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Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: hiddddde on January 03, 2008, 11:47:01 am
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Hi,
This is my first topic here on Pixelation and I hope i'll get some good tips :P
This is a pixelart I just made for fun. It's from a drawing I made in Japan.
(http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/752/humanbody3eh6.png)
I know his hand doesn't look good but I'm working on his body at the moment.
*Hidde
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Hmm... 46 vieuws and no reply :p
But yea.. I worked forward and added some legs on his body.
(http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/1946/humanbodyfullxn0.png)
The shadow on his body doesn't fit in the whole picture I think. Just need and idea to change that.
*Hidde
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are you working on this off the top of your head? I'd advise you to just do a few minutes research, on google or something, there are more reference pictures and sites about how to go about the human body than you can shake a stick at. Atm it honestly doesn't make a whole lotta sense, you need to know the path you want to follow before someone can help you on your way.
You may not want to be 100% anatomically correct but knowing how to go about drawing certain parts of the body and knowing how to go about constructing it will help you in the long run.
This is a quick image search for comparisant, but I'd strongly suggest you research further.
http://turboatomic.com/media/1/20060803-Full_body_v5_small.jpg
The amount of views doesn't mean a thing, I could get hundreds but it wont mean people are just looking at my thread and leaving. Not everyone on this forum will know exactly what to say, because the human body is a complicated thing, I sure don't know how to draw it perfectly I'd be in the same boat as you, I just know from thread after thread on many forums that taking the time to understand your subject material is the way to go, lets say, look before you leap. Also I think there may be a lot of lurkers about too.
Aswell I think having a bit more contrast with your palette will help you too, the shading is there, but without a lot of contrast between the shades it will just look a bit flat.
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Weeh :O Nice man
Thanks It's so helpful
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Really, the only things I see besides the things that Terley mentiones are that the head and left arm look a little to big.
Is the right arm yet to be pixeled, or is it hidden behind the body?
Edit:
I know his hand doesn't look good
This image may help:
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4757/handslolwutsu5.jpg)
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I don't know sure about his hands :P I think I will search for a refference because I am bad at hands :P
Btw how about this?
(http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9379/umhandx9.png)
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His head is huge, redo that. Keep the legs, but change the knees so that they're lower and not as long, the legs are the best part thus far. The abs are too low and the chest is too large, but then again the torso in general is way too big. The arm should be less stiff, no one locks out their elbows like that, show him in a comfortable position. The muscles of the arm also look wonky, I suggest seeking references of human anatomy, arms in particular.
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His head is huge, redo that. Keep the legs, but change the knees so that they're lower and not as long, the legs are the best part thus far. The abs are too low and the chest is too large, but then again the torso in general is way too big. The arm should be less stiff, no one locks out their elbows like that, show him in a comfortable position. The muscles of the arm also look wonky, I suggest seeking references of human anatomy, arms in particular.
try looking at something like http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/2804/bodytutorialnp1.jpg (http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/2804/bodytutorialnp1.jpg)
or googling "human proportions".
also trying using more contrast between your colours it will make easier to see where your shading looks right/wrong
(http://animation.willfaulds.com/hiddddde.gif)
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Currently, the biggest issue is the anatomy. I don't think the head is too big, generally, because the head and the upper part of the chest are the only things which have the correct size-relation. I imported the pic into photoshop and used the transform tool to squeeze it into the correct proportions. Please consider I'm not a anatomy professional, I just used a anatomy table (7.5 head sized). Please use a ref and not my pic, because it's not 100% accurate
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c62/markusrosse/pixel/hidddddeanatomy.gif)
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Gah no, now the body is way too long.
Just lengthen the leggs (by taking away from the torso), make the head smaller and the arm/body less muscular OR the legs more muscular
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Gah no, now the body is way too long.
Just lengthen the leggs (by taking away from the torso), make the head smaller and the arm/body less muscular OR the legs more muscular
No not really? 8 heads is pretty much an average male body as far as I know.
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Edit:
(http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/3671/gebogenarmrs7.png)
(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7871/metlangearmer2.png)
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regardless of the head size, if you divide the rest of the body (chin down), the legs should be about half.
(http://xs123.xs.to/xs123/08015/Approx.JPG)
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see http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?topic=5633.0 (http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?topic=5633.0) for more reference
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Gah no, now the body is way too long.
Just lengthen the leggs (by taking away from the torso), make the head smaller and the arm/body less muscular OR the legs more muscular
No not really? 8 heads is pretty much an average male body as far as I know.
If you stretch a body up to 8 heads, you should modify it's broadness according to that. I thus should have said the body was too thin.
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hide - you're edit doesn't show correct proportions because each 1/8th segment must equal a head length (which is measured from the top of the skull to the bottom of the jaw). You're currently measuring from the top of the head to the top of the ear.
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(http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5583/shape10jo9.png)
something that ive been working on lately o-o
maybe its a help
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Woow.. wat a great help I would work on his size. Everyone thanks to help... :D
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Maybe no comments :P But for the people who want to see how far I am so far... I'm making the human smaller because I think it's better to begin small and than go bigger. And because this is my first humanly art I'm going to make him smaller
(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6964/normalversion1hx0.png)
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Move up the pants and the start of the legs 2 px, momve the right knee up 1 px and the left 2 px (this all from viewers point of view).
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Do you mean more like this?
(http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/1262/normalversion1pantsrs5.png)
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Nah, more like this:
(http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/6779/tempfi4.png)
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/6779/tempfi4.png
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use your palette to do the defining, have yourself a good set of colour ranging from light to dark and use those em to place in muscles and shading. Something like this, haha dont take the head too seriously.
(http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/6779/tempfi4.png) (http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/2598/editlolcy4.png)
You're still off with the proportions though if your trying to go by what people have said above.
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That torso has alot more depth, not just because of shading, it's muscle plasements and waist got a bunch of realism added onto it, nice one.
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hiddddde:
(http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee177/stevetera/man-stefano.gif)
perspective issues: assuming you wanted the isometric type. Hands and eyes were almost at the same height, while the feet were exaggeratedly perspectivated.
colors: didn't want to add a huge amount of contrast, since you seem to be really satisfied with the washed up look (it's one of the few things you have barely touched since your first post).
I did tweaked colors a little though, since I realized you did have quite a few skin shades, but they were all looking the same, because of the way you've used them.
So I'm suggesting the use of alternative moderately washed up colors.
Anatomy: Although your progress it's pretty clear to anyone following this post, I felt there's still room for improvement. One of the mistakes you've made: some muscle/bone volumes are represented with a line: abdomen, knees, chest... try to represent this with shades, instead of just drawing a line around them.
Shorts: the shorts I did are just crappy. :blind:
You could add a bit more contrast to yours, but mine are looking like two church bells.
Keep up the good job, mate! You're sure moving forward.
Cheers,
-Stefano
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Stefano
I looked to your picture and made this. Don't be mad if it looks a lil the same as yours.. But it was so helpful :o
(http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/8561/good3dq4.png)
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I changed his mussles on his chest a bit
(http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/6800/good6wp9.png)
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For my opinion is was to messy around his belly :P
So I changed it:
(http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9333/good8xt7.png)
Maybe some tips for the shadow on it?
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And another EDIT:
The shape of his arm was a lilltle bit strange because it went from big to small
So I changed the shape a bit. But now I'm with another problem. His legs have a bad shape and shadow...
(http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/8003/good9qn5.png)
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i'm glad to see you've started to break the outline from a solid colour (on the arm). that's shows good technical progression.
in terms of getting the legs right try finding some good reference to help you. there are websites setup to supply artist with good reference photos such as www.3d.sk/. you might manage with the preview photos there alternatively scourer google...
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You have some good tips for the outline . What the best way is to change the outline?
EDIT: I looked to the Reference and made some better knees
(http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3469/good11wi6.png)
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His torso is pretty long. I'd cut it down by one or two pixels, detail be damned.
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I tried to change a few pieces of the outline..
-> (http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/7720/good12al2.png) <-
EDIT:
I've changed his outlines. Hoply this is good..
(http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5333/good13gn3.png)