Pixelation

Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: Badassbill on February 28, 2010, 08:05:00 pm

Title: [WIP] The Kraken Awakens
Post by: Badassbill on February 28, 2010, 08:05:00 pm
I've been working on this on and off for a while now, and so far it has been fairly straight forward. That said, I've never really done anything like this, and would appreciate any tips or advice when progressing. I'm mostly hoping for critique on the composition of the piece rather than the pixeling. My main focus has been making sure the boat looks like it's being constricted, and not simply being held.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/badassbill123/giantsquid6.png)

Newest:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/badassbill123/giantsquid6-2.png)
Title: Re: [WIP] The Kraken Awakens
Post by: Chrispy on February 28, 2010, 08:33:14 pm
The colors suggest being deep underwater when really it's near the surface, so I would fix that. Other than that though the composition of the image is nice.
Title: Re: [WIP] The Kraken Awakens
Post by: Malor on February 28, 2010, 09:01:51 pm
If I were you, I'd consider adding a bit of blue into the palette.

I did a very quick, very rough color edit in photoshop, but I think it helps add a bit to the "mood" of being underwater.

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk211/ChoutetteMoutette/messyedit.png)
Title: Re: [WIP] The Kraken Awakens
Post by: turfsurfer on March 01, 2010, 12:28:22 am
I think you've done a fairly good job making the boat look crushed, I think a few stray shattered boards might help that, but the thing I'm really noticing is that the places where things break the surface of the water dont seem to be on the same plane. I think if you adjusted the ellipse where the largest tentacle is breaking the water it might help to fix that.
Title: Re: [WIP] The Kraken Awakens
Post by: blumunkee on March 01, 2010, 01:13:46 am
Malor's edit addresses the biggest issues I had, namely the pallete needing some blues and the shadows being too warm. It'll also need some bubbles and debris, but such details can wait until the final stages.
Title: Re: [WIP] The Kraken Awakens
Post by: Manupix on March 01, 2010, 01:55:17 am
The main problem is you don't account for refraction of light.
For a certain angle which is reached at a very short distance (a few meters) light (from beneath) would undergo total reflection on the surface, and no light could come from outside.
You would not see the outside parts of tentacles nor the sun / moon, but what's below would be 100% reflected.

I couldn't find a suitable ref except the turtle photo down in this page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_internal_reflection).
No time now, but I might look again tomorrow. In the meantime, try to find underwater shots with visible sun, I think you'll understand the point.
Title: Re: [WIP] The Kraken Awakens
Post by: Mathias on March 01, 2010, 12:21:24 pm
oh yes, I fully agree with Manu. There's no caustics occurring. I knew something was bugging me about this. Nice job so far. Love the closest, detailed-out tentacle, but shouldn't it be a little thicker to convey more accurate diminishing perspective? That next closest one has such different lighting, it seems far away, yet their thicknesses are so similar. That's the trouble with detailing one part of a rough image so much in the prelim phase, you run the danger of needing to back-track and change it. Of course, don't do anything that would jeopardize the feasibility of completing this image.
Title: Re: [WIP] The Kraken Awakens
Post by: Badassbill on March 01, 2010, 07:30:49 pm
I've made a rough update based on the advice (see first post).
Title: Re: [WIP] The Kraken Awakens
Post by: bengo on March 01, 2010, 07:55:53 pm
Hurm what if you added some water splashing effects into the mix? That was worded poorly but you get what I mean.
Title: Re: [WIP] The Kraken Awakens
Post by: Joe on March 01, 2010, 09:27:30 pm
The purple in the edit should have a bit more blue.  Actually more blue overall would enhance the underwater feel.

And it feels as if the water isn't even there.  The water should have substance; I would lower the highlights just a bit, have more mid tone and lower the darks even more.

The other thing I noticed is that the wood looks like it's being crushed, but the center tentacle doesn't look like it's crushing.  I think inserting a few straight lines in it's outline at the right points would help that.

But so far, this is looking pretty sick. 
Title: Re: [WIP] The Kraken Awakens
Post by: Badassbill on March 01, 2010, 09:59:11 pm
Another update. Forgot to say; thanks everyone.
Title: Re: [WIP] The Kraken Awakens
Post by: Sinistral Erim on March 01, 2010, 10:41:13 pm
My critique is that it doesn't appear to be either underwater or out of it. If it was underwater (methinks) it would be a bubbly mess. If it was out of water, there would be lots of foam with all the movement generated by the kraken plus the waves.
Title: Re: [WIP] The Kraken Awakens
Post by: Dr D on March 02, 2010, 02:44:38 am
I think you could go a lot further with the crushing effect, and at the same time give the piece more visual impact with some 'action'.

Here's a little demo of what I mean:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m93/Dustin99/Krakenforce.png)

The wood should probably be breaking outwards more, and the tentacle should probably be 'tighter', more constricting and forceful.
Title: Re: [WIP] The Kraken Awakens
Post by: EvilEye on March 02, 2010, 03:24:16 am
I like this. I don't have much critique at this point, except at first I didn't recognize the large mass on the left, I thought it was the ground. Maybe make the eye bulge out a bit more so it's more recognizable.
Title: Re: [WIP] The Kraken Awakens
Post by: alspal on March 02, 2010, 04:13:21 am
Yeah I think what Dr D said is what bothers me, it just looks like there is clean slice/cut through the boat.