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Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: Exithium on October 14, 2006, 09:20:30 pm

Title: RPG monster - Need crits
Post by: Exithium on October 14, 2006, 09:20:30 pm
I haven't posted anything here since this February, so its about time I post something.
Anyway, heres a dragon thingy I've been working on for a RPG game;

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/DxEdge/Critsplx.png)

As you can see its quite W.I.Pish at the moment, yet I could use some crits to make it look better and
I can really use some tips on how to shade those wings of his :P
The style im going for is the monster style from Final Fantasy 6 and Bahamut Lagoon for the SNES.

Im aware of some palette issues on this piece.. especially the darker shades which are way dark.
Anyway, crit this piece for me so I can finish it.. Ive been working on it way too long now. :/

- Current Version -

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/DxEdge/Critsplx81.png)
Title: Re: RPG monster - Need crits
Post by: fil_razorback on October 14, 2006, 09:28:08 pm
I'm far to bad to give crits, but let me tell you that this is GREAT. Really.
Title: Re: RPG monster - Need crits
Post by: BadMrBox on October 14, 2006, 10:26:39 pm
Heavenly father! Nice! Great! I like it. How good are you on lower resolutions?
Title: Re: RPG monster - Need crits
Post by: progFX on October 14, 2006, 11:06:18 pm
I like this a lot, the only thing that seems to be bothering me is the Grey's used for the body, they seem to be more of shades you would use on stone, he looks solid as if a statue to me, posibly try experimenting with more blue/green/orange hues to add more color :) could just be me though.
Title: Re: RPG monster - Need crits
Post by: Dogmeat on October 14, 2006, 11:13:42 pm
Looks cool, but doesn't match the style of anything else you've done. Do you have a reference?
Title: Re: RPG monster - Need crits
Post by: Pawige on October 14, 2006, 11:24:58 pm
I agree with progFX that more color would help a lot, you could kick the highlights up a notch and increase the contrast a bit everywhere. At the moment, the three darkest shades are awfully close together. I also think you might've concentrated a bit too hard on the texture and not enough on the overall form, the face is a good example of that. The arms stand out a bit to me as well, they seem to be lit from the side, rather than the top, like everything else.
Title: Re: RPG monster - Need crits
Post by: Sherman Gill on October 15, 2006, 12:02:30 am
The claws are all funky, the shading should be so scattered, with that much contrast, atleast.
And the tail should be more curved, looks wierd as it is.

Besides that, nice.
Title: Re: RPG monster - Need crits
Post by: Exithium on October 15, 2006, 01:01:29 am
I like this a lot, the only thing that seems to be bothering me is the Grey's used for the body, they seem to be more of shades you would use on stone, he looks solid as if a statue to me, posibly try experimenting with more blue/green/orange hues to add more color :) could just be me though.

Now when you say it.. it should definately use some more color. cheers for the crit.

Looks cool, but doesn't match the style of anything else you've done. Do you have a reference?

Thanks, but what are you refering to, what other work have I done? :p
And no.. I didnt use a reference for this, I drew it from scratch from an idea I had in my head.

I agree with progFX that more color would help a lot, you could kick the highlights up a notch and increase the contrast a bit everywhere. At the moment, the three darkest shades are awfully close together. I also think you might've concentrated a bit too hard on the texture and not enough on the overall form, the face is a good example of that. The arms stand out a bit to me as well, they seem to be lit from the side, rather than the top, like everything else.

I definately agree about the arms.. there was something bothering me about them and now when you say it, altering the lightning should do the trick..
"too hard on the texture and not enough on the over form", hmmm.. Im not really sure what you mean by this.. but I guess its just me.. english isnt my native language and its 2:59 am in the morning so I might be able to understand you in the morning :P

The claws are all funky, the shading should be so scattered, with that much contrast, atleast.
And the tail should be more curved, looks wierd as it is.

Besides that, nice.
What claws do you mean, the ones on the arms, wings or the feet?
And about the tail, its being fixed as Im writing this ;)

cheers for the crits everyone. keep em comming!


- EDIT -

Updated:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/DxEdge/Critsplx4.png)

Im playing around with the colors , added some more detail and I fixed some of the highlights on the arms.

- EDIT2 -

Another update:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/DxEdge/Critsplx5.png)

Im still playing around with the colors.. tell me what you guys think.
Title: Re: RPG monster - Need crits
Post by: G_Dragon on October 15, 2006, 07:31:02 pm
Personally, I think that you should use the gray colour for the image. Either that, or change the colour of the dark parts to better fit with the green. Otherwise there's too much contrast.

Great dragon, though :)
Title: Re: RPG monster - Need crits
Post by: Takai Soyokaze on October 15, 2006, 07:36:25 pm
Keep the gray, but be informed that with gray, it looks like a gargoyle, even with the wings.
Title: Re: RPG monster - Need crits
Post by: Exithium on October 16, 2006, 01:02:49 am
I agree with both of you G_Dragon and Takai Soyokaze, the gray definately does it for this piece.. yet it does make him look like a statue.

However I updated it:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/DxEdge/Critsplx6.png)

I really liked how the palette came out now it makes him look more alive.. I might aswell stick with this palette for now.
And as some of you may think, yes! I do work slow.. but thats just me I guess :P
Title: Re: RPG monster - Need crits
Post by: Pawige on October 16, 2006, 02:47:38 am
The arm looks like a couple blobs of clay stuck together. Google up some arm mucle references and you'll be able to make it look a lot more realistic. Also, you've actually lost a bit of the contrast you had in the original. Those nitpicks aside, I really like the way it's going so far!
Title: Re: RPG monster - Need crits
Post by: Exithium on October 16, 2006, 07:58:53 pm
Cheers once again Pawige.

updated:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/DxEdge/Critsplx7.png)
and on a dark BG:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/DxEdge/drak.png)
Title: Re: RPG monster - Need crits
Post by: Helm on October 16, 2006, 08:26:49 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/DxEdge/drak.png) (http://www.locustleaves.com/drak2.png)

About the arm mostly. Colors too contrasty, too dark, too much seperation.
Title: Re: RPG monster - Need crits
Post by: Ryumaru on October 16, 2006, 08:28:30 pm
some backlighting could bring out the forms of this beast some, you could use the colors in the wings.
Title: Re: RPG monster - Need crits
Post by: Wolverine on October 16, 2006, 08:44:09 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/DxEdge/drak.png) (http://www.locustleaves.com/drak2.png)

About the arm mostly. Colors too contrasty, too dark, too much seperation.

Far prefer the contrast in the first one to be honest.  Much more threatening looking and atmospheric.  The one on the right looks flattened and less three-dimensional...
Title: Re: RPG monster - Need crits
Post by: Jad on October 16, 2006, 08:55:01 pm
Far prefer the contrast in the first one to be honest.  Much more threatening looking and atmospheric.  The one on the right looks flattened and less three-dimensional...

Yup. Perhaps we are using brighter screens than Helm 0: That really changes the way a pic looks, really.
Title: Re: RPG monster - Need crits
Post by: Exithium on October 16, 2006, 09:34:05 pm
Update
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/DxEdge/Critsplx81.png)
I took Helms edit into consideration (excelent edit by the way) and tried to fix the arm as accurate as I could and yet not copy too much :)
I also brightened one of the colors up a bit.. just a tad, since I agree with both Wolverine and Jad on this one.
Title: Re: RPG monster - Need crits
Post by: Helm on October 16, 2006, 11:37:38 pm
Thanks. I think the arm is good, probably better than my edit. You can keep the high contrast for atmospheric reasons, and I agree it would probably be best if you do, but in that case I'd add a buffer shade likeso:

(http://www.locustleaves.com/Critsplx81.png)
Title: Re: RPG monster - Need crits
Post by: rabidbaboy on October 16, 2006, 11:55:00 pm
That is great work there. It would be perfect for a cutscene of a game or something extravagant.
My only crit is his right wing's claw or horn. Since it is folded back a bit, shouldn't the claw be shorter than the claw on his left wing? Yet in the image, they are of the same length. Here is an example of what I mean, with my edit in red.
(http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5711/editsloljt4.png)