Pixelation
Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: Dhaos on June 11, 2006, 04:23:39 pm
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Doing some frame rate tests for my project. Deciding on 10fps or 20fps animations.
*perspective is at 30degree tilt or so
(http://www.crystaltechstudios.com/summoners_legacy/ch_hu_m_idle_s.gif)
-base frame/proportions
-lower legs a few px too long
(http://www.crystaltechstudios.com/summoners_legacy/ch_hu_m_walk_s_2.gif)(http://www.crystaltechstudios.com/summoners_legacy/ch_hu_m_walk_s.gif)
-torso sways and turns too much
(http://www.crystaltechstudios.com/summoners_legacy/ch_hu_m_walk_w_2.gif)(http://www.crystaltechstudios.com/summoners_legacy/ch_hu_m_walk_w.gif)
-head turns now, delayed the hand from 'dropping' back by a few pixels
(http://www.crystaltechstudios.com/summoners_legacy/ch_hu_m_swing_s_2.gif)
-fixed?
(http://www.crystaltechstudios.com/summoners_legacy/ch_hu_m_swing_w_2.gif)
-strike might be wrong (was hard to render at this perspective so it may be off)
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That's amazing. The animations are just so smooth and bouncy.. You show much depth in the picture also.
The only wip that I don't like is the side view. If I look at the parts I can see your smooth animating skills but as a whole, it kind of feels stiff. And the swings are good but the pose is a bit unstable. You could move the feet more apart (horizontally) and make him bend his knees just a tiny little bit more.
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Lick, you've got a point with the side-view walk. He is indeed too stiff. I'll make sure to deal with that soon. As far as the swing, I'm not too sure, I was able to stand and swing like that. However I may have missed something (or perhaps something got deformed due to perspective) I'll take some more time to see whats wrong. Thanks for pointing it out.
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my only concern is the tiny head in the sideview which is an easy fix, and that in the front view walking anim he turns his hips and his chest far too much; hed be on his way to the chiropractor before ever reaching the enemy. Im glad you realistically animated the sword swing, especially with the left arm thrown back to balance, though i think the feet should be wider apart, and the stance more angled towards the camera. stand in front of a mirror and try that swing. it works, but its so awkward. spread your legs more and try it again. you can feel the difference in the power of the swing and the fact that your ass wont be screaming 'wtf' at you as you do it.
all in all looks great. what sort of battle engine is this for? like an RO/Baldur's Gate fighting style?
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I didn't really notice the head problem on the side view walk oops x_x. I see what you two were trying to tell me about the swing, I think I misinterpeted how I was swinging in the mirrior. I'll get to work on it.
Adarais, lol yeah I really need to tone down that front view twisting. I'm aiming for something very close to baldur's gate. You got your hero/heroine and his 'summons' pretty much.
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i think the stiffness of the side view is a non-issue, especially if he will be suited in armor.
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Try walking. Your crotch stays almost still while walking, while the one in your pixel shakes around heavily. Same with the chest muscles, they jirk around...
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BUMPITY BUMP BUMP! *see first post*
Added a new animation "swing left" and tweaked the other anims. Going to be working on some temp tiles now.
@Ryumaru: True, except the characters won't always be wearing heavy armor ^^U. Cloth is evil EVIL I SAY!
@Gil: That was an accident, the hips got shifted over while I was animating it. A very poor mishap on my part. I think I fixed it mostly now?
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The swing west animation seems much weaker than the swing south one. The motion blur looks better if it doesn't last more than one frame, and his arm should follow-through a bit further. Maybe raise up the attack angle a bit too, it looks like he's slashing at someone's knees. (This would be alright if there was more than one angle of attack.) The sword also looks shorter.
The south walking animation need a lot more work still as well. It seems a bit disjointed, especially since the head stays perfectly steady left and right (it should), but the body moves around in an odd fashion. Not really sure how to describe it... If you want, I'll see if I can do an edit for you when I get some time.
The west walking animation is not bad at all, though he doesn't appear to be looking in the right direction, I think the eye is a bit too far on the side of the head.
All that said, I really love the swing south animation, it's excellent.
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Pawige, I've tried everything I could with the 'south' walk. You're more than welcome to edit it. You are right about the west swing, I'm trying to fix that right now. The sword looked so short because I over did the perspective >_<. I can't think up an excuse for the low swing angle though so *tweak!*
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Well, it's certainly not perfect yet, but I think the biggest thing was the way the body was moving up and down. Tried to smooth everything out so it moves in smooth cycles. I didn't really change a whole lot but I hope it helps some!
(http://paul.gerla.us/ch_hu_m_walk_s_2.gif)
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Thankies pawige, your walk flows alot better and smoother than mine. I'll be studying it for a bit now.
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I think the front walk could use a little more work. As a man, I find it quite difficult to walk with my knees and thighs together. Coupled with his elbows being close to his sides, it's more flamboyant than intended. I'm not saying he should walk completely duck-footed, but it would look more natural if his feet pointed outwards a little.
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i actually think that Pawige's edit isnt as good as the original.. you lose a lot of the style of your original and its massively stiff imo. i think big brother gets it closer to the mark, but that actually isnt a placement issue, its an anatomical one. if his legs were anatomically correct and his feet were too then they would be a perfectly fine width, though as it is you may want to thin them or space them out a few more pixels
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These look amazing. :) Can't wait to see characters in motion.
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First post, and these look really good. I love the walking and the Fighting render. And I'm also wondering if i can use your base for your person? I would give credit and what not i just figuare asking before taking.