Pixelation
Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: Arylic on January 13, 2009, 05:37:03 am
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Hey everyone. This week i am entering the competition with a style ;) and i need to work on my artwork before deadline and win :Dat least 3rd place :y:. I need you guys help to help me in every step i take in the development :(. So here is my work in progress 1 from line art.
(http://i40.tinypic.com/dvpqwo.gif)
wip 2
(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/3907372a76.gif)
wip 3
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2zywv3n.gif)
wip 4
(http://i41.tinypic.com/a3zbif.gif)
Hopefully i can win this if i work hard and straight for 6 days remaining. ;D
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He needs more chin. It is too thin (from the front of the chin to the back of the jaw). Try googling some pictures of people in profile and seeing how far back their chin goes.
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I didn't get what you said... ??? can you explain in brief please.
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I agree with Salty, Your understanding of facial anatomy, has lead to the head being to small. Go find a reference..! And don't expect to win competitions at this moment if time..Those people have been pixel artists for allot longer than you have and so know more, do more and get a better finished result. But you have the right mind set to get far :D
So find a reference and fix fix fix those line art problems before you get to far.
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Ok i did some improvements and here is my base colour w.i.p 2.
(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/a37775aff7.gif)
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I would consider working much more in the line art before coloring if you want to try and win. I quickly edited the face so that the ear was in the correct position, and sloppily drew a jaw just to show you what I mean in my first post. Remember that the distance from the inside of the eye to the chin, is the same as the distance from the outside of the eye to the back of the ear.
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2znq0bp.png)
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Now the the boy looks all odd and funny....lol....but ill improve a bit on the chin and the ears.
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the eye looks like its in front view. you should adjust it to profile view
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I think all of your pieces suffer from jagginess. It looks like you're using the line tool to draw everything, I really don't recommend this. Draw everything pixel-by-pixel, unless it really is straight, sharp, and/or mechanical. Not like a human face.
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Little update.
(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/bb12396ec0.gif)
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Update 3.
(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/3907372a76.gif)
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Good idea, good palette. The main problem is the not very exciting composition I think. I tried to remake your image with a more interesting composition and perspective
thoughs:
* use a long canvas and not square (I know max. 200x200, but use height=200, width<200)
* use a more interesting composition
* use a more plastic perspective on the face (not straight side view)
* use the shades to sculpt the forms
* don't go for a win, just have fun
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c62/markusrosse/pixel/arylicedit.png)
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You know what ??? i am actually gonna submit 2 now :D first of all i am gonna complete this one and the follow rosse's idea and make it as my second cool ehh ? so any suggestion on this art please ???
Any ways rosse can you please resize that example of yours to 200x < 200 margin please ?
ill basically follow your perspective really nice,.
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Ok...i have a idea now. ;D ill do my best on my current art...with your help :y: and then when i have submitted that ill start working on the rosse's one cause i wanna take time and make it as a very cool project. SO any more critics and improvements on the current one please. ???
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I don't know. You are kind of refusing to put any work in to make your piece better. I don't think I've seen you take on board one piece of critique so far and they were all very valid. You've already got a lot to work on. Come back when you are ready to work on something yourself and not have another person edit it for you.
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Lol, how funny that this topic goes exactly the same as on PJ :p
First the image, than useful crits, than an update with no use of the crits, than at the end an edit, and then even more comments instead of a new image.
They also both end with a samelike post xD
/offtopic
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Ok...by a healthy pointer by scamcore i am gonna do what you guys say but at the same time ill also add my stuff and what i think is right.
Ok salty i made the chin and the jaws a bit wide .
Kazuya mochu i improved the eyes to profile view.
Rosse. I added the perspective to the sea and also some minor details.
Any more comments on this ? ???
Update wip 4.
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2zywv3n.gif)
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Ok i am working more on this , i think for about 2 more remaining days to make it more interesting and hopefully be off atleast any value. :-[
edit
Another wip.
(http://i41.tinypic.com/a3zbif.gif)
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hey arylic,
i have a couple of pointers/ crits about this.
-the nose isnt shaped where the nostril open to where the whole nose goes onto the face.
-your jawline is too round make more straight lined.
-the hand waving in the air, firstly thats some major dissability to have a gap like that in that thumb. firstly it looks like he doesnt have any volume in his hand, thirdly it looks like it is obese
-the teeth make him look like hes buck toothed
-the hair is unnatural in how it just magically goes to strands at a certain point.
-the dithering makes it look messy especially on that hand in the corner
-the water looks like it was done by randomly placed spikes. water is flowing not spiky.
-the bubbles look placed, i was looking at a fish tank filter a while back and the air doesnt go into a ball nor does it squish together vertically its more horizontally
-the eyebrows light source is muddled, dont forget it.
-the outlining, is unnatural and in some places (arm, bits of overhanging hair on the face.)
-i think Rosse's edit was mainly to show you that hes sinking... and so his hair should be grouping up (sorry Rosse if that wasnt the message you were trying to pursue)
-speaking of the hair... in the pool/water your hair doesnt clump, unlike this the hair looks clumped. individual strands.
-the eye wheres the darkness for the iris gone? you had it in earliest ones but it just dissapeared.
i think thats it (sorry if its rudely over-sized list i was trying to get them all so not many others have to post)...looking back maybe more than a couple
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Thanks balls01 ill take your comments in consideration but i may disagree on some pointers.
- The jawline was straight but as salty said it needs more round and bigness.
- The hair is meant to portray that its going up because the guy is coming down.
- Look at rosses water its sot spikes it that he is falling from the surface.
the rest i am improving it thanks though.
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righto more detail on those crits
-i mean how it stands up on the outline but nowhere else.
-Rosse's spikes are more liny and less triangular and unnatural
- as for the jawline (http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:6WJTK7LFJxYumM:http://shuttlemusic.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/strongdefinedjawline.jpg) look at this reference i found her jawline doesnt start curving so soon. and wheres salty's post? i dont see it...
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ubar-quick edit incoming..
(http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/7497/blaih7.gif)
Your piece has some huge problems in the following departments:
- palette: you used a blue as if it was brighter than the more green blues in the face which looks pretty strange..
- anatomy: theres much wrong here, but being bad at anatomy too I couldnt fix everything. Still the nose and the upper area of the mouth seem very out of place.
- the hair: dont think of hair as one mass with a few extremities sticking out.
- shading: if you dont know where the light and shadow should be placed, try finding references
This was like I said only a very quick edit, and actually rosses was much better, but since you didnt want to change the perspective, I thought I could show you that you can fix many issues without changing the perspective.
The hands might be the biggest problem I didn't touch here.
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Ok , heres my second last wip. After this ill take some more comments and make my final piece. so hopefully i updated it with the criticts.
(http://i40.tinypic.com/34yo3df.gif)
Need last minute critics so hurry up guys.
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Ok , heres my second last wip. After this ill take some more comments and make my final piece. so hopefully i updated it with the criticts.
(http://i40.tinypic.com/34yo3df.gif)
Need last minute critics so hurry up guys.
I'm thinking the water should be dithered instead of that spiky shading you've got going on. You can still use the 4 or 5 colours you have to do it (although since its last minute, you might be pressed for time).
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You might want to read this thread again for a lot of "last minute critics".
Theres plenty of mentioned things you can still fix.
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@ endpiece - Thanks, ill try to dither it see how it looks like.
@ Philipptr - I did but i can't find a reasonable one the all require more time.
Any more fast critics ?
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Everything has been said, especially in those 2 edits, but you won't listen, except if its very easy to edit. Study those edits, not just look at them!
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@ Philipptr - I did but i can't find a reasonable one the all require more time.
Any more fast critics ?
Not true. Changing the palette doesnt take much time. Correcting the angle of the nose, doesnt take much time. Fixing the strange bubbles (I think this was mentioned at pixeljoint) doesnt take much time.