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Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: Pt0GG98 on January 10, 2015, 12:43:17 am

Title: What is your honest opinion? {Edit}
Post by: Pt0GG98 on January 10, 2015, 12:43:17 am
Hello,

I am new to this forum, and would like some feedback on a piece of pixel art I made. I have attempted to create my own art style, and am very pleased with the outcome. I would like to hear your thoughts on the overall design. My goal is to become better at this medium, so  be honest. You won't offend me :)

(http://piq.codeus.net/static/media/userpics/piq_260440_400x400.png)


I am trying something different. Overall, I really liked how my design turned out,with the colors and all, but the thing that bugs me is the shading. Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

(http://piq.codeus.net/static/media/userpics/piq_260905_400x400.png)

Also, should I have made a separate post, or am I fine just adding on to this one? I would like to follow the rules to this forum :)
Title: Re: What is your honest opinion?
Post by: Decroded on January 10, 2015, 12:56:44 am
http://wayofthepixel.net/index.php?topic=5624.0
Title: Re: What is your honest opinion?
Post by: Rosier on January 10, 2015, 01:01:07 am
Creating your own art style is bound to be a difficult task, especially considering that your sprite looks quite a bit like Superbrothers Sword and Sorcery.

http://www.swordandsworcery.com/storage/spot_archetype.png?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1338488531357
http://www.swordandsworcery.com/picture/retrohd.png?pictureId=5057041

Don't get me wrong, it looks pretty great, though.  I would probably up the contrast of the shirt/bandolier and maybe remove a few of the extra colors like on the scarf and hair.  Too many different colors clutter it up and make it harder to animate if you would ever want to.
Title: Re: What is your honest opinion?
Post by: Pt0GG98 on January 10, 2015, 01:34:13 am
I appreciate the feedback, Rosier. Yes, I am aware that my art looks very similar to the "Superbrothers" style, and I will try and change that. And since you mentioned it, Sword and Sorcery was an amazing game.
Title: Re: What is your honest opinion?
Post by: PixelPiledriver on January 10, 2015, 02:04:51 am
Think less about style and more about process.
Improve your ability to make choices, delineate, and construct an order of doing things.
This can in many ways lead to similar result to another style.
But it will more than likely give you a much more interesting and distinct way of interpreting objects than just borrowing preconceived ideas from others.

This is not to say you should not think about or disregard the styles of others.
Influence from others in your art will always exist.
Just if this if your intention for this specific piece:
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I have attempted to create my own art style
You could do with better thought balance on what you are trying to accomplish.

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My goal is to become better at this medium
Keep it up.
Grind away.
Title: Re: What is your honest opinion?
Post by: Gil on January 10, 2015, 02:35:15 am
"If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants."

Don't try to be completely original. Why would you? No one is.

The sprite style looks great, no one cares that it's reminiscent of Superbrothers, just keep the pixels flowing :)
Title: Re: What is your honest opinion?
Post by: AlcopopStar on January 10, 2015, 06:01:37 am
Just to drive PixelPiledriver's point home,

Style isn't very often something created, it's more of a natural process, an accumulation of the artists tastes and tendencies. I don't often see much success when people try to force a style. It seems like it's trying to skip over an important process in order to get to the results. But it's the process that's important. Honestly that's the key word Pilerdriver used. Process. More and more i'm learning that art is really a conversation between you and your body of work, the more you think and do the more sophisticated and interesting that conversation gets.

As for the character himself, I like it. Though it feels like he is fading into the background a bit. Beyond a few redundant colours there isn't too much to crit at this resolution.
Title: Re: What is your honest opinion?
Post by: Decroded on January 10, 2015, 02:52:46 pm
I don't ppersonally get much out of noodle legs style but it seems to be pretty popular.
Try experimenting with different scales and try various more natural poses and perspectices that don't consist if straight lines at single pixel width.

Don't try too hard to settle into a "style" early on.
Title: Re: What is your honest opinion? {Edit}
Post by: Rosier on January 10, 2015, 11:17:40 pm
The red guy still has a large amount of unnecessary colors on it, and I feel the brown highlights don't match up from on either side, especially on the legs.
Title: Re: What is your honest opinion? {Edit}
Post by: Decroded on January 11, 2015, 06:58:15 am
Please don't post everything so scaled up.
100% is preferred or 200% if you must.
Title: Re: What is your honest opinion? {Edit}
Post by: PixelPiledriver on January 11, 2015, 12:17:56 pm
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Also, should I have made a separate post, or am I fine just adding on to this one? I would like to follow the rules to this forum

There are no hard rules on the matter and you are free to choose.
Edit new content into the original post, or add a new post at the bottom.
Personally I think it's nicer to keep the linear flow of things with new posts in order.
That way there is clear interaction between the users and the art.

To extend the conversation on style more, here's some of my thoughts.
Warning: its very rambley.
It's quite all right to mimic, study, draw with, gain influence from, and even merge styles.
This is a very common and healthy practice among artists.
But there is a lot to consider when doing so.

In a way style belongs to the image.
Not to the artist.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3NjM4NVFIuU/U3JzD2s-WxI/AAAAAAAAJoE/G_7ImFS1Noc/s1600/ascii+shooter.png)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_0ddJHPHr654/SsKvXx2ZagI/AAAAAAAAAA4/-XHcl0-TAcE/s1600/Drawings+-+3_00000.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_lsYyv6Icos/TiWL6BVVjxI/AAAAAAAAAso/bwVUse47JK8/s1600/hardware.png)

I drew all three of the above.
Are they MY styles?
Or are they images that I drew that look a certain way?

With consistent use a style becomes known for an artists use of it.
But there is nothing stopping that artist from creating an image with a different style that would not be considered "their style".
Or another artist taking "their style" and making use of it themselves.
Or another artist developing a very similar style independently without knowledge of the other.

Style functionally serves an image to help it be what it is.
You can draw an object one way to give it a certain feel.
Or draw the same object another way for a different feel.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CSCJx7yn5OM/VLJO3sTifOI/AAAAAAAAAOM/HZG2uD1IMA4/s1600/marios.png)

There are many different properties within a style that can be used to define cohesion.
Some are good to show similarities among objects, others are better for creating variety.
In general, it can be said that the most important property for cohesion is light.
The way that it interacts with objects, the number of passes rendered, how materials are represented, how contrast and separation of form are dealt with, etc.
Even objects that are very different, if they exist within the same world they will be presented within the same lighting concepts.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-h4_8yN2CNEE/VLJiaWeajxI/AAAAAAAAAOg/eo2Sb7J-KwA/s1600/SFIICast.PNG) (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-D1bU8Z1mIas/VLJiaPHDmaI/AAAAAAAAAOc/XEih7X4W2J4/s1600/Kof-vs-SF-11.png)


Cohesion means very little without comparison.
It takes a collection of objects to define a style.
Comparing them with each other will help you construct what it is that makes them separate from each other but unified as a group.
And comparing them with another collection of objects with a different style will help you see what they have in common and what makes them unique.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-EXYXmIvuBzs/VLJnyWGBS5I/AAAAAAAAAO4/4-AJhgQ59TU/s1600/Low-Poly-C4D.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-K7hhAez3yU4/VLJnyIj2rZI/AAAAAAAAAO0/0-CJWjLa17Q/s1600/fevrchar.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-i-O1XuSp5UM/U3Jy8wQHSbI/AAAAAAAAJmc/lOex8Cde240/s1600/ColorCharConcepts.png)

When studying a style you may think that it has certain rules or limitations.
But you should be careful with such thoughts.
Especially if art is still being worked into the style of choice.
The artist might add new content that you previously thought fell outside the guidelines of the style.
Is it now a new style?
Will you integrate the new concepts into your studies?
Is it important to divide the generations of the style?
Or will you take parts of the style that you find useful, and alter other parts with your own ideas?




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I am trying something different. Overall, I really liked how my design turned out,with the colors and all, but the thing that bugs me is the shading. Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZjOc1Rzpes8/VLMtyK0WH4I/AAAAAAAAAPM/o0ifS_LAXj4/s1600/space%2Bdude_3.png) (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Hy4FRX_lulU/VLMtyJBoCoI/AAAAAAAAAPQ/8suzRgC68DQ/s1600/space%2Bdude_3_Frames.gif)