Pixelation

Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: Capta1n_Henry on May 07, 2016, 04:23:22 pm

Title: Clone Trooper Helmet
Post by: Capta1n_Henry on May 07, 2016, 04:23:22 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/3AMDRgm.png)

So I've been in a creative rut for a while and I thought I'd make this to get some creative juices flowing. Feedback would be appreciated. I based it off this: http://www.imperialshipyards.net/SMF/index.php?topic=7477.0 (http://www.imperialshipyards.net/SMF/index.php?topic=7477.0)
Title: Re: Clone Trooper Helemt
Post by: odedrt9 on May 07, 2016, 05:07:52 pm
There are no shadings whatsoever, thus it looks flat.
Try looking into it and apply shadings, it will make that several folds better! :D
Title: Re: Clone Trooper Helemt
Post by: Capta1n_Henry on May 07, 2016, 06:38:30 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/JCgTwiP.png)

I think I fixed the shading problem
Title: Re: Clone Trooper Helemt
Post by: eishiya on May 07, 2016, 06:44:18 pm
Where is that light coming from? You've added a halo of lighter colours just inside the lineart, but you haven't added shadows or light. Light shows the imagined 3D form of the object, but what you've done is just followed the 2D shape of it.
Title: Re: Clone Trooper Helemt
Post by: Capta1n_Henry on May 07, 2016, 06:50:06 pm
Where is that light coming from? You've added a halo of lighter colours just inside the lineart, but you haven't added shadows or light. Light shows the imagined 3D form of the object, but what you've done is just followed the 2D shape of it.

Crap, its supposed to be coming from the back but now I realize how bad that is. I'll try to make come from the front now.
Title: Re: Clone Trooper Helmet
Post by: Capta1n_Henry on May 07, 2016, 08:04:48 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/wuebNkA.png)

Ok so I made a light source in front of him. Am I on the right track with this?
Title: Re: Clone Trooper Helmet
Post by: Mnots on May 07, 2016, 10:15:51 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/wuebNkA.png)

Ok so I made a light source in front of him. Am I on the right track with this?

Good effort! You're still giving off a very flat form, though. The issue being that the light doesn't seem to imply any sort of curve/overhangs/grooves/etc on the helmet. From the way it looks, it seems like you focus more on the shape of your light when shading than the shape of your object.

Here's a quick reference image with some tips laid out:
(http://i.imgur.com/DNooUnm.png)
Title: Re: Clone Trooper Helmet
Post by: Capta1n_Henry on May 08, 2016, 01:10:10 am
I don't quite understand the picture but what I got was that I need to make the areas on the helmets edge darker? And that I also need to make all the ridges and stuff darker?
Title: Re: Clone Trooper Helmet
Post by: Capta1n_Henry on May 08, 2016, 04:14:38 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/CheN6Ta.png)

Ok this is what I came up with.
Title: Re: Clone Trooper Helmet
Post by: Pusty on May 08, 2016, 05:05:26 pm
I think it's a bad idea to place the light source to the point the viewer sees from.
I makes it looks pillow shadish.
Title: Re: Clone Trooper Helmet
Post by: Capta1n_Henry on May 08, 2016, 05:32:12 pm
Awww man. I thought I had a good thing going too. But I see your point.
Title: Re: Clone Trooper Helmet
Post by: Capta1n_Henry on May 08, 2016, 06:26:33 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/AiGVFXY.png)

Made another edit
Title: Re: Clone Trooper Helmet
Post by: heyguy on May 08, 2016, 08:50:07 pm
I think it would be better to use a 3/4 view for the helmet. Your edits are improving this piece though. If you still want to use this front perspective, I think you should find some reference so you can simulate the shiny plastic look of the troopers. You should place your light source somewhere that helps you define the 3 dimensional quality of the helmet. I recommend putting the light source on the upper leftish area. Check out some of these pics!

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb4/star-wars-the-clone-wars-roleplay/images/5/50/Wiki-background
http://www.starwarshelmets.com/2009/efx-aotc-helmet_comp.jpg
http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0346/5761/products/ProductPage01.png?v=1450383908
http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/57/dea890f31af3401e999014fd19ea1fe9/l.jpg

I don't think the harsh black lines are working inside the helmet shell. I understand that might be a stylistic choice though.
Title: Re: Clone Trooper Helmet
Post by: Capta1n_Henry on May 09, 2016, 03:26:05 am
(http://i.imgur.com/lmGD1hQ.png)

Made a semi-edit. Kinda just wanted to get the idea down before I go to bed
Title: Re: Clone Trooper Helmet
Post by: ShowMeYourMoe on May 10, 2016, 03:17:25 am
You might want to remove some of the detail on the helmet in order to make it easier to work with and a tad more readable
Title: Re: Clone Trooper Helmet
Post by: BadMoodTaylor on May 14, 2016, 02:23:42 am
I agree with taking some of the detail off while working on the shading. It still looks really flat. Think about the curves with perspective too—the star is completely proportional even though on a curved surface. Some of the shading is getting there but the shading in straight lines doesn't really come off as shading.

Don't give up! Practice makes perfect, if it's difficult then it means it's a good learning opportunity.