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Critique => Pixel Art => Pixel Art Feature Chest => Topic started by: Kcilc on June 09, 2011, 06:11:59 am

Title: GR#053 - Lingerie? Really? - Anatomy, Pose
Post by: Kcilc on June 09, 2011, 06:11:59 am
Yup.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/Daroge/Pass10a.gif)

It's obviously not finished, and I'll be dressing her in due time. I wanted to get the anatomy down before venturing into clothes land, so anything that I've screwed up yet? I'm not sure if I'm sold on my palette either...it just seems off. I'm terrible with skin tones, so any critique would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: Lingerie? Really?
Post by: Corinthian Baby on June 09, 2011, 10:10:03 am
You've got some volume going on. Hard to crit with noting to compare it to. You got a ref?
Title: Re: Lingerie? Really?
Post by: EyeCraft on June 09, 2011, 11:23:55 am
(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z212/gastrop0d/edits/Pass10a_ed.gif)

Really digging it.  :)

Just quickly altered the proportions. Ignore any screwy stuff I inadvertently introduced.
Title: Re: Lingerie? Really?
Post by: Glak on June 09, 2011, 02:39:59 pm
As far as I can tell all you did is make her torso short and stubby.  If the original had different hair and was wearing glasses it would look exactly like my girlfriend.
Title: Re: Lingerie? Really?
Post by: Helm on June 09, 2011, 03:12:55 pm
(http://locustleaves.com/Pass10c.gif)

I do think that edit is in the wroing direction, EyeCraft.
Title: Re: Lingerie? Really?
Post by: Helm on June 09, 2011, 03:59:34 pm
(http://locustleaves.com/1324.png)

face edit for my own enjoyment, hope you don't mind
Title: Re: Lingerie? Really?
Post by: st0ven on June 09, 2011, 04:11:36 pm
well edited sir helm. i do also believe some lengthening was in order and in particular shortening up that one arm. I do think though that eyecraft was onto something (just too extreme), if you were to take Helms edit and perhaps shorten the torso a bit. That ribcage feels like it should be much closer to the pelvic bone than it currently is if shes supposed to be crunching her torso slightly in on her left side. The new hand edit looks muuuuch more natural, but id like to see the finger tips be more extended to match the opposite hand.

Id like to see any refs if they exist as well.
Title: Re: Lingerie? Really?
Post by: yrizoud on June 09, 2011, 09:37:29 pm
Intuitively, I would have done the same proportion adjustments as EyeCraft, as it matches the most frequent morphology I see around me (no matter how skinny or chubby). After a bit of, err, research, I can see how some girls have such a long spine and relatively short leg bones.
Title: Re: Lingerie? Really?
Post by: Chris2balls on June 10, 2011, 12:30:58 am
the hands and the torso are completely out of proportion. i've also had doubts regarding the angle of the torso in relation to the position of the arms. i've made a lot of other little tweaks on the following edit:
(http://i.imgur.com/IhVEl.png)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/Daroge/Pass10a.gif)(yours as a comparison)

hope it gives you some ideas!
Title: Re: Lingerie? Really?
Post by: EyeCraft on June 10, 2011, 12:51:39 am
Yeah I've used a bad measurement for the head size, so it compacted the body too much. If you took the approach I used, but were more accurate about it, I believe it would vastly improve the proportions.

The torso is REALLY long, the legs too short. That's the biggest problem I see.

And please, please follow Helm's hand edit.  :)

Chris2Balls, I feel like you have lost the gesture in that edit. Though I really like how you softened the musculature.
Title: Re: Lingerie? Really?
Post by: Kcilc on June 10, 2011, 03:25:16 am
The reference might be hard to come by. I used this (http://www.pixelovely.com/gesture/figuredrawing.php) nifty thingy to find it, so if you wanna try your luck to come across my ref, be my guest. I mirrored her btw, so the ref is facing the right.

Thanks everybody for all of the critique and edits! I've tried to take everything into consideration, and here's the result.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/Daroge/Pass10c.gif)
Better, worse?
Title: Re: Lingerie? Really?
Post by: EyeCraft on June 10, 2011, 03:54:08 am
It still feels like the torso is really stetched to me. I made another attempt at measuring:

(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z212/gastrop0d/edits/Pass10c_ed.gif)
Title: Re: Lingerie? Really?
Post by: Kcilc on June 11, 2011, 01:46:09 pm
Here's my last shot at getting the torso right. I hope it looks better now! I mostly just messed with the inside. Thanks for the help, Eyecraft.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/Daroge/Pass11a.gif)

I think I'll be starting on her clothes and refining now unless there's still something glaring.
Title: Re: Lingerie? Really?
Post by: Ryumaru on June 11, 2011, 11:52:49 pm
Torso is fine, eyes are too large for the perspective. it's a hard angle to get right, but currently the size of them is making her look a little cartoonish.
Title: Re: Lingerie? Really?
Post by: Kcilc on June 12, 2011, 01:52:40 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/Daroge/Pass11f.gif)

Clothes, and heh I noticed her eyes were completely too big when I opened them. Do the new ones work any better?
Title: Re: Lingerie? Really?
Post by: piffany on June 12, 2011, 06:58:17 pm
The legs still seem too short. As for her right hand, is it supposed to look like she's shooting at the sky or just doing the same pose as the left hand? If it's the latter, then her middle finger (on the right hand) should bend slightly.
Title: Re: Lingerie? Really?
Post by: Elk on June 12, 2011, 07:43:54 pm
(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/7039/indicator.png)