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Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: Tremulant on June 30, 2006, 04:05:11 pm

Title: The incredible spiderman needs your help! *New stuff added 07/01/06*
Post by: Tremulant on June 30, 2006, 04:05:11 pm
First drawing of spiderman in like.... 10 years! I love that little guy...

Old:
http://h1.ripway.com/tremulant/spidey.PNG

New:
(http://h1.ripway.com/tremulant/spidey2.PNG)

Anyway, I have no idea how to go about the background. Thinking of a cliché rooftop scene, but I don't want to detract from the characters, or add too many more colours... and, as always, general C&C is desired. So, tear me apart!

Update:

(http://h1.ripway.com/tremulant/vensin.PNG)

I got bored at work, and frustrated trying to knock out a background. Then came up with this. The anatomy is probably an abomination, but hey...

Oh, and apologies if the contrast is effed. The monitors here aren't calibrated, and I don't have the access needed to change 'em. :P
Title: Re: The incredible spiderman needs your help!
Post by: Helm on June 30, 2006, 04:29:46 pm
I think Venom's arms are extremely too long for his legs. But it might be a style thing. Go with the rooftop background, full effect, nighttime maybe (you'd have to reverse the raindrops) and you won't need more than one more ramp.
Title: Re: The incredible spiderman needs your help!
Post by: AlexHW on June 30, 2006, 05:47:10 pm
I think venoms face and tongue need work. I remember his tongue being more squigly and he also has a bunch of sharp teeth..
As far as composition, I think spideys right arm(the one pointing down), could be repositioned so that it is more outward like he's going to attack venom, and not just fly into him. Maybe venom's back leg could be repositioned so that it isn't overlayed by the front one, it make him look like he is just standing still at the moment with no action.
overall though, it looks cool, can't wait for a background.
Title: Re: The incredible spiderman needs your help!
Post by: 8bitty on June 30, 2006, 07:02:46 pm
(http://img450.imageshack.us/img450/2582/edit2wn.png)
i did this edit pretty quick, but here's what i changed

-The leg positioning, he looked asthough he was going to trip up - make the legs look more springy, like he's ready to attack
-The joint from the leg to the ass, smoothed it out a bit
-The tounge, venom had that big long slimey tounge in the comics - make it look more like that
-Teeth
-Eye

apart from those small crits, i love it to bits ( '-')b

Title: Re: The incredible spiderman needs your help!
Post by: Skull on June 30, 2006, 07:19:10 pm
Nah - That eye edit doesn't seem right. See-
(http://www.e-yamashiroya.com/f/5f/rah/venom/venom_2_260.jpg)

The tounge, looks better, aswell as anatomy.  ;)

As for the original image Trem, I love it - Looks great so far... I would yes, suggest sort of a roof top like background, and yes, keep it simple. Truely fantastic work.
Title: Re: The incredible spiderman needs your help!
Post by: .ImygE on June 30, 2006, 08:34:56 pm
I really like this piece overall. Spiderman seems perfect. As for Venom, I think you make the jaw and teeth more exaggerated. 

As in this picture (http://www.keystar-r-s.com/reviews/pics/comics/marvel/Venom.jpg)

Good work so far. Hmm I would love to see Carnage as well.  :D
Title: Re: The incredible spiderman needs your help!
Post by: Lick on June 30, 2006, 10:59:54 pm
I love the colors and love the shapes. Good work so far. I can see that the poses need work like told above, but overall, I like where it's going!

Good job!
Title: Re: The incredible spiderman needs your help!
Post by: Silver on July 01, 2006, 11:51:13 am
Tremulant you are the most sparking and energized pixel artist I've seen around!
you always choose solid subjects and add your awesome coloring touches around!

as for this piece I would recommend you adding a background because the rain effect doesn't go really go fun without a background!
Take care!  :)
 
Title: Re: The incredible spiderman needs your help!
Post by: Tremulant on July 01, 2006, 04:17:06 pm
Updated with a face-lift for venom.

Helm: The arms do seems too long, and it wasn't, honestly, a stylistic thing (more of a careless-with-the-anatomy thing) but... I think it looks alright, so I may or may not change it. Actually, given the crits so far, I'll probably be changing the positioning of the straight arm at least, so I'll screw with it then. Rooftop is in as a background, but I'll talk more about that in a sec...

AH-W: Face was carelessness again on my part ;D I've fixed it, though, I hope. As for the positioning, I'll be playing with that, cause the majority of people seems to think it looks a bit flat/motionless/static atm.

8bitty: I think I addressed most of you points, minus the leg, which, again, I'll be moving.

Skull: Used your pic as co-reference with .ImygE's when reworking the face. Thanks, 'cause I had a hard time finding good ref pics (what the hell? How is it hard to find pics of Venom... again, I have failed! :P)

.ImygE: Thanks for the pic. Co-reffed with skulls for face, as I mentioned. I might do a carnage pic later, 'cause this has reminded me that super heroes/villains are fun to draw ;D

Lick: Haha, see? Everyone's on the poses ;)

Silver: Thanks, Silver. I will definitely add a background, most likely (like, 90% likely) a rooftop... which brings me to my next request/point...

The background... yeah. I'm having a hard time finding suitable reference pics (just googling images, 'cause that's the best I've got :P). Coming from a small town and having had few occasions to actually visit skyscraper-esque rooftops, I have only a very vague idea of where I'm headed. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. Even better then an actual rooftop pic, imo, would be like, a pic of a rooftop drawn from the actual spidey comic (for that 'authentic' feel :P) but anything that might help is more than welcome and appreciated.

Thanks for the crits guys! I'll be working the poses now, see what I can do. Updates soon.
Title: Re: The incredible spiderman needs your help!
Post by: Skull on July 01, 2006, 06:33:36 pm
Well, from experience, I know finding a decent Venom ref. Picture is rather hard.. >:(

As for background.. I always imagined a Marvel rise of the imperfects stlye one..

http://www.cheatcc.com/imagesps2d/marvelnem_000.jpg
http://www.juegomania.org/Marvel+Nemesis:+Rise+of+the+Imperfects/fotos/gamecube/0/585/Foto+Marvel+Nemesis:+Rise+of+the+Imperfects.jpg
http://ps2media.gamespy.com/ps2/image/article/652/652323/marvel-nemesis-rise-of-the-imperfects-20050920104913188.jpg
http://uk.media.ps2.gamespy.com/media/681/681938/img_2923068.html

Hope they come in any use.
Title: Re: The incredible spiderman needs your help!
Post by: Sampe on July 01, 2006, 06:40:07 pm
I think the eyes could be a bit bigger, and you could add a little more flesh on the legs. However, I suppose that's just a stylistic thing, so it doesn't really matter. And I have still one more thing to say: the lights on the characters could be bit more brighter because of the water, which reflects light pretty well. :)

But at this moment, it's looking very nice. Good luck with the rest of this piece. :0
Title: Re: The incredible spiderman needs your help!
Post by: Turbo on July 01, 2006, 08:52:23 pm
This is great, man. The characters essence is well captured, and it's nice to see a more "comic realistic" style from you.

I imagine them fighting in a sewer, and the rain is coming through a large hole on the ceiling, created most likely by Venom's knack for destruction of public property. But that's just me, i like sewers.
Title: Re: The incredible spiderman needs your help! *New stuff added 07/01/06*
Post by: Tremulant on July 02, 2006, 02:16:24 am
Updated. Added a new Venom piece, explained above :P

Skull: those are definitely better than the pics I came up with. Thanks!

Sampe: Good point about the contrast. If they're wet, it probably should be higher, given that I imagine both to wearing rather, uh.. shiny costumes.

Turbo: Sewer might actually work, since I'm having quite a time making a rooftop look the way I imagine it should :P good call :D

Thanks guys, keep the crits coming. Hopefully I can finish this one eventually :P
Title: Re: The incredible spiderman needs your help! *New stuff added 07/01/06*
Post by: ndchristie on July 02, 2006, 03:09:08 am
the only problem i have is that spider man doesnt look as though he is swinging really, based on the shape of his body.  you may want to adjsut that to gibve it more movement.  other than that, no crits, this is top notch like pretty much all your work :D