Pixelation
General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Helm on March 03, 2009, 04:30:20 pm
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The topic above is misleading. I do not think pixel art as we know it and it formulated in early 1980's was informed of how the Italian masters worked. I do however think important artistic parallels can be drawn between the techniques of artists separated by 15 centures of history, and that in itself is a very useful lesson. It shows us that good artistic practices are independent of 'pixel art tech' as we have defined them here, and how also common faults we see in pixel art are seen in their art as well which tells us again that they are more an aspect of general draftsmanship than they are pixel-art specific errors. Let's look at some scans I've done from details from various religious sites in Ravenna:
(http://www.locustleaves.com/mosaic/mosaic01.png)
First of all this is an important picture to show the actual scale of a lot of these images and the 'intended res' they should be viewed at. Also it's worthwhile so we can appreciate that they didn't have no clone tool or anything and everything is made bit by bit, not even floodfill! (I guess this shields them from allegations of being NPA :D)
(http://www.locustleaves.com/mosaic/mosaic02.png)
Let's look at this amazing detail. Note the expressionistic color palette... hue shifting towards blue on some leaves. Check out the colored outlines around the fruit. Look at the highlights on the rims of the basket. Solid black outlines on the basket to separate it from the foliage too. As usual in Byzantine art, strong and saturated dark colors are the norm, seeming to glow with an inwards - divine - radiance. Look at the artist trying to reconcyle the religious dictum of how things should be shaded (blanket-shaded was mandatory! inwards glow!) and still give it a few naturalist highlights like in the fruit or rims.
(http://www.locustleaves.com/mosaic/mosaic03.png)
Let's look at this proto-Mondrian painting. Check the palette vibrance. On decorative strips is where a lot of these religious artists got the chance to express something more than they were told. This is very easy to repixel too. Look how every stripe practically hue-shifts.
(http://www.locustleaves.com/mosaic/mosaic04.png)
Sorry for book shine, I didn't want to slaughter it. Here is a great example of the Byzantine 'inwards glow' on the faces and clothes of the angels. Look at the gold background, that is Heaven.
(http://www.locustleaves.com/mosaic/mosaic05.png)
Say hello to emperor Justinian. Not a very pleasant fellow, hm? Brilliant man, though. This is an amazing piece of art in my opinion. Check various face shades, some more red, some more brown. Imagine looking at this above you in the ceiling suspended in the Heavens, enshrined in golden grace, judging you with that stare. The point of religious art is to impress upon the viewer their punyness as in relation to the divine. And Justinian felt it useful to be thought of as divine. Job well done, then.
(http://www.locustleaves.com/mosaic/mosaic06.png)
A bit of humour then! HAY GUYS WHAT'S UP. I love this bird. I love the vibrant colors I love the amazingly pronounced hue shifts in its feathers, I love the black outline (the fore leg breaking out of) and generally I love everything about this. I might repixel a copy of this to use as an avatar later!
(http://www.locustleaves.com/mosaic/mosaic07.png)
And also here's some MoSaic Paint pixel art!
(http://www.locustleaves.com/mosaic/mosaic08.png)
Here's a mockup. Useful to see how the elements look in relation and more from afar. Check out how the white bits around the pieces don't show so much but make everything appear a bit glowy.
So, feel free to post more mosaic art, discuss it or even repixel bits and pieces in our modern tech and see how they'd look!
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Yey! Interesting topic. I've been thinking about this as well and I've been looking for a mosaic that strictly follows a grid, but haven't found one yet, at least not one that'd be as old as these. Cross stitches (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_stitch) however must by necessity follow a grid, so in that area we have some good examples of classic pixel art.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/50/Cross_stitch_detail.jpg/800px-Cross_stitch_detail.jpg)
From mid twentieth century.
(http://www.dabbledoo.com/ee/images/uploads/gamertell/Etna.jpg)
This one is.. more recent. ;)
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I can actually see some flaws that I would immediately critique if it were to appear on these forums. Very interesting! :)
Does the "inward glow" sometimes tend towards the artist using what we'd call "pillow shading"? I can see traces of a pillow-shade approach on most stuff you describe as having that glow property...
I think you picked up on it by calling it blanket-shading. I'm trying to remember what that term signified, but I'm drawing a blank. Is it the gradient sort of shading approach?
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(http://www.locustleaves.com/biblestories.png)
gbc restrictions.
Yeah, Gil, blanket shading is when you shade something from the contours gradually becoming brighter towards the middle. It also looks like flash photography in the mosaics.
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(http://www.locustleaves.com/mosaic/mosaic03.png)
Let's look at this proto-Mondrian painting. Check the palette vibrance. On decorative strips is where a lot of these religious artists got the chance to express something more than they were told. This is very easy to repixel too. Look how every stripe practically hue-shifts.
That's no Mondrian, it's a mockup of an oblique-view tile-based maze game.
I looks kind of like the classic Risc OS maze game, Bynzantine Labyrinth:
(http://surtspixels.googlepages.com/byzantine_labyrinth.png)
:P
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Yeah, Gil, blanket shading is when you shade something from the contours gradually becoming brighter towards the middle. It also looks like flash photography in the mosaics.
Yeah, as I thought. Basically a variation of pillow shading. I guess if it's dictated religiously, you can't really deviate from it.
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Looks kind of like? That looks like exactly the same thing.
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Dusty hehe surt is fucking with you :P
edit: yeah, blanket/pillow shading, my bad, I don't know why my brain went for the blanket. I guess the body was cold with just a pillow? We mean the same thing.
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muahaha I beat you to it Helm :) :P
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I'd love to see your interpretation too, though (or anyone else's).
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skamocore, you missed that the beak and foreground leg break the black outline. I think that's the challenging part of that mosaic.
I can see why you liked the basket of leaves one, Helm. It has many of the techniques you like to emphasize in your pieces. Aside from the hueshifting and others you mentioned. It discards outlines when they intefere with either expressing light or form like in the leaves receding into the background and the fruits. I really like the fruits and how the radiosity is expressed. The basket is clearly a different kind of material as the bright white highlights clearly emphasize on hte otherwise dullish values. It's just a shame that the highlights transition so harshly. If I redo one of these it will probably be the basket so I can try to fix that part. I'm not sure exatly how, but I'm thinking little dot speculars.
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There's also pixel art with bricks and tiles.
The low-res façade of the smaller church of the Monte Berico complex in Vicenza, Italy (mediocre photo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25262919@N04/2851072838/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/25262919@N04/2851072838/); in context: http://www.flickr.com/photos/netnicholls/2349437259/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/netnicholls/2349437259/)) is a nice example, with remarkably flush white and red blocks forming crosses and diagonals.
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@crab: yeah you're right, now that I look at it it is pretty crappy, I really rushed it. I just blackened the beak and foot, since I thought it would look better that way. Anyway 'tis gone now :-[
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Hahah, this is a wonderful topic, Helm! I heard about them a while ago, but been reading this interview (http://www.8bittoday.com/articles/21/superbrothers) recently and this part drew my attention:
Using individual blocks of color to form a precise visual statement is a technique that dates back through the ages at least as far as 4th century Macedonia, arguably reaching its apex with the Christian mosaics of the byzantine empire eight centuries later. It is largely due to the impact of the pixel – that most basic unit of an electronic display – that these grid based pictures are enjoying a degree of uniqueness in the here and now.
If they only knew what we do nowadays! :)
Avatars were also popular: http://www.galenfrysinger.com/byzantine_mosaics_greece.htm (http://www.galenfrysinger.com/byzantine_mosaics_greece.htm).
(http://frysingerreunion.org/1/greece/mosaic01.jpg)
I really like this one, it has interesting feeling to it achieved by the yellow to blue hue shift:
(http://www.hartillart.com/images/image_dvds/dvd_christian_byzantine_mosaics.jpg)
but couldn't find a higher res picture. Is it in your album, Helm?
The image doesn't show up, skamo!
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Ah, the olympic method! I really respect and enjoy the work of Superbrothers. I wish that dude would come back to this forum.
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Yeah, so do I. Those pixel movies are very creative indeed! As far as I know, he released a limited hardcover recently and is running a blog (all the links are somewhere in the interview). Were he posting at Pixelation?! Under what handle?
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A long time ago, he posted a few times. I think he was 'superbros' or 'superbrothers' but his posts might be lost in the pre-pixelopolis days. Not sure . Anyway, imagine the impression he made on me that I remember him from these few sparse posts a couple of years ago or more, still.
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I think he used the handle onionhead on the old blue pix.
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Looking at the art in that link, I think I remember the guy. He posted a western themed piece in the same style. God, that really was a long time ago. Definitely in the blue pix days if I'm thinking of hte right guy.
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He posted a few pieces on Pixelopolis too. Awesome guy.
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Yey! Interesting topic. I've been thinking about this as well and I've been looking for a mosaic that strictly follows a grid, but haven't found one yet, at least not one that'd be as old as these. Cross stitches however must by necessity follow a grid, so in that area we have some good examples of classic pixel art.
My mom does knitting with machines and patterns from time to time, which I think uses a grid as well. I always think that I should make a pixel art and ask her to turn it to a shirt (we have the software and I think hardware to do so), but I never get around to doing so.
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He posted a few pieces on Pixelopolis too. Awesome guy.
Pretty sure he did not. What we have atm is everything from Pixelopolis and on, still same database. Feel free to try and dig up a post he did on here, I don't think there are any.
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http://www.superbrothers.ca/
quite a nice website he's got going on there.
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Pretty sure he did not. What we have atm is everything from Pixelopolis and on, still same database. Feel free to try and dig up a post he did on here, I don't think there are any.
I can see the image he posted in my brain (cowboys with long legs or something?), I'm currently trying to determine what background it was on. You're probably right