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Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: Idera on April 05, 2015, 07:26:21 pm

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Post by: Idera on April 05, 2015, 07:26:21 pm


I actually decided I wanted to make make my recent OC a pixel art Portrait.... Eventually I may decide to animate the eyes... since I love how they came out.

Music Used 【Listed in Order】

Alina Baraz & Galimatias - Pretty Thoughts

Benny Mails - Western

First Aid Kit - Winter Is All Over You (Baauer Remix)

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All done by scratch. Plus the Hands were a bit difficult... forgive me. XDD

Enjoy!
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Post by: Decroded on April 05, 2015, 10:32:59 pm
i think you should give up this process of time consuming dithering between the lines and just try painting the forms instead.
go back to basics and follow the standard process of defining your light sources and ambient light, block in the light and dark, block in your colours, start with larger brush sizes then refine...
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Post by: Wes on April 05, 2015, 11:13:33 pm
Your color choices are really bland. There isn't nearly enough contrast between them for it to be worth it.

You should share the final image so we can give some proper feedback.

Then again, based on the way you presented this whole thing, I don't think that you're really looking for feedback. Maybe this kind of post doesn't belong at a forum like this.
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Post by: Ryumaru on April 05, 2015, 11:23:13 pm
Hey there, this is a nice video; always interesting to see someone's process. Are you looking toe any critique? There are some things that could be improved upon definitely. The location of the nose especially. The eyes are indeed well done, it would be nice to see the entire image brought up to that quality.
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Post by: Idera on April 06, 2015, 04:00:59 am
i think you should give up this process of time consuming dithering between the lines and just try painting the forms instead.
go back to basics and follow the standard process of defining your light sources and ambient light, block in the light and dark, block in your colours, start with larger brush sizes then refine...

Well uh... it's a bit too late for that now...  = .=  plus I have plenty of time....



Your color choices are really bland. There isn't nearly enough contrast between them for it to be worth it.

You should share the final image so we can give some proper feedback.

Then again, based on the way you presented this whole thing, I don't think that you're really looking for feedback. Maybe this kind of post doesn't belong at a forum like this.

That critique is leaving a pollution of a saltiness into this post...  i'm a bit rusty at pixel art plus don't bash me for my color choices.. I used the colors from the actual 3D I made of her. (which is probably my best one I've made recently and actually finished.. for once)  And I'm a bit new.. and not very "Great" at forums... Honestly I'm just proud about how it looks... just wanted to share my achievement... or whatever. It's progress... not really much of a time-lapse of a finished product because I sometimes slack around whenever I do certain things.

So who knows how long it would take JUST for me to finish the entire portrait

Also did I mention I'm new here...? :/




Hey there, this is a nice video; always interesting to see someone's process. Are you looking toe any critique? There are some things that could be improved upon definitely. The location of the nose especially. The eyes are indeed well done, it would be nice to see the entire image brought up to that quality.

Pheww.. I'm glad there isn't any hostility here.... kind of got some tough love already ever since I came on here. I tried on the nose the best I could  xDDD, since the girl i'm making is my recent OC...(which is rite dere in a 360)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq9tWKvtJXM and basically she's a Human/Deer Hybrid Spirit. So... I tried to make it deer-like... and yeah.. it kinda does feel weird I'm probably gonna fix it eventually.. since it does urk me a bit.

I'd love a critique But I'm a bit defensive when someone insults it too much... even though they're trying to help me improve it... but sure.

(god I talk too much xDD)
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Post by: lachrymose on April 06, 2015, 01:20:39 pm
This forum specifically is built with the intention of providing critique for people.

If you are JUST looking to share artwork and NOT looking for critique I would post in the Daily Sketch forum (http://wayofthepixel.net/index.php?topic=16253.1250) or better yet the General/Creativity forum (http://wayofthepixel.net/index.php?board=1.0)

I would also like to mention that the critique provided here can be harsh, especially if you are proud of your work. However you will always get quality, meaningful critique that is meant to build you up more as a pixel artist rather than put you down.
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Post by: Idera on April 06, 2015, 02:57:17 pm
This forum specifically is built with the intention of providing critique for people.

If you are JUST looking to share artwork and NOT looking for critique I would post in theDaily Sketch forum (http://wayofthepixel.net/index.php?topic=16253.1250)

I would also like to mention that the critique provided here can be harsh, especially if you are proud of your work. However you will always get quality, meaningful critique that is meant to build you up more as a pixel artist rather than put you down.

//sigh yeah if I knew that before, maybe I wouldn't be feeling like crap.  -_-
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Post by: Fizzick on April 06, 2015, 03:43:36 pm
There will always be quality critique from people with greatly varying personal tastes and often good skill.
If one does not wish to improve, there is always DeviantArt.
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Post by: AshCrimson on April 06, 2015, 09:00:57 pm
Never take critique personally; everyone wants you to improve and get better. If something you're doing is wrong it's better to be told it, rather than continuing to perpetuate that mistake only to find it's been detracting from your work.

I've found that critique can be really helpful in giving you a more objective view on a piece/body of work; sometimes we all find ourselves at a stage where we're "settled" with what we do and that can promote resting on one's laurels and complacency.
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Post by: Pix3M on April 06, 2015, 09:10:05 pm
Personally, I wouldn't have left a critique here since it was pretty clear the intent was to share, not ask for a critique. Eh, damage has been done.

There will always be quality critique from people with greatly varying personal tastes and often good skill.
If one does not wish to improve, there is always DeviantArt.

Hey, don't be knocking deviantART as a place where you can just wallow around and never improve. It is a great place to just share your art. Surely not a place to expect critiques, but doesn't stop people from using multiple sites  ::)
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Post by: Idera on April 06, 2015, 09:20:26 pm
There will always be quality critique from people with greatly varying personal tastes and often good skill.
If one does not wish to improve, there is always DeviantArt.

I've been on there for 4 years... so...



Personally, I wouldn't have left a critique here since it was pretty clear the intent was to share, not ask for a critique. Eh, damage has been done.

Lol... pretty much.



Never take critique personally; everyone wants you to improve and get better. If something you're doing is wrong it's better to be told it, rather than continuing to perpetuate that mistake only to find it's been detracting from your work.

I've found that critique can be really helpful in giving you a more objective view on a piece/body of work; sometimes we all find ourselves at a stage where we're "settled" with what we do and that can promote resting on one's laurels and complacency.

I know that part. Just that.. it kinda feels unusual being critiqued in that type of way... sounds more rude than helpful. It would be better if they did it more politely. Plus i'm kind of feeling a bit stupid when people say this is the wrong place to post this and not even directing me where to because I can't tell where to exactly put this at specifically.
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Post by: yaomon17 on April 06, 2015, 11:03:01 pm
If you are JUST looking to share artwork and NOT looking for critique I would post in the Daily Sketch forum (http://wayofthepixel.net/index.php?topic=16253.1250) or better yet the General/Creativity forum (http://wayofthepixel.net/index.php?board=1.0)

Also, it is probably better to have each of your responses all in one post. It would be more convenient for people to read and would update the topic less.  :)
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Post by: Decroded on April 07, 2015, 04:47:35 am
the video did end with a question.
I answered the question honestly.

personally I can't get my head around an artist who isn't open to critique.
I've learned SO much from participating in this forum from the ppl kind enough to share their views and its all constructive and valuable.
some opinions are much better than others but sometimes I've ignored advice only to reflect on it later and realize they actually had a point eg tidbit said some of the art for my game needed more saturation but it wasn't until I loaded it all in-engine that I realised he was right...
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Post by: Ai on April 07, 2015, 07:07:33 am
If you are JUST looking to share artwork and NOT looking for critique I would post in the Daily Sketch forum (http://wayofthepixel.net/index.php?topic=16253.1250) or better yet the General/Creativity forum (http://wayofthepixel.net/index.php?board=1.0)
Do we have anything intermediate? Like, 'This isn't a major project so I don't want to make a whole thread for it, but if anyone has crits, they are appreciated and hopefully I will make an update incorporating them'. Neither the Daily Sketch thread nor the OT-Creativity thread seems to match that -- for both of them, critique seems mildly discouraged, as you say.
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Post by: Ryumaru on April 07, 2015, 08:24:43 am
the video did end with a question.
I answered the question honestly.

personally I can't get my head around an artist who isn't open to critique.
I've learned SO much from participating in this forum from the ppl kind enough to share their views and its all constructive and valuable.
some opinions are much better than others but sometimes I've ignored advice only to reflect on it later and realize they actually had a point eg tidbit said some of the art for my game needed more saturation but it wasn't until I loaded it all in-engine that I realised he was right...

From what I can read the artist is open to critique, but as a newcomer, might need a more gentle approach.

To OP: if you're looking to improve this piece don't worry, you're in the right place. If you post the image and are up to it, someone here can take a stab at editing it and try to fix things that can be done better. Much more can be told visually, and edits can be more polite than words alone.
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Post by: Pix3M on April 07, 2015, 09:53:49 am
personally I can't get my head around an artist who isn't open to critique.

(As a frequent deviantART user...)

It depends on why you draw. Of course, people who frequent this site will find critique to be incredibly normal, and a very routine part of what we do.

For others, like casual "I just draw for fun" people more likely to frequent a site like deviantART rather than a forum like this, art is more of a personal thing. If you critique a personal thing, you're basically critiquing a person. For some people, critique is something you don't normally get, and something you never got adjusted to receiving on a regular basis.

The first critiques I got, I did not take well because I took it as a blow to my ego. It takes time to adjust to a lifestyle where critique is an typical part of the drawing process.
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Post by: Wes on April 07, 2015, 11:51:37 am
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There will always be quality critique from people with greatly varying personal tastes and often good skill.
If one does not wish to improve, there is always DeviantArt.

I've been on there for 4 years... so...
It shows.

But ya dude. What Ryumaru said.  share the image itself and not the video, so we have something we can work with to help you.  ;D
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Post by: AshCrimson on April 07, 2015, 04:02:55 pm
Deviantart is for a more specific type of pixelart; Dolling etc, is that correct? (Have limited experience with it myself)
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Post by: lachrymose on April 07, 2015, 04:05:37 pm
Nah dA has all sorts of pixel art. But by far dolling and sparkle dogs are more prominent than other forms.
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Post by: AshCrimson on April 07, 2015, 04:11:57 pm
Nah dA has all sorts of pixel art. But by far dolling and sparkle dogs are more prominent than other forms.

...Sparkle dogs?  ??? :-\
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Post by: cels on April 07, 2015, 04:42:34 pm
Haha, I personally love this atmosphere on Pixelation. It's like walking into a wrestling gym and hoping that everyone is going to be really nice and gentle with you. Nope, they're going to call you on every bluff and make you very aware of all your mistakes. Tough love. If you have the fortitude to deal with it, you'll learn a lot in time, usually getting your ego severely bruised in the process. If not, then... too bad. I'm exaggerating a little bit, but there's certainly the same meritocracy here that I'm familiar with in sports. It's quite nice.

That being said... I just googled 'sparkle dogs' and threw up a little bit on my shirt.
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sparkledogs

@Idera: I hope you do share your full picture instead of just that video, so people can critique it. A lot of work went into that piece, which suggests you have a good work ethic. And a cool, eclectic taste in music.
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Post by: lachrymose on April 07, 2015, 04:55:56 pm
Nah dA has all sorts of pixel art. But by far dolling and sparkle dogs are more prominent than other forms.

...Sparkle dogs?  ??? :-\

Just google it, you'll see.