Pixelation
Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: Lackey on October 02, 2006, 03:09:11 pm
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(http://individual.utoronto.ca/lackey/loose/nightwalkhawk3.png)
I'm experimenting! Colours taken from NES palette. Took me, some time. The wide frame format is mostly incidental. Based on the experience of walking in the early morning.
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Now this is what I'd call a pixel-art comic!
Echoes of Lovecraft, Shadow of the Beast and A Lesson is Learned (http://www.Alessonislearned.com) all in one. No crits. I adore greatly.
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Indeed, this is what a pixelcomic should be like, not using the same sprites over and over again.
Small nitpick i have is about the fontspacing. It's inconsistant.
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Gah, its broken. :'(
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Gah, its broken. :'(
Not on my screen...
This makes me wanna smile :), no crits from me just a thumbs up.
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I can't see it either.
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(http://xs107.xs.to/xs107/06401/nightwalkhawk3.png)
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No crits, too good! Also, I think the letterspacing looks better than perfectly consistant.
Also, can I get a copy of your NES palette?
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I love everything about it. You should make more and show those sprite comic 'artists' what pixel art comics should be like. :)
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Am I the only one to whom the s's look like z's?
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Am I the only one to whom the s's look like z's?
Get your eyes checked, "s" is the other way round as "z" :crazy:
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I didn't directly control the spacing of the font I just used a system font on the lowest possible size. It was terminal I think. Do you think it's a good idea to use a pixel font I've made myself?
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im afraid I cannot see your work.. :mean:
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the link's still broken =/
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I'm forbidden from giving a critique because apparently Helm thinks I'm mean, so I'll just ask you a simple question. Do sunrises where you are from make the sky darker?
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The pic works fine on Firefox, but not on IE.
Very nice looking.
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my suggestion would be to mix your colors more to get better blending, but that might ruin your style in this case and its not at all necessary. nice work here
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can someone who see's this re-host this on like imageshack or something, only a select few can see it :B
Im gettin exctited about seeing this now, it's like a forbidden fruit ;D
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oy! (http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/images/840588473.gif)
looks great..love the color use, the feel to it, the originality.. etc etc praise
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I'd really like to see this, but all i see are red X's. :n:
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I'd really like to see this, but all i see are red X's. :n:
me too, FIX THEM!!! use this site for it:
http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/
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I'm really not sure what to do about the broken images. It works fine in Firefox, is it my school's server or something?
Do sunrises where you are from make the sky darker?
No, it does turn it a pinkish blue colour though.
PS: As you wish.
(http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/images/930086242.png)
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I'm really not sure what to do about the broken images. It works fine in Firefox, is it my school's server or something?
IE doesn't properly recognize PNG files with alpha transparency. Save it again in 8-bit or 24-bit rather than 32-bit.
No, it does turn it a pinkish blue colour though.
And it does this before or after the part where everything is orange?
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What is your point Sqorgar? ???
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What is your point Sqorgar? ???
The part where he is supposedly walking at night, has an orange color - the color you would give something during a sunrise or sunset. Then, supposedly after the sun is in the process of rising, it goes to a very dark highlighted purple, which gives it a nighttime feeling. It's like Batman: The Animated Series. They drew on black paper to give the show a dark feeling. But sunrise isn't dark. It's orange first, and then moves lighter and lighter to a whitish color, then light blue to sky blue. On cloudy or winter days, the sky doesn't go blue so much as bluish gray, where the gray gets progressively lighter and bluer. But under no circumstance, does it EVER get darker. It does not go from orange to purple. It goes from purple to orange.
The comic would work much better if he switched the words to match the chronology of color. He goes walking in the twilight, and after sunset, crap happens. But then, the owl still wouldn't have any feet.
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Who says it's a owl in the first place. Also I am pretty sure the colours are chosen to set the mood rather than be realistic. When the colours are swapped (i tried it) the impact is way less that how it is atm. I think this works well from a storytelling point of view.
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It's orange because of the city lights...
I think this is great. Makes me think of some illustration I vaguely recall for Poe's "The Raven" The mood is conveyed very well... makes me feel like trying a comic.
Only thing is maybe the guy at the top is a little too goofy with his walk? I like the guy individually, but I'm not sure it fits well withing the whole piece.
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Who says it's a owl in the first place.
Okay smart guy, then how is it carrying the little man in the fourth panel? With its smooth, diet pill like body?
If I were the artist, I'd just dump the entire lower outline, keeping only the highlights on the head and wings, leaving a huge dark abyss. For this kind of mood, you don't ever want to show full shapes. The darkness left by the lack of definition - the negative space of the clouds - is all you need to define the not-owl, and hey, you don't have to draw any feet then...
Also I am pretty sure the colours are chosen to set the mood rather than be realistic. When the colours are swapped (i tried it) the impact is way less that how it is atm. I think this works well from a storytelling point of view.
I didn't say to change the colors. I said to change the words. The mood is fine. The technical details need some help.
It's orange because of the city lights...
No it's not. In the right side, the little man is climbing a staircase to an orange sky highlighting the trees (or mountains)... but I guess there could be a Walmart on the other side or something... An orange Walmart...
Look, if you really like it and want to see it improve, you can't just come up with excuses for its flaws. This artist deserves better than that. Point out the mistakes so that he can fix them, and so he won't make them again.
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The creature has no beak either. I, knowing that Lackey likes himself some Lovecraft, assume he wanted to make an odd, surreal creature that works in ways humans can not really comprehend. And as far as that goes I have to say i think he succeeds.
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Sqorgar, it isn't neccesary to debate every point made. This is art, and thus is open to artistic interpretation. The piece said "something dark", which implies some dark and mysterious figure or force, if one were to give it a name, it would take away from individual interpretation. Colors are directly related to mood, and it is the artists say as to whether or not the orange is related to the city.
The piece looks great, you've made excellent use of the pallete
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I like it alot, nice mood, though the first panel looks more like a video game, and alot more simplistic than the others.
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(http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/images/1131802137.png)
I'd just dump the entire lower outline, keeping only the highlights on the head and wings, leaving a huge dark abyss. For this kind of mood, you don't ever want to show full shapes.
The creature has no beak either. I, knowing that Lackey likes himself some Lovecraft, assume he wanted to make an odd, surreal creature that works in ways humans can not really comprehend.
Ptoing is correct, but I still feel Squo has a good suggestion. Much as I like featureless organic bizarrarie a little bit of mystery works here. I then had to remove the decorative scrollworky stuff in this area for aesthetic reasons and I think the piece is better for it.
The comic would work much better if he switched the words to match the chronology of color. He goes walking in the twilight, and after sunset, crap happens. But then, the owl still wouldn't have any feet.
Can't change the words for technical reasons, so I've grayed out the sky there in this edit. I think it looks good this way, though I still want a patch of concentrated orange somewhere.
Okay smart guy, then how is it carrying the little man in the fourth panel? With its smooth, diet pill like body?
Haha! I like this a lot. Also: the answer is magnetism.
I like it alot, nice mood, though the first panel looks more like a video game, and alot more simplistic than the others.
This is no accident!
Also, to everyone: I can make up my own post-rationalizations, thanks. The discussion is lively and informative though as I'm not even sure of what I'm doing when I work on something like this.
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not quite sure im as much a fan of the edit - its my personal favorite time when the sky occasionally turns deep red/orange in the morning before it starts to get that gray dawn and then the full-on orange/pink sunrise. keep the orange i think, the gray makes it feel dead
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Especially considering he's moving towards something alive, a personal experience of importance, not towards a gray death.
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This is so great it actually made me log in. That has to count for something, aye?
Great work. Just go with the first version, the orange helps balance the piece.
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I very much like this; much better than what I first expected when I saw the title (pixel comics usually don't look so nice :D )
I really can't crit this in any way, however I have a question: What do you mean by Lovecraft? The author, or am I missing something?
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Am I the only one to whom the s's look like z's?
No.
The dark pixel to the right on the bottom makes it look like it extends to that part and ends, looking more z-like. Since the bottom-left part is bright, it looks like it has more stuff in that part (the corner of the z). I can see the s, but I also see the z.
Aside from that, I absolutely looove this. Especially the middle 2 panels. Yesss. :0'
Will you be making any more!? :D
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Okay smart guy, then how is it carrying the little man in the fourth panel? With its smooth, diet pill like body
Owls can hide their feet really well, smart guy. I do prefer the magnetism explanation however.
http://www.ctbirding.org/photos_owls/snowy_flying_against_sky.jpg
http://www.parkhall-countrycottages.com/Images1/Barn_Owl_flying.jpg
http://www.free-living.com/images/images%20-%20birds/GGO-flying-in-snowing-jari_.jpg
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I think adding feet would ruin it.. i like the way it blends into the black bg. And robotriot makes an excellent point about owls feet.
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(http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/images/1131802137.png)
Actually, I'm a bit of a fan of the gray, let me explain.
The gray for me, represents the sense of colour-dullness you might expect moving from a artificially lit area to nature. I actually felt in my stomach that when my eye wandered from the gray sky to the purple, i got a fresh-breeze kind of sensation. That way I really liked it.
If my english is rusty and I have weird ways of explaining things, sorry. It'll come back eventually, I hope. Long time since I wrote in english last time 0:
Anyways, I loved it from the start. Great job.
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The piece looks wonderful, but i am not a fan of the first panel. Its style clash with the rest...
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@everyone who couldn't see it in the first place
directly opening the URL in your gfx application is another way to see the image with haste :>
@lackey
I like your comic very much, great colors and nice mood!
Reminds me a bit of lucas arts "loom" :)