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Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: Capta1n_Henry on April 19, 2016, 07:56:07 am

Title: All of my work. Which ones are good and which ones are bad?
Post by: Capta1n_Henry on April 19, 2016, 07:56:07 am
http://imgur.com/a/5iYn5 (http://imgur.com/a/5iYn5) What can I do to improve?
Title: Re: All of my work. Which ones are good and which ones are bad?
Post by: Capta1n_Henry on April 19, 2016, 12:41:36 pm
Bump
Title: Re: All of my work. Which ones are good and which ones are bad?
Post by: lachrymose on April 19, 2016, 06:00:56 pm
Youll probably get more relies if you posted and worked on individual pieces. Nobody has the time to look an comment on your whole gallery.
Title: Re: All of my work. Which ones are good and which ones are bad?
Post by: Glak on April 19, 2016, 07:48:20 pm
Youll probably get more relies if you posted and worked on individual pieces. Nobody has the time to look an comment on your whole gallery.

Actually he did post one of his works in a thread and requested comment.  Then two people (myself and one other) replied to him.  He didn't reply or show any new work; our replies fell on deaf ears.  No one is going to waste time replying to him if he can't show that he even reads replies.

http://pixelation.org/index.php?topic=20081.0
Title: Re: All of my work. Which ones are good and which ones are bad?
Post by: Capta1n_Henry on April 19, 2016, 07:56:53 pm
Youll probably get more relies if you posted and worked on individual pieces. Nobody has the time to look an comment on your whole gallery.

Actually he did post one of his works in a thread and requested comment.  Then two people (myself and one other) replied to him.  He didn't reply or show any new work; our replies fell on deaf ears.  No one is going to waste time replying to him if he can't show that he even reads replies.

http://pixelation.org/index.php?topic=20081.0
I saw your replies at Midnight today AFTER I made this post. I'm sorry. I don't mean to be a jackass. I'm just kinda desperate to get better because I would like to be a game developer. Please forgive me.
Title: Re: All of my work. Which ones are good and which ones are bad?
Post by: PixelPiledriver on April 20, 2016, 05:43:28 am
Woah.
Weird energy in here.

Glak: please be a little more patient with new members.

Capta1n_Henry: your sins are absolved. *waves magic bread stick*

That said, take it a bit slower, one art piece at a time.
Work on improving the robot piece in the other thread with the advice you were given.
Put a couple hours into it and re-post.
Even if it doesn't turn out perfect make an update.
Title: Re: All of my work. Which ones are good and which ones are bad?
Post by: Capta1n_Henry on April 20, 2016, 01:22:41 pm
Woah.
Weird energy in here.

Glak: please be a little more patient with new members.

Capta1n_Henry: your sins are absolved. *waves magic bread stick*

That said, take it a bit slower, one art piece at a time.
Work on improving the robot piece in the other thread with the advice you were given.
Put a couple hours into it and re-post.
Even if it doesn't turn out perfect make an update.

Ok sorry.
Title: Re: All of my work. Which ones are good and which ones are bad?
Post by: supremeartists on April 21, 2016, 12:01:38 am
the reason the attitudes are like this is because there's a super egotistical group that formed out of the members here and they have driven away a lot of people

look no further than the slack chat to find this group, they frequently talk negatively about everyone there, it's no surprise that their negative attitudes are now leaking into the forum
Title: Re: All of my work. Which ones are good and which ones are bad?
Post by: trough on April 21, 2016, 02:41:00 am
the reason the attitudes are like this is because there's a super egotistical group that formed out of the members here and they have driven away a lot of people

look no further than the slack chat to find this group, they frequently talk negatively about everyone there, it's no surprise that their negative attitudes are now leaking into the forum

I do not recognize this group, but if you are bothered by something I said, hopefully I am not too proud to accept critique on my own behavior in a PM. Hopefully I am not the only one who feels this way.
Title: Re: All of my work. Which ones are good and which ones are bad?
Post by: Roach on April 21, 2016, 04:24:54 am
the reason the attitudes are like this is because there's a super egotistical group that formed out of the members here and they have driven away a lot of people

look no further than the slack chat to find this group, they frequently talk negatively about everyone there, it's no surprise that their negative attitudes are now leaking into the forum

If people talk behind other people's backs in private that's their business. You shouldn't let nay sayers stop you from participating in an activity you enjoy. Sure they can make it less enjoyable, but it's the internet, you'll end up finding someone you can respect on here I'm sure.

@capta1n_Henry It's as simple as practice. If you wanna get better you have to invest more time into it. I would recommend starting on something smaller at first. Your pieces are rather large. Try making a sprite in a 100x100 or even a 50x50 sized canvas, and see what you can do. Try to focus on setting an actual light source, and work on implementing shadows into your work.
Title: Re: All of my work. Which ones are good and which ones are bad?
Post by: wzl on April 21, 2016, 08:24:44 am
the reason the attitudes are like this is because there's a super egotistical group that formed out of the members here and they have driven away a lot of people

look no further than the slack chat to find this group, they frequently talk negatively about everyone there, it's no surprise that their negative attitudes are now leaking into the forum
Sorry to derail this, but i'm wondering if you made a new account to post this to dodge any discussion on this? It might be a valid point, so feel free to open a discussion about it if you think it is detremental to the community. Otherwise you're just passive agressively blaming a sub group of people for no reason, effectively doing the same that you blame others to do.
Title: Re: All of my work. Which ones are good and which ones are bad?
Post by: tsej on April 21, 2016, 05:23:24 pm
@Capta1n_Henry Hey man, great that you're trying to draw and get better! I would recommend trying to learn some fundamentals of art itself. That will go a long way in your improvement and you'll see the results instantly. Books like "Fun with a Pencil" by Loomis is an amazing start. You can practice pixelart while learning the fundamentals and solidifying them. Remember that at the end of the day, practice and hardwork will go a long way in your improvement. Just looking at tutorials and reading will not help you if you don't DO it. You can always post here for critiques and comments and iterate on your pieces based on feedback.
Remember to experiment and have fun!

@supremeartists you're probably never logging in here now anyways, but can you show me some screencaps of the chat and the negative atmosphere and people, with context of course. I'd love to see these evil people that plague our community! I also acknowledge that this is a bait, but I don't really care. Enough attention for you today :crazy:
Title: Re: All of my work. Which ones are good and which ones are bad?
Post by: supremeartists on April 21, 2016, 06:02:43 pm
i wasn't planning on adding anything else but wanted to point out that members of the community possibly including moderators/admins tried to uncover and share my ip in the chat as an attempt to no doubt try to attack me for stating my opinion, so if that's that kind of community you want to run and participate in then ok i'm the bad guy, luckily i knew they would try to do something like that so i took measures to protect my privacy
Title: Re: All of my work. Which ones are good and which ones are bad?
Post by: tsej on April 21, 2016, 06:27:29 pm
Hollow accusations. Please provide proof. I am not going to respond anymore, and I only did because I know nothing like that happened. No one in this community is malicious enough to do harm/trace your location, I can guarantee that.
Title: Re: All of my work. Which ones are good and which ones are bad?
Post by: DracoDragon42 on April 21, 2016, 07:09:54 pm
@Capta1n_Henry, some of your pieces are already pretty good, and with some practice you could make them a lot better. This one:
(http://i.imgur.com/oEWBe8M.png)
its pretty good already, you have a lot of volumes defined and you have nice character design. In my opinion, this robot guy would look a lot better if you made him smaller, so that you don't have to worry about small details and such.

The next piece I want to comment on is this:
(http://i.imgur.com/IKzjFCF.png)
This character is actually pretty good, I just cant tell what is going on with the face/hat area. So yeah, thats my critique.
Title: Re: All of my work. Which ones are good and which ones are bad?
Post by: Indigo on April 21, 2016, 07:29:48 pm
i wasn't planning on adding anything else but wanted to point out that members of the community possibly including moderators/admins tried to uncover and share my ip in the chat as an attempt to no doubt try to attack me for stating my opinion, so if that's that kind of community you want to run and participate in then ok i'm the bad guy, luckily i knew they would try to do something like that so i took measures to protect my privacy

You're referring to me, I'm sure.  for the record I never intended to share your IP or identity (nor did I), I just looked it up myself to see if it was unique or if it was associated with another account here so I might understand the issue you're describing better.  I am definitely concerned for the well being of our members and don't want this to be a toxic place for anyone.  I truly haven't noticed what you're describing in the Slack, but then again I'm not too active there.  Since this is a total derailment of this thread, I'd suggest we take this into PMs so you can let me know what you feel and work out ways to resolve any issues there might be.
Title: Re: All of my work. Which ones are good and which ones are bad?
Post by: Capta1n_Henry on April 21, 2016, 07:57:15 pm
Thanks for the critiques guys
Title: Re: All of my work. Which ones are good and which ones are bad?
Post by: 0xDB on April 22, 2016, 09:14:55 am
@Capta1n_Henry:
Look into fundamentals like Construction (http://pixelation.org/index.php?topic=19594.0#post_construction) and Projection (http://pixelation.org/index.php?topic=19594.0#post_projection). Those are just two of many skillsets to acquire that will help you get better at translating an idea in your head into a believable working representation of the idea in the form of a picture like PPD provided.

@supremeartists:
I wanted to let go of it but my mind seems to be unable to at this point and thanks to mild OCD, I feel obligated to say this for my own peace of mind. I would like you to be aware of the fact that by creating and hiding behind a sockpuppet account and by throwing vague, random and undirected accusations indiscriminately at basically everyone in slack instead of bringing it to the mods in private with concrete incidents and specific names of the supposed attacks/attackers for them to analyze and take action, you have succeeded at creating a feeling of general distrust and uneasyness of being monitored in the slack(of course I only speak for myself with expressing this feeling). By that, you are creating a huge amount of negativity yourself and by it you are displaying the very negative attitude that you claim to have identified in the mysterious unnamed and unspecified group of egotistic elitists(which I can not see there, so maybe it's not anyone else but your judgement, your interpretation of their behavior? or maybe I am part of that group and thus fail to see it?).

You accuse people of talking negative about "everyone", yet here you are the only one that does just that, you being the one who unspecifically throws everyone on slack into a bucket by not naming that "egotistical group" that you claim to exist there and that you feel to have identified and that supposedly has driven away "a lot of people"(another unspecific generalization).

I too feel that activity has declined in slack but I think that's mainly because of "noise" that comes natural within un-moderated chats and members finding that hanging out in slack too much has a bad influence on their productivity.

So, intentional or not, this kind of behaviour of yours could easily be interpreted as trolling( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll ), an attempt of yours to sow distrust and undermine the usually friendly atmosphere. Again, not saying you're doing this intentionally (yet) but be aware of the negative impact of sock-puppeting. It does not help your cause (unless your cause is indeed of sinister nature).

Be peace and remember rule #1 "Don't be an ass.".
Title: Re: All of my work. Which ones are good and which ones are bad?
Post by: Mnots on April 22, 2016, 11:26:03 am
@0xDB Well said! I've personally never encountered any sort of hostility from the people here, and have been a lurker for a long time.

Me: Just sitting here like "Wtf is 'slack' anyway?"
Title: Re: All of my work. Which ones are good and which ones are bad?
Post by: Limes on April 22, 2016, 05:33:36 pm
From my experience on here and on pixeljoint.
The only hostility I ever come across is when people give critique then and the receiver of the critique doesn't listen or just ignore their critique. And even then the hostility is usually accounted for if ever called out they always own up to it and apologize. I find the pixel art community's to be one of the more respectable bunches.

What I see here is people being impatient. Stuff can get confusing to newer members and I would expect to see encouragement from the community to help him get better. We were all like this at one point, so show some patience and respect. 
Title: Re: All of my work. Which ones are good and which ones are bad?
Post by: Decroded on April 23, 2016, 08:21:47 am
Or when someone (like me) is a little too blunt with their opinion and comes across as insulting without intending too.
But yeah no idea who these elitest pricks are...sounds like a shit-stir to me.