342/ParisSketch.jpg)

Jacket based on an item from Daniel V's final Runway collection.

I'm not actually sure of the name, the original character was male and written as Paris, which was struck out for being too troy (although oddly enough, it was a Shakespeare reference).  The gender of the character was switched and the name changed to Olivia, but it later occurred to me that a female Paris still gets to have the Shakespeare reference without reminding anyone of orlando bloom (or maybe she does?  He's not the world's most masculine man....

I don't think anyone here cares about spoilers for an indie role-playing game that will not come out for 3 years but
She has the most spectacular death scene except for the main villain, blows up her own ship with enough explosives to almost kill King James.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Jad on August 21, 2007, 08:27:17 am
I like it, though, I feel that her arm might be a tad long. If you stretched it out into its full length, her hand would almost touch her knee, arms aren't that long, are they?

Plus, she has no butt :( But that's not an error, it's just a matter of personal preference for me. (though her legs feel a bit short compared to her quite tall torso, a problem I also make when drawing stuff :\ IRL, I have quite a long torso compared to the length of my legs, something always present in my drawings. People tend to draw themselves into their drawings, something which is interesting :>)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on August 21, 2007, 03:58:35 pm
As usual I wasn't paying attention as it's a character sketch, not a piece of artwork, but in this case I have to wonder, do I measure things wrong? http://xs218.xs.to/xs218/07342/ParisSketch2.jpg (http://xs218.xs.to/xs218/07342/ParisSketch2.jpg)

I realize that i should have pulled the stomach in earlier and played up the hip line that comes through, but aside from that and her being practically anorexic I'm not seeing anything particularly wrong?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: AdamAtomic on August 21, 2007, 04:28:58 pm
her elbow and hand are at almost exactly the correct relative heights...except her arm is bent.  Which means if it was hanging straight, her elbow would be almost at her crotch, and her hands would like jad sad practically reach her knees!

aside from that i think its really pretty :P  you guys should print an artbook for the game, these are exactly the kinds of rough sketches that i love to see accompanying the more chibified pixel art.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on August 21, 2007, 04:48:48 pm
goddamnit, overwrote the version i meant to post with lines drawn in.

http://xs218.xs.to/xs218/07342/ParisSketch3.jpg (http://xs218.xs.to/xs218/07342/ParisSketch3.jpg)

used pure rotation to pull the arm down and I just don't see them getting anywhere near the knee even with the shoulder sloping down on that side.  I'd need to increase the length of the arms in the neighborhood of 20-25% for them to be that long.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: gliding on August 21, 2007, 05:14:35 pm
I dunno, it still looks wonky to me, the length that the arm appears to be makes it seem as if I'd have to dislocate my shoulder to imitate those proportions. I'm also not a real fan of the buttlessness of the character- weren't women larger around this time period? I might be mistaken.

EDIT: the dislocated feeling might be  due to the combination of the shoulder pads and the low elbow on that side. Maybe you should just nix the whole slanted idea in this perspective for clarity's sake. I love the actual artwork though.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: AdamAtomic on August 21, 2007, 05:43:46 pm
(http://adam.lastchancemedia.com/sprites/paris_edit.gif)

Lasso + rotated in photoshop

I think the arm is way too long :P  more the forearm than the upper arm, but they both need adjustments IMO

EDIT - haha i just realized you included a similar change as an overlay in your linked image :P  I missed it, I was focused on the hashes and circle.  Regardless, even in your overlay, her hand goes down WAY too far, unless I am just perceiving the shape and location of her hips completely wrong.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on August 21, 2007, 06:09:55 pm
(http://weren't women larger around this time period?)

royalty wore bustles in their dresses to increase their behinds, peasants were starving.  I don't think the common woman had much of an ass except in paintings where robust figures were glorified, and certainly not larger than today where people do far less physical work and most girls in their teens and twenties are slim but out of shape (not in a bad way).

Adam- I'm not sure where your crotch is, but it's always been on line with the wrist, not the knuckles.  When you rotated too you dropped the elbow considerably: place a circle tangential to both elbow positions and observe where your center is, it's lowered and brought left yielding a very different slide than would happen with just moving the shoulder.  You also must have piano hands, from the stock of the wrist to the knuckle is equal to the length of the longest finger.  By this, the hand ends up right where it should be transposed just slightly down by the shoulders.

(http://xs218.xs.to/xs218/07342/Blortaa.png)

I don't doubt that you perceive an issue here, and perceived issues are just as damaging as real ones, but your measurements don't show what you want them to.

If this were meant to be displayed i would go back and edit because everyone has the same problems even if they don't physically break any rules.  Of course, this is just a costume sketch for nobody but me to work from, so ill just leave it and recognize the issues for next time (hopefully :P).
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on August 21, 2007, 07:44:39 pm
As far as my knowledge goes, Adam's measurements are both correct and do outline the problem with that hand. I have long hands and at a relaxed pose wrists are about at the end of my crotch (though not completely there) but as I said, I have long arms. The anatomical guide I have on my wall (you should do the same) says an open, relaxed arm is about where Adam places it. It's not only a percieved fault in your measurement, it's an actual, valid issue.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on August 21, 2007, 08:16:41 pm
As far as my knowledge goes, Adam's measurements are both correct

And I take that seriously enough to have been checking this all morning with mirrors, measuring tapes, rules, and compasses searching for the measurements to prove it IS impossible  but I still disagree.  This is no longer perception on my part, it's reading off of tools - I'd be more than willing to accept the issue are real rather than perceived if the measurements came out differently and that my vision is not perfect, hell, I've even seen what is perceived as the issue before it was mentioned - but you can't say that my ruler is broken, that photoshop cannot paste properly, that my mirror distorts from all angle, that my camera does likewise, etc.

I stand by the fact that it's an awkward, misleading but easily possible pose that fools the eye into think it's wrong.  I think it's fascinating that the eye sees broken where tools see working - it adds a bizarre new (new to me) angle to artwork that just doing things by measurements can turn out visually broken figures.

(http://xs218.xs.to/xs218/07342/wierd2.jpg)

You can't just put down lines that show what you eyes want to see and call them measurements, you'll prove anything that way.

What's perhaps even more interesting is how closely people focus on one issue without pointing out others.  we've covered the left arm shoulder to finger and nobody has yet pointed out that the right arm could not possibly be long enough to hold that rifle AND not be seen from this angle - she needs to be reaching out at least a little in front of her for any hope of actually grasping it.



EDIT : there is one possibility that perhaps makes this seem most strange with is that all of my measurements are taken off of myself - a youth about 4-5 years younger than this girl and of the wrong gender.  Still, this should make my arms shorter - not longer - than hers, and I can easily touch the top of my knee moving "only" my shoulders (the ribs do realign a bit too.)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: gliding on August 21, 2007, 08:31:25 pm
Honestly, I see it as counterproductive to push the wagon on something that just looks wrong. It's possible for a lot of things to occur, but in this case your pose is much to awkward for the mood and state of this piece. Measurements or not, it looks wonky and awkward in an unpleasant way.

meh I don't think that's coming off how i'd like it to.
What I really mean is that it takes away from the piece. Yeah, I think that's closer to my view on it.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on August 21, 2007, 08:35:49 pm
What I really mean is that it takes away from the piece.

I never denied that :P

My point is that the fact that we all see something correct as being horribly wrong is fascinating.

BTW: do costume sketches have a "mood" ? ^^
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Feron on August 21, 2007, 08:37:22 pm
hmmm at first i thought adam was right... but on closer inspection i have to agree with adarias...

(http://pixelheart.net/123.jpg)

it still looks a bit wrong adarias, perhaps you need a better pose for that arm that makes it look more "right"...
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: gliding on August 21, 2007, 08:45:57 pm
What I really mean is that it takes away from the piece.

BTW: do costume sketches have a "mood" ? ^^

I'd assume that when looking at the entire sketch (as most do even in costume sketches), you could definately find a mood:

i.e From the way she's standing alone you can see tell whether she's angry or upset or whether she's strong or weak. I'm sure you already know this.

edited for clarity

 The mood I see in this picture is calm and serene which is in contrast to the awkward pose.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on August 21, 2007, 08:47:37 pm
Adarias, the wrist lines up roughly to a few cm above the end of the crotch. The arm in your drawing is well below that line. Therefore the arm is too long as far as I can tell. Your photoshop explanation doesn't help to dissuade me of this. I am not sure what you're trying to show to be exact. I agree reality-in-drawing can look broken, this isn't such a case however.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on August 21, 2007, 10:24:42 pm
Hmm, i think there must be variation in this.  My wrists (and, i was an ass and asked all of my family members to stand) are a few cm below the base of the crotch, not above (so this just proves the old rule that the wrist is about on line with the crotch).  Add in the slope of the shoulders and the arm is a fine length.  Anyhow, if the photoshop doesn't do it for you, all I can suggest is that you buy a compass.  As far as my point goes, you are working from estimation and speculation, where I am working from measurements, which only proves my point that it looks broken when it's not. 

Use proper measurements to show it's not correct and I'll change my opinion, but just stating things that aren't true about all wrists doesn't convince of anything (are you measuring from the end of the genitals and not the actual crotch? certainly those are lower, but this girl has no penis).  The way I see the current logic :

My wrist hangs at this level, therefor a wrist can possibly hang at this level.
Your wrist hangs at that level, therefor all wrists must hang at that level.

Which sounds more accurate?


Another great example I must come back to - look at that recent one you did with the head that is just too narrow (or too tall for itself, but it's the same sort of thing)
http://xs218.xs.to/xs218/07343/Rightside.JPG (http://xs218.xs.to/xs218/07343/Rightside.JPG)
This is the same phenomenon played in reverse, the eye wants it to be right but it's broken.  And you made a great point, it's your own face, so you should know how it ought to look!  I'm realizing here that vision and art are just plain silly this way and it's damnably hard to correct for it.

Just to be safe, i wish to restate that I think the arm look bad and always have since scanning.  My point isn't that people should draw arms this way, it's that perception is highly varied and not always correct.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: AdamAtomic on August 21, 2007, 10:50:00 pm
Generally speaking, on most people in a relaxed pose, the wrist is above the bottom of the crotch (disregarding genitalia), on both men and women.  I've not found any real humans or any anatomy guidelines or diagrams that disagree with this.  Are there exceptions?  Probably.  Are they exceptions?  Yes.  Some people have enormous heads, or tiny hands.  But if you draw your people that way, they're going to look like they have enormous heads, or tiny hands, and people will probably go "wow look at that huge head," or, alternatively "whoa those hands look small."  Not talking about this piece in particular, as it is just a fashion guid, but I feel like this discussion has drifted away from that piece and toward anatomy guidelines in general anyways.  There's a separate issue here about expectations about perfect proportions in any/all characters...but there is also a legitimate issue about the amount of deviation that is acceptable in the proportions of a healthy human!
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on August 21, 2007, 10:59:44 pm
Ignore the fact that you just said my whole family was strange :P I'm just going to reiterate - this drawing looks BAD but that doesn't make the proportions impossible.  I'm not going to say (and haven't ever said) "from now on I'm going to draw all of my people awkwardly imperfect," because you're all right, that's crippling.  You've essentially restated what has always been my position since before posting the piece.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faceless on August 22, 2007, 12:08:59 am
Not to worry Adarias, according to the relative position of my wrist to my body, I'm strange too. :P

(http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/5980/74194204rz5.jpg)
I think the proportions on this are a bit closer to normal.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Tarenken on August 22, 2007, 03:56:40 am
god, this thread makes me feel like the worst artist ever. XD
well, anyways, here's an unfinished piece of two characters from my book.
http://xs218.xs.to/xs218/07342/amezora.jpg (http://xs218.xs.to/xs218/07342/amezora.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on August 22, 2007, 04:26:46 am
Hmm, i think there must be variation in this.

Of course there is. But this is akin to the old 'I ment it to be like that, I didn't make a mistake!' rollback stance when someone gets critique. That arm, according to most idealized anatomy guides, is long. When someone told you, you said that you weren't paying attention because this is a costume illo, which we both know is not a good practise anyway. But then you went and defended that there are people with longish arms, and therefore this is fine. Well you can draw whatever you like even if it doesn't exist in real life and it'll be fine. It's only in relation to the idealised anatomy guide that this is wrong, and the unsaid premise is that you have not yet mastered drawing from the idealised anatomy guide and therefore would do well to manage this before you break out the long-arm variations. You may have an anatomical fault, the tendency to draw humans with longer arms than ideal, and you should pay attention to this rather than justify it thinly (even if thin is thick).

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Add in the slope of the shoulders and the arm is a fine length.

The slope of the shoulder and some minute foreshortening due to perspective would help yes, but still too long as far as I can tell!

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As far as my point goes, you are working from estimation and speculation, where I am working from measurements, which only proves my point that it looks broken when it's not.

One could work from the measurements of a dwarf, but if they didn't intend to draw a dwarf, or if people didn't understand they were drawing a dwarf but a human instead and found the anatomy odd, would there be a similar issue? When you drew this, you weren't working from measurements, you were working without any. After the fact, you now present that your arms are indeed that long (okay) but that doesn't change that this picture wasn't introduced within any context of having been drawn to mirror your physique or any extraordinary physique for that matter. Even for skinny fashion models, that arm is long!

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Use proper measurements to show it's not correct and I'll change my opinion

Proper measurements of a human being you mean? alright

(http://www.locustleaves.com/measurement.png)

Note that as I said, I have long arms.

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but just stating things that aren't true about all wrists doesn't convince of anything

Do you need convincing that the customary ideal human anatomy grid places hands? Okay. This is on my wall:

(http://www.locustleaves.com/abstract.png) (note that this is not even a relaxed position of the arm. This is full extend, both of the upper arm and the fingers.

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(are you measuring from the end of the genitals and not the actual crotch? certainly those are lower, but this girl has no penis).

W...what? Then these girls I've been with were...

uh

um.

I'm measuring from the end of the crotch, regardless of package.

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My wrist hangs at this level, therefor a wrist can possibly hang at this level.
Your wrist hangs at that level, therefor all wrists must hang at that level.

Which sounds more accurate?

Correction:

Your wrists measures thusly.
Ideal anatomy wrists usually measure thusly.
Without pretext, you present an image that measures as your wrists measure (take a relaxed arms stance photo by the way)
and then you are surprised when people complain that it doesn't measure like ideal wrists measure.


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Another great example I must come back to - look at that recent one you did with the head that is just too narrow (or too tall for itself, but it's the same sort of thing)

You are not taking into account lens distortion, perspective foreshortening and most of all, the pulled hair that on both of the RL pics obstruct the real shape of the face. I have a long face (http://www.locustleaves.com/shave/normal.png).

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This is the same phenomenon played in reverse, the eye wants it to be right but it's broken.  And you made a great point, it's your own face, so you should know how it ought to look!  I'm realizing here that vision and art are just plain silly this way and it's damnably hard to correct for it.

But even-so, you've not established that you were drawing yourself here (whereas I clearly was). You were drawing a thin man-girl for a video-game. It's good to keep your premises consistent.

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Just to be safe, i wish to restate that I think the arm look bad and always have since scanning.  My point isn't that people should draw arms this way, it's that perception is highly varied and not always correct.

I am fine with this point, as long as you're fine with the point that this arm is overlong in relation to the idealized construction of the human body. Or if you're not we can discuss that more, but these are two separate issues. Anyway, Helm out.


edit: for what it's worth, the biggest mistake in that sketch isn't the length of the arm but the placement of the knee

(http://www.locustleaves.com/ParisSketch.png)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on August 22, 2007, 04:33:17 am
alright, so the issue was your ideal vs my possible.  Misunderstanding on my part :P

Nobody else drew anything today?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: gliding on August 22, 2007, 04:35:03 am
lmao nope, too busy reading :P
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on August 22, 2007, 04:40:33 am
No if your wrist falls below your crotch I'd really like to see some photos. Also some of these 'women without penis' you were talking about  :-[
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on August 22, 2007, 04:47:42 am
does anyone know how to get a nokia phone to send pictures to an email account?  We are most certainly of very different proportions (I actually know that my torso is short, when I sit down I am rather low regardless of posture yet I always need to back the seat up in my car after my sister of literally the same height in inches (according to the doctors) has driven it....[/ot]

as for women without penises, i just moved to The Village and might have trouble........

BTW put those two photos of yourself over each other, sliding opacity back and forth, and (forgetting about size and placement of features, which is also very very different) tell me your skull isn't wider, particularly on the mid-line, with much more space between and to the side of the eyes..  (actually, if you do, I'll know that you're not measuring right :P, i'd upload but the file is too large)

PS I hope this is the only time in my life I am kept awake in the middle of the night thinking about the face of a man at least half my age my senior.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on August 22, 2007, 06:23:52 am
Actually as I didn't measure anything but used a photo for eyeballing, there's bound to be errors in sizes etc, but preserving the anima of the piece was the main priority.

Keep thinking of me.  :-*
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on August 22, 2007, 01:52:28 pm
Yeah the big difference between the two pieces is that yours looks good and mine looks awkward :P
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on August 23, 2007, 08:19:09 am
one of the first times ive been completely satisfied with a piece. i spent 7 hours on this. are some parts over rendered? yes. are there things that need fixing? yes. But for once i can look at this and say i did my best on something. the photo doesnt do it justice at all though :/
(http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/2681/img0698gy2.jpg)
im happy, it feels good to be so satisfied with a piece.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Malor on August 23, 2007, 11:41:06 am
Wow Ryumaru, that is really sweet. The arm is ink? anyways a nice mix of your usual demon stuff, with a self portrait thing.. at least I assume it's a self portrait because it looks like you...
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: gliding on August 23, 2007, 12:49:21 pm
lol, some parts might be underendered in comparison to everything else- but I love this and I'm glad you're satisfied Ryu :)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on August 24, 2007, 12:08:49 am
Mallor: yes its a self portrait, the arm is prismacolor pencil. the dark portion to the bottom right is aswell but i mashed too hard with the pencil so instead of black i got a shiny silver color that refrlects light.
gliding: hah, thanks man. : D
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Scuba Steve on August 24, 2007, 05:17:45 pm
Hay guys... I don't know how many people still visit pixelation that I would know... but if they are here... Nice to see you again.  One of the most frustrating things for me lately has been the lack of time to draw... particularly pixel.  Being a member here, years ago, I honed my skills and really improved and stretched myself to become a better artists... not just pixel artist.  I've had some tough time finding work, but hopefully it will pick up.  In the mean time, a friend contracted me to do a comic book piece about their wedding... since her husband loved comics.  I obliged since it was a chance to push myself to find time to draw.  It was a bit rushed for time... but I was really happy with how it turned out.  When I was done, I stepped back and noticed a lot of anatomical issues I didn't like (Breasts, some facial features)... but regardless... it was the first time in a long while that I attempted a piece this big (17x22).  It is just ink on paper.

http://action.mancubus.net/files/weddingcomic.jpg

I always got really good critiques on Pixelation... which is why I always came back :P  Tear it up... but do note that it's not going to be changed... but I will note it for further study.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Rox on August 25, 2007, 09:08:11 am
Suddenly, ninjas!

I love that. A wedding with ninjas and guns and swords. Can't put more love than that in a single room. I'm afraid I can't tear it up much, though, the only thing I noticed was the stuff you already mentioned (anatomy mostly). But hey, it's good to see you again, I kinda end up missing your... zany... scubaness...
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Silver on August 26, 2007, 11:08:06 am
I love that comic page steve. Also Ryumaru you did awesome job with that picture.
Anyways here is a sketch that is a part of series I did. Subject is "Teror"
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c220/Spixel3/Digital%20art/Terorist2.gif)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Sampe on August 26, 2007, 04:34:27 pm
Looking good, Silver, but the arms are way too small. :o
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Silver on August 27, 2007, 10:06:23 am
Yeah. I noticed that but I cant fix it now since it's a black pen sketche  :blind:
Thanks anyway.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: HMC on August 28, 2007, 03:09:21 pm
I told my friend I would draw her whatever she wants since it's her birthday next week.

Her: and Bill Murray was arrested for drunk driving in a golf cart.
Her: WHICH IS SO LIKE HIM
Her: OH GOD
Her: DRAW THAT!
Me: Aha
Her: with a terrified Porygon in the passenger's seat
Me: Haha okay
Me: Is that YOU'RE FINAL ANSWER?
Her: OH HE MUST BE BEING CHASED BY THE PARTY VAN
Her: FINAL ANSWER, REGIS.

(http://dylanimages.googlepages.com/billmurrayporygonpartyvan.png)

I'll probably tweak the background before I show it to her. But whatever. Here it is now.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zach on August 28, 2007, 06:55:01 pm
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/ser1.jpg)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/ser2.jpg)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/ser3.jpg)

ryu: can I have a print of that!?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on August 28, 2007, 09:56:31 pm
In the mean time, a friend contracted me to do a comic book piece about their wedding... since her husband loved comics.  I obliged since it was a chance to push myself to find time to draw.  It was a bit rushed for time... but I was really happy with how it turned out.  When I was done, I stepped back and noticed a lot of anatomical issues I didn't like (Breasts, some facial features)... but regardless... it was the first time in a long while that I attempted a piece this big (17x22).  It is just ink on paper.

http://action.mancubus.net/files/weddingcomic.jpg

I always got really good critiques on Pixelation... which is why I always came back :P  Tear it up... but do note that it's not going to be changed... but I will note it for further study.

Hello.

I will segment my critique in two sides. Storytelling/pace is one, and draftmanship/anatomy the other. In places they overlap, but it's easier to look at it like this. First the storytelling critique:

This is a husband and wife, so we should see both their faces by the first few panels, not just the girl and the guy only at the end of it. You have relatively little space to establish the characters, so starting with the back of the head of the husband really doesn't work. For example, in the dead space under the 'holy matremony' panel, I'd add a profile shot of the two lovebirds longingly looking into each other's eyes a bit more, so we could see the husband as well, and we can know he's returning her affection.

This is a problem generally with this page. There's wasted space. It's an often-encountered mark of people who don't draw a lot of comics, to not know how to keep their panels only to the relevant and to achieve a flow. The first thing I'd suggest is to not play with 'artful' sequencing until you have the oldschool 'pictures in panels, gaps between the panels' down right. The gap between the panel signifies sequence, and time passed. Right now this is a collage of images, much less a comic. The drama of the ninja entrance is undermined by the drowsy dream-like pace that a borderless comic page always has going about it. This is a strength for dream-like recollection pages and such, but it's not good for snappy action.

The middle sequence with the chapel is the better one. The ninjas come from the left, they lead the eye, the scene is established (a bit of background in the first panel would be best to at least foreshadow the scenery, but alright, I can understand wanting to focus on faces.) However, the panels aren't placed in a sensible manner. The eye reads the first strip of the comic and then it is called on the ninja on middle left, as well it should (that's how westerners read comics). However, the panel is rotating clockwise and pulls the eyes over to the right edge of middle panel. This creates reading confusion. You struggle to understand the visual input, but the words get in the way. This is anathema for comics. The panel should follow the action. I'd place 'for better and for worse' under the left ninja, leave 'in sickness and in health' where it is and put 'til death do you apart' on the third row where the ninja underlines the severity of the situation.

Now, the third row would best be three panels, not two. One, ninja face, two, the dramatic pose of the couple serving as empty anticipation beat, and then a last panel of the couple entering the fray against the ninjas with 'we do' underneath it as the punchline.

The space is underused. 4 panels for a big-ass page like this creates a very slow pace that doesn't fit action. Small panels for small happenings is a good rule to keep in mind. Not too much, but not so little either. Right now it's almost a collection of drawings, it doesn't have pace cohesion, and that's one of the worst things that can happen to an action comic page.

That's it about structure. About the drawings:

I feel in lack of fundamental study, you've devised some personal artistic tropes on how to draw human faces that you might or might not be comfortable with, but which for me as the viewer feel upsetting. The girl's face is unattractive to me, and checking on the last panel where you drew the guy too, they share facial characteristics. I am led to believe that this isn't so much a likeness issue, but how you draw human faces. In which case, I can only suggest fundamental training in facial structure. There aren't many ways about this, as far as I'm concerned. Style will come after you've gotten a good grip in representing reality.

Anatomically, most figures are stiff or out of balance, but the ninjas and couple in the last strip suffer the most. The woman's prominent leg is misshapen, the knee disconnected and the ancle nonexistent. You know about the breast placement. The sword-weilding arm is a collection of contrasting curves in a 'batman animated series' fashion, which however masks a lack of understanding of the muscular structure of a real arm. You can stylize, and simplify, when you know how to render realistically first. The dude is better on the whole, though there's some priority mess-up on his far leg/edge of dress where the eye can't make out what's going on very well. The hand holding the sword is totally invented. You should take pictures of your hand holding something and abstract from there, not from memory. The way you drew the open mouths on the couple in the last frame is frankly a bit disconcerting for me, it stretches believability to the point of being unsettling. That we have two face shots of the girl and she's in the same angle and almost the same facial expression (besides the eyebrows) doesn't represent her emotional range as well as it could be doing in the space of a big comic page. This is about them, right? About how happy and determined they are to be together. We don't see this much in the comic right now. What we see is that they're about to kick some ninja ass, and that's a good punchline on its own, but it could be much better.

The ninja on the last panel isn't looking at the couple, he looks distracted, we feel distracted as well. If it's ment to be a separate panel, then draw the brackets. Fancy 'breaking glass' panels and stuff are to be used very sparingly and only when you have a good hold on the pace and are enforcing it. This isn't happening here.

Perspective and construction is improvised, but not terribly. The problem is that the chapel scene looks amateurish, not broken. Everything's where it's supposed to be more or less, but it's that 'more or less' that hurts this. You should have constructed with proper vanishing points and a ruler. At least for the pencilling. You could free-hand the inking if you wanted it to not look too clynical. And yes, you'd have to look for chapel references online, but that's how you become a better artist. Not to say that the currect chapel is bereft of relevant props, you've done pretty well.

On the rendering front, your black and white contrast spaces are okay, mostly. You're using the wrong types of hatching for the wrong surfaces. linear strokes for face shadows make faces look tired and strung-out, and hair looks made out of fabric on the girl. You should invest some time in learning and controlling line width variation to create more lively figures that pop out of the backgrounds. At some cases, compact lines are fine, if backed by bodies of darkness (the groom's suit in the last panel) but not so much when they separate white from white (the woman's silluette in the last panel). The way you rendered the ninja face on the last strip is the place where your choices of hatching match the materials at hand the most.

Hope I helped.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Scuba Steve on August 29, 2007, 04:42:16 am
I began writing something... but I deleted it because I need to get stuff prepared for work tomorrow and I need to get some sleep :P

Great critique... I'll have to reply tomorrow.  The biggest challenge... and this might explain why this happened (I agree, I didn't want to render it this way...) but I was not given a picture of the Groom :P  I was able to fake the bottom image because it was smaller, based off some tiny facebook images :P ...but I turned his head because I didn't know what he looked like up close... I was friends with the bride... I had never really met the groom.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Feron on August 29, 2007, 11:37:34 am
what is the tentacle shaped thing next to the grooms gun?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Scuba Steve on August 29, 2007, 10:10:15 pm
Hentai.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: CrematedPumpkin on August 29, 2007, 11:42:31 pm
HMC, I'd just like to say that that is lovely.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on August 30, 2007, 12:43:50 am
@zach: haha anyone that likes my shit enough to even want a print is certainly welcome to it!
if i do get you one dont expect it to be better than a copy at kinko's though hah.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zach on August 30, 2007, 01:26:01 am
not really worried about it, that's fine
as long as I can put it up in my room or something! =D
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on August 31, 2007, 10:05:07 pm
Normally, when any user posts a novella-style critique, a lot is left to debate or at least differences of opinion.  In this rare - and frankly, deliteful - case, there is none.  Helm has hit most of the points hard and effectively, I would like only to add a few notes -

lack of focus and progression is the biggest difficulty facing this piece.  with everything brought into sharp light without detail, all forms fairly smooth etc, there's no place that says "look at me, I am important."  The piece is viewed then as a whole, but not in an effective or attractive sense.  As helm mentioned the lack of interest in the husband is interesting:  this could be worked into wonderful symbolism, but that doesn't appear to be the direction you are taking it (surely they both play and integral part by the end, punctuated by the line "we do."  In any event, black and white is an extremely sensitive case where detail and contrast (particularly positive-negative) play huge roles and here they are not really utilized at all.

Still, a fine effort; I look forward to seeing more from you.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Jad on September 01, 2007, 09:30:35 pm
PICTARZ @ w@

ryu: can I have a print of that!?

Hey Zach, I love your kind of angular style. It's organic in an appealing way, and while it is true that some expansion from your comfort zone would be delightful to see, I just wanted to say that I love the style you've got going on.

If you made a comic, it'd be made out of total win, putting that organic, flowy style into the timespace of a comic would really be something good for your kind of drawing style.

Also, seeing you animate would be interesting. :]

 That's what I thought, looking at your pictures, and I thought I'd like to share it with you.

<3
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on September 02, 2007, 11:08:34 pm
I wrote a cool trance/hypnotic dance song that I like a lot.  Please give it a listen, and comment!  :-*

Click Here (http://media.putfile.com/Weather-28)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: EyeCraft on September 03, 2007, 06:29:08 am
Very ambient, Faktablad. I can't find any particular problems with it, such as my musical expertise is, without making suggestions that would change it alot. It wouldn't be out of place as background music for a scene in a show (anime comes to mind for me), or a menu of a game, or of a game itself. It's pretty cruisy.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Malor on September 03, 2007, 01:16:05 pm
Faktabald, sweet. I really enjoyed it, I also could see this in an Anime, or in a game, but now I must ask.. if there anywhere I could download it? :crazy:
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: MoD on September 03, 2007, 01:41:16 pm
*oops*  :(
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on September 03, 2007, 02:21:06 pm
Um, thanks for assisting him in attempting to download my music without my permission.  :ouch:

I was planning on releasing a bunch of my music on an album which people would buy (because they cost money to make  :D).  So sorry, I would rather keep the song non-downloadable for now.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Malor on September 03, 2007, 02:26:12 pm
Fair enough Faktabald :)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: MoD on September 03, 2007, 04:11:06 pm
...sorry. :( Now I feel bad.

 I didn't really think about whether or not you might want people downloading it. Sorry again.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on September 03, 2007, 04:55:32 pm
No probs.  My main concern is that people enjoy my music, which you do, which is cool.  :lol: :y:
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Jericho on September 03, 2007, 11:16:00 pm
this started out as just some doodles while i was bored a few days ago and ended up as this. I have nothing better to do..too often i think.

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b307/unknown__user/other/ccpre.png)

Don't mind the bad grammar on it. Engrish is notorious on asian products x_o
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Chalk on September 04, 2007, 04:13:56 am
HMC i love bill murray! nicely done. tablet? i need to get one.

i painted some pixels today. not done ps.
(http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v120/187/37/108400225/n108400225_30035701_53.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Fingerfoods on September 04, 2007, 06:53:35 pm
@Ryu: Holy shit that's some serious awesome. The head reminds me a lot of the kid from Paranoia Agent (Li'l Slugger in the english dub, forget what he is in Japanese). The shading is pretty damn impressive.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: JonathanOfDrain on September 07, 2007, 04:28:33 am
I've finally got my hands on a small (4x5) wacom. It's lovely! Cute to boot! Shame it's really weird, I'm not used to looking else where to see what I've drawn.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/SariK/skull1.png)
Very fun to play around with :D, don't think I'll ever finish that "speed paint".
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: EyeCraft on September 07, 2007, 03:33:52 pm
I've finally got my hands on a small (4x5) wacom. It's lovely! Cute to boot! Shame it's really weird, I'm not used to looking else where to see what I've drawn.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/SariK/skull1.png)
Very fun to play around with :D, don't think I'll ever finish that "speed paint".

Yeah, I've got the same (high five!). It does take a little while to retrain the hand eye coordination, but it becomes surprisingly natural to use after a while.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: JonathanOfDrain on September 07, 2007, 08:03:30 pm
When I'm not drawing I reach for the mouse, it's almost embarrassing.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/SariK/face002.png)
My bard for DnD game I'm in right now. *Reaches for mouse* GAH!
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on September 08, 2007, 12:38:34 am
I used to ban Bards from my D&D campaigns for a reason, you know.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: JonathanOfDrain on September 08, 2007, 05:19:17 am
Is it because they hide swords in the neck of their lutes? I think unsheathing the sword would cause the neck to bow or snap. Strings put a lot of pressure on the neck of stringed instruments. I usually end up being the paladin or cleric, it ws a fairly large game (6 people + me) and since I was slow in whipping my character up all the other classes were taken and I don't like having two of any one class in the game. I'd never played a bard before so I thought it'd be fun.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on September 08, 2007, 05:43:29 pm
since i've had a lot of "oops" moments of late, i am putting this one up here still a sketch before the costumes come into play :

(http://xs219.xs.to/xs219/07366/Girls.jpg)

any glaring anatomical issues so far, that I can fix while they aren't "set in stone"?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: bengo on September 08, 2007, 05:45:58 pm
Loving it, they look really skinny though, they're supposed to be like that right?
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on September 08, 2007, 05:50:03 pm
yeah, it's a habit - when drawing from life, i draw people of actual weights, but left to my own devices they always are unhealthily skinny.  i don't know if these two are impossibly skinny, but definitely towards that end of the scale.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: huZba on September 08, 2007, 06:25:04 pm
Hmm... lessee... unpleasantly skinny. I can't see a person like that wielding weapons and carrying armor. Also missing right upper arm. Her face is long and thin and i guess you could start feeding them. Can't think of anything else right off the bat. Keep it up  :y:
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Helm on September 08, 2007, 08:18:20 pm
Hello Adarias. Your anatomy is improving steadily. Here is a draw over with various anatomical points. Keep in mind that I am not any sort of expert on anatomy and that a person with real anatomical skillz would think my stuff is hilarious also, but perhaps an intermediate step is good for people trying to become better.

(http://www.locustleaves.com/Girls%20copy.png)


a: your neck constructions are too extended and with too much emphasis on the back-of-neck muscles. This can be a style later on. Right now you need to pull the collarbones up where they should be and make the backs more solid

b:that position of the arm is a common mistake to people who structure humans holding weapons initially. But the human arm would never try to support a weight at that position, the arm would naturally move in the more comfortable state I have drawn it so it may utilise the whole set of muscles on the arm. Never put an arm holding something above the waist in such positions, avoid negative angles.

- the waist is unnaturally thin and cannot support that stance. Avoid supermodel thin waists on warrior women, generally. I'm not saying bulk them up to supermuscle (someone can be trained and conditioned to swing a weapon without looking like Conan) but you're going too far.

c: whereas most other measurements up to there were correct, the length of the thigh is very short.

d: your transition from shin to ankle was hesitant

e: look at more real people's feet in that perspective, I have a feeling you're not getting the shapes right.


If you want to make a woman who is not 8 feet tall (like most women are not) then you need to squish most measurements relatively equally. There *are* women with short legs or short torsos, but when working on anatomical sketches first perfect the perfect models and then work into exceptions.

Good work, generally, but studying of charts is in order more!

here is the psd file to switch my edit off and on as you desire

http://www.locustleaves.com/Girls.psd
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on September 08, 2007, 08:47:03 pm
hmm....i wonder if i haven't ended up with a huge-legged manlady?

(http://xs219.xs.to/xs219/07366/Girls.gif)

btw, OT, but does anyone know how any programs to adjust monitor colors?  This computer's profile is so cold!  gray is literally power-blue
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Ryumaru on September 08, 2007, 09:04:24 pm
if you want here to be more feminine i would make the hips wider than the shoulders.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: JonathanOfDrain on September 09, 2007, 04:58:32 am
if you want here to be more feminine i would make the hips wider than the shoulders.
I can't agree more. Most stereotypical strong men have huge arms and broad shoulders. I think it's safe to say they don't have very prominent hips. Women on the other hand do. The shape of a women is like an X while a mans is more like a Y (this is how I wrapped my head around the whole XY and XX thing in 7th grade biology). I think the shape of your characters is very important and their silhouettes alone should hint at their gender. So build some hips and don't make the shoulders any larger than they are now. I think that should do it.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: robotacon on September 09, 2007, 06:25:06 am
hmm....i wonder if i haven't ended up with a huge-legged manlady?

Remember that you've chosen a traditionally manly pose. The POV is from below (her eye level) and she's standing with her legs firmly on the ground, with a hammer on her shoulder. You could just as well have drawn a communist propaganda poster. Your choice makes for an interesting design though, I don't want you to change the stance. Perhaps you could take her right arm and lay it on top of the hammer so that her hand holds the end of the shaft instead. That would be a little more elegant without hinting to much on anything sexual.

I think your only problem is that you have the legs of one person and the upper body of another. They don't match each others perspective lines. The knees and feet suggest one thing while the shoulders and the chest suggest another. This is throwing you out of balance and you get the same problem old masters used to get when they used optical devices. 
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on September 09, 2007, 07:00:51 am
yeah i was just looking at the feet.  Another trouble i'm running into is that i'm trying to make her look protective which I only know how to portray as strong which is pretty manly with everything squared and paired.  Will get to work on it, no worries.....:P

too late now though (3am and i've got a few more places to be before church tomorrow)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: zeid on September 09, 2007, 10:54:19 am
Another head study. Any suggestions on improving this face, ignoring the ears (they aren't done).
(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/6703/skinwm1.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: gliding on September 09, 2007, 11:56:38 am
yeah i was just looking at the feet.  Another trouble i'm running into is that i'm trying to make her look protective which I only know how to portray as strong which is pretty manly with everything squared and paired.  Will get to work on it, no worries.....:P

too late now though (3am and i've got a few more places to be before church tomorrow)

perhaps a more suitable method of illustrating a protective stance would be for the protector to stand in-between the agressor (suggested), and the young girl. You'd move the girl a bit closer to Marine, and have marine's hand outstretched in front of hesel (if that's what her name was :P) ; Hesel's pose seem's perfect for that sort of thing IMO. Lastly, I have a 2 second blasphemic piece of MS Paint as a rough example of what I'm getting at.


 (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y134/json10131/bfdgbfdg.jpg)

* note: you probably won't cover hesel's face as that would be unpleasant- I'd suggest the chest area or something around there.
*Part of what makes your character a bit less feminine than you might desire is the fact that she has "real size" coupled with the actual fat proportions of someone much smaller. By this, i mean that when changing the proportions, you should have also given her actual body shape more of a tweak; IMO it takes different proportions to make a sturdy female look femanine than a smaller one.
*Lovely stuff though.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: fawel on September 10, 2007, 04:20:40 am
The ideal waist for a woman is .7 of her hips, .9 for a male.

Source (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/babes/mathemeticians-figure-out-what-makes-women-beautiful-293838.php)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: sonic_reaper on September 10, 2007, 03:01:24 pm
While men generally have larger waists then women, men's shoulders usually parallel to their waists, or larger, which makes it seems that women have larger waists.  So ... yeah, either smaller shoulders or larger waist on Adarias' drawing FTW.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Mirre on September 10, 2007, 07:44:56 pm
Forgot to post it here, but I made a watercolour tut. :yay:

I'm linking to DA, because it's loooong. So click HERE (http://mirrew.deviantart.com/art/Watercolour-Tutorial-63826219).

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/Mirre/images/watercolourtutorialthumb.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Jad on September 10, 2007, 07:51:10 pm
That was made of total win :]

You got me wanting to make something in watercolour now ooooh = A=
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zach on September 10, 2007, 09:30:14 pm
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/artfocker/DONTkillit.jpg)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Malor on September 11, 2007, 07:12:54 pm
hmmm I try to doodling thing's in that fashion, Zach, and fail miserably, so good job I suppose :o
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on September 11, 2007, 09:14:05 pm
That was made of total win :]

You got me wanting to make something in watercolour now ooooh = A=
Agreed!
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: sonic_reaper on September 11, 2007, 09:31:21 pm
I like the female's figure that's removing her shirt.  Very classical contrapposto.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on September 12, 2007, 11:49:23 pm
I made a trippy music video for my latest song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnVdUdF548c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnVdUdF548c)
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Larwick on September 13, 2007, 01:20:46 pm
I made a trippy music video for my latest song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnVdUdF548c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnVdUdF548c)

I usually really dislike that effect, but it really works on that. It's actually quite interesting to watch.  :y: The ending seems better synched than the start, but perhaps that was intentional.
Also cool choon!  ^-^
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on September 13, 2007, 11:11:44 pm
It was all pretty well synced when I originally recorded it, it just looked more synced before I applied the effect.  But it's all synced, just the end is supposed to be more forcefully synced.  Syncing it more would be difficult, because it's all a single shot.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Chalk on September 14, 2007, 04:37:25 am
I don't know how i feel about that video. may have just been a bit to much for my eyes heh.
some grasssss for my natural science illustration class.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/k_vandal/grass.jpg)
and a sketch for another piece
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/k_vandal/chalkgreennn.jpg)
and me painting a piece.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCuVBPY_j5w
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: AdamAtomic on September 14, 2007, 07:31:26 am
Toastie and I decided tonight, 2hr 15min before the TIGS B-Games Competition deadline, to enter.  This is what we made!

Puppies & Kitties Present: Happy Typing! PC Edition (http://ftyping.googlecode.com/files/Fuck_Typing.exe)

Puppies & Kitties Present: Happy Typing! OSX Edition (http://ftyping.googlecode.com/files/FuckTyping_OSX.zip)

We were a little late, more like 2 hrs 25 minutes.  But hey!  Whatever!

Also: this game is NOT ACTUALLY called puppies and kitties.  In fact, this game is composed almost exclusively of vulgar, adult language that should not be seen, written, heard, or typed by anyone of any age in any country, and certainly not young kids in the heartland of america!!!
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: ndchristie on September 14, 2007, 10:24:45 pm
(http://xs119.xs.to/xs119/07376/IMG_0270.JPG)

today's studies.....
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: mattness on September 15, 2007, 12:14:46 am
This is an old self-portrait, made in pencil.

(http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/3536/mattnessselfportraitor8.jpg)

The photo was very bad (I haven't got a scanner), so I had to use sepia fx and to change luminosity/contrast..
Sorry for the quality :sry:, just squeeze your eyes.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: sharprm on September 15, 2007, 04:26:45 am
Here is something I spent very little time on but maybe someone is interested:

http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e199/sharprm/?action=view&current=Page_1.jpg (http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e199/sharprm/?action=view&current=Page_1.jpg)

So no need to C+C because its rushed/lazy.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Zach on September 15, 2007, 04:57:38 am
eee I love seeing all the great art here guys

this is awesome!
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Opacus on September 15, 2007, 10:12:46 am
Here is something I spent very little time on but maybe someone is interested:

http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e199/sharprm/?action=view&current=Page_1.jpg (http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e199/sharprm/?action=view&current=Page_1.jpg)

So no need to C+C because its rushed/lazy.
That's awesome.
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: AdamAtomic on September 15, 2007, 11:48:30 pm
sharpm flip the position of the americans and the spartan or change your angle or something - my eyes are reading the spartan's line first in the middle row!
Title: Re: Official OT-Creativity Thread [Nudity]
Post by: Faktablad on September 16, 2007, 01:52:03 am
sharpm flip the position of the americans and the spartan or change your angle or something - my eyes are reading the spartan's line first in the middle row!
Mine too.