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Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: Phoenix849 on May 29, 2016, 02:23:06 am

Title: Foliage grinding quest
Post by: Phoenix849 on May 29, 2016, 02:23:06 am
Long story short... I'm awful with foliage, so I decided to grind the hell out of that skill. Can I git gud at it? We'll see.

(http://i.imgur.com/buiPcGx.png)

I was going to do this for a long time. Marmontel Boris posted this (https://twitter.com/OniMille/status/736223709766275072) on twitter, and it gave me initial push to start. First I'm going to run through tutorials and references in my reach or saved on my HDD. Current goal is to get 64 32x32 areas filled with all kinds of leaves, grass and what not.

Critique and useful links or explanation how foliage "works" are of course appreciated. And yes, I lurked Good Reads and most of the tree threads here. Too sad most of the images are dead :c
Title: Re: Foliage grinding quest
Post by: Phoenix849 on June 01, 2016, 07:53:43 pm
Tried slym's tutorial (http://pixelation.org/index.php?topic=14143.msg132229#msg132229), but seems I don't get it at all, because it's a mess of pixels rather than bushes.

(http://i.imgur.com/QeR8oSD.png)
Title: Re: Foliage grinding quest
Post by: MysteryMeat on June 02, 2016, 04:13:29 am
try doing some irregularly-shaped plants, like topiary sculptures or tree-towers
Title: Re: Foliage grinding quest
Post by: Phoenix849 on June 02, 2016, 07:14:57 am
try doing some irregularly-shaped plants, like topiary sculptures or tree-towers
Yeah, it's in the plans!
Title: Re: Foliage grinding quest
Post by: Phoenix849 on July 26, 2016, 03:58:14 pm
This is surely the most frustrating practice I've done so far. Not sure if I can find strength to reach 64. Maybe practicing the thing you hate tempers yourself, who knows.

(http://i.imgur.com/09YTrkn.png)
Title: Re: Foliage grinding quest
Post by: fingas10 on July 26, 2016, 06:55:42 pm
I think the textures are pretty solid in my opinion. The outer shapes seem a bit too confined or consistent to me but otherwise looking good thus far.
Title: Re: Foliage grinding quest
Post by: Mathias on July 26, 2016, 09:17:39 pm
I think this is all really nice so far.

Try other palettes, not just one ramp. Long leaves that taper gradiently into a different color. Different colored leaves here and there.

You could tackle some trees. They could occupy 4 grid squares per, if not more.
Title: Re: Foliage grinding quest
Post by: Phoenix849 on July 27, 2016, 10:38:40 pm
Thank you, guys.

Try other palettes, not just one ramp. Long leaves that taper gradiently into a different color. Different colored leaves here and there.

You could tackle some trees. They could occupy 4 grid squares per, if not more.
Yeah, I was planning to move onto trees next, after I solve why foliage itself is so damn frustrating to me. I was focusing more on textures, forms and lightning when I started this quest. Valid point about palettes though.
Title: Re: Foliage grinding quest
Post by: BadMoodTaylor on July 28, 2016, 01:27:40 am
This is surely the most frustrating practice I've done so far. Not sure if I can find strength to reach 64. Maybe practicing the thing you hate tempers yourself, who knows.

It is looking good!

If you hate it that much this is probably the best thing you can do.  If you complete the project every time you will probably thank yourself every single time you need to make some foliage in the future...instead of hating yourself for having to make foliage.
Title: Re: Foliage grinding quest
Post by: MysteryMeat on July 28, 2016, 07:04:01 am
On the opposite end of that spectrum though, the more you push yourself to do things you hate the more likely you'll be able to do it again with other things, and you'll have that body of more detailed work under your belt for future use.
Title: Re: Foliage grinding quest
Post by: Phoenix849 on July 29, 2016, 09:17:32 pm
That's exactly the point of this exercise. I remember advice on some youtube video "if you hate working with something, try drawing it until you love it". Can't remember the source, but it got stuck with me.
Title: Re: Foliage grinding quest
Post by: Phoenix849 on July 30, 2016, 10:33:39 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/C0JrYmY.png)

Okay, you know what? I think it may actually work. I'm frustrated a bit less this time and starting to like how some of these turn out. Of course, this won't make me a foliage expert, but rather help me feel more confident as props artist for games.