Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: Seiseki on October 15, 2014, 11:39:31 pm

Title: helicopter
Post by: Seiseki on October 15, 2014, 11:39:31 pm
So I've been working on this helicopter for more than an hour now and I still don't quite like it..
I've just been trying to work up to the point where it looks good, but I've yet to reach it..


It's missing something, perhaps it's just boring because of the side view.
But it's for a sidescroller so I can't add much perspective..
Title: Re: helicopter
Post by: Cyangmou on October 15, 2014, 11:58:44 pm
some quick thoughts.

Title: Re: helicopter
Post by: Seiseki on October 16, 2014, 12:58:52 am
Nice! The way you shaped the tail looks great!
I'm tempted to try it, but I also want it to look sorta like a Huey.
The gray rims and nose makes sense, but when I tried it, it popped out too much..

I've been redrawing panel lines and moving things back and forth.. But I'm not really sure if it's getting better or worse..



Ok, I need to stop going back and forth on this.. Better look at it tomorrow with fresh eyes..


It did made me re-evaluate this tank though, which was extremely dark..


I also realized just now I've been doing this with f.lux active which lowers the monitors color temperature during the night.. It's probably gonna look way too bright tomorrow..  :blind:
Title: Re: helicopter
Post by: Seiseki on October 16, 2014, 02:34:10 pm
Did some more work on the helicopter and I made another variation of it, for troop transport :)


Also, this guy:



Can't seem to figure out how to animate a rotor that spins really fast..
But I have a few ideas.. I've never really learned to animate fast motion and motion trails though..

Title: Re: helicopter
Post by: Seiseki on January 09, 2015, 06:58:41 pm
Finally got back to working on this.
A few more vehicles and more characters..

Title: Re: helicopter
Post by: Pix3M on January 10, 2015, 02:20:06 am
Fewer the frames, faster it can animate


In future cases, animating with very few frames is gonna sound very choppy from intuition, but it's how to space your frames from point A to point B that affects smoothness, not how many frames you necessarily make

EDIT: Wait, I just realized that you name is familiar. How did we get confused about the animation speed? O__O
Title: Re: helicopter
Post by: Seiseki on January 11, 2015, 03:06:08 am
Haha, yeah, I meant rather, how would I draw it when it's spinning at max speed..
I did try doing what you've done, but I never posted it. And I realize now that what I did post seems like the actual attempt :D

What I actually ended up with was this..
Kinda weird though, haven't really seen it in action yet..


Title: Re: helicopter
Post by: Pix3M on January 12, 2015, 02:36:50 am
Aha, I think I know what you mean now, and I have a really stupid trick to show you



Tried to merge frames from your other WIP following this trick I'm using, but only managed into a 4-frame animation where 3 is more ideal, and that it's so foreshortened that it wouldn't read well

Title: Re: helicopter
Post by: Seiseki on January 26, 2015, 11:55:52 am
This is what I ended up with, following your guide, thanks!  :)


More vehicles and sprites..


Edit: Ops, linked the same image twice.
Title: Re: helicopter
Post by: Decroded on January 27, 2015, 10:31:07 am
loving all this stuff dude keep it coming :y:

not digging that rotor blade at all tho, the colours or the animation.
i actually think pix3m's 2 frame animation is better.
u could experiment with other ways too such as theres a coloured tip that blurs off behind it...

also suggest to refer back to cyangmou's edit where the glass was nice and shiny and stuff.

i personally think the blue background competes too much with the sprites and could back off the saturation a touch but that could just be me, at least u have adequate outlining to pop the sprites.
Title: Re: helicopter
Post by: Seiseki on January 28, 2015, 09:07:51 pm
I've already spent too much time on the rotor animation though..
And I'll see what I can do about shininess, to me there doesn't seem to be that much difference though.

Also, you're right when it comes to the background. I'm probably gonna completely recolor it.
The terrain might be too saturated as well..
Title: Re: helicopter
Post by: Decroded on January 28, 2015, 11:11:47 pm
Cyangmou's image host is blocked from where I am but i remember thinking the white bits in the glass gave it a nice shiny look.

Actually the blades animation kind of has that cool effect of something that looks slow because it is going so fast. I think its just the colour that makes them look like they're made of glass which ruins everything for me.

In my mind, its OK for terrain to be saturated because the general rule is that its something important to gameplay (even if this isn't actually a game, it resembles a game).
If anything maybe there is too much contrast for example the presence of black in the top half of the tile.
I think the tiles look really cool but to my eyes this causes them to compete too much with the sprites, so I would think about toning it down a bit.
Then again thats only my opinion so it might be just me.

Your little guys are so cool but I can't help lolling every time I see this :lol:
Title: Re: helicopter
Post by: Cruckz on January 29, 2015, 02:22:40 am
Loving the style of all these little guys and everything you are doing here! Reminds me of my cannon fodder days  ;D The police car and all the little guys have so much character too em, they're great! Will try to give some critical feedback but it looks like you've had quite a lot for the helicopter and I think its looking pretty good.