Pixelation

Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: odedrt9 on March 23, 2016, 07:49:03 pm

Title: Fish [C&C]
Post by: odedrt9 on March 23, 2016, 07:49:03 pm

Hey there  :)


So I was trying to make a fish for a game. Now, I was told the small version was hard to read and that I should go for a bigger sized sprite and make my way from there.

This is the original: (http://i.imgur.com/Z3PEMMl.png)

And this is the bigger sprite: (http://i.imgur.com/IHxEcDM.png)

At this point, really, anything is welcome  :'( ???
Thanks in advance!


Current progress and process:
(http://i.imgur.com/uEiDaiR.png) --> (http://i.imgur.com/4cNIkiO.png) --> (http://i.imgur.com/oWBK3Wt.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/JDWETgy.png)

Title: Re: Fish [C&C]
Post by: DracoDragon42 on March 23, 2016, 08:06:53 pm

I think that the original looks better, but, I would make it a little bit bigger, not that much, just so that you can get the details and proportions in there better. Also try giving it a proper outline because it looks like there is an outline everywhere there is orange, but at the white there is no outline.

Title: Re: Fish [C&C]
Post by: Seiseki on March 23, 2016, 08:16:23 pm

There is quite a lot of banding going on with the stripes.
But I think the biggest issue is that the shape looks rather uneven and not streamlined.
Partly due to the shading, but also because of the entire silhouette.

Looking at a reference, it seems like the clownfish looks a lot less streamlined than I thought.
But I think the biggest issue in yours is that the back part seems to bulge out.

(http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/custom/images/large/4ba87acf926d2.jpg)

Also, the light is coming from both underneath and above? The shading is not very clear.

Title: Re: Fish [C&C]
Post by: odedrt9 on March 24, 2016, 05:16:45 am

Well, light underneath the water surface is a bit weird because of the refraction, but yeah still it was very off.

Here's another attempt to fix the shape a bit and shadings: (http://i.imgur.com/yqGQCrC.png)

Title: Re: Fish [C&C]
Post by: odedrt9 on March 24, 2016, 04:57:04 pm

So here's the current version: (http://i.imgur.com/JAr0Fj7.png) and the initial size: (http://i.imgur.com/VJxcgi8.png)

Also went for a middle sized sprite: (http://i.imgur.com/zj9vawH.png)

Title: Re: Fish [C&C]
Post by: dpixel on March 25, 2016, 12:16:58 am

I like your latest version.  Maybe add a slight tint of blue or green to the grays.  Also more yellow on the head area...maybe a more vivid yellow?  A darker black?  Bigger eye?

Title: Re: Fish [C&C]
Post by: odedrt9 on March 25, 2016, 05:45:57 am

Quote from: dpixel on March 25, 2016, 12:16:58 am

I like your latest version.  Maybe add a slight tint of blue or green to the grays.  Also more yellow on the head area...maybe a more vivid yellow?  A darker black?  Bigger eye?

Thanks for the advice :)

here are the results: (http://i.imgur.com/TkFpX7x.png) --> (http://i.imgur.com/4cNIkiO.png) --> (http://i.imgur.com/oWBK3Wt.png)

Title: Re: Fish [C&C]
Post by: dpixel on March 25, 2016, 07:56:21 pm

That has a nice pop to it now.  I still think the eye could be bigger.  It's hard to see at original size.  And the darker gray could be lightened a bit to match the value of the orange next to it.

Title: Re: Fish [C&C]
Post by: odedrt9 on March 25, 2016, 08:09:48 pm

@dpixel yeah I made some changes since:
(http://i.imgur.com/o7sCMDb.png) ---dithering---> (http://i.imgur.com/CHiKpo3.png)

Also, I'm not sure I can make the eye any bigger without it looking weird...

Title: Re: Fish [C&C]
Post by: dpixel on March 26, 2016, 12:22:30 am

The eye looks much better   :y:   Looks great!

Title: Re: Fish [C&C]
Post by: metachaos on March 26, 2016, 11:02:24 am

In the reference posted by Seiseki, there is a tiny gradient between black and yellow, i wonder if it would be better with this orange/redish color as a merger ?

Did an edit to see if it works :

(http://i.imgur.com/CHiKpo3.png)
(http://www.isckia.com/fishy.png)

Title: Re: Fish [C&C]
Post by: odedrt9 on March 26, 2016, 01:07:36 pm

Quote from: metachaos on March 26, 2016, 11:02:24 am

In the reference posted by Seiseki, there is a tiny gradient between black and yellow, i wonder if it would be better with this orange/redish color as a merger ?

Did an edit to see if it works :

(http://i.imgur.com/CHiKpo3.png)
(http://www.isckia.com/fishy.png)

Thanks for the edit, you might be right that there should be some kind of a gradient but I think you made the black too thick.
I'll try gradienting it a bit though thanks :D

Title: Re: Fish [C&C]
Post by: metachaos on March 26, 2016, 01:53:39 pm

You're right ! good luck, i'm following this piece :)

Title: Re: Fish [C&C]
Post by: odedrt9 on March 26, 2016, 06:15:59 pm

Thanks @metachaos :D

So I tried gradient the stripes a bit, what do you think?
(http://i.imgur.com/6AqiRJV.png)

Another attempt, tried making heavier transition: (http://i.imgur.com/Amz2kBW.png)

Title: Re: Fish [C&C]
Post by: metachaos on March 26, 2016, 06:37:30 pm

Nice :) it's more subtile and more relevant therefor !

Title: Re: Fish [C&C]
Post by: odedrt9 on March 26, 2016, 07:14:06 pm

Most recent update: (http://i.imgur.com/FOZKMeX.png)

Title: Re: Fish [C&C]
Post by: rocifier on March 27, 2016, 12:45:37 am

This is pretty awesome progress. I love the latest one. +1 recommend this for being featured.

Title: Re: Fish [C&C]
Post by: odedrt9 on March 27, 2016, 08:23:36 am

@rocifier thanks ^^

Last version: (http://i.imgur.com/uEiDaiR.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/JDWETgy.png)

I'm done with it for now :)