Pixelation
Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: Tyler-Kun on April 01, 2007, 02:56:48 pm
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I need help! I need someone to help me with my pixel art, i want to be as good as some people on here.
All of you make characters,platformers,iso things and great pictures. Will someone please teach me or lead me to excelent tutorials?
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You know you should pay attention to ptoings reply in this other thread you created. (http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?topic=3716.msg47050#msg47050)
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I know, he said ask for help!
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We can't help you if you don't post anything you've made.
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(http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/8578/untitled1wu3.png)
The problem is, i have ideas for platformers ect. But i cannot do texture or draw rocks and i want to learn how. All of you have such depth to your pictures and i want to learn
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In the General Discussion forum there are a bunch of video tutorials in a thread, it's stickied. There are a few dealing with platformers in particular, and how to make rock textures and etc. Just watch through it and then try to apply it to your lines.
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My computer will not play the file >.<
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You need to download the techsmith plugin which Helm links to on the first post of that thread.
We are here to help, but not to hold your hand. Please try to read the posts and show some patience.
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**Bastards. :mean:**
http://pixeljoint.com/pixels/new_icons.asp?dosearch=1&ob=search&search=platform
a quick search over at pixeljoint also returns a multitude of results of platform mockups, just more stuff to learn from and observe.
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In the platformer mockup video, what program is it? GraphicsGale?
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Cosmigo Promotion http://www.cosmigo.com/promotion
The lite and demo version do not have the awesome auto tile completion feature Helm is using in the video tho, which is the best thing since sliced bread as far as tiles go.
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How can i get the auto tile thing?
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By buying the full version. :huh:
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I downloaded it, and guess what i foun, that works. Auto tile completion. But i cannot seem to get the grid up that he did on the video. And when i try to do grass it just messes up. Do i just put it anywhere?
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Read the manual of the thing, really. Make a search for "grid". Use your goddamn brain!
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You really should be more patience.... take a deep breath and start searching the forums... internet etc to find all stuff you want to know
everything is out there.... when you have done your first pixelwork, return here, post it and we (them) could help you out
patience is the key to increase your skill
//Albin
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I am being patient, thats why i am following everything you all say.
I have searched all over the internet, on the website and on the actual program and found nothing.
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uhm... you should be able to find something^^
http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?topic=3467.0
http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixels/tutorials.asp
didn't even use the search engine :P
there are different kind of techniques how to make surfaces... the first thing though is to learn basic light direction, its hard ( I haven't master it) but its vital for the outcome of your image.
first to texture you image... figure out what kind of colour you want... then, from where the light are coming....
(http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/6882/untitled1wu3bj0.png)
this is a good start... practice the light to begin with.... read tutorials in the links above...
come back with a nice picture for us to comment ;)
//Albin
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Grid
The grid can be used to let a brush snap to an invisible grid which you can define freely.
So a brush dot is only set on the cross points of this grid.
§ switch the grid on
§ select one of the built in brush shapes
§ select the single dot painting and try to draw something
This tool is also useful if you want to create tile based or symmetric graphics.
It's on their website. their own ****ing website. ::)
Anyway, if you're going to be doing tiles, i'd suggest working with 16x16 tiles instead of this freeform thing you have going on, unless it's supposed to be a sort of 'ground' image, such as in Worms or something of that effect.
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Before asking around just check the manual (Help > Contents) and read everything you don't know about.
Also experimenting wouldn't hurt.
If you want to get better, just practice, and learn by studying other people's works, reading tutorials or whatever.
Don't expect people to feed you just because you have your mouth open.
If this thread continues this way, I'll lock it.
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(http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/8578/untitled1wu3.png)
the red thing actually looks like yus' nose O_o
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I think the Promotion manual barely addresses the Auto-Tile complete feature. Luckily I posted what I could figure out from Helm's video here:
http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?topic=2144.msg34413#msg34413
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I took all you said into consideration, but i don't think i will be using pro motion. I used photoshop for this peice, i used refrence to someone's peice on here but the background looks bare. What can i put on it?
(http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/4980/betacopydm2.png)
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Great :y:
maybe more stars and some nice planets inte the background....
the sky could have some more colour....
your on good track ;)
//Albin
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Hmmmm, how would i add the planets? Round and detailed lol :P
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(http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/9360/betacopydm2ur1.png)
hope you see my point
maybe red, purple other coloured planets...
so... simply more detailed background
//Albin
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I think it would be good if you made your own mockup instead of copying Grindie's: http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?topic=3713.0 Not only are you repeating his flaws, but you have added many of your own to the mix. Serendor, your edit does not help in the slightest.
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Well, I tried to help... just show how to improve it... its crap I know...
Not good to copy other stuff like that.... :mean:
//Albin
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Don't shout at me. I used it as a refrence. Thats what i got told to do to get better. So if you arent going to help, please dont post in here again
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follow AdamAtomic advice...
do an entirely own image... using reference means looking and take inspiration from it..
I wasn't shouting..
//Albin
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Don't shout at me. I used it as a refrence. Thats what i got told to do to get better. So if you arent going to help, please dont post in here again
If you are going to copy other people's pixel art without crediting them and without bothering to learn the fundamentals, and do nothing but pester people about software that has a manual and extensive coverage in the pixelation tutorials, then I would suggest that YOU don't post in here again. If you don't want to hear tough feedback, then this is probably not the right board for you. If you think advice isn't helpful, then this definitely isn't the right board for you.
Your piece is so full of pillowshading and unplanned detail that it is very clear you are just copying someone else's stuff, and not even studying the parts that they shaded properly, much less thinking about the structure and trying to improve on their work. My comments were intended to derail this approach to "art". If you want to make art, observe REAL LIFE, PHOTOGRAPHS, and the TECHNIQUES OF PROFESSIONALS to guide you, not random half-finished pieces that will perpetuate the bad habits you've already formed.
Also, if someone told you to look at Grindie's piece for reference, then A) they simply shouldn't have said that, and B) you clearly should not have listened to them. If you are unable to tell even what you should be emulating, then you have some serious thinking and studying to do. Sketch, paint, practice, and above all THINK. These are the things that will further your skills and talents!
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Right Ok. I am doing my own right now!
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[WIP]
(http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/5499/mouckup1ty6.png)C+C Needed
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Sky isn't that bad, but those rocks are WAY too pillowshaded.
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About rocks (underground) - paint this as on link, which I am give you (mirage post some work from Henk Nieborg). Rocks have more sharp corner, but you paint smooth too much this (i have similar problem ;D ).
And if you want learn paint rocks - just take a SIMPLE task from youself - paint cube and do from him a rock, to rest upon lessons and comments another people.
Now you repaint work another people, but in there too much detail, which you not can paint, not for a while yet.
And for understand form different objects paint simple thing (apple, tree, table, stone), maybe now paint picture it is too early?
It's just my advice to you, not to do offend you!
If you do this you will make personal style and technics, with help another people and their technics.