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Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: Lazy Brain Games on November 13, 2013, 10:43:35 pm

Title: Large 3/4 view NES figure (nude)
Post by: Lazy Brain Games on November 13, 2013, 10:43:35 pm
Hi all! I'm working on doing an big NES character within a 3/4 view. Things seem okay on the top half, but the I'm feeling a bit lost on the bottom half (insert pun). The hips are a bit troubling; I know I should be seeing the top of them somehow, but I'm really grappling with how to make it read right. Its also hard to know if its lit correctly.


(http://www.lazybraingames.com/wp-content/uploads/naked_2.png)

I feel like I'm kinda close to having something that makes sense, but anatomy and foreshortening are both areas I'm not that strong in. Any pointers are greatly appreciated!

UPDATE

(http://www.lazybraingames.com/wp-content/uploads/naked_31.png)

I think I have a better handle on this now, technically I think I'm not supposed to be seeing the top of the hip as much as the top of the posterior (at least slightly). I feel like the lighting is working better, but I'm sure there's room for improvement. Any insights into the proportion or general execution are more than welcome!
Title: Re: Large 3/4 view NES figure (nude)
Post by: (BYOND)Hebrons on November 14, 2013, 01:59:34 am
give it an k neck & relax the sholdiers
Title: Re: Large 3/4 view NES figure (nude)
Post by: (BYOND)Hebrons on November 14, 2013, 02:29:39 am
(http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/5695/qzip.png)

example ^

Good Luck
Title: Re: Large 3/4 view NES figure (nude)
Post by: Johasu on November 14, 2013, 02:56:55 am
There are a lot of ways to help yourself with this.  You started with a weird wobbly canister/cake model which didn't help your perspective attempts.  Perhaps a stick/wire frame with balls for joints and structures would have worked better to shape it.

At any rate the struggle lies in this particular angle you are aiming for which is sort of hard to find a good reference for online.
I dug one up for you.
http://learninganatomy.tumblr.com/page/2 (http://learninganatomy.tumblr.com/page/2)  <-- Near the very bottom of that page you will find a pose very similar to your goal that should help you out with your problem.

If you can't find a pic on the internet or in a book. Use real life. Find a doll or toy and pose it.  ~Or get daring and try a real woman~.  ::)

I like the way the image in the link uses the box frame to illustrate the spacial shift and sizing differences.  Maybe that will help you with yours.
Title: Re: Large 3/4 view NES figure (nude)
Post by: Tapsu on November 14, 2013, 08:00:07 am
maybe you want to try
http://www.posemaniacs.com/category/gender/female (http://www.posemaniacs.com/category/gender/female)
Title: Re: Large 3/4 view NES figure (nude)
Post by: Lexou Duck on November 14, 2013, 07:06:54 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/2KnfQoS.png)

so i messed around with a bunch of stuff to try and show you how you should manage the proportions and anatomy
(sorry there's AA but that way you can see what ive changed and hey just try and make your own instead of using my edit as a basis)

i willingly didnt touch the face but bear in mind its really not feminine atm

EDIT: hmm didnt notice how broad these shoulders were...
Title: Re: Large 3/4 view NES figure (nude)
Post by: ptoing on November 14, 2013, 07:26:21 pm
Here is an 8 head female mannequin from ZBrush at a 45 degree angle, with and without perspective (orthographic).
Maybe this will help a bit.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15588722/8hfemale.png)
Title: Re: Large 3/4 view NES figure (nude)
Post by: Johasu on November 14, 2013, 07:30:14 pm
I feel like these edits are missing the 3/4th view he is aiming for.  That is above at a sort of 45 degree angle.  Not top down or directly in front of.
Title: Re: Large 3/4 view NES figure (nude)
Post by: Lazy Brain Games on November 14, 2013, 09:50:35 pm
Wow thanks for all the references guys! I'll take this all in and get an update out soon.

I totally agree that the shoulders seem too broad, but I think 3/4 might just be an unflattering angle lol. Same goes for the legs; it hard to know if what I'm doing reads weird because of the angle or because I'm a bad artist  :P

Thanks so much for all the input! Once I have the proportions down I can move onto give the figure some gesture (bending the hips, etc).
Title: Re: Large 3/4 view NES figure (nude)
Post by: tehwexxl0rz on November 15, 2013, 02:28:47 pm
Sloppy paintover, hope it helps:

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2032434/lazywoman.gif)
Title: Re: Large 3/4 view NES figure (nude)
Post by: wolfenoctis on November 16, 2013, 05:46:08 am
Some quick and really rough thoughts:
(http://i42.tinypic.com/6fxibs.png)