Pixelation
Critique => 2D & 3D => Topic started by: Corinthian Baby on February 07, 2013, 04:41:50 am
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In need of some practice for environment concepts/painting in general, I sketched out the location from a screenplay I wrote back in '09.
The concept is supposed to be a mixture between old jazz-centric Chicago and desert slums. Here is a refboard of the look/inspiration going into the art direction:
(http://i.imgur.com/BnW7CoN.jpg)
Here is the painting itself so far:
(http://i.imgur.com/xpuJtJy.png)
Trying to establish a solid workflow. I sketched with perspective guides, added some basic block greyscale colors to establish values, and then traced my sketch for a separate line art layer. I want to make sure the perspective's on point before I progress further. Any CC welcome.
I realize how hard architecture is to draw accurately but why not throw myself into it full force to help learn?
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I think your point of view is too high, especially if you compare your photo references where the camera is placed at the eye level. Try to emulate the human point of view : this way we can have a much better sense of scale and immersion.
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What you have right now seems pretty solid as far as the perspective goes. Tim's point is valid, but would require a complete redraw. If you have a specific reason for the high vanishing point, or don't mind it, then continue on; otherwise, it would of course be better to redraw now as opposed to trying to change things later down the road.
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That looks like a prefectly fine perspective for an establishing shot. a certain amount of distance might be a perfectly ok effect
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Well I liked tim's suggestion so made some adjustments as I was advancing this:
(http://i.imgur.com/DoJTDRu.png)
Since I am going about this in a different method, I am not sure if I should abandon or adapt the line art drawing. Picking up some great tips from this guy who has done work on Uncharted 2/3, one of the most inspiring games for me as an artist:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NygkJEc3yu4
Recommend for anyone pursuing environment painting/concept art. :y:
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i dont understand tim's advice
you could also ask him to draw a forest instead of a city...
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Corinthian: It would require a completely new drawing for the lower horizon piece. " Adapting" it would not really work. I would try and keep the curve at the end of the street from the old composition into the new one, I think it adds a lot to the piece and keeps it from feeling like a 1 point perspective class assignment.
thank you for posting that link! Never seen this guy before, really liking his tutorials already.
HardcoreBadger: tim's advice was that since the horizon is so high, the viewer is looking through something much taller than a human. Lowering it would allow us to relate to the piece in a different way, closer to us being "in" the scene.
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It would require a completely new drawing for the lower horizon piece.
Sup, Ryu. Actually, with forms this basic, I think breaking the image up into 3 parts - left side of street, right side of street, and middle area, then moving/transforming (in Photoshop) each part could be a quick fix. Left and right sides would get a skew transform, and the middle could simply be moved down. Vertical lines would stay vertical, and horizontal lines' angles would all change. *places hat overturned on ground and waits for quarters*
Just make sure you end up with something you like. Looking at your rough-ins so far, they don't seem to have any sort of focal point. Rather, all the viewer's eye gets to do is wander around the different buildings, because the center is just blank, flat street.
So, after all the work you do rendering, just make sure your end-result is effective.
How many times have I completed a detailed image only to sit back at the very end and be like, 'Ok . . . wait, this is pretty boring' . . . I got caught up in the details.
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You make some good points, Mathias, but for record's sake I had taken this further, and it got lost in the server crash.
(http://i.imgur.com/Qf3jnHG.png)
Not totally satisfied with it and haven't worked on it in a while. I want to come back to it
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Ohhhhh, some posts from this thread got lost, too. Bummer.
Welp . . . if you post updates, I'll check 'em out. Your latest images gives me an austerely simple vibe. Overyl blocky/basic/geometrical.
But! If you're bored with this project, maybe starting something new would better for you.
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The reason I wanted a break from the city image is partly for that reason. I felt I wasn't quite ready for such an advanced, architecturally dependent perspective drawing. I was also itching to flex some newly learned skills with some quasi related ideas. Tried one chara and one environment (a simpler one from nature).
I wouldn't call these finished either, I jump around a bit, but any crits would be appreciate. I included the refs for comparison.
(http://i.imgur.com/Z76Mp7I.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/H19Dh9c.jpg)
With the kid I was def struggling with the anatomy/proportions. Kids have these strange physical distortions like bigger eyes and ears. I had to deviate from the ref a bit in order for him to read younger.
The cliff scene I am pretty happy with but is obviously not finished. I need to love on the textures more and then introduce some color. Both of these utilize the technique/brushes Shaddy uses in the videos I posted earlier. Some of the measurements might be off in the cliff, but it gives the same general impression/composition. If it's major I'll address it but the minute appropriation can drive you mad if you let it obsess you.
As Shaddy says, "How true to the thing do you make it vs. how much do you stylize it to make it more sexy/awesome."
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This image reminded me of this thread.
(http://i.imgur.com/uIbzhA6.jpg)
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Ah yeah same architecture style that I'm going for, save for the slanted rooves. You might call is desert palazzo. Thanks for sharing :y: