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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Dogmeat on October 11, 2006, 03:46:36 am

Title: Biology is very strange yet mechanical
Post by: Dogmeat on October 11, 2006, 03:46:36 am
I was looking for a picture of a snarling dog and somehow I came across this video which supposedly visually demonstrates what life is like inside of a cell. check it, it's kinda cool.

http://aimediaserver.com/studiodaily/videoplayer/?src=harvard/harvard.swf&width=640&height=520
Title: Re: Biology is very strange yet mechanical
Post by: Blick on October 11, 2006, 05:23:01 pm
Holy crap, that was really cool. I was expecting something like "And here we have the ribosomes and the mitochondria are these little ovalish objects and what they do is..."
Title: Re: Biology is very strange yet mechanical
Post by: Sherman Gill on October 11, 2006, 06:02:16 pm
Wow... Dude, that was amazing :huh:.
Title: Re: Biology is very strange yet mechanical
Post by: Ryumaru on October 11, 2006, 06:55:20 pm
holy shit.
Title: Re: Biology is very strange yet mechanical
Post by: Feron on October 11, 2006, 09:10:07 pm
holy shit.

I second that motion.
Title: Re: Biology is very strange yet mechanical
Post by: Ryumaru on October 11, 2006, 09:41:47 pm
this clip makes the things happening inside the cell... almost epic, like that one thing carying the huge thing(im so precise arent i?)
Title: Re: Biology is very strange yet mechanical
Post by: Oded on October 11, 2006, 10:11:29 pm
funny, i just had a test today in AP biology about how the cell works... it was fun pointing out things i knew...looks a lot better in a 3d video than in the text book lol...good find ;)
Title: Re: Biology is very strange yet mechanical
Post by: Dogmeat on October 12, 2006, 12:45:37 am
yeah and I wasn't even on drugs when I found that, aaaaaamazing! cha cha cha !

Joking aside,

I agree with the epic part.

When you really think about it, size is limited by our perception.
By adjusting perception, we adjust size.

Just think of the things that make up each component of a cell, or the ones they don't know about ;)
Title: Re: Biology is very strange yet mechanical
Post by: Conzeit on October 12, 2006, 04:20:48 am
Holy crap, that was really cool. I was expecting something like "And here we have the ribosomes and the mitochondria are these little ovalish objects and what they do is..."
I for one wished there was more of that =O I wonder what the hell all this is supposed to be, if all this epic stuff is going on inside me I wanna know when so I can get all giggly inside :p
Title: Re: Biology is very strange yet mechanical
Post by: robalan on October 12, 2006, 04:23:20 am
Well, I could only tell what a few of those things going on were, but I can tell you that all of it is going on all the time  :lol:

I also agree with earlier statements regarding the coolness of this.
Title: Re: Biology is very strange yet mechanical
Post by: Conzeit on October 12, 2006, 04:29:48 am
heheh. I know...but...what is the larger subject of the vid? the first part makes me think of the bloodstream...and as far as I know nothing similar goes inside of a cell, so I'm never really sure of what I'm looking at in here...I suppose my best guess is a cell's absoprtion of proteins carried by the bloodstream...but that shows just how much I DONT know wtf is going on XD boy....I should've really memorized the cell theory back in 4th grade instead of just temp-learning it for the exams :p

my favorite parts are definitively when those tendrils start extending in 3d, and when all the little blue particles  come together to form a platform to support for the orange retracted tendrils
Title: Re: Biology is very strange yet mechanical
Post by: robalan on October 12, 2006, 04:50:13 am
Hmmm...lemme see if I can tell what each thing is:
-Blood vessel with red blood cells whizzing along and white blood cells rolling along the vessel walls
-a bunch of things I can't identify... perhaps exterior shots of cells being connected and communicating?  I'm not sure.
-more things I can't identify that look more interior-like...
-the next one that looks familiar is the purple spirals, I think is DNA being built.
-next is DNA being cut for use by something
-next is microtubules being built, then taken apart [I think]
-next is something (big blue blob) being carried to another part of the cell along a microtubule [I think]
-then it does some panning, taking in the nucleus, a mitochondria, some microtubules, and other stuff
-next is some messenger RNA being sent out to do stuff (it shoots then curls into rings) [I think]
-then ribosomes hook on to the messenger RNA and read it, using the information to build proteins
-the proteins fly off and hook up with other proteins, heading for the mitochondria
-then a ribosome makes another protein inside some other organelle, I'm not sure what
-I'm not sure what the little blue blobs popping out of a larger blue blob are
-Then we see the Golgi Complex doing its thing
-next is a breif shot of something being transported again, followed by a vacuole evacuating out of the cell
-the stuff that came out is then moved somewhere else and unfolded (don't know what's going on here)
-next is another shot of the blood vessel, with a white blood cell flowing its way out of the bloodstream
-then it goes back to the blood vessel one last time and ends

Okay, if anybody can clarify the things I wasn't sure about, explain what the big blue blobs are, or tell me what the scenes between the blood vessel and the DNA construction are, please do.

And Conceit, almost all of that was inside the cell; I think the only part that was on a cellular scale was the blood vessel part.  If I'm correct, there were a couple parts on the exterior of a cell, but they were on a scale such that the proteins were visible and the cell membrane appeared as a vast plain.  The rest, however, was inside a cell.
Title: Re: Biology is very strange yet mechanical
Post by: Conzeit on October 12, 2006, 07:48:14 am
aw robalan you are too nice, this kinda attitude is what keeps me coming back here  ;D
Title: Re: Biology is very strange yet mechanical
Post by: robalan on October 12, 2006, 12:18:50 pm
Heh no problem.  It was good exercize to see if I could bring that biology back; it's been a couple of years since I've had to use it.
Title: Re: Biology is very strange yet mechanical
Post by: Lick on October 15, 2006, 10:40:29 am
Wonder how much time they spend creating the 3D animations.. Aren't they biologists??
Title: Re: Biology is very strange yet mechanical
Post by: Akira on October 15, 2006, 10:59:04 pm
3d team working with biologists i think. i saw the original post a while ago. and they specialize in medical 3d animation i think?
Title: Re: Biology is very strange yet mechanical
Post by: Conzeit on October 16, 2006, 05:54:41 am
original post? you mean here? because I hope you mean on some other comunity which this video came from cause I'll be damned if I just have to accept having no clue what all that stuff is
Title: Re: Biology is very strange yet mechanical
Post by: Akira on October 19, 2006, 10:41:30 pm
yah it was on another blog/forum/website. i'll try find you a link after i've eaten :D

edit: heres the company that created it: http://www.xvivo.net/press/harvard_university.htm
no proper mention of what all that stuff is (from my skim through) so perhaps you'll just have to accept it and be damned ;)
Title: Re: Biology is very strange yet mechanical
Post by: TheAbyss on October 19, 2006, 11:39:11 pm
 :o That was cool.
Title: Re: Biology is very strange yet mechanical
Post by: Ryumaru on October 20, 2006, 12:38:36 am
what makes my brain hurt is that, shouldnt all this stuff have things even SMALLER going on inside of them? does it ever end!?
Title: Re: Biology is very strange yet mechanical
Post by: miascugh on October 20, 2006, 12:53:13 am
Well, I think the next step would already be atomic level (we once had the atomic structure of a dna string in biology class, it's rather simple, but that's long gone), then you'd have your Electron/Neutron/Proton deal and anything below sub-sub-atomic is such wild ad-hoc speculation that it is really kind of hard to take that too serious.
Title: Re: Biology is very strange yet mechanical
Post by: Conzeit on October 24, 2006, 07:29:00 am
I be damned :p  :huh:

actually...
Quote
, "The Inner Life of the Cell" takes undergrads beyond textbooks and vividly illustrates the mechanisms that allow a white blood cell to sense its surroundings and respond to an external stimulus. This animation explores the different cellular environments in which these communications take place.
=D I can settle for that until I see something more of this...as the page implies will happen.
Title: Re: Biology is very strange yet mechanical
Post by: Noiprox on October 25, 2006, 01:21:11 am
Millions of chemical reactions are continuously happening inside every human body at all times, of which scientists only know relatively few, and even fewer are understood.

Also, quantum mechanics is neither ad hoc nor wild speculation. At least not much more so than other Science is. It is just that it happens far enough outside our intuition that it seems strange to us. That and our best models of them are statistical because reality at such a low level is nondeterministic. The experimental method is breaking down there because it is becoming increasingly difficult to conduct reliable experiments.
Title: Re: Biology is very strange yet mechanical
Post by: Conzeit on October 27, 2006, 03:09:55 am
...our best models of them are statistical because reality at such a low level is nondeterministic. The experimental method is breaking down there because it is becoming increasingly difficult to conduct reliable experiments.

and that is simply beautiful, it's almost poetic to me that reality at it's purest is above scientific methods.

sometimes it makes me think that maybe we are all just made up....and the bizarre functioning of quantum mechanics is like a plothole, or a glitch

sheesh....I'm an ignoramus :p